Who Needs Planned Parenthood??

[NYcarbineer]

The GOP has no interest in banning abortion. They know it's not going to happen, for starters.

The GOP is desperately clinging onto what few special interest groups are stupid enough to support them, and pandering to the anti-choice extremists is just one part of that strategy.

nice recitation of a dem talking point. its totally wrong, but you did accurately repeat it like a good little mindless parrot.

When is abortion going to be banned?

realistically probably never. But it should be very limited. Rape, incest, or the life of the mother. Not as a form of birth control or a way to reduce the black birth rate.

which requires sex education, birth control and services to women like education and job training and daycare AFTER the child is born.

all things the radical right hates.

Wouldn't you say that not knowing of the Hyde amendment speaks directly to your lack of education?

The Hyde Amendment has been around for decades and so has Planned Parenthood and PP funding.

Get in touch with reality.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

War is murder though and almost all the Poltroons who claim to be moral because they oppose abortion support any god damn war the Government says we must fight...

 

[PoliticalChic]

No one does.
Well....no one needs government funded slaughter of the unborn.



1. ...it may provide a level of comfort so very important to those without morality, principles, or the proper upbringing....
....what is the element that it provides?
Convenience....
.....The ability to carry on an 'if it feels good, do it' life style with no thought to who is hurt.



2. So...what the motivation for denying it government funding?
The law.

a. "Passed by Congress in 1976, the Hyde Amendment excludes abortion from the comprehensive health care services provided to low-income people by the federal government through Medicaid. "
Public Funding for Abortion


b. "Congress has made some exceptions to the funding ban, which have varied over the years. At present, the federal Medicaid program mandates abortion funding in cases of rape or incest, as well as when a pregnant woman's life is endangered..."
Ibid.





3. Let's deal with the so very overused idea of "cases of rape or incest."
The concept that there are "cases of rape or incest" is a chimera.
They really don't exist.....well, the fact is that 98.5% of abortion don't involve either abhorrent event.
The cases in which abortion is for rape, 1%; and .5% incest. http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/psrh/full/3711005.pdf



4. Well....how about when a pregnant woman's life is endangered? In just 12% of the cases were there 'concerns' for the mother’s health, according to reports. (Ibid.)

The problem here is that there is no objective criterion for "the mother's health." Anyone who can prevail on her doctor to write a note including the word "health" can get in under that clause.
I'm bettin' that the 12% figure is rally more like that of rape or incest.



5. So......what is the reason for extinguishing the life of the incipient human baby in the vast.....vast.....majority of cases?

It is the very element that forms the pillar of Planned Parenthood's raison d'être...convenience.

Liberal governance is all about making it easy to do what one "feels like"....even to the extent of killing an about-to-be human baby.





We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
The Declaration of Independence


Based on the above, from America's founding document, every patriotic American, every conservative, is pro-life.

PP doesn't get federal funds for performing abortions.

And herein we have the sort of lie that you've become famous for.
(Ooops! Ended the sentence with a preposition!!)

The taxpayer money given to Planned Parenthood is fungible....able to replace or be replaced by another identical item; mutually interchangeable.

It can be used for any purpose....including abortions.

And it is used for exactly that.

Simply wrong.

The only thing "wrong" is your post.

All of mine are proven and documented.

 

[NYcarbineer]

No one does.
Well....no one needs government funded slaughter of the unborn.



1. ...it may provide a level of comfort so very important to those without morality, principles, or the proper upbringing....
....what is the element that it provides?
Convenience....
.....The ability to carry on an 'if it feels good, do it' life style with no thought to who is hurt.



2. So...what the motivation for denying it government funding?
The law.

a. "Passed by Congress in 1976, the Hyde Amendment excludes abortion from the comprehensive health care services provided to low-income people by the federal government through Medicaid. "
Public Funding for Abortion


b. "Congress has made some exceptions to the funding ban, which have varied over the years. At present, the federal Medicaid program mandates abortion funding in cases of rape or incest, as well as when a pregnant woman's life is endangered..."
Ibid.





