Who Are The Palestinains?

Here's the justice in your ass, use vaseline:

Hamas Charter

'The Islamic Resistance Movement is a distinguished Palestinian
movement, whose allegiance is to Allah, and whose way of life is
Islam. It strives to raise the banner of Allah over every inch of
Palestine.' (Article 6)

On the Destruction of Israel:

'Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will
obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it.' (Preamble)

The Exclusive Moslem Nature of the Area

'The land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf [Holy Possession]
consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgment Day. No one
can renounce it or any part, or abandon it or any part of it.'
(Article 11)

'Palestine is an Islamic land... Since this is the case, the
Liberation of Palestine is an individual duty for every Moslem
wherever he may be.' (Article 13)

The Call to Jihad:

'The day the enemies usurp part of Moslem land, Jihad becomes the
individual duty of every Moslem. In the face of the Jews' usurpation,
it is compulsory that the banner of Jihad be raised.' (Article 15)

Rejection of a Negotiated Peace Settlement:

'[Peace] initiatives, and so-called peaceful solutions and
international conferences are in contradiction to the principles of
the Islamic Resistance Movement... Those conferences are no more than
a means to appoint the infidels as arbitrators in the lands of
Islam... There is no solution for the Palestinian problem except by
Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are but a
waste of time, an exercise in futility.' (Article 13)
Here's something that is a little more current, than some 40 year old locker room chest thumping...

Hamas stormed the political arena in force in 2005. In January of that year, prior to scheduled municipal elections, a report from the U.S. State Department observed that Hamas was “Neck and Neck” with Fatah, the party under the leadership of President Abbas, with “a majority of both [Fatah] and Hamas supporters” backing “a continuation of the ceasefire, ongoing talks with Israel, and a two-state solution.” It noted that Palestinians “tend to see Hamas as more qualified to clean up corruption, resist occupation, and uphold societal values”, and that the “lack of hope in the peace process may also contribute to support for Hamas.” In other words, by rejecting the two-state solution, Israel was effectively helping, once again, to empower Hamas. A little over a week later, Hamas won an overwhelming victory in the municipal elections, gaining 75 out of 118 seats in 10 local councils, and with Fatah winning only 39 seats.

Hamas continued to gain council seats in further municipal elections in May. But rather than encouraging Hamas’s engagement in the political process, Israel continued to seek to isolate the group. Instead of encouraging Hamas to moderate its behavior, Israel continued to attempt to provoke the group into a violent response. Israel sent the message to Hamas that its steps towards moderation and political engagement would bear no fruit. When Hamas cleaned the streets, Israeli bulldozers and tanks destroyed them, and when Hamas erected streetlights, Israeli soldiers shot them out.

A further round of municipal elections were held in the West Bank in September, with Hamas again performing well, receiving nearly a third of the votes.

As the parliamentary election scheduled for January 25, 2006 drew near, Hamas published a manifesto that Western news agencies found remarkable for the absence of mention of any goal to eliminate Israel.

Hamas candidate Gazi Hamad said it reflected the group’s position of seeking a Palestinian state along the 1967 borders. He said Hamas would not recognize that Israel had a “right to exist”, but that it was seeking to shift strategies away from armed struggle to engagement in the political process. Palestinian cabinet minister Ghassan Khatib said, “Having Hamas inside the system is a positive development whereby they have to abide by the rules of the majority and respect the arguments of the administration they are part of, which includes a state built on 1967 borders. It will take time but Hamas will no longer have their own militia. It will be solely a political force
BTW, they'll renounce their charter after Israel ends the occupation.

- NOTHING you just posted changes the fact that The Hamas charter still calls for the destruction of Israel
- Nothing in that part of the charter says anything about occupation of the West Bank. It discusses Israel proper and how it should be obliterated.
- When did Hamas say that they would remove that part from their charter if Israel withdrew from the West Bank??
 
- NOTHING you just posted changes the fact that The Hamas charter still calls for the destruction of Israel
- Nothing in that part of the charter says anything about occupation of the West Bank. It discusses Israel proper and how it should be obliterated.
- When did Hamas say that they would remove that part from their charter if Israel withdrew from the West Bank??
What do you think they meant when they said once a two-state solution has been reached, they'll only exist has a political entity?

That they'll start a jihad against Jim Buss?
 
Same old song. All we want is justice for the Palestinian people, Christian and Muslim. All we get is Zionist propaganda. Yup, this section is the Zionist Stormfront. Ciao.

No you want some sort of revenge but you want it from the wrong group.
 
IslamoTerrorist asskissers come in all shapes and forms. But the common thread among most of them is ignorance and stupidity of which you have plenty of both.
I will say you're an expert on ignorance and stupidity.
I'd say you wouldn't know shit from shinola if it hit you in the face. Your ignorance and lack of knowledge is astounding.
 
