Who thinks 9/11 was an inside Job?

[KittenKoder]

He was certainly not talking about 9-11 conspiracy nuts ...

 

[eots]

He was certainly not talking about 9-11 conspiracy nuts ...

really...and how do you know that fluff for brains ...it was not long before his death and i can post other clips ..but not comedy sketches where he says he would not be surprised at all to find out the government was involved in 911 ..so have some respect and stop speaking for the man..

 

[KittenKoder]

He was certainly not talking about 9-11 conspiracy nuts ...

really...and how do you know that fluff for brains ...it was not long before his death and i can post other clips ..but not comedy sketches where he says he would not be surprised at all to find out the government was involved in 911 ..so have some respect and stop speaking for the man..

No, the problem I have with conspiracy nuts is the same as those who jumped on the "blame Bin Laden" bandwagon, you let the real parties to blame get away and now all the evidence remaining is tainted by too much political hand waving. However, at least those who jumped on the "blame Laden" band wagon did it out of anger for a real enemy instead of trying to blame our own.

PS: That's what Carlin was referring to.

 

[eots]

the perpetrators are elements within our own government...

 

[KittenKoder]

the perpetrators are elements within our own government...

There you go, baseless accusation that has only succeeded in allowing the truly guilty party of avoiding the law.

 

[eots]

no far from baseless I like these fine gentlemen did not come to this conclusion lightly and without arguing over it I can assure you



Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report

 

[eots]

no far from baseless I like these fine gentlemen did not come to this conclusion lightly and without anguishing over it I can assure you



Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report

 

[Mr. Jones]

9-11 was an inside job. The US government had a hand in it and the cover up. Not the entire government, but a rogue and powerful element within it. That is my belief and that of many many people.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Eventually Terral when you debate Big D long enough you'll figure out he is a disinfo agent.He isnt an idiot moron in denial like these Bush dupes.We know that because like you said,he talks nonsense all the time.He'll pretend like he has questions about learning about 9/11 and all but when you explain it all to him and give him the answers,he'll just ask the same questions later on over and over again after you already answered them and ignore facts when you point out to him things like the reason we know explosives brought the towers down is witnesses heard and saw explosions going off in the basement seconds before the plane struck above and you can show him the pics of windows being blown out below before the tower has even collapsed and as you just noticed,he always comes up with some kind of nonsense to post the way dis info agents do.It was easy to figure out for me he wasnt just a mere idiot in denial like divecon,elvis,toro or retired gi sargent but instead o disinfo agent in the fact that unlike those guys who just come back with name calling when they cant counter your points and your videos and run off,he just comes back with all kinds of nonsense and garbage.He really isnt worth the trouble.watch what kind of nonsense he'll come up with when i explain in my next post how they were able to do it without anybody noticing.you'll see

the clandestent government op cant take care of a elevator inspection policy...lol


oh my god did he really say that? that they cant take care of that? I love it,thats priceless.LOl further evidence of how ignorant he is about CIA operations.lol



people dont have to be in on it to be minpulated...especialy...elevator inspectors...lol

something the Bush dupes always ignore is that criminal Marvin Bush and his cousin Wirt Walker were in charge of the security towers for the towers in the year leading up to 9/11They obviously used CIA ops disguised as elevater inspectors.I dont bother with him anymore because I posted many times before for him how congress discovered in the
1970's that they discovered through documents in the freedom of information act that the CIA has operative plants everywhere in major organizations.Their in mainstream media newspapers such as The LA TIMES,New york times,post offices,they penetrate activists groups such as gay rights,animal rights,they got plants EVERYWHERE.they sure as hell arent going to have any problem getting them in the towers disguised as elevater inspectors and workmen.especially with Daddy Bush being a former CIA director.this guy kills me.I love it.



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the first responders said they found...nothing...nothing...bigger than a match book..everything..pulverised....if wires survived or where even used..what about all the miles of other wires that would run through the trade centers and the equipment within
this is a stupid argument....