3. Let's deal with the so very overused idea of "cases of rape or incest."
The concept that there are "cases of rape or incest" is a chimera.
They really don't exist.....well, the fact is that 98.5% of abortion don't involve either abhorrent event.
The cases in which abortion is for rape, 1%; and .5% incest. http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/psrh/full/3711005.pdf



4. Well....how about when a pregnant woman's life is endangered? In just 12% of the cases were there 'concerns' for the mother’s health, according to reports. (Ibid.)

The problem here is that there is no objective criterion for "the mother's health." Anyone who can prevail on her doctor to write a note including the word "health" can get in under that clause.
I'm bettin' that the 12% figure is rally more like that of rape or incest.



5. So......what is the reason for extinguishing the life of the incipient human baby in the vast.....vast.....majority of cases?

It is the very element that forms the pillar of Planned Parenthood's raison d'être...convenience.

Liberal governance is all about making it easy to do what one "feels like"....even to the extent of killing an about-to-be human baby.





We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
The Declaration of Independence


Based on the above, from America's founding document, every patriotic American, every conservative, is pro-life.

Great when someone with her money and private doctors thinks women should be divested of their means to receive affordable care. but why would that matter to you?

planned parenthood provides
4.5 million tests and treatment for sexually transmitted infections
3.6 million contraception related services
935,573 cancer screenings including breast exams and Pap tests
1.1 million pregnancy tests and prenatal services

Planned Parenthood’s Services

"slaughter of the unborn"... yes, how dare women utilize their constitutionally protected rights.

now tell us again how much you know about our laws.

Clearly more than you do.....have you ever heard of the Hyde amendment?

Planned Parenthood complies with the Hyde Amendment. It has neither reason nor need not to.

then they should welcome an audit. Have they opened their books? We may find out today since the CEO of PP is testifying before congress.

Why would they use federal funds for abortions when most of their money comes from non-federal government sources?

 

[PoliticalChic]

when you provide a link for your 3% claim I wll provide one for mine.

I have credibility, you don't.

Now thats funny. You get the award for funniest post of the day.

But you can recover, provide proof of your claim that PP only spends 3% of its money on abortions. You said it, its up to you to prove it.

or you could just admit that you lied.

The first unsupported claim in this exchange, if we're going to play this game, was yours:

.'Since their major activity is performing abortions, it is very likely that federal funding has and is paying for abortions. '

Prove that.

I proved it earlier.
I gave the definition of term you never knew before, "fungible."


Again?

Sure....

fun·gi·ble
ˈfənjəbəl/
adjective
LAW

1. (of goods contracted for without an individual specimen being specified) able to replace or be replaced by another identical item; mutually interchangeable.
   "money is fungible—money that is raised for one purpose can easily be used for another" Google

Every penny of the $528 million taxpayer dollars given to Planned Parenthood can be used for abortions, their most profitable endeavor.


Every penny.

If your misuse of 'fungible' wasn't exactly that, a misuse, then PP could have been defunded long ago. You might want to stay out of depths you can't swim in.

Wrong again.

Liberals/Democrats vote for evil on a regular basis...and have prevented said defunding.

 

[rightwinger]

I can understand your attempt to change the direction of the thread, as your position is untenable.

To remind all......the question is whether or not federal funding should go to this savage institution, Planned Parenthood.

I vote no.

About 60% of Americans vote 'yes'. You lose the referendum if you want to play that game.

"Furthermore, 72 percent of voters agree that “taxpayer dollars would be better spent directed to the more than 13,000 health centers and hospitals providing comprehensive women’s health care.”


We can make sure women have access to health carewithout using taxpayer dollars to fund an organization responsible for around one out of every three abortions in the United States."
What Miss Tenn. Got Wrong About Planned Parenthood, Women’s Health

Poll: By 2-1, funding for Planned Parenthood supported

Looks like the Conservative witch hunt against Planned Parenthood is not working

Looks like the liberal push to destroy millions of black children is working.

