Who Needs Planned Parenthood??

[Redfish]

When is abortion going to be banned?

I can understand your attempt to change the direction of the thread, as your position is untenable.

To remind all......the question is whether or not federal funding should go to this savage institution, Planned Parenthood.

I vote no.

About 60% of Americans vote 'yes'. You lose the referendum if you want to play that game.

"Furthermore, 72 percent of voters agree that “taxpayer dollars would be better spent directed to the more than 13,000 health centers and hospitals providing comprehensive women’s health care.”


We can make sure women have access to health carewithout using taxpayer dollars to fund an organization responsible for around one out of every three abortions in the United States."
What Miss Tenn. Got Wrong About Planned Parenthood, Women’s Health

Poll: By 2-1, funding for Planned Parenthood supported

Looks like the Conservative witch hunt against Planned Parenthood is not working

Looks like the liberal push to destroy millions of black children is working.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Gads....you are gullible....

1. "Planned Parenthood’s business model is centered on abortion. Former Planned Parenthood clinic director Abby Johnson has written that she was given an abortion quota, and was even told by her superiors to “double the number of abortions” in order to bring in more revenue.[vii] Abortion patients constitute 12 percent of Planned Parenthood clients -- 332,000 of 3 million unduplicated clients in its most current report. 37 percent of all Planned Parenthood clinic income revenue is from abortion procedures, according to conservative estimates. Planned Parenthood has issued a directive instructing that all affiliates must have at least one clinic that performs abortion by 2013.[viii] According to an NBC news report from December 2012, our of the “74 regional affiliates” a handful of those affiliates chose to leave the organization, rather than comply with the policy."
Top 12 Reasons to Defund Planned Parenthood Now | SBA-List


2. "...Planned Parenthood "raked in more than $300 million in profits over the past four years." We'll focus on two parts: Is the dollar figure right, and is 'profit' the right word?

We contacted SBA List spokeswoman Mallory Quigley, who referred us to "excess of revenue over expenses" listed in Planned Parenthood's annual reports. Here is what those reports show:

2005-06: $55.8 million
2006-07: $114.8 million
2007-08: $85 million
2008-09: $63.4 million

Total: $319 million."
Abortion opponents claim Planned Parenthood had $300 million 'profit'

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

No one does.
Well....no one needs government funded slaughter of the unborn.



1. ...it may provide a level of comfort so very important to those without morality, principles, or the proper upbringing....
....what is the element that it provides?
Convenience....
.....The ability to carry on an 'if it feels good, do it' life style with no thought to who is hurt.



2. So...what the motivation for denying it government funding?
The law.

a. "Passed by Congress in 1976, the Hyde Amendment excludes abortion from the comprehensive health care services provided to low-income people by the federal government through Medicaid. "
Public Funding for Abortion


b. "Congress has made some exceptions to the funding ban, which have varied over the years. At present, the federal Medicaid program mandates abortion funding in cases of rape or incest, as well as when a pregnant woman's life is endangered..."
Ibid.





3. Let's deal with the so very overused idea of "cases of rape or incest."
The concept that there are "cases of rape or incest" is a chimera.
They really don't exist.....well, the fact is that 98.5% of abortion don't involve either abhorrent event.
The cases in which abortion is for rape, 1%; and .5% incest. http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/psrh/full/3711005.pdf



4. Well....how about when a pregnant woman's life is endangered? In just 12% of the cases were there 'concerns' for the mother’s health, according to reports. (Ibid.)

The problem here is that there is no objective criterion for "the mother's health." Anyone who can prevail on her doctor to write a note including the word "health" can get in under that clause.
I'm bettin' that the 12% figure is rally more like that of rape or incest.



5. So......what is the reason for extinguishing the life of the incipient human baby in the vast.....vast.....majority of cases?

It is the very element that forms the pillar of Planned Parenthood's raison d'être...convenience.

Liberal governance is all about making it easy to do what one "feels like"....even to the extent of killing an about-to-be human baby.





We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
The Declaration of Independence


Based on the above, from America's founding document, every patriotic American, every conservative, is pro-life.

PP doesn't get federal funds for performing abortions.

Yes they do.... BIG TIME.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

'Slaughter of the unborn'.



That's the kind of rhetoric you hear from guys who shoot abortion doctors.

It's called 'the truth.'

Then why do you refuse to endorse abortion as the crime of murder, so we can put women in prison for having abortions?

Is that what you support?

