Who is Responible for the Benghazi debacle and how should they pay for it

[High_Gravity]

When are they going to find the murderers? Are they even looking?

I doubt it, the people that did are most likely not even in Libya anymore.

 

[High_Gravity]

So no one will admit that Hillary was responsible for their securiry? They are dead because of a lack of security. That puts the responsibility squarely on her shoulders.

Whoever was in charge of security for our Embassy personnel in Libya should take the blame, if thats Hillary than yes its her.

 

[Claudette]

Don't yet know who is responsible, though I can make some guesses.

As for "paying for it", I assume you mean punishment. I'm kind of indifferent to that, though justice should be done for the four people killed.

I'm mostly concerned that whoever caused it, or set them up to die, or however it winds up having happened... that person or persons must be removed from government and banned from any future govt office. And then the other punishment can be determined by a court.

Do I think it'll actually happen?

Naw. It'll get stalled forever, and eventually brushed under the rug, just as Fast&Furious was.

Good post and I agree.

No one will be held accountable and its just a crying shame that four very good men died because of the Obama State Departments abject incompetence.

Let us just hope that some lesson will be learned so this doesn't happen again.

 

[hortysir]

We know who's responsible for the attack, itself, nutbars.

The "debacle" referred to in the OP is the lies and cover-ups that happened since.

Has Libya even handed over the people they had in custody yet?

 

[rightwinger]

So no one will admit that Hillary was responsible for their securiry? They are dead because of a lack of security. That puts the responsibility squarely on her shoulders.

Whoever was in charge of security for our Embassy personnel in Libya should take the blame, if thats Hillary than yes its her.

The problem is security at all embassies. Security as a whole has been cut back and we paid a price. Regardless, there is no evidence that even an enhanced force could have repelled the attack

 

[bornright]

Who is Responible for the Benghazi debacle and how should they pay for it

The evidence from the testimony leads one to think this is on Hillary.

I think this is above Obama's pay grade and he probably don't know anymore about it than we do. He is no more than a spokesman. He says what he is told to say.

If this turns out the way it appears there is not enough punishment on the books for that individual or individuals.

 

[bornright]

The cover-up has always been worse than the crime and Nixon was forced out of office over a 3rd rate burglary. Here we have an obvious cover-up of what seems to be at the very least a case of negligent homicide.

In this case I am not sure the crime is not much worse than the cover up.

 

[Erand7899]

Well, you forgot to put "Crazy, radical Muslims" on that list.

Funny. When crime happens here in America, people want to blame ONLY the criminal. They dont tolerate putting blame on parents, schools, society at large, politics. Only the dirtbag who did the crime.

When 9-11-2001 happened, right wingers blamed only Muslims and Islam. Not Bush. Not Cheney. Not anyone or anything except Islam and Muslims (and a tad of Bill Clinton maybe, but not til later).



So, why, then, are we not simply blaming THE ROTTEN MOTHERFUCKERS WHO CARRIED OUT THE ATTACK????????????

We do blame the the bastards who carried out the attack, just like we blame the bank robbers, muggers and murderers who carry out crimes here. However, when the 911 call goes unanswered, and the police fail to show up in a timely manner, we want to know why they failed to respond.

And, if the people in charge lie to us about what actually happened, and stonewalled the inquiry into the real facts, we want to know why they lied, and why they thought they could get away with lying.

For some strange reason, most likely related to partisan politics, most of you liberal/socialists do not want those questions asked. You need to look within yourselves to find the answer to that question.

 

[Sallow]

Well, you forgot to put "Crazy, radical Muslims" on that list.

Funny. When crime happens here in America, people want to blame ONLY the criminal. They dont tolerate putting blame on parents, schools, society at large, politics. Only the dirtbag who did the crime.

When 9-11-2001 happened, right wingers blamed only Muslims and Islam. Not Bush. Not Cheney. Not anyone or anything except Islam and Muslims (and a tad of Bill Clinton maybe, but not til later).



So, why, then, are we not simply blaming THE ROTTEN MOTHERFUCKERS WHO CARRIED OUT THE ATTACK????????????

No he didn't.

And it's nothing new.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-CAcdta_8I]Falwell and Robertson on The 700 Club after 9/11 - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Sallow]

When are they going to find the murderers? Are they even looking?

Ya know what?

bin Laden was asking the same thing when the Seals walked in.

Then why doesn't obama get them like he did bin laden?