Abortion is an individual choice that is left up to the mother

 

[NYcarbineer]

No one does.
Well....no one needs government funded slaughter of the unborn.



1. ...it may provide a level of comfort so very important to those without morality, principles, or the proper upbringing....
....what is the element that it provides?
Convenience....
.....The ability to carry on an 'if it feels good, do it' life style with no thought to who is hurt.



2. So...what the motivation for denying it government funding?
The law.

a. "Passed by Congress in 1976, the Hyde Amendment excludes abortion from the comprehensive health care services provided to low-income people by the federal government through Medicaid. "
Public Funding for Abortion


b. "Congress has made some exceptions to the funding ban, which have varied over the years. At present, the federal Medicaid program mandates abortion funding in cases of rape or incest, as well as when a pregnant woman's life is endangered..."
Ibid.





3. Let's deal with the so very overused idea of "cases of rape or incest."
The concept that there are "cases of rape or incest" is a chimera.
They really don't exist.....well, the fact is that 98.5% of abortion don't involve either abhorrent event.
The cases in which abortion is for rape, 1%; and .5% incest. http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/psrh/full/3711005.pdf



4. Well....how about when a pregnant woman's life is endangered? In just 12% of the cases were there 'concerns' for the mother’s health, according to reports. (Ibid.)

The problem here is that there is no objective criterion for "the mother's health." Anyone who can prevail on her doctor to write a note including the word "health" can get in under that clause.
I'm bettin' that the 12% figure is rally more like that of rape or incest.



5. So......what is the reason for extinguishing the life of the incipient human baby in the vast.....vast.....majority of cases?

It is the very element that forms the pillar of Planned Parenthood's raison d'être...convenience.

Liberal governance is all about making it easy to do what one "feels like"....even to the extent of killing an about-to-be human baby.





We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
The Declaration of Independence


Based on the above, from America's founding document, every patriotic American, every conservative, is pro-life.

PP doesn't get federal funds for performing abortions.

And herein we have the sort of lie that you've become famous for.
(Ooops! Ended the sentence with a preposition!!)

The taxpayer money given to Planned Parenthood is fungible....able to replace or be replaced by another identical item; mutually interchangeable.

It can be used for any purpose....including abortions.

And it is used for exactly that.

Simply wrong.

The only thing "wrong" is your post.

All of mine are proven and documented.

No they aren't. You're delusional. So-called 'fungibility' would only apply if PP was paying for abortions above and beyond its non-federal government funding sources,

which it is not. PP never NEEDS to use federal funding for the small portion of its operations that are abortion services.

 

[PoliticalChic]

No one does.
Well....no one needs government funded slaughter of the unborn.



1. ...it may provide a level of comfort so very important to those without morality, principles, or the proper upbringing....
....what is the element that it provides?
Convenience....
.....The ability to carry on an 'if it feels good, do it' life style with no thought to who is hurt.



2. So...what the motivation for denying it government funding?
The law.

a. "Passed by Congress in 1976, the Hyde Amendment excludes abortion from the comprehensive health care services provided to low-income people by the federal government through Medicaid. "
Public Funding for Abortion


b. "Congress has made some exceptions to the funding ban, which have varied over the years. At present, the federal Medicaid program mandates abortion funding in cases of rape or incest, as well as when a pregnant woman's life is endangered..."
Ibid.





3. Let's deal with the so very overused idea of "cases of rape or incest."
The concept that there are "cases of rape or incest" is a chimera.
They really don't exist.....well, the fact is that 98.5% of abortion don't involve either abhorrent event.
The cases in which abortion is for rape, 1%; and .5% incest. http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/psrh/full/3711005.pdf



4. Well....how about when a pregnant woman's life is endangered? In just 12% of the cases were there 'concerns' for the mother’s health, according to reports. (Ibid.)