I support the Hyde amendment.

I support the Hyde amendment

But don't understand it at all.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

I can understand your attempt to change the direction of the thread, as your position is untenable.

To remind all......the question is whether or not federal funding should go to this savage institution, Planned Parenthood.

I vote no.

About 60% of Americans vote 'yes'. You lose the referendum if you want to play that game.

"Furthermore, 72 percent of voters agree that “taxpayer dollars would be better spent directed to the more than 13,000 health centers and hospitals providing comprehensive women’s health care.”


We can make sure women have access to health carewithout using taxpayer dollars to fund an organization responsible for around one out of every three abortions in the United States."
What Miss Tenn. Got Wrong About Planned Parenthood, Women’s Health

Poll: By 2-1, funding for Planned Parenthood supported

Looks like the Conservative witch hunt against Planned Parenthood is not working

Looks like the liberal push to destroy millions of black children is working.

Liberals have been at war with minorities for decades. They hate the darkies.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

They use the word "fungible" and stand there like a toddler next to the toilet who made his first poo poo admiring their handy work...lol its kind of pathetic...

 

[PoliticalChic]

You are a known liar....so, cannot have 'credibility.'

That's pretty much by definition.

you think wing nuts like you should be bringing up"credibility' you are a Pro war, safety net shredding , poor folk hating POS how much credibility can a POS have ...none

Must I teach you dolts English, as well as history, economics and politics????


credible
(ˈkrɛdɪbəl)
adj
1. capable of being believed
2. trustworthy or reliable: the latest claim is the only one to involve a credible witness.
[C14: from Latin crēdibilis, from Latin crēdere to believe]
credible


Since you cannot show my posts to be other than true, accurate and correct....I fit that definition.

 

[PoliticalChic]

When is abortion going to be banned?

I can understand your attempt to change the direction of the thread, as your position is untenable.

To remind all......the question is whether or not federal funding should go to this savage institution, Planned Parenthood.

I vote no.

About 60% of Americans vote 'yes'. You lose the referendum if you want to play that game.

"Furthermore, 72 percent of voters agree that “taxpayer dollars would be better spent directed to the more than 13,000 health centers and hospitals providing comprehensive women’s health care.”


We can make sure women have access to health carewithout using taxpayer dollars to fund an organization responsible for around one out of every three abortions in the United States."
What Miss Tenn. Got Wrong About Planned Parenthood, Women’s Health

Poll: By 2-1, funding for Planned Parenthood supported

Looks like the Conservative witch hunt against Planned Parenthood is not working

How come you always root for the evil side?

 

[Hutch Starskey]

No one does.
Well....no one needs government funded slaughter of the unborn.



1. ...it may provide a level of comfort so very important to those without morality, principles, or the proper upbringing....
....what is the element that it provides?
Convenience....
.....The ability to carry on an 'if it feels good, do it' life style with no thought to who is hurt.



2. So...what the motivation for denying it government funding?
The law.

a. "Passed by Congress in 1976, the Hyde Amendment excludes abortion from the comprehensive health care services provided to low-income people by the federal government through Medicaid. "
Public Funding for Abortion


b. "Congress has made some exceptions to the funding ban, which have varied over the years. At present, the federal Medicaid program mandates abortion funding in cases of rape or incest, as well as when a pregnant woman's life is endangered..."
Ibid.





3. Let's deal with the so very overused idea of "cases of rape or incest."
The concept that there are "cases of rape or incest" is a chimera.
They really don't exist.....well, the fact is that 98.5% of abortion don't involve either abhorrent event.
The cases in which abortion is for rape, 1%; and .5% incest. http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/psrh/full/3711005.pdf



4. Well....how about when a pregnant woman's life is endangered? In just 12% of the cases were there 'concerns' for the mother’s health, according to reports. (Ibid.)

The problem here is that there is no objective criterion for "the mother's health." Anyone who can prevail on her doctor to write a note including the word "health" can get in under that clause.
I'm bettin' that the 12% figure is rally more like that of rape or incest.



5. So......what is the reason for extinguishing the life of the incipient human baby in the vast.....vast.....majority of cases?

It is the very element that forms the pillar of Planned Parenthood's raison d'être...convenience.

Liberal governance is all about making it easy to do what one "feels like"....even to the extent of killing an about-to-be human baby.





We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
The Declaration of Independence


Based on the above, from America's founding document, every patriotic American, every conservative, is pro-life.