Lets see, the Somalian Pirates, Osama Bin Laden, Mommar Ghaddafi, Alwaki..

Give it time.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

So no one will admit that Hillary was responsible for their securiry? They are dead because of a lack of security. That puts the responsibility squarely on her shoulders.

Whoever was in charge of security for our Embassy personnel in Libya should take the blame, if thats Hillary than yes its her.

The problem is security at all embassies. Security as a whole has been cut back and we paid a price. Regardless, there is no evidence that even an enhanced force could have repelled the attack

Nonsense. All nonsense

 

[Sallow]

Whoever was in charge of security for our Embassy personnel in Libya should take the blame, if thats Hillary than yes its her.

The problem is security at all embassies. Security as a whole has been cut back and we paid a price. Regardless, there is no evidence that even an enhanced force could have repelled the attack

Nonsense. All nonsense

What nonsense?

Almost the exact same scenario was played out in the black hawk down, event.

How'd that turn out?

 

[Darkwind]

Embassies are the responsibility of the State Department. The final responsibility falls on that Cabinet.

 

[Oldstyle]

Jon Stewart nailed it (again!) last night.

The Daily Show with Jon Stewart - Political Comedy - Fake News | Comedy Central

Even the conspiracy nutters will find something to like in this segment.

To be quite honest with you, Luddly...Jon Stewart's attempt at "levity" over the deaths of those four Americans falls flat. This isn't a laughing affair. It's a legitimate scandal. It's an Administration failing at it's most important duty...keeping Americans safe. Hilary Clinton hung our diplomats in Libya out to dry because she was fully committed to a re-election year narrative that the Obama Administration had Al Queda on the run and having to beef up security in Libya would belie that. But beyond that, it's the shameful lack of a response to the attacks by this Administration that is what is most deplorable...followed by the blatant attempt to mislead the American people with a complete fabrication about a mob incensed over the YouTube video rioting and killing our people.

This isn't a "nutter" conspiracy thing. This is people who are genuinely upset that politics trumped doing the right thing. This is people who are genuinely pissed off that we now have an Administration in place that thinks they CAN tell blatant lies to the American people and that the main stream media will cover for them.

 

[bodecea]

The usual suspects.

Conservatives. And they should all suffer the same fate as Benedict Arnold.

Take the money, let someone else die for them, and run away in exile the rest of their lives?

 

[bodecea]

When are they going to find the murderers? Are they even looking?

Ya know what?

bin Laden was asking the same thing when the Seals walked in.

Then why doesn't obama get them like he did bin laden?

What makes you think they aren't working on it? One thing I DO know....the Republicans sure aren't working on getting the actual murderers.....are they?

 

[Oldstyle]

The problem is security at all embassies. Security as a whole has been cut back and we paid a price. Regardless, there is no evidence that even an enhanced force could have repelled the attack

Nonsense. All nonsense

What nonsense?

Almost the exact same scenario was played out in the black hawk down, event.

How'd that turn out?

It turned out completely different than Somalia, you Asshat! We went to rescue our downed military personnel in that instance...we didn't sit on our hands because we didn't like how it would play out in the media.

Members of this Administration turned their backs on the Americans fighting for their lives at the Annex that day in Benghazi...and they did so FOR POLITICAL REASONS!!! What they did was so despicable it absolutely infuriates me.

 

[bodecea]

Embassies are the responsibility of the State Department. The final responsibility falls on that Cabinet.

This took place at an EMBASSY? or a CIA safe house?

 

[Oldstyle]

Ya know what?

bin Laden was asking the same thing when the Seals walked in.

Then why doesn't obama get them like he did bin laden?

What makes you think they aren't working on it? One thing I DO know....the Republicans sure aren't working on getting the actual murderers.....are they?

Who's in the Oval Office? Is it a Republican? The "Commander In Chief" is Barack Obama. He is the man in charge.

 

[Sallow]

Nonsense. All nonsense

What nonsense?

Almost the exact same scenario was played out in the black hawk down, event.

How'd that turn out?

It turned out completely different than Somalia, you Asshat! We went to rescue our downed military personnel in that instance...we didn't sit on our hands because we didn't like how it would play out in the media.

Members of this Administration turned their backs on the Americans fighting for their lives at the Annex that day in Benghazi...and they did so FOR POLITICAL REASONS!!! What they did was so despicable it absolutely infuriates me.

No fuckface.

It wasn't a "rescue" mission..it was "capture" mission gone bad.

Asshole.