The problem here is that there is no objective criterion for "the mother's health." Anyone who can prevail on her doctor to write a note including the word "health" can get in under that clause.
I'm bettin' that the 12% figure is rally more like that of rape or incest.



5. So......what is the reason for extinguishing the life of the incipient human baby in the vast.....vast.....majority of cases?

It is the very element that forms the pillar of Planned Parenthood's raison d'être...convenience.

Liberal governance is all about making it easy to do what one "feels like"....even to the extent of killing an about-to-be human baby.





We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
The Declaration of Independence


Based on the above, from America's founding document, every patriotic American, every conservative, is pro-life.

PP doesn't get federal funds for performing abortions.

PP gets federal funding, there is no way to tell how they use that money. Since their major activity is performing abortions, it is very likely that federal funding has and is paying for abortions. At a minimum there should be an audit and if federal money has been used for abortions, PP should be prosecuted and totally defunded.

There is. It's called accounting.

Explained for you in post #122.

 

[NYcarbineer]

I have credibility, you don't.

Now thats funny. You get the award for funniest post of the day.

But you can recover, provide proof of your claim that PP only spends 3% of its money on abortions. You said it, its up to you to prove it.

or you could just admit that you lied.

The first unsupported claim in this exchange, if we're going to play this game, was yours:

.'Since their major activity is performing abortions, it is very likely that federal funding has and is paying for abortions. '

Prove that.

I proved it earlier.
I gave the definition of term you never knew before, "fungible."


Again?

Sure....

fun·gi·ble
ˈfənjəbəl/
adjective
LAW

1. (of goods contracted for without an individual specimen being specified) able to replace or be replaced by another identical item; mutually interchangeable.
   "money is fungible—money that is raised for one purpose can easily be used for another" Google

Every penny of the $528 million taxpayer dollars given to Planned Parenthood can be used for abortions, their most profitable endeavor.


Every penny.

If your misuse of 'fungible' wasn't exactly that, a misuse, then PP could have been defunded long ago. You might want to stay out of depths you can't swim in.

Wrong again.

Liberals/Democrats vote for evil on a regular basis...and have prevented said defunding.

Republicans had a majority in the House from 1995 to 2007, and have currently had the majority since 2011.

I'm not even surprised you didn't know that.

 

[PoliticalChic]

About 60% of Americans vote 'yes'. You lose the referendum if you want to play that game.

"Furthermore, 72 percent of voters agree that “taxpayer dollars would be better spent directed to the more than 13,000 health centers and hospitals providing comprehensive women’s health care.”


We can make sure women have access to health carewithout using taxpayer dollars to fund an organization responsible for around one out of every three abortions in the United States."
What Miss Tenn. Got Wrong About Planned Parenthood, Women’s Health

Poll: By 2-1, funding for Planned Parenthood supported

Looks like the Conservative witch hunt against Planned Parenthood is not working

Looks like the liberal push to destroy millions of black children is working.

Abortion is an individual choice that is left up to the mother

1. Why?

Why should she have the right to take a human life?

2. Barack Obama goes so far as to endorse the killing up to a month after the child is born.

Agree with that too?

 

[Hutch Starskey]

No one does.
Well....no one needs government funded slaughter of the unborn.



1. ...it may provide a level of comfort so very important to those without morality, principles, or the proper upbringing....
....what is the element that it provides?
Convenience....
.....The ability to carry on an 'if it feels good, do it' life style with no thought to who is hurt.



2. So...what the motivation for denying it government funding?
The law.

a. "Passed by Congress in 1976, the Hyde Amendment excludes abortion from the comprehensive health care services provided to low-income people by the federal government through Medicaid. "
Public Funding for Abortion


b. "Congress has made some exceptions to the funding ban, which have varied over the years. At present, the federal Medicaid program mandates abortion funding in cases of rape or incest, as well as when a pregnant woman's life is endangered..."
Ibid.





