who was best president of usa ?

[whitehall]

How do you judge a great president? By the hype or how great the Nation became under his leadership? If he hadn't been assassinated Lincoln might have gone down as one of the worse presidents in history but media hype created a legend. Ditto JFK. The polished Harvard politician was one of the worst presidents in history but the media loved him and created a legend. How well did the Nation do under FDR's leadership? A soup line depression for his first two terms and a surprise attack and a war for his next two terms. The media loved him though and created a legend.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

SHAME ON AMERCIA
NO WOMAN PRESIDENT.
american are anti woman

Give us a few months

Carly is not trending well and Hillary will be dressed in an orange jumpsuit by then.

 

[JoeB131]

Germany and Japan felt their best option was to declare war on America. And countries only attack weaker nations. Weaker thanks to FDR.

Round n round ya go.....

Are you some kind of retard where you think repeating the same thing over and over again after it has been debunked by people who know better is a good strategy.

Is your helmet adjusted properly when you hit your head against the wall, Corky?

 

[JoeB131]

How do you judge a great president? By the hype or how great the Nation became under his leadership? If he hadn't been assassinated Lincoln might have gone down as one of the worse presidents in history but media hype created a legend. Ditto JFK. The polished Harvard politician was one of the worst presidents in history but the media loved him and created a legend. How well did the Nation do under FDR's leadership? A soup line depression for his first two terms and a surprise attack and a war for his next two terms. The media loved him though and created a legend.

Winning the Civil War pretty much puts LIncoln down as one of the greats. It's hard to imagine him fucking up reconstruction as badly as Andrew Johnson did.

I do think JFK was overrated as a president.

As for FDR. The thing is, he got re-elected THREE TIMES. The GOP was so upset they had to change the rules to keep anyone else from doing that.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Abraham Lincoln

Franklin D. Roosevelt

jfk

barak obama

None of the above, The best was Calvin Coolidge, silent Cal got the country out of a sharp, deep recession and into the roaring twenties, first President to come out for civil rights for African-Americans, granted citizenship to Native Americans and was wise enough to stay the hell out of the way of the lives of American Citizens and keep us out of foreign conflicts.

Well need another President like him.

Because of him, the Roaring 20s was roaring. He was a true conservative and had such a limited government that it infuriated the liberals. Public education wont even come close to teaching children about this great president, for they(NFTA and NEA) wouldn't want American Citizens to be self reliant.
Calvin Coolidge: Best President Ever

Calvin Coolidge: Best President Ever

Liberals will disagree but then this article explains why.

Liberals have a mental disorder, says doctor

A veteran psychiatrist now claims that liberalism is a mental disorder, not purely a political choice.

"Based on strikingly irrational beliefs and emotions, modern liberals relentlessly undermine the most important principles on which our freedoms were founded," said Dr. Lyle Rossiter, author of the new book, The Liberal Mind: The Psychological Causes of Political Madness.

"Like spoiled, angry children, they rebel against the normal responsibilities of adulthood and demand that a parental government meet their needs from cradle to grave."

Understand this, and you know why liberals do what they do.

 

[Kondor3]

The greatest American President, to date?

Abraham Lincoln.

Nolo contendere.

A man of the People, who rode a tidal wave of anti-establishment, Unionist, anti-slavery sentiment, all the way to the White House...

A fellow who pleaded with the Errant Sisters to come back into the Family, who grieved over their recalcitrance, and who only put on his War Hat when fired upon...

A motivator and leader of men who oversaw the first-ever National War Effort, who made a thousand mistakes along the way, and who admitted and grieved over them...

A fellow who slowly - albeit opportunistically - changed his approach to the long-standing problem of Slavery, to effect a sea change throughout the nation and related lawmaking...

A commander-in-chief who felt great pain over the massive casualties inflicted by the War but who steeled himself to see it through in as quick a way as circumstances permitted...

A family man with a half-lunatic wife, who lost a beloved son while in office, and who kept soldiering-on and guiding the nation, despite the agony of such circumstances...

A brilliant and skillful politician who twisted arms and made deals while maintaining a modicum of grace and ethical standards while navigating the cesspool of Washington...

A firm hand at the wheel of the Nation who may have wavered in his conviction that it was possible to reunite the country but who never lost sight of or let go of that goal...

A wise and compassionate visionary who understood people and who knew that '...with malice towards none and charity towards all...' was the best way to heal the Nation...

Bottom line: the President who preserved the Union, and gave us a future as a People.

Not bad, for a fallible mortal.

 

[Conservative65]

The greatest American President, to date?

Abraham Lincoln.

Nolo contendere.

A man of the People, who rode a tidal wave of anti-establishment, Unionist, anti-slavery sentiment, all the way to the White House...

