Who Needs Planned Parenthood??

[PoliticalChic]

They actually think that their OCD anti-abortion fanaticism is moral............

Being anti-murder seems to me, a reputable position to take.

"The despicable assault on the helpless, with the aid of the Obama administration, is even more powerful than it has been heretofore. It’s time to take the gloves off and show young women what actually happens to the babies inside them."
Planned Parenthood: Over 333,000 Babies Aborted in 2011 - Breitbart

Murder is a crime...abortion is not ...no matter how hysterical you get no matter if you set your hair on fire while wearing pasties and a G string singing God Bless America ...Abortion is not murder.........

"Murder is a crime...abortion is not ..."

Which one is responsible for the taking of an innocent human life?

You believe that abortion is murder but that women who have abortions are not murderers. Explain that to us.

"Us?"

List the names of those who have endorsed you as their spokesperson.

 

[Jackson]

What does the law say on funding abortions?

Title X does not allow federal funds to be used for abortions. Medicaid, however, does allow government money to be spent on them — in very restricted cases.

The 1977 Hyde Amendment dictated that federal Medicaid funds could only be used to fund abortions in cases of rape, incest or to protect the life of the mother. However, some states have expanded cases in which they will provide funds. Currently, 17 states allow funds to be used for "medically necessary" abortions. In those cases that these states count as medically necessary but that are not permitted by the federal guidelines, states cover the cost alone.

Fact Check: How Does Planned Parenthood Spend That Government Money?

7. Now.....let me support that statement that nobody needs government supported Planned Parenthood.




"Miss Tennessee, 21-year-old Hannah Robison, helped perpetuate the myth that ending federal funding for Planned Parenthood could hurt women’s access to health care.

[She said:]
I don’t think Planned Parenthood funding should be cut off. The $500 million that gets given to Planned Parenthood every single year goes to female care. It goes for scanning for cancer, it goes for mammograms.

And if we don’t give that funding to Planned Parenthood, those women will be out of health care for reproductive causes.


a. First, as the Media Research Center’s NewsBusters noted, Planned Parenthood doesn’t offer mammograms. “Planned Parenthood spokeswoman Liz Clark confirmed … [that] the organization does not provide mammograms at any of its health centers,”reported PolitiFact Georgia in August.


b. Nor is this a recent development. It’s not just beauty pageant contestants who are confused ...: President Barack Obama said in one of the 2012 presidential debates that “millions of women all across the country … rely on Planned Parenthood … for mammograms.”
[Hard to tell when Obama is lying, or simply wrong.]

When FactCheck.org looked into Obama’s claim, it reported that “Planned Parenthood health centers do not offer mammography.”




8. Robison’s claim that “women will be out of health care for reproductive causes” if Planned Parenthood no longer receives taxpayer dollars is also untrue. In fact, as Alliance Defending Freedom has documented, there are 13,540 health care clinics that could help women. (In contrast, Planned Parenthood has 665 clinics.)

If Planned Parenthood’s taxpayer funding is ended, that money will be redirected to health care clinics that serve women.


Furthermore, 72 percent of voters agree that “taxpayer dollars would be better spent directed to the more than 13,000 health centers and hospitals providing comprehensive women’s health care.”


We can make sure women have access to health care without using taxpayer dollars to fund an organization responsible for around one out of every three abortions in the United States. "
What Miss Tenn. Got Wrong About Planned Parenthood, Women’s Health

If there are over 13,000 health care centers providing comprehensive women's health care, PP is a duplicate service and can be eliminated altogether. The US has to find duplicate services in all types of services and cut their funding. Fund only when there is a need.

 

[NYcarbineer]

They use the word "fungible" and stand there like a toddler next to the toilet who made his first poo poo admiring their handy work...lol its kind of pathetic...

Seems you'd like to refute the point made, i.e., that every dollar given to Planned Parenthood can be used for abortions.....
...but you are left with nothing by juvenile pap and an attempt to change the subject.

With apologies to Brendan Behan, watching you attempt to counter my post is like watching a Eunuch in a Harem. You want to, but just can’t.

Seems you'd like to refute the point made, i.e., that every dollar given to Planned Parenthood can be used for abortions.....

You said you support the Hyde Ammendment but then say this. You obviously don't understand how it works.

