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Stooge Kemp was testifying on behalf of United Nations Watch. UN Watch is an Israeli propaganda organization.
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Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
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Stooge Kemp was testifying on behalf of United Nations Watch. UN Watch is an Israeli propaganda organization.My (everyone that is not a Zionist propagandist) contention is that Gaza is densely populated and as stated by neutral news media, the Palestinian militias do not use human shields. Anyone that claims that the BBC is biased is certainly a Hasbara operative. If anything BBC is biased in support of Israel.
The Palestinians are defending themselves. There had been no rockets fired by the Palestinians since 2012 before the Palestinians retaliated against Israeli air raids.
"6) This current Gaza conflict began with Hamas rocket fire on 30 June 2014
Times of Israel: "Hamas operatives were behind a large volley of rockets which slammed into Israel Monday morning, the first time in years the Islamist group has directly challenged the Jewish state, according to Israeli defense officials.. The security sources, who spoke on condition of anonymity, assessed that Hamas had probably launched the barrage in revenge for an Israeli airstrike several hours earlier which killed one person and injured three more.. Hamas hasn't fired rockets into Israel since Operation Pillar of Defense ended in November 2012." The Nation: "During ten days of Operation Brother's Keeper in the West Bank [before the start of the Gaza conflict], Israel arrested approximately 800 Palestinians without charge or trial, killed nine civilians and raided nearly 1,300 residential, commercial and public buildings. Its military operation targeted Hamas members released during the Gilad Shalit prisoner exchange in 2011."
Debunking Israel s 11 Main Myths About Gaza Hamas and War Crimes Mehdi Hasan
Are you saying Col Kemp is lying? That we should accept to opinion of Mehdi Hassan? You are kidding, right? I will grant that it is extremely difficult to catch Hamas at work as rational people don't want to become their next victim but before they quickly and quietly slipped out of Gaza, an Indian TV crew managed to film a Hamas rocket launched from beneath their hotel window. Furthermore, UNRWA was forced to admit (very reluctantly) that UN "schools" were used by Hamas as armories. You and Hassan can deny or otherwise avoid the truth but it is still the truth.
Absolutely Kemp is a liar and paid by Israel...
Toasty was right! Your only defense against the truth is to scream "Hasbarat!"
You now have the opportunity to post your proof of what you claim to be Col Kemp's corruption. I will wait here but I certainly won't be holding my breath.
Can you back this up.
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Ian Williams, former president of the United Nations Correspondents Association[93] and author of The UN For Beginners,[94] wrote in an opinion piece in The Guardian in 2007 that the main objective of UN Watch "is to attack the United Nations in general, and its human rights council in particular, for alleged bias against Israel". Williams supported UN Watch's condemnation of the UN Human Rights Council as a hypocritical organization, but also accused UN Watch itself of hypocrisy for failing to denounce what he called "manifest Israeli transgressions against the human rights of Palestinians."[95]Stooge Kemp was testifying on behalf of United Nations Watch. UN Watch is an Israeli propaganda organization.My (everyone that is not a Zionist propagandist) contention is that Gaza is densely populated and as stated by neutral news media, the Palestinian militias do not use human shields. Anyone that claims that the BBC is biased is certainly a Hasbara operative. If anything BBC is biased in support of Israel.
The Palestinians are defending themselves. There had been no rockets fired by the Palestinians since 2012 before the Palestinians retaliated against Israeli air raids.
"6) This current Gaza conflict began with Hamas rocket fire on 30 June 2014
Times of Israel: "Hamas operatives were behind a large volley of rockets which slammed into Israel Monday morning, the first time in years the Islamist group has directly challenged the Jewish state, according to Israeli defense officials.. The security sources, who spoke on condition of anonymity, assessed that Hamas had probably launched the barrage in revenge for an Israeli airstrike several hours earlier which killed one person and injured three more.. Hamas hasn't fired rockets into Israel since Operation Pillar of Defense ended in November 2012." The Nation: "During ten days of Operation Brother's Keeper in the West Bank [before the start of the Gaza conflict], Israel arrested approximately 800 Palestinians without charge or trial, killed nine civilians and raided nearly 1,300 residential, commercial and public buildings. Its military operation targeted Hamas members released during the Gilad Shalit prisoner exchange in 2011."