A fellow who pleaded with the Errant Sisters to come back into the Family, who grieved over their recalcitrance, and who only put on his War Hat when fired upon...

A motivator and leader of men who oversaw the first-ever National War Effort, who made a thousand mistakes along the way, and who admitted and grieved over them...

A fellow who slowly - albeit opportunistically - changed his approach to the long-standing problem of Slavery, to effect a sea change throughout the nation and related lawmaking...

A commander-in-chief who felt great pain over the massive casualties inflicted by the War but who steeled himself to see it through in as quick a way as circumstances permitted...

A family man with a half-lunatic wife, who lost a beloved son while in office, and who kept soldiering-on and guiding the nation, despite the agony of such circumstances...

A brilliant and skillful politician who twisted arms and made deals while maintaining a modicum of grace and ethical standards while navigating the cesspool of Washington...

A firm hand at the wheel of the Nation who may have wavered in his conviction that it was possible to reunite the country but who never lost sight of or let go of that goal...

A wise and compassionate visionary who understood people and who knew that '...with malice towards none and charity towards all...' was the best way to heal the Nation...

Bottom line: the President who preserved the Union, and gave us a future as a People.

Not bad, for a fallible mortal.

He, much like Obama, did what he did for political expediency.

 

[Kondor3]

...He, much like Obama, did what he did for political expediency.

If that were true, then, it would have been far more 'expedient' to simply let The South go its own way, rather than trying to preserve the Union.

Ol' Honest Abe was Da Bomb, compared to some of the bottom-feeders we've seen before and since.

 

[Conservative65]

...He, much like Obama, did what he did for political expediency.

If that were true, then, it would have been far more 'expedient' to simply let The South go its own way, rather than trying to preserve the Union.

Ol' Honest Abe was Da Bomb, compared to some of the bottom-feeders we've seen before and since.

It would have better. Far less lives lost.

Bottom feeders: FDR, LBJ, Carter, Obama

 

[JoeB131]

Because of him, the Roaring 20s was roaring. He was a true conservative and had such a limited government that it infuriated the liberals. Public education wont even come close to teaching children about this great president, for they(NFTA and NEA) wouldn't want American Citizens to be self reliant.
Calvin Coolidge: Best President Ever

Because he was an awful president, who didn't pay attention to how the crooks on Wall Street were about to run the economy over the cliff. SO his unregulated banks essentially lost everyone's money and caused a world-wide Depression.

There's a reason there are no Aircraft Carriers or anything of note named after Calvin Coolidge.

Or why after the economy crashed under Hoover (who was left holding the bag), the GOP didn't get back into the White HOuse for 20 years and even then, only after Ike admitted, "Yeah, Coolidge and Hoover really fucked it up, let's not do that again."

ON that segue, the best GOP President of the last century was - Dwight D. Eisenhower. He was the one who recognized that there was things government should do, while ratcheting back some of the places it overextended itself during WWII and Korea.

But you'll never see a Republican embracing Eisenhower. They'll embrace this imaginary version of Ronald Reagan who was a confused old man yelling at a wall.

 

[Conservative65]

Because of him, the Roaring 20s was roaring. He was a true conservative and had such a limited government that it infuriated the liberals. Public education wont even come close to teaching children about this great president, for they(NFTA and NEA) wouldn't want American Citizens to be self reliant.
Calvin Coolidge: Best President Ever

Because he was an awful president, who didn't pay attention to how the crooks on Wall Street were about to run the economy over the cliff. SO his unregulated banks essentially lost everyone's money and caused a world-wide Depression.

There's a reason there are no Aircraft Carriers or anything of note named after Calvin Coolidge.

Or why after the economy crashed under Hoover (who was left holding the bag), the GOP didn't get back into the White HOuse for 20 years and even then, only after Ike admitted, "Yeah, Coolidge and Hoover really fucked it up, let's not do that again."

ON that segue, the best GOP President of the last century was - Dwight D. Eisenhower. He was the one who recognized that there was things government should do, while ratcheting back some of the places it overextended itself during WWII and Korea.

But you'll never see a Republican embracing Eisenhower. They'll embrace this imaginary version of Ronald Reagan who was a confused old man yelling at a wall.

We had wobble legs promising everyone everything and creating the mindset that it's the government's job to take care of you if something bad happens in your life. Freeloaders like that kind of thing and will vote for it.

 

[healthmyths]

None of the choices had a MSM bias that directly affected policies.
NONE of the choices had Congress members make statements about our military as these traitors did!