FYI, I emailed former senator Mark Dayton asking if he believe 9/11 was an inside job an this is the response I received:
I do not believe that the United States government "attacked itself" or our country on September 11, 2001. I believe that was the work of Al Qaeda terrorists, as extensively documented by the 911 Commission.

I hope I answered your question. Thanks for contacting me!

If you want me to forward it to you, I'll be happy to do so.

Lastly, you informed me beforehand there was a London times article stating that Guiliani was the first to make a 911 call on the day of the attacks. After stating that it wasnt on their website you said it was modified but my local library should have a copy of it. Well, I went to library and thought I would try it out while I was there. I only found a couple articles that had his name on the dates you gave me and neither one stated what you said

Robert Baer – Former CIA Case Officer, Specialist in the Middle East, Directorate of Operations. Awarded Career Intelligence Medal. 21-year CIA veteran. Best-selling author, screenwriter, and actor. Academy Award-winning Syriana was based on Baer's memoir See No Evil. Writer and on-camera presenter for Emmy Award-nominated documentary Cult of the Suicide Bomber. Author of two nonfiction books about CIA operations, See No Evil (2002) and Sleeping with the Devil (2004) and the novel Blow the House Down (2007).

Article FBI Documents Contradict 9/11 Commission Report 2/28/08:

"There are enough discrepancies and unanswered questions in the 9/11 Commission Report that under a friendly administration, the 9/11 investigation should be re-opened." The Raw Story | Investigative News and Politics


Audio Interview Thom Hartmann Show 6/9/06:

Thom Hartmann: Are you of the opinion there was an aspect of 'inside job' to 9/11 within the U.S. government?

Robert Baer: There is that possibility, the evidence points at it.

Thom Hartmann: And why is it not being investigated?

Robert Baer: Why isn't the WMD story being investigated? Why hasn't anybody been held accountable for 9/11? We held people accountable after Pearl Harbor. Why has there been no change in command? Why have there been no political repercussions? Why has there been no -- any sort of exposure on this? It really makes you wonder. http://www.911blog.



Bogdan Dzakovic – Witness before the 9/11 Commission. 14-year Counter-terrorism expert in the Security Division of the Federal Aviation Administration. Team Leader of the FAA's Red (Terrorism) Team, which conducted undercover tests on airport security through simulated terrorist attacks. Former Team Leader in the Federal Air Marshal program. Former Coast Guard officer.

Video transcript 8/21/05 : Regarding the 9/11 Commission "The best I could say about it is they really botched the job by not really going into the real failures. … At worst, I think the 9/11 Commission Report is treasonous." 911report.com - 911 report Resources and Information. This website is for sale!




Letter to Congress regarding the 9/11 Commission Report 9/13/04, signed by the following 25 military, intelligence, and law enforcement veterans: National Security Whistleblowers Coalition


"[W]e the undersigned wish to bring to the attention of the Congress and the people of the United States what we believe are serious shortcomings in the report and its recommendations. …

Omission is one of the major flaws in the Commission’s report. We are aware of significant issues and cases that were duly reported to the commission by those of us with direct knowledge, but somehow escaped attention. …

The omission of such serious and applicable issues and information by itself renders the report flawed, and casts doubt on the validity of many of its recommendations. ...

The Commission, with its incomplete report of "facts and circumstances", intentional avoidance of assigning accountability, and disregard for the knowledge, expertise and experience of those who actually do the job, has now set about pressuring our Congress and our nation to hastily implement all its recommendations. ...

We the undersigned, who have worked within various government agencies (FBI, CIA, FAA, DIA, Customs) responsible for national security and public safety, call upon you in Congress to include the voices of those with first-hand knowledge and expertise in the important issues at hand. We stand ready to do our part." National Security Whistleblowers Coalition


Edward J. Costello, Jr. – Former Special Agent, Counterterrorism, FBI. Former Judge pro tem., Los Angeles, CA.


John M. Cole – Former Intelligence Operations Specialist, in the FBI’s Counterintelligence Division. In charge of FBI’s foreign intelligence investigations covering India, Pakistan and Afghanistan. 18-year FBI career.