Debunking Israel s 11 Main Myths About Gaza Hamas and War Crimes Mehdi Hasan
Are you saying Col Kemp is lying? That we should accept to opinion of Mehdi Hassan? You are kidding, right? I will grant that it is extremely difficult to catch Hamas at work as rational people don't want to become their next victim but before they quickly and quietly slipped out of Gaza, an Indian TV crew managed to film a Hamas rocket launched from beneath their hotel window. Furthermore, UNRWA was forced to admit (very reluctantly) that UN "schools" were used by Hamas as armories. You and Hassan can deny or otherwise avoid the truth but it is still the truth.
Absolutely Kemp is a liar and paid by Israel...
Toasty was right! Your only defense against the truth is to scream "Hasbarat!"
You now have the opportunity to post your proof of what you claim to be Col Kemp's corruption. I will wait here but I certainly won't be holding my breath.
Can you back this up.
Agence France-Presse has described UN Watch both as "a lobby group with strong ties to Israel"[17] and as a group which "champion
UN Watch is active at the UN in combating anti-Israel and anti-Semitism, and what it dubs the selective and politicized treatment of Israel by many UN bodies.
Telegraphic Agency has described U.N. Watch as a pro-Israel organization.
UN Watch - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
Stooge Kemp was testifying on behalf of United Nations Watch. UN Watch is an Israeli propaganda organization.My (everyone that is not a Zionist propagandist) contention is that Gaza is densely populated and as stated by neutral news media, the Palestinian militias do not use human shields. Anyone that claims that the BBC is biased is certainly a Hasbara operative. If anything BBC is biased in support of Israel.
The Palestinians are defending themselves. There had been no rockets fired by the Palestinians since 2012 before the Palestinians retaliated against Israeli air raids.
"6) This current Gaza conflict began with Hamas rocket fire on 30 June 2014
Times of Israel: "Hamas operatives were behind a large volley of rockets which slammed into Israel Monday morning, the first time in years the Islamist group has directly challenged the Jewish state, according to Israeli defense officials.. The security sources, who spoke on condition of anonymity, assessed that Hamas had probably launched the barrage in revenge for an Israeli airstrike several hours earlier which killed one person and injured three more.. Hamas hasn't fired rockets into Israel since Operation Pillar of Defense ended in November 2012." The Nation: "During ten days of Operation Brother's Keeper in the West Bank [before the start of the Gaza conflict], Israel arrested approximately 800 Palestinians without charge or trial, killed nine civilians and raided nearly 1,300 residential, commercial and public buildings. Its military operation targeted Hamas members released during the Gilad Shalit prisoner exchange in 2011."
Debunking Israel s 11 Main Myths About Gaza Hamas and War Crimes Mehdi Hasan
Are you saying Col Kemp is lying? That we should accept to opinion of Mehdi Hassan? You are kidding, right? I will grant that it is extremely difficult to catch Hamas at work as rational people don't want to become their next victim but before they quickly and quietly slipped out of Gaza, an Indian TV crew managed to film a Hamas rocket launched from beneath their hotel window. Furthermore, UNRWA was forced to admit (very reluctantly) that UN "schools" were used by Hamas as armories. You and Hassan can deny or otherwise avoid the truth but it is still the truth.
Absolutely Kemp is a liar and paid by Israel...
Toasty was right! Your only defense against the truth is to scream "Hasbarat!"
You now have the opportunity to post your proof of what you claim to be Col Kemp's corruption. I will wait here but I certainly won't be holding my breath.
You, like Monte, are a liar Tinny, but then what is to be expected from the anti-Israel/anti-Jooo cabal here:
UN Watch is a non-governmental organization based in Geneva whose mandate is to monitor the performance of the United Nations by the yardstick of its own Charter. UN Watch was established in 1993 by the legendary civil rights activist Morris B. Abram, the former U.S. Permanent Representative to the United Nations in Geneva. UN Watch participates actively at the UN as an accredited NGO in Special Consultative Status to the UN Economic and Social Council (ECOSOC) and as an Associate NGO to the UN Department of Public Information (DPI). It reports regularly to both.
http://www.unwatch.org/aboutus
Palestinians = A loosley defined group of sandniggers that live near the shore of the Mediterranean Sea.
