Who has the better "killer" points to hammer out a win Thursday's debate? (Poll)

[kyzr]

If you were coaching Trump or Biden what are the few "extemporaneous killer points" that you need hammered home to win the debate?
(no cheat sheets are allowed, so the points need to be extemporaneous)

Trump's "Hammers" are:

Foreign Policy
“Always Wrong” Biden or “Genocide Joe” is a foreign policy disaster, Ukraine, Gaza, China, Israel, Taiwan, Africa
Held in CONTEMPT by the Brits for his disastrous AFG withdrawal

Open Borders
Open Borders Biden is a National Security disaster, 100,000 Chinese, 50,000 Russians, criminals, terrorists, drug & human trafficking
Stupid Joe wanted to pay MIGRANTS $450,000 each for breaking US immigration LAWS??????

Domestic Policies
Runaway inflation is costing US families about $1,000 a month is buying power.
Biden turned the US into a banana republic by misusing the FBI & IRS to harass opponents w/LAWFARE
Biden’s DOJ sent the FBI after parents (aka domestic terrorists) who dare to ask questions at school board meetings.

War on Energy
Biden killed the development of ANWR, but he’s begging Putin to pump more oil???
Biden’s “war on energy” is pushing gas and diesel to unaffordable levels, causing “runaway inflation”.
He pissed off the Canadians by killing the KeystoneXL pipeline, that’s 500,000 bbls a day he killed.

Entrenched “Deep State” & “Woke” Leftist policies
Biden wants 87,000 armed IRS agents willing to KILL!! WTF???
Biden forgiving $127b of student loan debt is unconstitutional
Biden let the Chinese spy balloon fly across the US and send back the data, TRAITOR.

Double Standard of “Justice”
Biden’s extortion and bribery schemes are being outed by whistleblowers. NO DOJ INVESTIGATION
Biden stole classified documents; did he sell them to anyone? NO INDICTMENT, Joe's too mentally incompetent to stand trial?



Biden's much simpler "killer" points against Trump could include:
Smith's J6 indictment
Smith's classified docs indictment
Fani's election interference indictment
Bragg's 34 felony convictions
Letitia's $355,000,000 penalty for wrong numbers on a loan application

Not sure what others Joe could use? Please add for Joe, or refute Trump's.

 

[1srelluc]

Meh, just poke FJB with a stick every now and again and let him yell at clouds.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

 

[rightwinger]

Lets see

Biden can hit Trump for calling Putin a Genius for invading Ukraine
Biden can hit Trump for encouraging Putin to invade Ukraine
Biden can hit Trump for recommending the Constitution be terminated
Biden can hit Trump for refusing to stop the Jan 6 Attack
Biden can hit Trump for two impeachments, 34 felony convictions and 50 pending felony charges

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Meh, just poke FJB with a stick every now and again and let him yell at clouds.

 

[rightwinger]

Meh, just poke FJB with a stick every now and again and let him yell at clouds.

Of the two, Trump has the shorter fuse
Biden has been briefed on what buttons to push that set Trump off

How to piss off Trump

He can’t pay his legal bills
His businesses are failing
He is guilty of Business Fraud
He is liable for sexual assault
He is a convicted Felon

 

[kyzr]

[MEDIA]

That 1st debate cost Trump my wife's vote.

She said NFW she could vote for that AH.

After Biden's inflation and open borders she's singing a different tune.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

That 1st debate cost Trump my wife's vote.

She said NFW she could vote for that AH.

After Biden's inflation and open borders she's singing a different tune.

She'll come around. A rapist and convicted felon?

 

[kyzr]

Lets see

Biden can hit Trump for calling Putin a Genius for invading Ukraine
Biden can hit Trump for encouraging Putin to invade Ukraine
Biden can hit Trump for recommending the Constitution be terminated
Biden can hit Trump for refusing to stop the Jan 6 Attack
Biden can hit Trump for two impeachments, 34 felony convictions and 50 pending felony charges

Fair points. The only one I dispute is that he refused to stop the J6 attack. Actually Trump and Capitol Police Chief Sund requested the National Guard to keep the peace, and Pelosi and Bowser denied the requests.

 

[kyzr]

She'll come around. A rapist and convicted felon?

1. He's not a rapist. Look again.
2. Those 34 felonies are bullshit and will be gone on appeal.

 

[martybegan]

Lets see

Biden can hit Trump for calling Putin a Genius for invading Ukraine
Biden can hit Trump for encouraging Putin to invade Ukraine
Biden can hit Trump for recommending the Constitution be terminated
Biden can hit Trump for refusing to stop the Jan 6 Attack
Biden can hit Trump for two impeachments, 34 felony convictions and 50 pending felony charges

None of which are things that are actually fucking over US Citizens on a day to day basis.