Her 'reasoning' if you can call it that would mean that if a federal employee used her paycheck to pay for an abortion,

then that violated the Hyde Amendment.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Republicans Willing to Take Food From 45 Million People Over Planned Parenthood

Religious fervor may be a mark of excellence from an individual’s perspective, but when a group of religious fanatics take their religious passion to the extreme it is relatively certain that some innocents are going to suffer. Although America was founded as a secular nation and its founding document prohibits Congress from legislating according to religion, a rabid group of religious Republicans are pushing an issue that is going to make over 45 million innocent Americans suffer by taking away their food.

A USDA spokesperson said that

“USDA will not have the funding necessary for SNAP benefits in October and will be forced to stop providing benefits within the first several days of October.”

 

[NYcarbineer]

They actually think that their OCD anti-abortion fanaticism is moral............

Being anti-murder seems to me, a reputable position to take.

"The despicable assault on the helpless, with the aid of the Obama administration, is even more powerful than it has been heretofore. It’s time to take the gloves off and show young women what actually happens to the babies inside them."
Planned Parenthood: Over 333,000 Babies Aborted in 2011 - Breitbart

Murder is a crime...abortion is not ...no matter how hysterical you get no matter if you set your hair on fire while wearing pasties and a G string singing God Bless America ...Abortion is not murder.........

"Murder is a crime...abortion is not ..."

Which one is responsible for the taking of an innocent human life?

You believe that abortion is murder but that women who have abortions are not murderers. Explain that to us.

"Us?"

List the names of those who have endorsed you as their spokesperson.

Then tell ME if that will get you to quit dodging the question you don't dare answer.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Why is PC dodging that question? Because she doesn't really believe abortion is murder,

or she doesn't dare to admit she holds a position so extreme that it relegates her to the farthest fringe of the fringe on abortion.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

What does the law say on funding abortions?

Title X does not allow federal funds to be used for abortions. Medicaid, however, does allow government money to be spent on them — in very restricted cases.

The 1977 Hyde Amendment dictated that federal Medicaid funds could only be used to fund abortions in cases of rape, incest or to protect the life of the mother. However, some states have expanded cases in which they will provide funds. Currently, 17 states allow funds to be used for "medically necessary" abortions. In those cases that these states count as medically necessary but that are not permitted by the federal guidelines, states cover the cost alone.

Fact Check: How Does Planned Parenthood Spend That Government Money?

7. Now.....let me support that statement that nobody needs government supported Planned Parenthood.




"Miss Tennessee, 21-year-old Hannah Robison, helped perpetuate the myth that ending federal funding for Planned Parenthood could hurt women’s access to health care.

[She said:]
I don’t think Planned Parenthood funding should be cut off. The $500 million that gets given to Planned Parenthood every single year goes to female care. It goes for scanning for cancer, it goes for mammograms.

And if we don’t give that funding to Planned Parenthood, those women will be out of health care for reproductive causes.


a. First, as the Media Research Center’s NewsBusters noted, Planned Parenthood doesn’t offer mammograms. “Planned Parenthood spokeswoman Liz Clark confirmed … [that] the organization does not provide mammograms at any of its health centers,”reported PolitiFact Georgia in August.


b. Nor is this a recent development. It’s not just beauty pageant contestants who are confused ...: President Barack Obama said in one of the 2012 presidential debates that “millions of women all across the country … rely on Planned Parenthood … for mammograms.”
[Hard to tell when Obama is lying, or simply wrong.]

When FactCheck.org looked into Obama’s claim, it reported that “Planned Parenthood health centers do not offer mammography.”




8. Robison’s claim that “women will be out of health care for reproductive causes” if Planned Parenthood no longer receives taxpayer dollars is also untrue. In fact, as Alliance Defending Freedom has documented, there are 13,540 health care clinics that could help women. (In contrast, Planned Parenthood has 665 clinics.)

If Planned Parenthood’s taxpayer funding is ended, that money will be redirected to health care clinics that serve women.


Furthermore, 72 percent of voters agree that “taxpayer dollars would be better spent directed to the more than 13,000 health centers and hospitals providing comprehensive women’s health care.”