Ian Williams, former president of the United Nations Correspondents Association[93] and author of The UN For Beginners,[94] wrote in an opinion piece in The Guardian in 2007 that the main objective of UN Watch "is to attack the United Nations in general, and its human rights council in particular, for alleged bias against Israel". Williams supported UN Watch's condemnation of the UN Human Rights Council as a hypocritical organization, but also accused UN Watch itself of hypocrisy for failing to denounce what he called "manifest Israeli transgressions against the human rights of Palestinians."[95]Stooge Kemp was testifying on behalf of United Nations Watch. UN Watch is an Israeli propaganda organization.Are you saying Col Kemp is lying? That we should accept to opinion of Mehdi Hassan? You are kidding, right? I will grant that it is extremely difficult to catch Hamas at work as rational people don't want to become their next victim but before they quickly and quietly slipped out of Gaza, an Indian TV crew managed to film a Hamas rocket launched from beneath their hotel window. Furthermore, UNRWA was forced to admit (very reluctantly) that UN "schools" were used by Hamas as armories. You and Hassan can deny or otherwise avoid the truth but it is still the truth.
Absolutely Kemp is a liar and paid by Israel...
Toasty was right! Your only defense against the truth is to scream "Hasbarat!"
You now have the opportunity to post your proof of what you claim to be Col Kemp's corruption. I will wait here but I certainly won't be holding my breath.
Can you back this up.
Agence France-Presse has described UN Watch both as "a lobby group with strong ties to Israel"[17] and as a group which "championhuman rights worldwide".[18]
UN Watch is active at the UN in combating anti-Israel and anti-Semitism, and what it dubs the selective and politicized treatment of Israel by many UN bodies.
Telegraphic Agency has described U.N. Watch as a pro-Israel organization.
UN Watch - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
Woo ... you sure can pick 'em, Tinny. Your boy Ian Williams is a hack and a fraud. Meanwhile Col. Kemp is a respected retired British Army Colonel.
Williams wife, Anora Mahmudova, gained notoriety when it was revealed that she was working illegally in the United States. What made this tawdry affair interesting was that her law-breaking employer was the United Nations Correspondents Association which emptied its coffers by hiring Mahmudova in 2004 as "office manager," paying her more than it received in dues.
Williams is a fourth-rate hack who worked for the UN as a "media trainer" while at the same time functioning as an ostensibly independent "UN correspondent" for The Nation. The slimy nature of this cabal is typical of you and most anti-Israel groups.
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BBC coverage of Ramadan terror ignores attacks in one country – in English
Of course in order to be able to name the ideology, people first need to be aware of what is happening and whilst Israelis are among those who have seen a sharp uptick in the already high number of terror attacks since Ramadan commenced, most of the BBC’s worldwide audience remains unaware of that fact.
On June 19th a fatal terror attack took place near Dolev with Hamas later claiming responsibility. BBC English language services did not report the incident but it was covered in Arabic.
On June 21st a Border Police officer was seriously injured in a stabbing attack in Jerusalem and another man was injured when a bus was firebombed later the same day. The BBC did not report either of those incidents.
On June 23rd a missile fired from the Gaza Strip exploded near Kibbutz Yad Mordechai. That attack was not reported by the BBC’s English language services but the Israeli response to it did get coverage in Arabic.
On June 26th a Palestinian gunman opened fire on soldiers at Beka’ot checkpoint in the Jordan Rift Valley. There were no BBC English language reports on that incident but it was mentioned briefly in a later report in Arabic.
On June 27th an ambulance traveling near Beit El was attacked with live gunfire. There was no BBC coverage of that attack.
On the morning of June 29th a female soldier was injured in a stabbing attack at a crossing near Bethlehem. Later in the evening of the same day, four Israelis were wounded in a shooting attack near Shvut Rachel.
“The four had been driving back from a basketball game near Route 60, the main north-south artery running through the West Bank, when they were attacked. Security forces were initially unsure whether the four were shot at from a passing vehicle or a roadside ambush.”