Senator Obama(D) .."troops are air-raiding villages and killing civilians,"
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid(D) "War is lost",
U.S. Rep. Murtha(D) "Our troops killed innocent civilians in cold blood,”
Senator Kerry(D) "American soldiers going into the homes of Iraqis in the dead of night, terrorizing kids and children."

When these statements were heard by the terrorists they cheered!
For terrorists it was perfect recruiting just as Obama said..“I cannot think of a more potent recruitment tool for ISIL than some of the rhetoric coming out of here in the course of this debate,
President Obama Says GOP Acting As Recruitment Tool For ISIS | RedState

And who was there on a daily basis repeating statements like these and more ? The MSM! The same people that donated millions to the Democrat party.

 

[Two Thumbs]

1. Abraham Lincoln his election led to the Civil war
2. Franklin D. Rooseveltwas the most evil person to sit in the WH, a glance at his cruelty would make that clear
3. jfkgot us involved with VN
4. barak obamagood lord, he's so bad that this has to be a joke

 

[Two Thumbs]

Washington

everything he did became tradition. Traditions that were honored until fdr and obama.

That should tell you something.

 

[JoeB131]

We had wobble legs promising everyone everything and creating the mindset that it's the government's job to take care of you if something bad happens in your life. Freeloaders like that kind of thing and will vote for it.

What's the alternative your side offers? "I've got mine, fuck you?"

Except your guys can't say that openly, because no one would vote for that.

Which is why your side quietly supports middle class entitlements like Medicare and Social Security and Unemployment while denouncing "Welfare Queens". (When in fact, those middle class benefit make up far more of what government spends.)

Then to totally distract stupid people like you from noticing your good paying job is going to China or being replaced by a machine, they talk about guns or abortions or gays or the War on Christmas to play on your racial, religious or sexual fears.

NOw, since you have been totally conditioned not to notice this, please proceed with an angry rant about how you will shoot anyone who tries to take your guns.

 

[Conservative65]

We had wobble legs promising everyone everything and creating the mindset that it's the government's job to take care of you if something bad happens in your life. Freeloaders like that kind of thing and will vote for it.

What's the alternative your side offers? "I've got mine, fuck you?"

Except your guys can't say that openly, because no one would vote for that.

Which is why your side quietly supports middle class entitlements like Medicare and Social Security and Unemployment while denouncing "Welfare Queens". (When in fact, those middle class benefit make up far more of what government spends.)

Then to totally distract stupid people like you from noticing your good paying job is going to China or being replaced by a machine, they talk about guns or abortions or gays or the War on Christmas to play on your racial, religious or sexual fears.

NOw, since you have been totally conditioned not to notice this, please proceed with an angry rant about how you will shoot anyone who tries to take your guns.

You have it wrong. It's I earned mine, quit demanding you have yours handed to you and earn it.

Are you equating Social Security with social welfare programs? You'd be a fool if you did.

My good paying job didn't go to China. I'm sorry that what you offer is so little that an uneducated person in China can do it. The rest of us aren't in that situation.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Because of him, the Roaring 20s was roaring. He was a true conservative and had such a limited government that it infuriated the liberals. Public education wont even come close to teaching children about this great president, for they(NFTA and NEA) wouldn't want American Citizens to be self reliant.
Calvin Coolidge: Best President Ever

Because he was an awful president, who didn't pay attention to how the crooks on Wall Street were about to run the economy over the cliff. SO his unregulated banks essentially lost everyone's money and caused a world-wide Depression.

There's a reason there are no Aircraft Carriers or anything of note named after Calvin Coolidge.

Or why after the economy crashed under Hoover (who was left holding the bag), the GOP didn't get back into the White HOuse for 20 years and even then, only after Ike admitted, "Yeah, Coolidge and Hoover really fucked it up, let's not do that again."

ON that segue, the best GOP President of the last century was - Dwight D. Eisenhower. He was the one who recognized that there was things government should do, while ratcheting back some of the places it overextended itself during WWII and Korea.

But you'll never see a Republican embracing Eisenhower. They'll embrace this imaginary version of Ronald Reagan who was a confused old man yelling at a wall.