We can make sure women have access to health care without using taxpayer dollars to fund an organization responsible for around one out of every three abortions in the United States. "
What Miss Tenn. Got Wrong About Planned Parenthood, Women’s Health

If there are over 13,000 health care centers providing comprehensive women's health care, PP is a duplicate service and can be eliminated altogether. The US has to find duplicate services in all types of services and cut their funding. Fund only when there is a need.

One too many "ifs" in that post.

The answer is, they're not up and running but even if they were, its not reasonable to say other sources of health care should be closed.

By your logic, all but one hospital should be closed in major cities.

 

[rightwinger]

What does the law say on funding abortions?

Title X does not allow federal funds to be used for abortions. Medicaid, however, does allow government money to be spent on them — in very restricted cases.

The 1977 Hyde Amendment dictated that federal Medicaid funds could only be used to fund abortions in cases of rape, incest or to protect the life of the mother. However, some states have expanded cases in which they will provide funds. Currently, 17 states allow funds to be used for "medically necessary" abortions. In those cases that these states count as medically necessary but that are not permitted by the federal guidelines, states cover the cost alone.

Fact Check: How Does Planned Parenthood Spend That Government Money?

7. Now.....let me support that statement that nobody needs government supported Planned Parenthood.




"Miss Tennessee, 21-year-old Hannah Robison, helped perpetuate the myth that ending federal funding for Planned Parenthood could hurt women’s access to health care.

[She said:]
I don’t think Planned Parenthood funding should be cut off. The $500 million that gets given to Planned Parenthood every single year goes to female care. It goes for scanning for cancer, it goes for mammograms.

And if we don’t give that funding to Planned Parenthood, those women will be out of health care for reproductive causes.


a. First, as the Media Research Center’s NewsBusters noted, Planned Parenthood doesn’t offer mammograms. “Planned Parenthood spokeswoman Liz Clark confirmed … [that] the organization does not provide mammograms at any of its health centers,”reported PolitiFact Georgia in August.


b. Nor is this a recent development. It’s not just beauty pageant contestants who are confused ...: President Barack Obama said in one of the 2012 presidential debates that “millions of women all across the country … rely on Planned Parenthood … for mammograms.”
[Hard to tell when Obama is lying, or simply wrong.]

When FactCheck.org looked into Obama’s claim, it reported that “Planned Parenthood health centers do not offer mammography.”




8. Robison’s claim that “women will be out of health care for reproductive causes” if Planned Parenthood no longer receives taxpayer dollars is also untrue. In fact, as Alliance Defending Freedom has documented, there are 13,540 health care clinics that could help women. (In contrast, Planned Parenthood has 665 clinics.)

If Planned Parenthood’s taxpayer funding is ended, that money will be redirected to health care clinics that serve women.


Furthermore, 72 percent of voters agree that “taxpayer dollars would be better spent directed to the more than 13,000 health centers and hospitals providing comprehensive women’s health care.”


We can make sure women have access to health care without using taxpayer dollars to fund an organization responsible for around one out of every three abortions in the United States. "
What Miss Tenn. Got Wrong About Planned Parenthood, Women’s Health

If there are over 13,000 health care centers providing comprehensive women's health care, PP is a duplicate service and can be eliminated altogether. The US has to find duplicate services in all types of services and cut their funding. Fund only when there is a need.

Makes no sense

If PP is doing what the others are doing, why should they be singled out?

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Why is PC dodging that question? Because she doesn't really believe abortion is murder,

or she doesn't dare to admit she holds a position so extreme that it relegates her to the farthest fringe of the fringe on abortion.

She always dodges direct questions that relate to her links and/or her own statements.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Which one is responsible for the taking of an innocent human life?

go ahead charge the mother with first degree murder and you will get your answer...

I recognize how truly ignorant you are, but this might help alleviate just a bit....

"Planned Parenthood’s founder, Margaret Sanger, was a strong believer in eugenics. Following is just a sampling of her documented beliefs. “In this matter, the example of the inferior classes, the fertility of the feeble-minded, the mentally defective, the poverty-stricken classes, should not be held up for emulation...”[xix] Referring to immigrants and Catholics, she wrote: “[They’re] an unceasingly spawning class of human beings who never should have been born at all.”[xx] She also wrote, “The most merciful thing that a large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it.”[xxi] Planned Parenthood is carrying on her legacy today, centering itself on population control efforts. In a recently filed tax return, Planned Parenthood stated as part of their mission statement that they are committed to “a U.S. population of stable size in an optimum environment.”[xxii]
Top 12 Reasons to Defund Planned Parenthood Now | SBA-List


[xix] Birth Control Review, "The Eugenic Value of Birth Control Propaganda." October 1921, page 5.