Neither of those incidents was reported by the BBC’s English language services even after the most seriously wounded victim of the second attack died but both the earlier and later attacks were reported in Arabic. According to Palestinian media outlets, Hamas claimed responsibility for the Shvut Rachel shooting.
As we can determine from the fact that at least some of the above incidents were reported on the BBC Arabic website, the corporation is obviously well aware of the fact that they took place. One question therefore arising is why – in a similar pattern to that already established in relation to coverage of missile fire from the Gaza Strip – the attacks are not being reported in English. An additional and related point worthy of note is that BBC audiences have not been informed about Hamas’ efforts to build up its terrorist infrastructure in Judea & Samaria.
BBC coverage of Ramadan terror ignores attacks in one country in English BBC Watch
BBC coverage of Ramadan terror ignores attacks in one country – in English
Of course in order to be able to name the ideology, people first need to be aware of what is happening and whilst Israelis are among those who have seen a sharp uptick in the already high number of terror attacks since Ramadan commenced, most of the BBC’s worldwide audience remains unaware of that fact.
On June 19th a fatal terror attack took place near Dolev with Hamas later claiming responsibility. BBC English language services did not report the incident but it was covered in Arabic.
On June 21st a Border Police officer was seriously injured in a stabbing attack in Jerusalem and another man was injured when a bus was firebombed later the same day. The BBC did not report either of those incidents.
On June 23rd a missile fired from the Gaza Strip exploded near Kibbutz Yad Mordechai. That attack was not reported by the BBC’s English language services but the Israeli response to it did get coverage in Arabic.
On June 26th a Palestinian gunman opened fire on soldiers at Beka’ot checkpoint in the Jordan Rift Valley. There were no BBC English language reports on that incident but it was mentioned briefly in a later report in Arabic.
On June 27th an ambulance traveling near Beit El was attacked with live gunfire. There was no BBC coverage of that attack.
On the morning of June 29th a female soldier was injured in a stabbing attack at a crossing near Bethlehem. Later in the evening of the same day, four Israelis were wounded in a shooting attack near Shvut Rachel.
“The four had been driving back from a basketball game near Route 60, the main north-south artery running through the West Bank, when they were attacked. Security forces were initially unsure whether the four were shot at from a passing vehicle or a roadside ambush.”
Neither of those incidents was reported by the BBC’s English language services even after the most seriously wounded victim of the second attack died but both the earlier and later attacks were reported in Arabic. According to Palestinian media outlets, Hamas claimed responsibility for the Shvut Rachel shooting.
As we can determine from the fact that at least some of the above incidents were reported on the BBC Arabic website, the corporation is obviously well aware of the fact that they took place. One question therefore arising is why – in a similar pattern to that already established in relation to coverage of missile fire from the Gaza Strip – the attacks are not being reported in English. An additional and related point worthy of note is that BBC audiences have not been informed about Hamas’ efforts to build up its terrorist infrastructure in Judea & Samaria.
BBC coverage of Ramadan terror ignores attacks in one country in English BBC Watch
Negotiate peace with whom? They are not at war with any of their neighbors.Negotiate what? Israel never negotiated in good faith.Why do Israel supporters favor death and destruction? How can anyone make peace with animals like that?And can soon be sorted by imposing martial law and having a shoot to kill policy when anyone breaks the rules
It is the Palestinians that favour death and destruction and it shows when they refuse point blank to negotiate a settlement. Care to show where in the Israeli constitution/charter it states the destruction of Palestine and the death of all Palestinians. Like it does in the many Palestinian charters.................
Why waste the time?
Two treaties that have stood the test of time with Jordan and Egypt. Now what have the Palestinians ever negotiated ?
Tell that to Jordan, Egypt and Israel who they are constantly at war with. And your LIEs no longer work as Palestine still has no borders according to the UN
Negotiate peace with whom? They are not at war with any of their neighbors.Negotiate what? Israel never negotiated in good faith.Why do Israel supporters favor death and destruction? How can anyone make peace with animals like that?And can soon be sorted by imposing martial law and having a shoot to kill policy when anyone breaks the rules
It is the Palestinians that favour death and destruction and it shows when they refuse point blank to negotiate a settlement. Care to show where in the Israeli constitution/charter it states the destruction of Palestine and the death of all Palestinians. Like it does in the many Palestinian charters.................