PP doesn't get federal funds for performing abortions.

PP gets federal funding, there is no way to tell how they use that money. Since their major activity is performing abortions, it is very likely that federal funding has and is paying for abortions. At a minimum there should be an audit and if federal money has been used for abortions, PP should be prosecuted and totally defunded.

There is. It's called accounting.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

...I fit that definition.

you fit the definition of "Poltroon"

 

[NYcarbineer]

No one does.
Well....no one needs government funded slaughter of the unborn.



1. ...it may provide a level of comfort so very important to those without morality, principles, or the proper upbringing....
....what is the element that it provides?
Convenience....
.....The ability to carry on an 'if it feels good, do it' life style with no thought to who is hurt.



2. So...what the motivation for denying it government funding?
The law.

a. "Passed by Congress in 1976, the Hyde Amendment excludes abortion from the comprehensive health care services provided to low-income people by the federal government through Medicaid. "
Public Funding for Abortion


b. "Congress has made some exceptions to the funding ban, which have varied over the years. At present, the federal Medicaid program mandates abortion funding in cases of rape or incest, as well as when a pregnant woman's life is endangered..."
Ibid.





3. Let's deal with the so very overused idea of "cases of rape or incest."
The concept that there are "cases of rape or incest" is a chimera.
They really don't exist.....well, the fact is that 98.5% of abortion don't involve either abhorrent event.
The cases in which abortion is for rape, 1%; and .5% incest. http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/psrh/full/3711005.pdf



4. Well....how about when a pregnant woman's life is endangered? In just 12% of the cases were there 'concerns' for the mother’s health, according to reports. (Ibid.)

The problem here is that there is no objective criterion for "the mother's health." Anyone who can prevail on her doctor to write a note including the word "health" can get in under that clause.
I'm bettin' that the 12% figure is rally more like that of rape or incest.



5. So......what is the reason for extinguishing the life of the incipient human baby in the vast.....vast.....majority of cases?

It is the very element that forms the pillar of Planned Parenthood's raison d'être...convenience.

Liberal governance is all about making it easy to do what one "feels like"....even to the extent of killing an about-to-be human baby.





We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
The Declaration of Independence


Based on the above, from America's founding document, every patriotic American, every conservative, is pro-life.

Great when someone with her money and private doctors thinks women should be divested of their means to receive affordable care. but why would that matter to you?

planned parenthood provides
4.5 million tests and treatment for sexually transmitted infections
3.6 million contraception related services
935,573 cancer screenings including breast exams and Pap tests
1.1 million pregnancy tests and prenatal services

Planned Parenthood’s Services

"slaughter of the unborn"... yes, how dare women utilize their constitutionally protected rights.

now tell us again how much you know about our laws.

Clearly more than you do.....have you ever heard of the Hyde amendment?

Planned Parenthood complies with the Hyde Amendment. It has neither reason nor need not to.

 

[Redfish]

No one does.
Well....no one needs government funded slaughter of the unborn.



1. ...it may provide a level of comfort so very important to those without morality, principles, or the proper upbringing....
....what is the element that it provides?
Convenience....
.....The ability to carry on an 'if it feels good, do it' life style with no thought to who is hurt.



2. So...what the motivation for denying it government funding?
The law.

a. "Passed by Congress in 1976, the Hyde Amendment excludes abortion from the comprehensive health care services provided to low-income people by the federal government through Medicaid. "
Public Funding for Abortion


b. "Congress has made some exceptions to the funding ban, which have varied over the years. At present, the federal Medicaid program mandates abortion funding in cases of rape or incest, as well as when a pregnant woman's life is endangered..."
Ibid.





3. Let's deal with the so very overused idea of "cases of rape or incest."
The concept that there are "cases of rape or incest" is a chimera.
They really don't exist.....well, the fact is that 98.5% of abortion don't involve either abhorrent event.
The cases in which abortion is for rape, 1%; and .5% incest. http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/psrh/full/3711005.pdf



4. Well....how about when a pregnant woman's life is endangered? In just 12% of the cases were there 'concerns' for the mother’s health, according to reports. (Ibid.)

The problem here is that there is no objective criterion for "the mother's health." Anyone who can prevail on her doctor to write a note including the word "health" can get in under that clause.
I'm bettin' that the 12% figure is rally more like that of rape or incest.



5. So......what is the reason for extinguishing the life of the incipient human baby in the vast.....vast.....majority of cases?