[xx] Margaret Sanger, "Pilot of Civilization," p. 187

[xxi] Margaret Sanger, "Women and the New Race," 1920

[xxii] Planned Parenthood Federation of America, Inc., 2008 Income Tax Return

 

[Hutch Starskey]

No one does.
Well....no one needs government funded slaughter of the unborn.



1. ...it may provide a level of comfort so very important to those without morality, principles, or the proper upbringing....
....what is the element that it provides?
Convenience....
.....The ability to carry on an 'if it feels good, do it' life style with no thought to who is hurt.



2. So...what the motivation for denying it government funding?
The law.

a. "Passed by Congress in 1976, the Hyde Amendment excludes abortion from the comprehensive health care services provided to low-income people by the federal government through Medicaid. "
Public Funding for Abortion


b. "Congress has made some exceptions to the funding ban, which have varied over the years. At present, the federal Medicaid program mandates abortion funding in cases of rape or incest, as well as when a pregnant woman's life is endangered..."
Ibid.





3. Let's deal with the so very overused idea of "cases of rape or incest."
The concept that there are "cases of rape or incest" is a chimera.
They really don't exist.....well, the fact is that 98.5% of abortion don't involve either abhorrent event.
The cases in which abortion is for rape, 1%; and .5% incest. http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/psrh/full/3711005.pdf



4. Well....how about when a pregnant woman's life is endangered? In just 12% of the cases were there 'concerns' for the mother’s health, according to reports. (Ibid.)

The problem here is that there is no objective criterion for "the mother's health." Anyone who can prevail on her doctor to write a note including the word "health" can get in under that clause.
I'm bettin' that the 12% figure is rally more like that of rape or incest.



5. So......what is the reason for extinguishing the life of the incipient human baby in the vast.....vast.....majority of cases?

It is the very element that forms the pillar of Planned Parenthood's raison d'être...convenience.

Liberal governance is all about making it easy to do what one "feels like"....even to the extent of killing an about-to-be human baby.





We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
The Declaration of Independence


Based on the above, from America's founding document, every patriotic American, every conservative, is pro-life.

PP doesn't get federal funds for performing abortions.

PP gets federal funding, there is no way to tell how they use that money. Since their major activity is performing abortions, it is very likely that federal funding has and is paying for abortions. At a minimum there should be an audit and if federal money has been used for abortions, PP should be prosecuted and totally defunded.

There is. It's called accounting.

Explained for you in post #122.

Not explained. Suggested.

How do you imagine that any organization is required to show compliance with the Hyde amendment?

 

[PoliticalChic]

What does the law say on funding abortions?

Title X does not allow federal funds to be used for abortions. Medicaid, however, does allow government money to be spent on them — in very restricted cases.

The 1977 Hyde Amendment dictated that federal Medicaid funds could only be used to fund abortions in cases of rape, incest or to protect the life of the mother. However, some states have expanded cases in which they will provide funds. Currently, 17 states allow funds to be used for "medically necessary" abortions. In those cases that these states count as medically necessary but that are not permitted by the federal guidelines, states cover the cost alone.

Fact Check: How Does Planned Parenthood Spend That Government Money?

7. Now.....let me support that statement that nobody needs government supported Planned Parenthood.




"Miss Tennessee, 21-year-old Hannah Robison, helped perpetuate the myth that ending federal funding for Planned Parenthood could hurt women’s access to health care.

[She said:]
I don’t think Planned Parenthood funding should be cut off. The $500 million that gets given to Planned Parenthood every single year goes to female care. It goes for scanning for cancer, it goes for mammograms.