Here's the justice in your ass, use vaseline:

Hamas Charter

'The Islamic Resistance Movement is a distinguished Palestinian
movement, whose allegiance is to Allah, and whose way of life is
Islam. It strives to raise the banner of Allah over every inch of
Palestine.' (Article 6)

On the Destruction of Israel:

'Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will
obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it.' (Preamble)

The Exclusive Moslem Nature of the Area

'The land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf [Holy Possession]
consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgment Day. No one
can renounce it or any part, or abandon it or any part of it.'
(Article 11)

'Palestine is an Islamic land... Since this is the case, the
Liberation of Palestine is an individual duty for every Moslem
wherever he may be.' (Article 13)

The Call to Jihad:

'The day the enemies usurp part of Moslem land, Jihad becomes the
individual duty of every Moslem. In the face of the Jews' usurpation,
it is compulsory that the banner of Jihad be raised.' (Article 15)

Rejection of a Negotiated Peace Settlement:

'[Peace] initiatives, and so-called peaceful solutions and
international conferences are in contradiction to the principles of
the Islamic Resistance Movement... Those conferences are no more than
a means to appoint the infidels as arbitrators in the lands of
Islam... There is no solution for the Palestinian problem except by
Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are but a
waste of time, an exercise in futility.' (Article 13)
Here's something that is a little more current, than some 40 year old locker room chest thumping...

Hamas stormed the political arena in force in 2005. In January of that year, prior to scheduled municipal elections, a report from the U.S. State Department observed that Hamas was “Neck and Neck” with Fatah, the party under the leadership of President Abbas, with “a majority of both [Fatah] and Hamas supporters” backing “a continuation of the ceasefire, ongoing talks with Israel, and a two-state solution.” It noted that Palestinians “tend to see Hamas as more qualified to clean up corruption, resist occupation, and uphold societal values”, and that the “lack of hope in the peace process may also contribute to support for Hamas.” In other words, by rejecting the two-state solution, Israel was effectively helping, once again, to empower Hamas. A little over a week later, Hamas won an overwhelming victory in the municipal elections, gaining 75 out of 118 seats in 10 local councils, and with Fatah winning only 39 seats.

Hamas continued to gain council seats in further municipal elections in May. But rather than encouraging Hamas’s engagement in the political process, Israel continued to seek to isolate the group. Instead of encouraging Hamas to moderate its behavior, Israel continued to attempt to provoke the group into a violent response. Israel sent the message to Hamas that its steps towards moderation and political engagement would bear no fruit. When Hamas cleaned the streets, Israeli bulldozers and tanks destroyed them, and when Hamas erected streetlights, Israeli soldiers shot them out.

A further round of municipal elections were held in the West Bank in September, with Hamas again performing well, receiving nearly a third of the votes.

As the parliamentary election scheduled for January 25, 2006 drew near, Hamas published a manifesto that Western news agencies found remarkable for the absence of mention of any goal to eliminate Israel.

Hamas candidate Gazi Hamad said it reflected the group’s position of seeking a Palestinian state along the 1967 borders. He said Hamas would not recognize that Israel had a “right to exist”, but that it was seeking to shift strategies away from armed struggle to engagement in the political process. Palestinian cabinet minister Ghassan Khatib said, “Having Hamas inside the system is a positive development whereby they have to abide by the rules of the majority and respect the arguments of the administration they are part of, which includes a state built on 1967 borders. It will take time but Hamas will no longer have their own militia. It will be solely a political force.”
BTW, they'll renounce their charter after Israel ends the occupation.
There's that ignorance shining through again. Hamas' calls for the destruction of the Israel to be replaced by and Islamic state is not even in dispute, Vaseline mouth. LOL
 
It's a cultural thing us Westerners in the civilized world just can't understand.



You can sugarcoat it any way you want, but the Arab armies had no business invading the region and starting a war.
The hostilities were between Israel and the Palestinians, not between the Arab states.
And if they came in to ensure law and order, why did some of the Leaders literally threaten to destroy Israel if they became a state, prior to the war???

Using the logic in your last statement, I can say: Israeli forces wouldn't of had to expel those Palestinians during their military advances , if those 5 Arab states hadn't attacked.
This is what got their attention and why they eventually attacked...
...the settlers must under no circumstances arouse the wrath of the natives ... 'Yet what do our brethren do in Palestine? Just the very opposite! Serfs they were in the lands of the Diaspora and suddenly they find themselves in unrestricted freedom and this change has awakened in them an inclination to despotism. They treat the Arabs with hostility and cruelty, deprive them of their rights, offend them without cause and even boast of these deeds; and nobody among us opposes this despicable and dangerous inclination ...
- Ahad Ha'am (Zionist humanist)
It's as if an East LA street gang moved to a suburb in the OC and immediately had run-ins with the non-Chicano residents. Then the OC Sherriff's announce they're leaving the area and will not be back to police it. What do you think that LA gang is going to do?

Judging by the behavior of Moslems throughout the Middle East and Europe, they don't need a very solid excuse to commit murder.
 