Why waste the time?
Two treaties that have stood the test of time with Jordan and Egypt. Now what have the Palestinians ever negotiated ?
Tell that to Jordan, Egypt and Israel who they are constantly at war with. And your LIEs no longer work as Palestine still has no borders according to the UN
Negotiate peace with whom? They are not at war with any of their neighbors.Negotiate what? Israel never negotiated in good faith.Why do Israel supporters favor death and destruction? How can anyone make peace with animals like that?And can soon be sorted by imposing martial law and having a shoot to kill policy when anyone breaks the rules
It is the Palestinians that favour death and destruction and it shows when they refuse point blank to negotiate a settlement. Care to show where in the Israeli constitution/charter it states the destruction of Palestine and the death of all Palestinians. Like it does in the many Palestinian charters.................
Why waste the time?
Two treaties that have stood the test of time with Jordan and Egypt. Now what have the Palestinians ever negotiated ?
Tell that to Jordan, Egypt and Israel who they are constantly at war with. And your LIEs no longer work as Palestine still has no borders according to the UN. By the way I did not mention peace I mentioned negotiations honoured by Palestine, kithman and taqiya
Negotiate peace with whom? They are not at war with any of their neighbors.Negotiate what? Israel never negotiated in good faith.Why do Israel supporters favor death and destruction? How can anyone make peace with animals like that?And can soon be sorted by imposing martial law and having a shoot to kill policy when anyone breaks the rules
It is the Palestinians that favour death and destruction and it shows when they refuse point blank to negotiate a settlement. Care to show where in the Israeli constitution/charter it states the destruction of Palestine and the death of all Palestinians. Like it does in the many Palestinian charters.................
Why waste the time?
Two treaties that have stood the test of time with Jordan and Egypt. Now what have the Palestinians ever negotiated ?
Tell that to Jordan, Egypt and Israel who they are constantly at war with. And your LIEs no longer work as Palestine still has no borders according to the UN. By the way I did not mention peace I mentioned negotiations honoured by Palestine, kithman and taqiya
Negotiate peace with whom? They are not at war with any of their neighbors.Negotiate what? Israel never negotiated in good faith.Why do Israel supporters favor death and destruction? How can anyone make peace with animals like that?And can soon be sorted by imposing martial law and having a shoot to kill policy when anyone breaks the rules
It is the Palestinians that favour death and destruction and it shows when they refuse point blank to negotiate a settlement. Care to show where in the Israeli constitution/charter it states the destruction of Palestine and the death of all Palestinians. Like it does in the many Palestinian charters.................
Why waste the time?
Two treaties that have stood the test of time with Jordan and Egypt. Now what have the Palestinians ever negotiated ?
Tell that to Jordan, Egypt and Israel who they are constantly at war with. And your LIEs no longer work as Palestine still has no borders according to the UN. By the way I did not mention peace I mentioned negotiations honoured by Palestine, kithman and taqiya
Ian Williams, former president of the United Nations Correspondents Association[93] and author of The UN For Beginners,[94] wrote in an opinion piece in The Guardian in 2007 that the main objective of UN Watch "is to attack the United Nations in general, and its human rights council in particular, for alleged bias against Israel". Williams supported UN Watch's condemnation of the UN Human Rights Council as a hypocritical organization, but also accused UN Watch itself of hypocrisy for failing to denounce what he called "manifest Israeli transgressions against the human rights of Palestinians."[95]Stooge Kemp was testifying on behalf of United Nations Watch. UN Watch is an Israeli propaganda organization.Are you saying Col Kemp is lying? That we should accept to opinion of Mehdi Hassan? You are kidding, right? I will grant that it is extremely difficult to catch Hamas at work as rational people don't want to become their next victim but before they quickly and quietly slipped out of Gaza, an Indian TV crew managed to film a Hamas rocket launched from beneath their hotel window. Furthermore, UNRWA was forced to admit (very reluctantly) that UN "schools" were used by Hamas as armories. You and Hassan can deny or otherwise avoid the truth but it is still the truth.
Absolutely Kemp is a liar and paid by Israel...