And if we don’t give that funding to Planned Parenthood, those women will be out of health care for reproductive causes.


a. First, as the Media Research Center’s NewsBusters noted, Planned Parenthood doesn’t offer mammograms. “Planned Parenthood spokeswoman Liz Clark confirmed … [that] the organization does not provide mammograms at any of its health centers,”reported PolitiFact Georgia in August.


b. Nor is this a recent development. It’s not just beauty pageant contestants who are confused ...: President Barack Obama said in one of the 2012 presidential debates that “millions of women all across the country … rely on Planned Parenthood … for mammograms.”
[Hard to tell when Obama is lying, or simply wrong.]

When FactCheck.org looked into Obama’s claim, it reported that “Planned Parenthood health centers do not offer mammography.”




8. Robison’s claim that “women will be out of health care for reproductive causes” if Planned Parenthood no longer receives taxpayer dollars is also untrue. In fact, as Alliance Defending Freedom has documented, there are 13,540 health care clinics that could help women. (In contrast, Planned Parenthood has 665 clinics.)

If Planned Parenthood’s taxpayer funding is ended, that money will be redirected to health care clinics that serve women.


Furthermore, 72 percent of voters agree that “taxpayer dollars would be better spent directed to the more than 13,000 health centers and hospitals providing comprehensive women’s health care.”


We can make sure women have access to health care without using taxpayer dollars to fund an organization responsible for around one out of every three abortions in the United States. "
What Miss Tenn. Got Wrong About Planned Parenthood, Women’s Health

If there are over 13,000 health care centers providing comprehensive women's health care, PP is a duplicate service and can be eliminated altogether. The US has to find duplicate services in all types of services and cut their funding. Fund only when there is a need.

Makes no sense

If PP is doing what the others are doing, why should they be singled out?

Because others aren't receiving federal funds to kill innocent human being.

I suggest that a more accurate avi for you would be, as per your post, "NoSense."

 

[Luddly Neddite]

What does the law say on funding abortions?

Title X does not allow federal funds to be used for abortions. Medicaid, however, does allow government money to be spent on them — in very restricted cases.

The 1977 Hyde Amendment dictated that federal Medicaid funds could only be used to fund abortions in cases of rape, incest or to protect the life of the mother. However, some states have expanded cases in which they will provide funds. Currently, 17 states allow funds to be used for "medically necessary" abortions. In those cases that these states count as medically necessary but that are not permitted by the federal guidelines, states cover the cost alone.

Fact Check: How Does Planned Parenthood Spend That Government Money?

7. Now.....let me support that statement that nobody needs government supported Planned Parenthood.




"Miss Tennessee, 21-year-old Hannah Robison, helped perpetuate the myth that ending federal funding for Planned Parenthood could hurt women’s access to health care.

[She said:]
I don’t think Planned Parenthood funding should be cut off. The $500 million that gets given to Planned Parenthood every single year goes to female care. It goes for scanning for cancer, it goes for mammograms.

And if we don’t give that funding to Planned Parenthood, those women will be out of health care for reproductive causes.


a. First, as the Media Research Center’s NewsBusters noted, Planned Parenthood doesn’t offer mammograms. “Planned Parenthood spokeswoman Liz Clark confirmed … [that] the organization does not provide mammograms at any of its health centers,”reported PolitiFact Georgia in August.


b. Nor is this a recent development. It’s not just beauty pageant contestants who are confused ...: President Barack Obama said in one of the 2012 presidential debates that “millions of women all across the country … rely on Planned Parenthood … for mammograms.”
[Hard to tell when Obama is lying, or simply wrong.]

When FactCheck.org looked into Obama’s claim, it reported that “Planned Parenthood health centers do not offer mammography.”




8. Robison’s claim that “women will be out of health care for reproductive causes” if Planned Parenthood no longer receives taxpayer dollars is also untrue. In fact, as Alliance Defending Freedom has documented, there are 13,540 health care clinics that could help women. (In contrast, Planned Parenthood has 665 clinics.)

If Planned Parenthood’s taxpayer funding is ended, that money will be redirected to health care clinics that serve women.


Furthermore, 72 percent of voters agree that “taxpayer dollars would be better spent directed to the more than 13,000 health centers and hospitals providing comprehensive women’s health care.”


We can make sure women have access to health care without using taxpayer dollars to fund an organization responsible for around one out of every three abortions in the United States. "
What Miss Tenn. Got Wrong About Planned Parenthood, Women’s Health

If there are over 13,000 health care centers providing comprehensive women's health care, PP is a duplicate service and can be eliminated altogether. The US has to find duplicate services in all types of services and cut their funding. Fund only when there is a need.

