kyzr
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And shall we discuss Rump's policies too. I answered your OP. I dont' really give a fuck about your concerns about "the other guy" which you said weren't the issue. Cough much?I don't care about odds because the betting houses fix the odds to lay off risk, so it doesn't tell you anything besides where the bettors money is. I don't really care about polls at this point either, beyond that with a trend you … see a trend. But they don't even claim to be predicting what the trend will be in a month, let alone 4-5 mos from now. And I don't really see how anyone can say they like A without referencing B.The democrats keep listing the things that they don't like about Trump, "ad nauseam "
But looking at both men individually, how they would perform in press conferences, how they would evaluate information and make serious decisions, how they process information, etc. Which would be a more capable president for the next 4-years?
Here is the Vegas betting odds, Trump is still a 2:1 favorite over Biden. A real "poll" with real money. (OMG Hillary is back!!)
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But for the first time 92 I'll definitely be voting dem. I didn't find Obama that objectionable, but I thought both McCain and Mitt saw the world through more realistic lenses, and I think if Obama had really bent on healthcare, he could have gotten a much less ambitious, but longer lasting HC fix.
I'll vote Biden solely because his campaign is at the base focused on trying to return discourse, and esp voting in the senate, to achieving some consensus that is arrived at by focusing less on ideology to pragmatically trying to accomplish something about some problem. I'm not sure that's possible with McConnell and Graham, who have changed over the past 10 and esp 3 years. But I think we had a much better govt during the Reagan and HW years and into the beginning of W's term. Until Iraq.
Maybe you haven't seen the democrat's policy "wish list"??
If/when the dems take control of government these are the policies that they will push for:
1. Open borders, tear down the southern border fence/wall
2. Sanctuary cities & states
3. Free college
4. "Medicare for all", aka rationed healthcare, "Lois Lerner" in charge of your access to healthcare
5. Eliminate ICE and DHS, turn the US into the EU, with muslim "no go zones" and Sharia Law
6. Promote Globalism, whatever Wall Street wants Wall Street gets, see K-Street Cash
7. Paris Climate Change Treaty where the US pays $trillions to poor countries
8. Stupid trade agreements, e.g tax breaks to move factories overseas
9. Let China run roughshod over the US for trade and intellectual property theft
10. Let NK develop nukes and ICBM delivery systems, have no one capable of dealing with NK
11. Raise taxes to 70% on the wealthy, especially on corporations so they relocate overseas
12. Decriminalize all drug use and possession, Opioid deaths increase across the US
13. Gangs like MS-13 running rampant across the US
14. No steel or mining industries due to foreign "dumping" of subsidized products
15. No new pipelines and no offshore drilling
16. Medicare for all means rural hospitals will close
17. The dems' "Central Committee" appoints super-delegates to subvert real voters in primaries
18. Pack the US Supreme Court to promote liberal policies
19. Impeach anyone they deem not liberal enough, like Kavanaugh
20. Use the Federal Government to punish conservatives, like the IRS and Lois Lerner hounded conservatives
21. Use the Intel community to spy on the opposition party, like Hillary, FusionGPS, and the FBI/DOJ spied on Trump
22. Block voter ID laws to ensure fraud, and promote "vote harvesting" to steal elections
23. Refuse to provide funding for border walls/security, which DHS says is desperately needed.
24. Give $Trillions to Mexico and Central America for a Marshal Plan, but not help US citizens living in tent cities
25. Impose gun control, outlaw private gun sales, outlaw AR style rifles, restrict sales of bullets, etc.
26. "Green New Deal" Impose a "carbon tax" to punish anyone who works, heats their home, flies, or has a car
27. Anti-business democrat socialists caused Amazon to flee NYC taking 25,000 good paying jobs to VA
28. REPARATIONS to blacks to pay for slavery, $trillions owed by US voters
29. Excuse the murder of unwanted newborns, i.e. "infanticide"
30. Change the Electoral College to popular vote
31. All prisoners get to vote, even the Boston Marathon Bomber, so says Bernie
32. LGBTQ rights, trannys in military
33. Increase domestic surveillance, especially on "white supremacist" organizations
34. Add Senators and congressmen for DC and Puerto Rico
35. Be sure that any "red flag" laws exclude gang members (only get those rural guns)
36. Full welfare and free healthcare for illegal immigrants
37. Eliminate Hallmark channel for being racist, sexist and anti-LGBTQ
38. Eliminate the "cash bail system" whereby all criminals walk out after committing a crime.
39. Nationalize all of the electric utilities making them green by 2030
40. Pass "The New Way Forward Act", bringing back 480,000 deported illegals, giving them free everything
I listed the democrat's policies. Please list the Trump policies that he is running on....
Nevermind here they are, please tell me which you don't support, or prefer the democrats' policies:
Where President Trump stands on the issues in 2020
President Donald Trump has been known to switch positions, making it hard to pin down where he stands on an issue at any given time. But Trump does have a track record on a broad range of topics, from immigration to health care, climate change to foreign affairs.
www.pbs.org