3. Let's deal with the so very overused idea of "cases of rape or incest."
The concept that there are "cases of rape or incest" is a chimera.
They really don't exist.....well, the fact is that 98.5% of abortion don't involve either abhorrent event.
The cases in which abortion is for rape, 1%; and .5% incest. http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/psrh/full/3711005.pdf



4. Well....how about when a pregnant woman's life is endangered? In just 12% of the cases were there 'concerns' for the mother’s health, according to reports. (Ibid.)

The problem here is that there is no objective criterion for "the mother's health." Anyone who can prevail on her doctor to write a note including the word "health" can get in under that clause.
I'm bettin' that the 12% figure is rally more like that of rape or incest.



5. So......what is the reason for extinguishing the life of the incipient human baby in the vast.....vast.....majority of cases?

It is the very element that forms the pillar of Planned Parenthood's raison d'être...convenience.

Liberal governance is all about making it easy to do what one "feels like"....even to the extent of killing an about-to-be human baby.





We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
The Declaration of Independence


Based on the above, from America's founding document, every patriotic American, every conservative, is pro-life.

PP doesn't get federal funds for performing abortions.

PP gets federal funding, there is no way to tell how they use that money. Since their major activity is performing abortions, it is very likely that federal funding has and is paying for abortions. At a minimum there should be an audit and if federal money has been used for abortions, PP should be prosecuted and totally defunded.

There is. It's called accounting.

The CEO of PP is in front of congress today. Lets see whether she can justify the "accounting".

You should definitely watch. You might just learn something.

 

[PoliticalChic]

No one does.
Well....no one needs government funded slaughter of the unborn.



1. ...it may provide a level of comfort so very important to those without morality, principles, or the proper upbringing....
....what is the element that it provides?
Convenience....
.....The ability to carry on an 'if it feels good, do it' life style with no thought to who is hurt.



2. So...what the motivation for denying it government funding?
The law.

a. "Passed by Congress in 1976, the Hyde Amendment excludes abortion from the comprehensive health care services provided to low-income people by the federal government through Medicaid. "
Public Funding for Abortion


b. "Congress has made some exceptions to the funding ban, which have varied over the years. At present, the federal Medicaid program mandates abortion funding in cases of rape or incest, as well as when a pregnant woman's life is endangered..."
Ibid.





3. Let's deal with the so very overused idea of "cases of rape or incest."
The concept that there are "cases of rape or incest" is a chimera.
They really don't exist.....well, the fact is that 98.5% of abortion don't involve either abhorrent event.
The cases in which abortion is for rape, 1%; and .5% incest. http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/psrh/full/3711005.pdf



4. Well....how about when a pregnant woman's life is endangered? In just 12% of the cases were there 'concerns' for the mother’s health, according to reports. (Ibid.)

The problem here is that there is no objective criterion for "the mother's health." Anyone who can prevail on her doctor to write a note including the word "health" can get in under that clause.
I'm bettin' that the 12% figure is rally more like that of rape or incest.



5. So......what is the reason for extinguishing the life of the incipient human baby in the vast.....vast.....majority of cases?

It is the very element that forms the pillar of Planned Parenthood's raison d'être...convenience.

Liberal governance is all about making it easy to do what one "feels like"....even to the extent of killing an about-to-be human baby.





We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
The Declaration of Independence


Based on the above, from America's founding document, every patriotic American, every conservative, is pro-life.

PP doesn't get federal funds for performing abortions.

And herein we have the sort of lie that you've become famous for.
(Ooops! Ended the sentence with a preposition!!)

The taxpayer money given to Planned Parenthood is fungible....able to replace or be replaced by another identical item; mutually interchangeable.

It can be used for any purpose....including abortions.

And it is used for exactly that.

Simply wrong.

The only thing "wrong" is your post.

All of mine are proven and documented.