Makes no sense

If PP is doing what the others are doing, why should they be singled out?

When will the RWs demand that hospitals stop donating, for a fee, fetal tissue to research labs around the country?

Defunding PP will not stop even one abortion and the right knows it. This is an attack on poor women. Period.

 

[PoliticalChic]

No one does.
Well....no one needs government funded slaughter of the unborn.



1. ...it may provide a level of comfort so very important to those without morality, principles, or the proper upbringing....
....what is the element that it provides?
Convenience....
.....The ability to carry on an 'if it feels good, do it' life style with no thought to who is hurt.



2. So...what the motivation for denying it government funding?
The law.

a. "Passed by Congress in 1976, the Hyde Amendment excludes abortion from the comprehensive health care services provided to low-income people by the federal government through Medicaid. "
Public Funding for Abortion


b. "Congress has made some exceptions to the funding ban, which have varied over the years. At present, the federal Medicaid program mandates abortion funding in cases of rape or incest, as well as when a pregnant woman's life is endangered..."
Ibid.





3. Let's deal with the so very overused idea of "cases of rape or incest."
The concept that there are "cases of rape or incest" is a chimera.
They really don't exist.....well, the fact is that 98.5% of abortion don't involve either abhorrent event.
The cases in which abortion is for rape, 1%; and .5% incest. http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/psrh/full/3711005.pdf



4. Well....how about when a pregnant woman's life is endangered? In just 12% of the cases were there 'concerns' for the mother’s health, according to reports. (Ibid.)

The problem here is that there is no objective criterion for "the mother's health." Anyone who can prevail on her doctor to write a note including the word "health" can get in under that clause.
I'm bettin' that the 12% figure is rally more like that of rape or incest.



5. So......what is the reason for extinguishing the life of the incipient human baby in the vast.....vast.....majority of cases?

It is the very element that forms the pillar of Planned Parenthood's raison d'être...convenience.

Liberal governance is all about making it easy to do what one "feels like"....even to the extent of killing an about-to-be human baby.





We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
The Declaration of Independence


Based on the above, from America's founding document, every patriotic American, every conservative, is pro-life.

PP doesn't get federal funds for performing abortions.

PP gets federal funding, there is no way to tell how they use that money. Since their major activity is performing abortions, it is very likely that federal funding has and is paying for abortions. At a minimum there should be an audit and if federal money has been used for abortions, PP should be prosecuted and totally defunded.

There is. It's called accounting.

Explained for you in post #122.

Not explained. Suggested.

How do you imagine that any organization is required to show compliance with the Hyde amendment?

Either no abortions, or no federal funds.

Simple enough for you?

 

[Luddly Neddite]

What does the law say on funding abortions?

Title X does not allow federal funds to be used for abortions. Medicaid, however, does allow government money to be spent on them — in very restricted cases.

The 1977 Hyde Amendment dictated that federal Medicaid funds could only be used to fund abortions in cases of rape, incest or to protect the life of the mother. However, some states have expanded cases in which they will provide funds. Currently, 17 states allow funds to be used for "medically necessary" abortions. In those cases that these states count as medically necessary but that are not permitted by the federal guidelines, states cover the cost alone.

Fact Check: How Does Planned Parenthood Spend That Government Money?

7. Now.....let me support that statement that nobody needs government supported Planned Parenthood.




"Miss Tennessee, 21-year-old Hannah Robison, helped perpetuate the myth that ending federal funding for Planned Parenthood could hurt women’s access to health care.

[She said:]
I don’t think Planned Parenthood funding should be cut off. The $500 million that gets given to Planned Parenthood every single year goes to female care. It goes for scanning for cancer, it goes for mammograms.

And if we don’t give that funding to Planned Parenthood, those women will be out of health care for reproductive causes.


a. First, as the Media Research Center’s NewsBusters noted, Planned Parenthood doesn’t offer mammograms. “Planned Parenthood spokeswoman Liz Clark confirmed … [that] the organization does not provide mammograms at any of its health centers,”reported PolitiFact Georgia in August.


b. Nor is this a recent development. It’s not just beauty pageant contestants who are confused ...: President Barack Obama said in one of the 2012 presidential debates that “millions of women all across the country … rely on Planned Parenthood … for mammograms.”
[Hard to tell when Obama is lying, or simply wrong.]