Toasty was right! Your only defense against the truth is to scream "Hasbarat!"
You now have the opportunity to post your proof of what you claim to be Col Kemp's corruption. I will wait here but I certainly won't be holding my breath.
Can you back this up.
Agence France-Presse has described UN Watch both as "a lobby group with strong ties to Israel"[17] and as a group which "championhuman rights worldwide".[18]
UN Watch is active at the UN in combating anti-Israel and anti-Semitism, and what it dubs the selective and politicized treatment of Israel by many UN bodies.
Telegraphic Agency has described U.N. Watch as a pro-Israel organization.
UN Watch - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
So? The UN IS bias towards Israel. All UN watch does it follow the actions of the U.N
My (everyone that is not a Zionist propagandist) contention is that Gaza is densely populated and as stated by neutral news media, the Palestinian militias do not use human shields. Anyone that claims that the BBC is biased is certainly a Hasbara operative. If anything BBC is biased in support of Israel.
The Palestinians are defending themselves. There had been no rockets fired by the Palestinians since 2012 before the Palestinians retaliated against Israeli air raids.
"6) This current Gaza conflict began with Hamas rocket fire on 30 June 2014
Times of Israel: "Hamas operatives were behind a large volley of rockets which slammed into Israel Monday morning, the first time in years the Islamist group has directly challenged the Jewish state, according to Israeli defense officials.. The security sources, who spoke on condition of anonymity, assessed that Hamas had probably launched the barrage in revenge for an Israeli airstrike several hours earlier which killed one person and injured three more.. Hamas hasn't fired rockets into Israel since Operation Pillar of Defense ended in November 2012." The Nation: "During ten days of Operation Brother's Keeper in the West Bank [before the start of the Gaza conflict], Israel arrested approximately 800 Palestinians without charge or trial, killed nine civilians and raided nearly 1,300 residential, commercial and public buildings. Its military operation targeted Hamas members released during the Gilad Shalit prisoner exchange in 2011."
Debunking Israel s 11 Main Myths About Gaza Hamas and War Crimes Mehdi Hasan
The reality is that gaza is 50% arable open land that anyone with a computer can see for themselves. So the excuse that it is densely populated is a fallacy as only the 50% that is inhabited is densely populated. Go to Google Maps and change to satellite view and you will see just how much is arable open land.
Another monte lie busted
My (everyone that is not a Zionist propagandist) contention is that Gaza is densely populated and as stated by neutral news media, the Palestinian militias do not use human shields. Anyone that claims that the BBC is biased is certainly a Hasbara operative. If anything BBC is biased in support of Israel.
The Palestinians are defending themselves. There had been no rockets fired by the Palestinians since 2012 before the Palestinians retaliated against Israeli air raids.
"6) This current Gaza conflict began with Hamas rocket fire on 30 June 2014
Times of Israel: "Hamas operatives were behind a large volley of rockets which slammed into Israel Monday morning, the first time in years the Islamist group has directly challenged the Jewish state, according to Israeli defense officials.. The security sources, who spoke on condition of anonymity, assessed that Hamas had probably launched the barrage in revenge for an Israeli airstrike several hours earlier which killed one person and injured three more.. Hamas hasn't fired rockets into Israel since Operation Pillar of Defense ended in November 2012." The Nation: "During ten days of Operation Brother's Keeper in the West Bank [before the start of the Gaza conflict], Israel arrested approximately 800 Palestinians without charge or trial, killed nine civilians and raided nearly 1,300 residential, commercial and public buildings. Its military operation targeted Hamas members released during the Gilad Shalit prisoner exchange in 2011."
Debunking Israel s 11 Main Myths About Gaza Hamas and War Crimes Mehdi Hasan
Are you saying Col Kemp is lying? That we should accept to opinion of Mehdi Hassan? You are kidding, right? I will grant that it is extremely difficult to catch Hamas at work as rational people don't want to become their next victim but before they quickly and quietly slipped out of Gaza, an Indian TV crew managed to film a Hamas rocket launched from beneath their hotel window. Furthermore, UNRWA was forced to admit (very reluctantly) that UN "schools" were used by Hamas as armories. You and Hassan can deny or otherwise avoid the truth but it is still the truth.