- NOTHING you just posted changes the fact that The Hamas charter still calls for the destruction of Israel
- Nothing in that part of the charter says anything about occupation of the West Bank. It discusses Israel proper and how it should be obliterated.
- When did Hamas say that they would remove that part from their charter if Israel withdrew from the West Bank??
What do you think they meant when they said once a two-state solution has been reached, they'll only exist has a political entity?

That they'll start a jihad against Jim Buss?

Iran's former president was in a "political entity" and called for the destruction of Israel. He never took it back as far as I remember.
 
It's a cultural thing us Westerners in the civilized world just can't understand.
How would you like it if someone who just moved into the neighborhood came up to you and said your house was now his? started beating up your relatives; built a fence across your driveway to the point where your car no longer had access to the street; and went around trashing you to your neighbor's, telling them all it was your fault things had deteriorated?

What would you do?
 
There's that ignorance shining through again. Hamas' calls for the destruction of the Israel to be replaced by and Islamic state is not even in dispute, Vaseline mouth. LOL
That's what you claim.

And your only proof is some archaic document they made 50 years ago.
 
The original people of Palestine. Part of the Canaan society that Hebrews could not defeat when they invaded Palestine.

no.... learn history...

bedouins who started a war against the jewish population of israel.

there has never been a palestine... it was a designation given to judea by it's occupiers.

The 'designation' given to it by its current occupiers is Israel.
 
There's that ignorance shining through again. Hamas' calls for the destruction of the Israel to be replaced by and Islamic state is not even in dispute, Vaseline mouth. LOL
That's what you claim.

And your only proof is some archaic document they made 50 years ago.
It's not what I claim, dipweed, it's in writing and it's their "constitution". There's that ignorance again.

Ignorance, illiteracy, and bigotry are prerequisites for being a Pali supporter. It seems you are over qualified. LOL
 
The original people of Palestine. Part of the Canaan society that Hebrews could not defeat when they invaded Palestine.

no.... learn history...

bedouins who started a war against the jewish population of israel.

there has never been a palestine... it was a designation given to judea by it's occupiers.

The 'designation' given to it by its current occupiers is Israel.
Here comes another one. The area was called Judea and Samaria for 3000 years until Arab animals changed it to West Bank after the 48 war.

Look it up. :cool:
 
Do you think the Israeli parties in the Israeli cabinet that call for the expulsion or genocide of the non-Jews should also change their positions? Shas is not the most radical of these parties but has positions towards the non-Jews that Hamas has towards the Jews.

For example, Ovadia Yosef leader of Shas has been quoted as saying "Abu Mazen and all these evil people should perish from this world. God should strike them with a plague, them and these Palestinians."

also this same party leader called Arabs "vipers," and called for Israel to "annihilate" them. "It is forbidden to be merciful to them. You must send missiles to them and annihilate them. They are evil and damnable."

Hamas are pretty mild compared to the equivalent Israeli radicals.

Shas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
Do you think the Israeli parties in the Israeli cabinet that call for the expulsion or genocide of the non-Jews should also change their positions? Shas is not the most radical of these parties but has positions towards the non-Jews that Hamas has towards the Jews.

For example, Ovadia Yosef leader of Shas has been quoted as saying "Abu Mazen and all these evil people should perish from this world. God should strike them with a plague, them and these Palestinians."

also this same party leader called Arabs "vipers," and called for Israel to "annihilate" them. "It is forbidden to be merciful to them. You must send missiles to them and annihilate them. They are evil and damnable."

Hamas are pretty mild compared to the equivalent Israeli radicals.

Shas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

One person in a minority movement as compared to millions of Islamics throughout the world and their clerics calling for the destruction of Jews. Not such a comparison really is it?
 
Iran's former president was in a "political entity" and called for the destruction of Israel. He never took it back as far as I remember.
Because he was a nutcase and a fruit loop that they used, appropriately, like a piñata at his funeral.

Just as long as you realize that your strawman argument about Hamas renouncing destroying Israel once they are a political entity is total crap, my job is done.

:thanks:
 
It's a cultural thing us Westerners in the civilized world just can't understand.
How would you like it if someone who just moved into the neighborhood came up to you and said your house was now his? started beating up your relatives; built a fence across your driveway to the point where your car no longer had access to the street; and went around trashing you to your neighbor's, telling them all it was your fault things had deteriorated?

What would you do?

I dunno, let's ask the American Indians.
 
How did you get to be so silly? It is the Palestinians who are squatters on Israel's land for generations without any deeds to the land they stole.




It's a cultural thing us Westerners in the civilized world just can't understand.
How would you like it if someone who just moved into the neighborhood came up to you and said your house was now his? started beating up your relatives; built a fence across your driveway to the point where your car no longer had access to the street; and went around trashing you to your neighbor's, telling them all it was your fault things had deteriorated?

What would you do?
 

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