When FactCheck.org looked into Obama’s claim, it reported that “Planned Parenthood health centers do not offer mammography.”




8. Robison’s claim that “women will be out of health care for reproductive causes” if Planned Parenthood no longer receives taxpayer dollars is also untrue. In fact, as Alliance Defending Freedom has documented, there are 13,540 health care clinics that could help women. (In contrast, Planned Parenthood has 665 clinics.)

If Planned Parenthood’s taxpayer funding is ended, that money will be redirected to health care clinics that serve women.


Furthermore, 72 percent of voters agree that “taxpayer dollars would be better spent directed to the more than 13,000 health centers and hospitals providing comprehensive women’s health care.”


We can make sure women have access to health care without using taxpayer dollars to fund an organization responsible for around one out of every three abortions in the United States. "
What Miss Tenn. Got Wrong About Planned Parenthood, Women’s Health

If there are over 13,000 health care centers providing comprehensive women's health care, PP is a duplicate service and can be eliminated altogether. The US has to find duplicate services in all types of services and cut their funding. Fund only when there is a need.

Makes no sense

If PP is doing what the others are doing, why should they be singled out?

Because others aren't receiving federal funds to kill innocent human being.

I suggest that a more accurate avi for you would be, as per your post, "NoSense."

Wrong again.

Start with NIH and CDC.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Why is PC dodging that question? Because she doesn't really believe abortion is murder,

or she doesn't dare to admit she holds a position so extreme that it relegates her to the farthest fringe of the fringe on abortion.

She always dodges direct questions that relate to her links and/or her own statements.

She doesn't know what debate is.

 

[PoliticalChic]

What does the law say on funding abortions?

Title X does not allow federal funds to be used for abortions. Medicaid, however, does allow government money to be spent on them — in very restricted cases.

The 1977 Hyde Amendment dictated that federal Medicaid funds could only be used to fund abortions in cases of rape, incest or to protect the life of the mother. However, some states have expanded cases in which they will provide funds. Currently, 17 states allow funds to be used for "medically necessary" abortions. In those cases that these states count as medically necessary but that are not permitted by the federal guidelines, states cover the cost alone.

Fact Check: How Does Planned Parenthood Spend That Government Money?

7. Now.....let me support that statement that nobody needs government supported Planned Parenthood.




"Miss Tennessee, 21-year-old Hannah Robison, helped perpetuate the myth that ending federal funding for Planned Parenthood could hurt women’s access to health care.

[She said:]
I don’t think Planned Parenthood funding should be cut off. The $500 million that gets given to Planned Parenthood every single year goes to female care. It goes for scanning for cancer, it goes for mammograms.

And if we don’t give that funding to Planned Parenthood, those women will be out of health care for reproductive causes.


a. First, as the Media Research Center’s NewsBusters noted, Planned Parenthood doesn’t offer mammograms. “Planned Parenthood spokeswoman Liz Clark confirmed … [that] the organization does not provide mammograms at any of its health centers,”reported PolitiFact Georgia in August.


b. Nor is this a recent development. It’s not just beauty pageant contestants who are confused ...: President Barack Obama said in one of the 2012 presidential debates that “millions of women all across the country … rely on Planned Parenthood … for mammograms.”
[Hard to tell when Obama is lying, or simply wrong.]

When FactCheck.org looked into Obama’s claim, it reported that “Planned Parenthood health centers do not offer mammography.”




8. Robison’s claim that “women will be out of health care for reproductive causes” if Planned Parenthood no longer receives taxpayer dollars is also untrue. In fact, as Alliance Defending Freedom has documented, there are 13,540 health care clinics that could help women. (In contrast, Planned Parenthood has 665 clinics.)

If Planned Parenthood’s taxpayer funding is ended, that money will be redirected to health care clinics that serve women.


Furthermore, 72 percent of voters agree that “taxpayer dollars would be better spent directed to the more than 13,000 health centers and hospitals providing comprehensive women’s health care.”