Mark Conrad, JD – Retired Agent in Charge, Internal Affairs, U.S. Customs, responsible for the internal integrity and security for areas encompassing nine states and two foreign locations. Former Federal Sky Marshall. 27-year U.S. Customs career. Currently Associate General Counsel, National Association of Federal Agents. Assistant Professor of Criminal Justice at Troy University.


Rosemary N. Dew – Former Supervisory Special Agent, Counterterrorism and Counterintelligence, FBI. Former member of The President's National Security Telecommunications Advisory Committee (NSTAC) and the Electronic Commerce/Cyber Crime Working Group. 13-year FBI career.


Bogdan Dzakovic – Witness before the 9/11 Commission. 14-year Counter-terrorism expert in the Security Division of the Federal Aviation Administration. Team Leader of the FAA's Red (Terrorism) Team, which conducted undercover tests on airport security through simulated terrorist attacks. Former Team Leader in the Federal Air Marshal program. Former Coast Guard officer. (See also individual statement above.)


Sibel D. Edmonds – Witness before the 9/11 Commission. Former Language Translation Specialist, performing translations for counterterrorism and counterintelligence operations, FBI. (See also individual statement above.)


Steve Elson – Former Special Agent with the U.S. Navy and the FAA. Specialist in Counterterrorism, Intelligence, and Security. Twenty-two years military experience, primarily in Naval Special Warfare and nine years Federal service with the FAA and DEA. Retired Navy SEAL. (See also individual statement above.)


David Forbes – Former head of Thames Valley Police Fraud Squad, trained at New Scotland Yard. Over 30 years experience in law enforcement, commercial and industrial security-related risk management, and service sector business management. Currently Aviation, Logistics and Govt. Security Analyst, BoydForbes, Inc.


Melvin A. Goodman – Former Division Chief and Senior Analyst at the Office of Soviet Affairs, CIA,1966 - 1990. Senior Analyst at the Bureau of Intelligence and Research, State Department, 1974 - 1976. Professor of International Security at the National War College 1986 - 2004. Currently Senior Fellow at the Center for International Policy and Adjunct Professor of International Relations at Johns Hopkins University. He is the author and co-author of five books on international relations. (See also individual statement above.)


Mark Graf – Former Security Supervisor, Planner, and Derivative Classifier, Department of Energy. Former Chairman of the Rocky Flats (DOE) Physical Security Systems Working Group from 1990 through 1995.


Gilbert M. Graham – Retired Special Agent, Counterintelligence, FBI. 24-year FBI career.


Diane Kleiman – Former Special Agent, US Customs.


Lt. Col. Karen U. Kwiatkowski, PhD, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Former Political-Military Affairs Officer in the Office of the Secretary of Defense. Also served on the staff of the Director of the National Security Agency. 20-year Air Force veteran. (See also individual statement above.)


Lynne A. Larkin – Former CIA Operations Officer. Served in several CIA foreign stations and in the CIA's counter-intelligence center helping chair a multi-agency task force and seminars on coordinating intelligence among intelligence and crime prevention agencies.


David MacMichael, PhD – Former Senior Estimates Officer with special responsibility for Western Hemisphere Affairs at the CIA's National Intelligence Council. Former Captain, U.S. Marine Corps.


Raymond L. McGovern – Former Chairman, National Intelligence Estimates, CIA, responsible for preparing the President’ Daily Brief (PDB) for Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush. 27-year CIA veteran. Former U.S. Army Intelligence Officer. (See also individual statement above.)


Theodore J. Pahle – Former Senior Intelligence Officer with the Defense Intelligence Agency. His 37-year intelligence career was exclusively as a HUMINT (Human Intelligence) operations officer with DIA, Office of Naval Intelligence and U.S. Army Intelligence. He is a Middle East and Latin American operations specialist. Today, he continues to support the HUMINT effort as a contract instructor.