No they aren't. You're delusional. So-called 'fungibility' would only apply if PP was paying for abortions above and beyond its non-federal government funding sources,

which it is not. PP never NEEDS to use federal funding for the small portion of its operations that are abortion services.

"....if PP was paying for abortions above and beyond its non-federal government funding sources,..."

Good to see you admit that abortions are paid for with federal funds.
This, or course, is against the law.

 

[PoliticalChic]

No one does.
Well....no one needs government funded slaughter of the unborn.



1. ...it may provide a level of comfort so very important to those without morality, principles, or the proper upbringing....
....what is the element that it provides?
Convenience....
.....The ability to carry on an 'if it feels good, do it' life style with no thought to who is hurt.



2. So...what the motivation for denying it government funding?
The law.

a. "Passed by Congress in 1976, the Hyde Amendment excludes abortion from the comprehensive health care services provided to low-income people by the federal government through Medicaid. "
Public Funding for Abortion


b. "Congress has made some exceptions to the funding ban, which have varied over the years. At present, the federal Medicaid program mandates abortion funding in cases of rape or incest, as well as when a pregnant woman's life is endangered..."
Ibid.





3. Let's deal with the so very overused idea of "cases of rape or incest."
The concept that there are "cases of rape or incest" is a chimera.
They really don't exist.....well, the fact is that 98.5% of abortion don't involve either abhorrent event.
The cases in which abortion is for rape, 1%; and .5% incest. http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/psrh/full/3711005.pdf



4. Well....how about when a pregnant woman's life is endangered? In just 12% of the cases were there 'concerns' for the mother’s health, according to reports. (Ibid.)

The problem here is that there is no objective criterion for "the mother's health." Anyone who can prevail on her doctor to write a note including the word "health" can get in under that clause.
I'm bettin' that the 12% figure is rally more like that of rape or incest.



5. So......what is the reason for extinguishing the life of the incipient human baby in the vast.....vast.....majority of cases?

It is the very element that forms the pillar of Planned Parenthood's raison d'être...convenience.

Liberal governance is all about making it easy to do what one "feels like"....even to the extent of killing an about-to-be human baby.





We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
The Declaration of Independence


Based on the above, from America's founding document, every patriotic American, every conservative, is pro-life.

Great when someone with her money and private doctors thinks women should be divested of their means to receive affordable care. but why would that matter to you?

planned parenthood provides
4.5 million tests and treatment for sexually transmitted infections
3.6 million contraception related services
935,573 cancer screenings including breast exams and Pap tests
1.1 million pregnancy tests and prenatal services

Planned Parenthood’s Services

"slaughter of the unborn"... yes, how dare women utilize their constitutionally protected rights.

now tell us again how much you know about our laws.

Clearly more than you do.....have you ever heard of the Hyde amendment?

Planned Parenthood complies with the Hyde Amendment. It has neither reason nor need not to.

A lie.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

War costs human lives but you do not ever ever for any reason see these Poltroons for God oppose war...they put all their moral eggs in the anti abortion basket..then the poltroons shred the social safety net ...support outlandish expenditures on weapons by the US and oppose any program that may provide support for life...essentially these are scummy pretenders to being moral...they suck

 

[Hutch Starskey]

They use the word "fungible" and stand there like a toddler next to the toilet who made his first poo poo admiring their handy work...lol its kind of pathetic...

Seems you'd like to refute the point made, i.e., that every dollar given to Planned Parenthood can be used for abortions.....
...but you are left with nothing by juvenile pap and an attempt to change the subject.

With apologies to Brendan Behan, watching you attempt to counter my post is like watching a Eunuch in a Harem. You want to, but just can’t.

Seems you'd like to refute the point made, i.e., that every dollar given to Planned Parenthood can be used for abortions.....

You said you support the Hyde Amendment but then say this. You obviously don't understand how it works.

 

[PoliticalChic]

They actually think that their OCD anti-abortion fanaticism is moral............

Being anti-murder seems to me, a reputable position to take.