He is saying that Google maps are lying and that the images shown are those planted by hasbara propagandists to fool the world.
See here Google Maps
My (everyone that is not a Zionist propagandist) contention is that Gaza is densely populated and as stated by neutral news media, the Palestinian militias do not use human shields. Anyone that claims that the BBC is biased is certainly a Hasbara operative. If anything BBC is biased in support of Israel.
The Palestinians are defending themselves. There had been no rockets fired by the Palestinians since 2012 before the Palestinians retaliated against Israeli air raids.
"6) This current Gaza conflict began with Hamas rocket fire on 30 June 2014
Times of Israel: "Hamas operatives were behind a large volley of rockets which slammed into Israel Monday morning, the first time in years the Islamist group has directly challenged the Jewish state, according to Israeli defense officials.. The security sources, who spoke on condition of anonymity, assessed that Hamas had probably launched the barrage in revenge for an Israeli airstrike several hours earlier which killed one person and injured three more.. Hamas hasn't fired rockets into Israel since Operation Pillar of Defense ended in November 2012." The Nation: "During ten days of Operation Brother's Keeper in the West Bank [before the start of the Gaza conflict], Israel arrested approximately 800 Palestinians without charge or trial, killed nine civilians and raided nearly 1,300 residential, commercial and public buildings. Its military operation targeted Hamas members released during the Gilad Shalit prisoner exchange in 2011."
Debunking Israel s 11 Main Myths About Gaza Hamas and War Crimes Mehdi Hasan
Are you saying Col Kemp is lying? That we should accept to opinion of Mehdi Hassan? You are kidding, right? I will grant that it is extremely difficult to catch Hamas at work as rational people don't want to become their next victim but before they quickly and quietly slipped out of Gaza, an Indian TV crew managed to film a Hamas rocket launched from beneath their hotel window. Furthermore, UNRWA was forced to admit (very reluctantly) that UN "schools" were used by Hamas as armories. You and Hassan can deny or otherwise avoid the truth but it is still the truth.
Absolutely Kemp is a liar and paid by Israel. The UN did not admit reluctantly, they pro-actively found arms in closed schools and had them removed, The schools that the Israelis bombed were filled with women and children and had no arms in them. The UN had given the IDF the coordinates of the shelter schools and the IDF used the coordinates to bomb them.
Are you saying that Google are lying and that 50% of gaza is not open ground
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It is your lie that is busted. Gaza (the usable space) is much smaller than Google states.My (everyone that is not a Zionist propagandist) contention is that Gaza is densely populated and as stated by neutral news media, the Palestinian militias do not use human shields. Anyone that claims that the BBC is biased is certainly a Hasbara operative. If anything BBC is biased in support of Israel.
The Palestinians are defending themselves. There had been no rockets fired by the Palestinians since 2012 before the Palestinians retaliated against Israeli air raids.
"6) This current Gaza conflict began with Hamas rocket fire on 30 June 2014
Times of Israel: "Hamas operatives were behind a large volley of rockets which slammed into Israel Monday morning, the first time in years the Islamist group has directly challenged the Jewish state, according to Israeli defense officials.. The security sources, who spoke on condition of anonymity, assessed that Hamas had probably launched the barrage in revenge for an Israeli airstrike several hours earlier which killed one person and injured three more.. Hamas hasn't fired rockets into Israel since Operation Pillar of Defense ended in November 2012." The Nation: "During ten days of Operation Brother's Keeper in the West Bank [before the start of the Gaza conflict], Israel arrested approximately 800 Palestinians without charge or trial, killed nine civilians and raided nearly 1,300 residential, commercial and public buildings. Its military operation targeted Hamas members released during the Gilad Shalit prisoner exchange in 2011."
Debunking Israel s 11 Main Myths About Gaza Hamas and War Crimes Mehdi Hasan
The reality is that gaza is 50% arable open land that anyone with a computer can see for themselves. So the excuse that it is densely populated is a fallacy as only the 50% that is inhabited is densely populated. Go to Google Maps and change to satellite view and you will see just how much is arable open land.