Behrooz Sarshar – Retired Language Translation Specialist, performing Farsi translations for counterterrorism and counterintelligence operations dealing with Iran and Afghanistan, FBI.


Brian F. Sullivan – Retired Special Agent and Risk Management Specialist, FAA. Retired Lieutenant Colonel, Military Police.


Commander Larry J. Tortorich, U.S. Navy (ret) – Former Deputy Program Manager for Logistics – Tomahawk Cruise Missiles. 24-year Navy career in the fields of aviation and counterterrorism. Two years as a federal employee with DHS/TSA in the fields of security and counterterrorism.


Jane A. Turner – Retired Special Agent, FBI. 24-year FBI career.


John B. Vincent – Retired Special Agent, Counterterrorism, FBI. 27-year FBI career.


Fred Whitehurst, JD, PhD – Retired Supervisory Special Agent / Laboratory Forensic Examiner, FBI. 16-year FBI career. Former U.S. Army Intelligence Officer.


Col. Ann Wright, U.S. Army (ret) – Retired Army officer and former U.S. Diplomat. Served 13 years on active duty with the U.S. Army and 16 years in the U.S. Army Reserves. She was a member of the International law team in Operation Urgent Fury in Grenada and served in Panama and Somalia. She joined the Foreign Service in 1987 and served as Deputy Chief of Mission of U.S. Embassies in Sierra Leone, Micronesia and Afghanistan. She helped reopen the US Embassy in Kabul in December, 2001. One of three U.S. State Department officials to publicly resign in direct protest of the invasion of Iraq in March, 2003. (See also individual statement above.)


Matthew J. Zipoli – Special Response Team (SRT) Officer, DOE. Vice President, Security Police Officer's Association, Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory

Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report

 

[LA RAM FAN]

yeah that picture of that ape divecon is hilarious.poor little divecon is so afraid of the truth about government conspiracys like 9/11 and the kenendy assassination,that he wont even watch the videos that prove it cause he keeps his head buried in the sand.even if you post it where he went and CONFESSED he doesnt watch our videos to try and debunk them,he STILL cant admit he is afraid of the truth.how sad that is.

why is that funny?
hes done it about a hundred times
it might have been funny the FIRST time
after that it becomes pathetic
i dont wantch you stupid fucking videos NOW asshole
because i've wasted too much time on your bullshit in the past
you have ZERO credibility

as opposed to the 911 ommission and popular mechanics.....I think its a hoot how divecon
discredits military experts..and first responders in favour of a pulp magazine

thats the divecon logic for you.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

have you guys seen this one ?

Missing Links

at one point they say the Popular Mechanics article was written by the cousin of Chertoff or whoever was at the DHS at the time

i thought that was awesome

in any case i read the offical analysis of collapse and it was assumption upon assumption and pulling numbers out of the ass on every page just to make it seem plausible that a building would suddenly implode all by itself

i explained how they manipulated their formulas to produce a desired result on the Arstechnica forum and was instantly banned

yeah thats why it cracks me up how these morons worship popular mechanics as the ultimate truth. Chertoffs cousin who was the main oversear of that article,HIM being in charge of popular mechanics and saying they had independent people investigate the disaster,thats like believing Hitler saying the police investigated gas chamber camps and found none.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

your a joke...Mr popular mechanics.. that is where all your links and info boil down to,,you are foolish and disingenuous..clearly,,your interest ls only in trying to perpetrate the 911 myth not deal with reality or proper protocol that should be expected and demanded ...spin...thats all it is thinly veiled spin

your just NOW figuring that out Eots?I been telling you that he is obviously a dis info agent.I been saying all along how he blatently ignores facts and posts disinformation mixed in with some truths.thats the way dis information agents operate,thats why I strongly urge you to not bother with him anymore.make him look like a fool by continuning to respond to you like he does with me and address you and propagate his lies.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

your a joke...Mr popular mechanics.. that is where all your links and info boil down to,,you are foolish and disingenuous..clearly,,your interest ls only in trying to perpetrate the 911 myth not deal with reality or proper protocol that should be expected and demanded ...spin...thats all it is thinly veiled spin

I cannot remember the last time I quoted popular mechanics. It hasnt been for months. It is foolish to think that you can place demolition in an elevator and cause a 110 story building to crumble. So you think I am being disingenuous? Wouldnt you think from all the information you gave me that if I thought it was an inside job, then I would debate along side you?