We can make sure women have access to health care without using taxpayer dollars to fund an organization responsible for around one out of every three abortions in the United States. "
What Miss Tenn. Got Wrong About Planned Parenthood, Women’s Health

If there are over 13,000 health care centers providing comprehensive women's health care, PP is a duplicate service and can be eliminated altogether. The US has to find duplicate services in all types of services and cut their funding. Fund only when there is a need.

Makes no sense

If PP is doing what the others are doing, why should they be singled out?

When will the RWs demand that hospitals stop donating, for a fee, fetal tissue to research labs around the country?

Defunding PP will not stop even one abortion and the right knows it. This is an attack on poor women. Period.

Why don't you begin a new thread on that topic.

I may decide to add pertinent thoughts there, too.

 

[Jackson]

For someone who is so fond of the pen, Obama could have kept the government open and running if he would have signed the bill. The bill was wntered into by the representatives of the people. Again, he denied the will of the people.

 

[NYcarbineer]

PP doesn't get federal funds for performing abortions.

PP gets federal funding, there is no way to tell how they use that money. Since their major activity is performing abortions, it is very likely that federal funding has and is paying for abortions. At a minimum there should be an audit and if federal money has been used for abortions, PP should be prosecuted and totally defunded.

There is. It's called accounting.

Explained for you in post #122.

Not explained. Suggested.

How do you imagine that any organization is required to show compliance with the Hyde amendment?

Either no abortions, or no federal funds.

Simple enough for you?

That is not what the Hyde Amendment requires. The Hyde Amendment covers only federal funds. PP does not use federal funds for abortion.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

What does the law say on funding abortions?

Title X does not allow federal funds to be used for abortions. Medicaid, however, does allow government money to be spent on them — in very restricted cases.

The 1977 Hyde Amendment dictated that federal Medicaid funds could only be used to fund abortions in cases of rape, incest or to protect the life of the mother. However, some states have expanded cases in which they will provide funds. Currently, 17 states allow funds to be used for "medically necessary" abortions. In those cases that these states count as medically necessary but that are not permitted by the federal guidelines, states cover the cost alone.

Fact Check: How Does Planned Parenthood Spend That Government Money?

7. Now.....let me support that statement that nobody needs government supported Planned Parenthood.




"Miss Tennessee, 21-year-old Hannah Robison, helped perpetuate the myth that ending federal funding for Planned Parenthood could hurt women’s access to health care.

[She said:]
I don’t think Planned Parenthood funding should be cut off. The $500 million that gets given to Planned Parenthood every single year goes to female care. It goes for scanning for cancer, it goes for mammograms.

And if we don’t give that funding to Planned Parenthood, those women will be out of health care for reproductive causes.


a. First, as the Media Research Center’s NewsBusters noted, Planned Parenthood doesn’t offer mammograms. “Planned Parenthood spokeswoman Liz Clark confirmed … [that] the organization does not provide mammograms at any of its health centers,”reported PolitiFact Georgia in August.


b. Nor is this a recent development. It’s not just beauty pageant contestants who are confused ...: President Barack Obama said in one of the 2012 presidential debates that “millions of women all across the country … rely on Planned Parenthood … for mammograms.”
[Hard to tell when Obama is lying, or simply wrong.]

When FactCheck.org looked into Obama’s claim, it reported that “Planned Parenthood health centers do not offer mammography.”




8. Robison’s claim that “women will be out of health care for reproductive causes” if Planned Parenthood no longer receives taxpayer dollars is also untrue. In fact, as Alliance Defending Freedom has documented, there are 13,540 health care clinics that could help women. (In contrast, Planned Parenthood has 665 clinics.)

If Planned Parenthood’s taxpayer funding is ended, that money will be redirected to health care clinics that serve women.


Furthermore, 72 percent of voters agree that “taxpayer dollars would be better spent directed to the more than 13,000 health centers and hospitals providing comprehensive women’s health care.”


We can make sure women have access to health care without using taxpayer dollars to fund an organization responsible for around one out of every three abortions in the United States. "
What Miss Tenn. Got Wrong About Planned Parenthood, Women’s Health

If there are over 13,000 health care centers providing comprehensive women's health care, PP is a duplicate service and can be eliminated altogether. The US has to find duplicate services in all types of services and cut their funding. Fund only when there is a need.

PP would not exist if there weren't a need for their services.