It is the very element that forms the pillar of Planned Parenthood's raison d'être...convenience.

Liberal governance is all about making it easy to do what one "feels like"....even to the extent of killing an about-to-be human baby.





We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
The Declaration of Independence


Based on the above, from America's founding document, every patriotic American, every conservative, is pro-life.

PP doesn't get federal funds for performing abortions.

PP gets federal funding, there is no way to tell how they use that money. Since their major activity is performing abortions, it is very likely that federal funding has and is paying for abortions. At a minimum there should be an audit and if federal money has been used for abortions, PP should be prosecuted and totally defunded.

There is. It's called accounting.

The CEO of PP is in front of congress today. Lets see whether she can justify the "accounting".

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

They actually think that their OCD anti-abortion fanaticism is moral............

 

[Redfish]

No one does.
Well....no one needs government funded slaughter of the unborn.



1. ...it may provide a level of comfort so very important to those without morality, principles, or the proper upbringing....
....what is the element that it provides?
Convenience....
.....The ability to carry on an 'if it feels good, do it' life style with no thought to who is hurt.



2. So...what the motivation for denying it government funding?
The law.

a. "Passed by Congress in 1976, the Hyde Amendment excludes abortion from the comprehensive health care services provided to low-income people by the federal government through Medicaid. "
Public Funding for Abortion


b. "Congress has made some exceptions to the funding ban, which have varied over the years. At present, the federal Medicaid program mandates abortion funding in cases of rape or incest, as well as when a pregnant woman's life is endangered..."
Ibid.





3. Let's deal with the so very overused idea of "cases of rape or incest."
The concept that there are "cases of rape or incest" is a chimera.
They really don't exist.....well, the fact is that 98.5% of abortion don't involve either abhorrent event.
The cases in which abortion is for rape, 1%; and .5% incest. http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/psrh/full/3711005.pdf



4. Well....how about when a pregnant woman's life is endangered? In just 12% of the cases were there 'concerns' for the mother’s health, according to reports. (Ibid.)

The problem here is that there is no objective criterion for "the mother's health." Anyone who can prevail on her doctor to write a note including the word "health" can get in under that clause.
I'm bettin' that the 12% figure is rally more like that of rape or incest.



5. So......what is the reason for extinguishing the life of the incipient human baby in the vast.....vast.....majority of cases?

It is the very element that forms the pillar of Planned Parenthood's raison d'être...convenience.

Liberal governance is all about making it easy to do what one "feels like"....even to the extent of killing an about-to-be human baby.





We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
The Declaration of Independence


Based on the above, from America's founding document, every patriotic American, every conservative, is pro-life.

Great when someone with her money and private doctors thinks women should be divested of their means to receive affordable care. but why would that matter to you?

planned parenthood provides
4.5 million tests and treatment for sexually transmitted infections
3.6 million contraception related services
935,573 cancer screenings including breast exams and Pap tests
1.1 million pregnancy tests and prenatal services

Planned Parenthood’s Services

"slaughter of the unborn"... yes, how dare women utilize their constitutionally protected rights.

now tell us again how much you know about our laws.

Clearly more than you do.....have you ever heard of the Hyde amendment?

Planned Parenthood complies with the Hyde Amendment. It has neither reason nor need not to.

then they should welcome an audit. Have they opened their books? We may find out today since the CEO of PP is testifying before congress.

 

[PoliticalChic]

They use the word "fungible" and stand there like a toddler next to the toilet who made his first poo poo admiring their handy work...lol its kind of pathetic...

Seems you'd like to refute the point made, i.e., that every dollar given to Planned Parenthood can be used for abortions.....
...but you are left with nothing by juvenile pap and an attempt to change the subject.

With apologies to Brendan Behan, watching you attempt to counter my post is like watching a Eunuch in a Harem. You want to, but just can’t.

 

[jknowgood]

I can understand your attempt to change the direction of the thread, as your position is untenable.

To remind all......the question is whether or not federal funding should go to this savage institution, Planned Parenthood.

I vote no.

About 60% of Americans vote 'yes'. You lose the referendum if you want to play that game.

"Furthermore, 72 percent of voters agree that “taxpayer dollars would be better spent directed to the more than 13,000 health centers and hospitals providing comprehensive women’s health care.”


We can make sure women have access to health carewithout using taxpayer dollars to fund an organization responsible for around one out of every three abortions in the United States."
What Miss Tenn. Got Wrong About Planned Parenthood, Women’s Health

Poll: By 2-1, funding for Planned Parenthood supported

Looks like the Conservative witch hunt against Planned Parenthood is not working

Looks like the liberal push to destroy millions of black children is working.