Another monte lie busted
P F Tinmore
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Palestine is not at war with any of its neighbors.Negotiate peace with whom? They are not at war with any of their neighbors.Negotiate what? Israel never negotiated in good faith.Why do Israel supporters favor death and destruction? How can anyone make peace with animals like that?
It is the Palestinians that favour death and destruction and it shows when they refuse point blank to negotiate a settlement. Care to show where in the Israeli constitution/charter it states the destruction of Palestine and the death of all Palestinians. Like it does in the many Palestinian charters.................
Why waste the time?
Two treaties that have stood the test of time with Jordan and Egypt. Now what have the Palestinians ever negotiated ?
Tell that to Jordan, Egypt and Israel who they are constantly at war with. And your LIEs no longer work as Palestine still has no borders according to the UN. By the way I did not mention peace I mentioned negotiations honoured by Palestine, kithman and taqiya
Show some proof that it is.
Why negotiate if there is no war and no border disputes?
RoccoR
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P F Tinmore, et al,
Again, I disagree.
This is just some foolishness to justify their unlawful action by Palestinians.
From a practical aspect, firing rockets and mortars across the border into sovereign territory of Israel is an act of aggression. While the Arab Palestinian may not recognize the "JIHAD" as a war, it is a war with real casualties. It is the political policy of the Arab Palestinians to eject the State of Israel, recognized since 1948, even though the PLO exchanged letter of Mutual Recognition.
As I have said before, this pledge of conflict has gone essential unchanged for more nearly seven decades (made in February 1948) and is mimicked in Palestinian National Charter (1968), the Covenant of the Islamic Resistance Movement (1988), and more recently in a 2013 major position paper, published by Khaled Meshal, Chairman of the Hamas Political Bureau(currently hiding out on Doha, Qatar).
If there is no dispute, then why fire rockets and mortars at Israel?
You don't know how unreliable and impractical you sound when you suggest there is "no war."
Article 1
Aggression is the use of armed force by a State against the sovereignty, territorial integrity or political independence of another State, or in any other manner inconsistent with the Charter of the United Nations, as set out in this Definition.
Explanatory note: In this Definition the term "State":
Article 2
The First use of armed force by a State in contravention of the Charter shall constitute prima facie evidence of an act of aggression although the Security Council may, in conformity with the Charter, conclude that a determination that an act of aggression has been committed would not be justified in the light of other relevant circumstances, including the fact that the acts concerned or their consequences are not of sufficient gravity.
Most Respectfully,
R
Again, I disagree.
This is just some foolishness to justify their unlawful action by Palestinians.
(COMMENT)Palestine is not at war with any of its neighbors.
Show some proof that it is.
Why negotiate if there is no war and no border disputes?
From a practical aspect, firing rockets and mortars across the border into sovereign territory of Israel is an act of aggression. While the Arab Palestinian may not recognize the "JIHAD" as a war, it is a war with real casualties. It is the political policy of the Arab Palestinians to eject the State of Israel, recognized since 1948, even though the PLO exchanged letter of Mutual Recognition.
As I have said before, this pledge of conflict has gone essential unchanged for more nearly seven decades (made in February 1948) and is mimicked in Palestinian National Charter (1968), the Covenant of the Islamic Resistance Movement (1988), and more recently in a 2013 major position paper, published by Khaled Meshal, Chairman of the Hamas Political Bureau(currently hiding out on Doha, Qatar).
If there is no dispute, then why fire rockets and mortars at Israel?
You don't know how unreliable and impractical you sound when you suggest there is "no war."
Article 1
Aggression is the use of armed force by a State against the sovereignty, territorial integrity or political independence of another State, or in any other manner inconsistent with the Charter of the United Nations, as set out in this Definition.
Explanatory note: In this Definition the term "State":
(a) Is used without prejudice to questions of recognition or to whether a State is a member of the United Nations;
(b) Includes the concept of a "group of States" where appropriate.
Article 2
The First use of armed force by a State in contravention of the Charter shall constitute prima facie evidence of an act of aggression although the Security Council may, in conformity with the Charter, conclude that a determination that an act of aggression has been committed would not be justified in the light of other relevant circumstances, including the fact that the acts concerned or their consequences are not of sufficient gravity.
Most Respectfully,
R
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