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I am not the one covering potential crimes dude.That's purely your extremely biased opinion.Let's take a few steps backward.
A "whistleblower" law is intended to protect a good-faith complainant from termination or other disciplinary action for submitting a rightful complaint to top management.
A rightful, good-faith complaint must be truthful, factual, and correct.
The "whistleblower" complaint is, by its own terms, based on heresay. It is based on information provided ILLEGALLY to the whistleblower by those who were rightfully witness to the conversation. It must not be based on nefarious inferences about motivations, intentions, fears, or threats.
In this case, the actual principals in the conversation both say that there was no coercion, no threat of withholding of funds (The Ukrainians didn't learn of the possible withholding until a month later), and no quid pro quo.
This whistleblower is not a true whistleblower, and by all rights has waived any rights he might have had under the statute. His identity should immediately be made public, and he should be fired immediately.
Good lord. The whistle blower was detailed, provided named sources and according to both the IG and MacGuire, acted in good faith AND was credible. He is absolutely a whistleblower under the law and frankly it is because of people like you that we need such a law.
The GOP Is Now Saying the Whistleblower Is Totally 'Not a Whistleblower'
He's not a whistleblower,” Sen. Bill Cassidy (R-La.) said Thursday. “I mean, we have to stipulate that a whistleblower has firsthand knowledge and he did not have firsthand knowledge. It was hearsay.”
The message builds on one of the talking points the White House accidentally sent to House Democratic offices on Wednesday: “The real scandal here is that leaks about a second-hand account of the President’s confidential phone call with a foreign leader triggered a media frenzy of false accusations against the President and forced the President to release the transcript.”
In their complaint, the whistleblower, reportedly a CIA agent temporarily detailed to the White House, makes a point to acknowledge that they didn’t witness the events firsthand. Instead, the complaint relays information that was gathered from a handful of officials who did have firsthand knowledge.
The GOP is seizing on that, Democrats say, in an effort to cast doubt on the entire process and put distance between the whistleblower and the president’s alleged misconduct.
It doesn’t change what's in the rough transcript of the call, or the fact that the Intelligence Community Inspector General found credible the whistleblower’s concerns that the president’s team was hiding call transcripts to protect the president. But the messaging campaign could drag out and obfuscate the investigation, morphing what some Democrats see as an open-and-shut case into something longer and muddier.
.....Trump and his allies have also begun to raise questions about whether lawful whistleblower protections should apply to this person, should he or she choose to eventually come forward. Nowhere was that more evident that in a recording of a closed-door meeting in which Trump mused about potentially executing spies.
That certainly sends a chilling message to whistleblowers attempting to expose government misconduct.
I will never understand people that are just simply partisan hacks - and don't care.
The last President did more to destroy the protections provided under the whistleblower act and True Whistleblowers than this President could in a dozen Presidencies.
You have/had no concern for that.
People such as yourself are simply world class hypocrites and should be treated as such.
You ought to understand them, given you are one yourself.
People like you are eager to support breaking the law and covering it up it seems, when it's one of your own.
But ironically it is very God Damned true with you, lady.
We all have extremely biased opinions here. You included.