Between abortion, and the liberal shit holes they live in killing each other daily. They will always be a minority. The bad part is they vote for these people.

 

[PoliticalChic]

They actually think that their OCD anti-abortion fanaticism is moral............

Being anti-murder seems to me, a reputable position to take.

"The despicable assault on the helpless, with the aid of the Obama administration, is even more powerful than it has been heretofore. It’s time to take the gloves off and show young women what actually happens to the babies inside them."
Planned Parenthood: Over 333,000 Babies Aborted in 2011 - Breitbart

 

[PoliticalChic]

Hillary: Republicans don’t just oppose abortion. They oppose family planning and contraception.

They oppose abortion and every thing else that could actually reduce abortions.........

The GOP has no interest in banning abortion. They know it's not going to happen, for starters.

The GOP is desperately clinging onto what few special interest groups are stupid enough to support them, and pandering to the anti-choice extremists is just one part of that strategy.

nice recitation of a dem talking point. its totally wrong, but you did accurately repeat it like a good little mindless parrot.

When is abortion going to be banned?

realistically probably never. But it should be very limited. Rape, incest, or the life of the mother. Not as a form of birth control or a way to reduce the black birth rate.

which requires sex education, birth control and services to women like education and job training and daycare AFTER the child is born.

all things the radical right hates.

Wouldn't you say that not knowing of the Hyde amendment speaks directly to your lack of education?

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

They actually think that their OCD anti-abortion fanaticism is moral............

Being anti-murder seems to me, a reputable position to take.

"The despicable assault on the helpless, with the aid of the Obama administration, is even more powerful than it has been heretofore. It’s time to take the gloves off and show young women what actually happens to the babies inside them."
Planned Parenthood: Over 333,000 Babies Aborted in 2011 - Breitbart

Murder is a crime...abortion is not ...no matter how hysterical you get no matter if you set your hair on fire while wearing pasties and a G string singing God Bless America ...Abortion is not murder.........

 

[NYcarbineer]

No one does.
Well....no one needs government funded slaughter of the unborn.



1. ...it may provide a level of comfort so very important to those without morality, principles, or the proper upbringing....
....what is the element that it provides?
Convenience....
.....The ability to carry on an 'if it feels good, do it' life style with no thought to who is hurt.



2. So...what the motivation for denying it government funding?
The law.

a. "Passed by Congress in 1976, the Hyde Amendment excludes abortion from the comprehensive health care services provided to low-income people by the federal government through Medicaid. "
Public Funding for Abortion


b. "Congress has made some exceptions to the funding ban, which have varied over the years. At present, the federal Medicaid program mandates abortion funding in cases of rape or incest, as well as when a pregnant woman's life is endangered..."
Ibid.





3. Let's deal with the so very overused idea of "cases of rape or incest."
The concept that there are "cases of rape or incest" is a chimera.
They really don't exist.....well, the fact is that 98.5% of abortion don't involve either abhorrent event.
The cases in which abortion is for rape, 1%; and .5% incest. http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/psrh/full/3711005.pdf



4. Well....how about when a pregnant woman's life is endangered? In just 12% of the cases were there 'concerns' for the mother’s health, according to reports. (Ibid.)

The problem here is that there is no objective criterion for "the mother's health." Anyone who can prevail on her doctor to write a note including the word "health" can get in under that clause.
I'm bettin' that the 12% figure is rally more like that of rape or incest.



5. So......what is the reason for extinguishing the life of the incipient human baby in the vast.....vast.....majority of cases?

It is the very element that forms the pillar of Planned Parenthood's raison d'être...convenience.

Liberal governance is all about making it easy to do what one "feels like"....even to the extent of killing an about-to-be human baby.





We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
The Declaration of Independence


Based on the above, from America's founding document, every patriotic American, every conservative, is pro-life.

PP doesn't get federal funds for performing abortions.

PP gets federal funding, there is no way to tell how they use that money. Since their major activity is performing abortions, it is very likely that federal funding has and is paying for abortions. At a minimum there should be an audit and if federal money has been used for abortions, PP should be prosecuted and totally defunded.

There is. It's called accounting.

There are two categories of RWnuts on that issue. The really stupid ones who don't understand accounting, and the less stupid ones who are just lying.