Take me up on my challenge. Get ten people to admit they were involved and you will receive your second investigation by the govt.

officialy an IDIOT...

thats the understatement of the year.funny that no matter how many times his lies are proven wrong and no matter how many times people point out his nonsense and ramblings,the dis info agent trys to pretend he doesnt know 9/11 was an inside job.

 

[LanceofBeowulf]

SealyBobo sez:

We know Bush has been family friends with the Bin Ladin's since the 70's.
We know that Bin Ladin's were flown out of the country on 9-12, not one of them was interviewed or questioned. \
We know Cheney had control of NORAD on 9-11? No VP ever controlled NORAD.
We know Condi lied about prior warnings.
We know PNAC said they would need another Pearl Harbor type incident to launch their campaign.
We know the BUsh team stonewalled the 9-11 truth commission, and it is flawed/incomplete/inaccurate.
We know that Bush had Bin Ladin in the Tora Bora mountains and let him get away.
And we know Bush lied about Saddam being involved.
We know plenty.[/QUOTE]

Very good, SealyBobo. I see light at the end of a long, dark tunnel.

 

[eots]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phKiT2-94XU]YouTube - The most dangerous 911 video ever!!!!![/ame]

 

[eots]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phKiT2-94XU]YouTube - The most dangerous 911 video ever!!!!![/ame]

 

[neurosport]

YouTube - George Carlin - Conspiracy Theorists

wow, spot on 100% on all counts !

and especially MAD RESPECT to Carlin for saying that bloodshed is the only answer.

WOW !

i have been banned for suggesting it several times. the SYSTEM is setup in a way such that you are not allowed under any circumstances to suggest a solution ( bloodshed ) to the problem ( the system itself ) ...

but he said it. RESPECT.

Malcolm X is the other guy who had this part right.

 

[Toro]

The conspiracists have yet to produce any credible evidence that the Bush administration had anything to do with 9/11. All "evidence" is circumstantial and conspiracies are merely theoretical.

 

[Big_D]

oh my god did he really say that? that they cant take care of that? I love it,thats priceless.LOl further evidence of how ignorant he is about CIA operations.lol

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This point is really so stupid it doesn't even warrant arguing. If you are so disillusional that you believe you can demolish a building by placing explosives in an elevator shaft then there is no hope for you whatsoever. BTW, I emailed a demolition companies and they agree that that statement is absurd. You cannot bring down a building by placing explosives in the elevator shafts. Even though I know you wont respond, please inform me what would happen when an elevator inspector would arrive for a surprise inspection. If they were told not to inspect it then why havent we heard anything from them? Or inform me how no maintenance employee entered into the elevator shafts? I hate to brake the news to you, but I know maintenance workers and this is part of their job. They have to check everything in these shafts to make sure everything is in order. So what are you saying that the maintenance workers just didnt notice the explosives in there?

your just NOW figuring that out Eots?I been telling you that he is obviously a dis info agent.I been saying all along how he blatently ignores facts and posts disinformation mixed in with some truths.thats the way dis information agents operate,thats why I strongly urge you to not bother with him anymore.make him look like a fool by continuning to respond to you like he does with me and address you and propagate his lies.

Coming from you this really isnt worth responding. But, i must say you all are actually right! You got me. I have been working for the govt all along and your tax dollars go to me having this debate with you online! Funny how you say I ignore facts when you think 40% of the nation agrees with you when I proved this wrong time and time again and you still believe this. Even people on your side can admit this but you cannot. You also have ignored many items I have said over the months and then pretended to have refuted everything I have stated. Keep responding this is fun!

 

[eots]

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