Who's Going to Pay for the Wall?

[Dr.Traveler]

Building a wall is literally the worst possible way to do this. You can patrol with drones, monitor with satellites, and set up motion sensor networks faster and for a fraction of the cost. Actively monitor and stage fast intercept forces and you're done. Couple it with a hard hitting crack down on employers of illegals and you'd pretty much end illegal immigration on a faster timeline than a wall could be built and at a fraction of the cost.

All a wall is going to do is make some campaign contributor rich when he wins the contracts through totally-legal-in-no-way-corrupt bidding processes. They'll run over budget and way over time and the damn thing will be an eyesore China and Russia use as a photo op as they cozy up to Mexico.

 

[BettyYeti]

Yeah, such peace there.

More peace than before the wall. Walls and fences work.

Sure did for the Nazis, for a time.

I don't think you can compare nazi germany with israel.

Actually it's a snap.

Stay On Topic with regard to the OP, it's Zone 2.

Walls never work, for long.

 

[jasonnfree]

Building a wall is literally the worst possible way to do this. You can patrol with drones, monitor with satellites, and set up motion sensor networks faster and for a fraction of the cost. Actively monitor and stage fast intercept forces and you're done. Couple it with a hard hitting crack down on employers of illegals and you'd pretty much end illegal immigration on a faster timeline than a wall could be built and at a fraction of the cost.

All a wall is going to do is make some campaign contributor rich when he wins the contracts through totally-legal-in-no-way-corrupt bidding processes. They'll run over budget and way over time and the damn thing will be an eyesore China and Russia use as a photo op as they cozy up to Mexico.

The employer crackdown would work and should have been used in the past, except southern california would be a disaster case for awhile if all the illegals didn't one day show up for work.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

The idea of a wall is retarded.

It worked for Israel.

Actually not.

How many suicide attacks has Israel had since the wall was built?

The wall has been successful, but of course Leftists have been screaming about Israel's wall since it was built.

Leftist's want No Borders, they don't want any nation to be able to be secure, they just want all of the world's rubbish to pile into every nation.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

More peace than before the wall. Walls and fences work.

Sure did for the Nazis, for a time.

I don't think you can compare nazi germany with israel.

Actually it's a snap.

Stay On Topic with regard to the OP, it's Zone 2.

Walls never work, for long.

 

[Rozman]

Who knows....
Trump might be entering his softening phase in a few hours....
Please don't tell that to Hannity.....

He loves the hardening Trump.....

 

[Dr.Traveler]

Building a wall is literally the worst possible way to do this. You can patrol with drones, monitor with satellites, and set up motion sensor networks faster and for a fraction of the cost. Actively monitor and stage fast intercept forces and you're done. Couple it with a hard hitting crack down on employers of illegals and you'd pretty much end illegal immigration on a faster timeline than a wall could be built and at a fraction of the cost.

All a wall is going to do is make some campaign contributor rich when he wins the contracts through totally-legal-in-no-way-corrupt bidding processes. They'll run over budget and way over time and the damn thing will be an eyesore China and Russia use as a photo op as they cozy up to Mexico.

The employer crackdown would work and should have been used in the past, except southern california would be a disaster case for awhile if all the illegals didn't one day show up for work.

Good point. There's a dimension of this debate that gets lost in some of the latent racism that the whole thing draws in. Cracking down on illegal immigration and sealing the border is the humane thing to do. Illegal aliens are the 21st century slaves. Their working conditions are horrible, they have no legal recourse if mistreated, and the pay is minimal to the point of bare subsistence. The crossing is a nightmare and literally kills whole families. Human traffickers prey on these people like the slave traders of old.

So why the hell are we letting this go on?

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

The idea of a wall is retarded.

It worked for Israel.

And China.

Do you EVER think or read before you decide?

No, its not working for Israel, it did not work for China and it didn't work for Germany.

But, even if it did, each of those were very different from each other and different from the Sonora desert.

Here's one source sez walls work. Does a Border Fence Work? Check Out the Dramatic Change After Israel Put One Up

The Leftists have been screaming about Israel's wall from day one, they must have liked it better when the Kebab's were doing a suicide attack every other day.

Leftists support Islamic Terrorists, they do this by being apologists for Islamic Terrorism, so it's logical they don't like that Islamic Jihad and Hezbollah aren't sending human bombs into Tel Aviv anymore because of the wall.

 

[defcon4]

More peace than before the wall. Walls and fences work.

Sure did for the Nazis, for a time.

I don't think you can compare nazi germany with israel.

Actually it's a snap.

Stay On Topic with regard to the OP, it's Zone 2.

Walls never work, for long.

They did for the Eastern Block... and there was only one wall in Berlin. The rest were fences, guard towers... trip flares and serious enforcement.

 

[jasonnfree]

The idea of a wall is retarded.

It worked for Israel.

Actually not.