 

[rightwinger]

Fair points. The only one I dispute is that he refused to stop the J6 attack. Actually Trump and Capitol Police Chief Sund requested the National Guard to keep the peace, and Pelosi and Bowser denied the requests.

Key staff, family members and top Republicans contacted Trump to urge him to do something
He waited three hours before he took action

Pelosi never denied anything

 

[rightwinger]

None of which are things that are actually fucking over US Citizens on a day to day basis.

Demonstrates Trumps inability to lead and loyalty to Putin

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

1. He's not a rapist. Look again.
2. Those 34 felonies are bullshit and will be gone on appeal.

FOX tried to spin this like they tried spinning and lying about Jan 6. and the vote in 2020.​

ABC News' George Stephanopoulos inaccurately said Trump was found ‘liable for rape’ 10 times, legal gurus say

Legal experts say ABC News anchor George Stephanopoulos misrepresented what a jury found in the 2023 civil trial of advice columnist E. Jean Carroll vs. Trump.

www.foxnews.com

But in the real world outside of Trump-land/Magadonia​

Judge clarifies: Yes, Trump was found to have raped E. Jean Carroll​

Judge says E Jean Carroll allegation Trump raped her is ‘substantially true’ in court dismissal​

Ex-president claimed that writer defamed him when saying he raped her, but judge said term is commonly ‘used and understood’ in context

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Key staff, family members and top Republicans contacted Trump to urge him to do something
He waited three hours before he took action

Pelosi never denied anything

Yes.

Trump almost jerked off over watching riots in his name -- live. It's said his pants were stained.

 

[WelfareQueen]

She'll come around. A rapist and convicted felon?

Versus a corrupt, brain-dead, pedophile.

 

[justoffal]

None of which are things that are actually fucking over US Citizens on a day to day basis.

Call the American public self-centered if you wish.... But I agree with you. None of the things related to any of the legal cases are going to make even so much as a dent in public opinion.

The two biggest dents to be had are pain at the grocery store and the incursion of illegal citizens. This is what is on the mind 90% of people today in a real time basis.

 

[Foxfyre]

If you were coaching Trump or Biden what are the few "extemporaneous killer points" that you need hammered home to win the debate?
(no cheat sheets are allowed, so the points need to be extemporaneous)

Trump's "Hammers" are:

Foreign Policy
“Always Wrong” Biden or “Genocide Joe” is a foreign policy disaster, Ukraine, Gaza, China, Israel, Taiwan, Africa
Held in CONTEMPT by the Brits for his disastrous AFG withdrawal

Open Borders
Open Borders Biden is a National Security disaster, 100,000 Chinese, 50,000 Russians, criminals, terrorists, drug & human trafficking
Stupid Joe wanted to pay MIGRANTS $450,000 each for breaking US immigration LAWS??????

Domestic Policies
Runaway inflation is costing US families about $1,000 a month is buying power.
Biden turned the US into a banana republic by misusing the FBI & IRS to harass opponents w/LAWFARE
Biden’s DOJ sent the FBI after parents (aka domestic terrorists) who dare to ask questions at school board meetings.

War on Energy
Biden killed the development of ANWR, but he’s begging Putin to pump more oil???
Biden’s “war on energy” is pushing gas and diesel to unaffordable levels, causing “runaway inflation”.
He pissed off the Canadians by killing the KeystoneXL pipeline, that’s 500,000 bbls a day he killed.

Entrenched “Deep State” & “Woke” Leftist policies
Biden wants 87,000 armed IRS agents willing to KILL!! WTF???
Biden forgiving $127b of student loan debt is unconstitutional
Biden let the Chinese spy balloon fly across the US and send back the data, TRAITOR.

Double Standard of “Justice”
Biden’s extortion and bribery schemes are being outed by whistleblowers. NO DOJ INVESTIGATION
Biden stole classified documents; did he sell them to anyone? NO INDICTMENT, Joe's too mentally incompetent to stand trial?



Biden's much simpler "killer" points against Trump could include:
Smith's J6 indictment
Smith's classified docs indictment
Fani's election interference indictment
Bragg's 34 felony convictions
Letitia's $355,000,000 penalty for wrong numbers on a loan application

Not sure what others Joe could use? Please add for Joe, or refute Trump's.

All Trump needs to do is keep things factual and not come across as a bully to the 'sweet, kind, lovable' Uncle Joe in order to win on all points.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Versus a corrupt, brain-dead, pedophile.

A rapist and convicted felon?

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

All Trump needs to do is keep things factual...

thank you'


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