"The despicable assault on the helpless, with the aid of the Obama administration, is even more powerful than it has been heretofore. It’s time to take the gloves off and show young women what actually happens to the babies inside them."
Planned Parenthood: Over 333,000 Babies Aborted in 2011 - Breitbart

Murder is a crime...abortion is not ...no matter how hysterical you get no matter if you set your hair on fire while wearing pasties and a G string singing God Bless America ...Abortion is not murder.........

"Murder is a crime...abortion is not ..."

Which one is responsible for the taking of an innocent human life?

 

[NYcarbineer]

They actually think that their OCD anti-abortion fanaticism is moral............

Being anti-murder seems to me, a reputable position to take.

"The despicable assault on the helpless, with the aid of the Obama administration, is even more powerful than it has been heretofore. It’s time to take the gloves off and show young women what actually happens to the babies inside them."
Planned Parenthood: Over 333,000 Babies Aborted in 2011 - Breitbart

Murder is a crime...abortion is not ...no matter how hysterical you get no matter if you set your hair on fire while wearing pasties and a G string singing God Bless America ...Abortion is not murder.........

"Murder is a crime...abortion is not ..."

Which one is responsible for the taking of an innocent human life?

You believe that abortion is murder but that women who have abortions are not murderers. Explain that to us.

 

[NYcarbineer]

No one does.
Well....no one needs government funded slaughter of the unborn.



1. ...it may provide a level of comfort so very important to those without morality, principles, or the proper upbringing....
....what is the element that it provides?
Convenience....
.....The ability to carry on an 'if it feels good, do it' life style with no thought to who is hurt.



2. So...what the motivation for denying it government funding?
The law.

a. "Passed by Congress in 1976, the Hyde Amendment excludes abortion from the comprehensive health care services provided to low-income people by the federal government through Medicaid. "
Public Funding for Abortion


b. "Congress has made some exceptions to the funding ban, which have varied over the years. At present, the federal Medicaid program mandates abortion funding in cases of rape or incest, as well as when a pregnant woman's life is endangered..."
Ibid.





3. Let's deal with the so very overused idea of "cases of rape or incest."
The concept that there are "cases of rape or incest" is a chimera.
They really don't exist.....well, the fact is that 98.5% of abortion don't involve either abhorrent event.
The cases in which abortion is for rape, 1%; and .5% incest. http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/psrh/full/3711005.pdf



4. Well....how about when a pregnant woman's life is endangered? In just 12% of the cases were there 'concerns' for the mother’s health, according to reports. (Ibid.)

The problem here is that there is no objective criterion for "the mother's health." Anyone who can prevail on her doctor to write a note including the word "health" can get in under that clause.
I'm bettin' that the 12% figure is rally more like that of rape or incest.



5. So......what is the reason for extinguishing the life of the incipient human baby in the vast.....vast.....majority of cases?

It is the very element that forms the pillar of Planned Parenthood's raison d'être...convenience.

Liberal governance is all about making it easy to do what one "feels like"....even to the extent of killing an about-to-be human baby.





We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
The Declaration of Independence


Based on the above, from America's founding document, every patriotic American, every conservative, is pro-life.

Great when someone with her money and private doctors thinks women should be divested of their means to receive affordable care. but why would that matter to you?

planned parenthood provides
4.5 million tests and treatment for sexually transmitted infections
3.6 million contraception related services
935,573 cancer screenings including breast exams and Pap tests
1.1 million pregnancy tests and prenatal services

Planned Parenthood’s Services

"slaughter of the unborn"... yes, how dare women utilize their constitutionally protected rights.

now tell us again how much you know about our laws.

Clearly more than you do.....have you ever heard of the Hyde amendment?

Planned Parenthood complies with the Hyde Amendment. It has neither reason nor need not to.

A lie.

Prove it.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Which one is responsible for the taking of an innocent human life?

go ahead charge the mother with first degree murder and you will get your answer...