Once again you are showing how stupid you are. It was liberal/progressive Hoover that came in and started raising taxes to cause that economy to stall(sound familiar?). During Coolidge's time, blacks were opening up shops all around America where people, black and white, enjoyed their time shopping(except for those Southern White Democrats,KKK) who couldn't allow people to be happy, because those N ers shouldn't be allowed to own anything. Women were allowed to vote, but the Southern White Democrats thought women should be subservient to men and stay in their place, or be sex objects(I did not have sexual relations with that woman). Alas, Progressive polices once again had to stop the fun, it always does, and then the real socialist came in and got US involved into a War, the draft was enacted, poor peoples kids went off to be killed, Japanese and German Americans were interred into camps, and the gold standard was removed, so FDR could start the way of inflation, by GIVING, a chicken in ever pot. After the 3rd election of FDR, America realized because of his policies, that 2 terms were enough for any president. When that happened, America started its journey on its Road to Serfdom. The Road to Serfdom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Road to Serfdom (German: Der Weg zur Knechtschaft) is a book written by the Austrian-born economist and philosopher Friedrich von Hayek (1899–1992) between 1940–1943, in which he "[warns] of the danger of tyranny that inevitably results from government control of economic decision-making through central planning."[1] He further argues that the abandonment of individualism and classical liberalism inevitably leads to a loss of freedom, the creation of an oppressive society, the tyranny of a dictator, and the serfdom of the individual.

But there will always be liberals who are goosestepping, koolaid drinking, low information, mindnumbed useful idiots, coming out of public education. Liberals have a mental disorder, says doctor

A veteran psychiatrist now claims that liberalism is a mental disorder, not purely a political choice.

"Based on strikingly irrational beliefs and emotions, modern liberals relentlessly undermine the most important principles on which our freedoms were founded," said Dr. Lyle Rossiter, author of the new book, The Liberal Mind: The Psychological Causes of Political Madness.

"Like spoiled, angry children, they rebel against the normal responsibilities of adulthood and demand that a parental government meet their needs from cradle to grave."

When you understand this about liberalism, you can now know why they act the way they do.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

We had wobble legs promising everyone everything and creating the mindset that it's the government's job to take care of you if something bad happens in your life. Freeloaders like that kind of thing and will vote for it.

What's the alternative your side offers? "I've got mine, fuck you?"

Except your guys can't say that openly, because no one would vote for that.

Which is why your side quietly supports middle class entitlements like Medicare and Social Security and Unemployment while denouncing "Welfare Queens". (When in fact, those middle class benefit make up far more of what government spends.)

Then to totally distract stupid people like you from noticing your good paying job is going to China or being replaced by a machine, they talk about guns or abortions or gays or the War on Christmas to play on your racial, religious or sexual fears.

NOw, since you have been totally conditioned not to notice this, please proceed with an angry rant about how you will shoot anyone who tries to take your guns.

The difference between a liberal and a conservative
Liberals would give a fish to a starving man so then that man must come back the next day begging for more. That is liberal compassion.
Conservatives would rather teach that starving man to fish so that man could be reliant on himself and not have to go begging for more. That is conservatism.
Have you notice under the 7 years of Obamanomics , Obamavilles popping up everywhere?

 

[Conservative65]

We had wobble legs promising everyone everything and creating the mindset that it's the government's job to take care of you if something bad happens in your life. Freeloaders like that kind of thing and will vote for it.

What's the alternative your side offers? "I've got mine, fuck you?"

Except your guys can't say that openly, because no one would vote for that.

Which is why your side quietly supports middle class entitlements like Medicare and Social Security and Unemployment while denouncing "Welfare Queens". (When in fact, those middle class benefit make up far more of what government spends.)

Then to totally distract stupid people like you from noticing your good paying job is going to China or being replaced by a machine, they talk about guns or abortions or gays or the War on Christmas to play on your racial, religious or sexual fears.

NOw, since you have been totally conditioned not to notice this, please proceed with an angry rant about how you will shoot anyone who tries to take your guns.

The difference between a liberal and a conservative
Liberals would give a fish to a starving man so then that man must come back the next day begging for more. That is liberal compassion.
Conservatives would rather teach that starving man to fish so that man could be reliant on himself and not have to go begging for more. That is conservatism.
Have you notice under the 7 years of Obamanomics , Obamavilles popping up everywhere?

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I understand then point you're making and agree there is a difference. When it comes to Liberals, I don't disagree with what you say but would alter is to say Liberals would go about getting the government to force someone else to give that fish . . . I've found that Liberals, while they claim to have compassion, have the mindset that is they support others being required to do something it's the same as if they actually gave it themselves.

 

[PredFan]

FDR was the best!

Reagan was the one that destroyed our middle class and flooded our country with the third world. He sucked.

I bet all those Japanese-American CITIZENS he interned during WW II don't think so.

You've destroyed yourself son by thinking the government should do for you what you're too damn lazy to do for yourself. FDR created that mindset and freeloaders like you ran with it.

Agreed. FDR wasn't the first Progressive, but he was the first successful one. Gave us the total mess we are in today.

WW2 was won with FDR as president. The policies he put forth for the average worker, including social security, built the middle class in America, which reagan and all other presidents after him, have tried to destroy.

Garbage. He's responsible for the welfare state and our crushing debt.