How many suicide attacks has Israel had since the wall was built?

The wall has been successful, but of course Leftists have been screaming about Israel's wall since it was built.

Leftist's want No Borders, they don't want any nation to be able to be secure, they just want all of the world's rubbish to pile into every nation.

They don't want borders, walls or fences, but the leaders that push all this kumbaya, love your neighbor crap on them, sure live in fortified and safe environments. Lots of money made on open borders, which is why the clintons are all for it.

 

[daws101]

The idea of a wall is retarded.

It worked for Israel.

Yeah, such peace there.

More peace than before the wall. Walls and fences work.

Sure did for the Nazis, for a time.

I don't think you can compare nazi germany with israel.

When it comes to walls you can.

 

[BettyYeti]

Sure did for the Nazis, for a time.

I don't think you can compare nazi germany with israel.

Actually it's a snap.

Stay On Topic with regard to the OP, it's Zone 2.

Walls never work, for long.

They did for the Eastern Block... and there was only one wall in Berlin. The rest were fences, guard towers... trip flares and serious enforcement.

Both failed. So will Trump.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

I don't think you can compare nazi germany with israel.

Actually it's a snap.

Stay On Topic with regard to the OP, it's Zone 2.

Walls never work, for long.

They did for the Eastern Block... and there was only one wall in Berlin. The rest were fences, guard towers... trip flares and serious enforcement.

Both failed. So will Trump.

How many suicide attacks has Israel had since they built the wall? You were going to tell us.

 

[Indeependent]

I don't think you can compare nazi germany with israel.

Actually it's a snap.

Stay On Topic with regard to the OP, it's Zone 2.

Walls never work, for long.

They did for the Eastern Block... and there was only one wall in Berlin. The rest were fences, guard towers... trip flares and serious enforcement.

Both failed. So will Trump.

You just lied.

 

[BettyYeti]

The idea of a wall is retarded.

It worked for Israel.

Actually not.

How many suicide attacks has Israel had since the wall was built?

The wall has been successful, but of course Leftists have been screaming about Israel's wall since it was built.

Leftist's want No Borders, they don't want any nation to be able to be secure, they just want all of the world's rubbish to pile into every nation.

They don't want borders, walls or fences, but the leaders that push all this kumbaya, love your neighbor crap on them, sure live in fortified and safe environments. Lots of money made on open borders, which is why the clintons are all for it.

Jesus and capitalism. Sucks

Actually it's a snap.

Stay On Topic with regard to the OP, it's Zone 2.

Walls never work, for long.

They did for the Eastern Block... and there was only one wall in Berlin. The rest were fences, guard towers... trip flares and serious enforcement.

Both failed. So will Trump.

How many suicide attacks has Israel had since they built the wall? You were going to tell us.

Do they have peace yet?

 

[daws101]

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.....the drug cartels. Sorta kinda, but yeah. This is ONE of the various ideas being thrown around. Read the exclusive and leave your beautiful comments below.

Exclusive: Trump Camp Mulls Using Seized Cartel Assets to Pay for Wall

There are a number of ways to pay for it.
Mexico gets U.S. aid as in overseas aid 50 million a year.
The reduced cost on our social services will help pay for it.
Tariffs on Mexican products can help pay for it.
It by no means is unfunded.

You can't really be THAT ignorant about our trade with Mexico!! Not to mention the lie about "social services".

You deport 11 million illegals you reduce the cost to social services.

Every time I ask this question, you run away. Here it is again:

How?

How would we deport 11 million people?
What would it cost?
How would you find them?

You kkk idiots always ignore the facts. All you've got is "round them up and deport then". You're just too damn dumb to think it through.

Funny thing is, it was the liberals who handed you a way to track and count undocumented and RWNJ traitors like you screeched like your hair was on fire.

lets make it easy for you.
those 11 million louse infested piles of walking shit you are concerned with, all found their way here without any help.
Guess what, If you take away the jobs, the assistance, the rights that citizens have under the constitution, their life will be a living hell, and just like they found their way here, they will find their way back or to some other country. Except no other country will tolerate them

So much for American exceptionalism.

 

[BettyYeti]

Actually it's a snap.

Stay On Topic with regard to the OP, it's Zone 2.

Walls never work, for long.

They did for the Eastern Block... and there was only one wall in Berlin. The rest were fences, guard towers... trip flares and serious enforcement.

Both failed. So will Trump.

You just lied.

No. Walls always fail, in time.

 

[BettyYeti]

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There are a number of ways to pay for it.
Mexico gets U.S. aid as in overseas aid 50 million a year.
The reduced cost on our social services will help pay for it.
Tariffs on Mexican products can help pay for it.
It by no means is unfunded.

You can't really be THAT ignorant about our trade with Mexico!! Not to mention the lie about "social services".

You deport 11 million illegals you reduce the cost to social services.

Every time I ask this question, you run away. Here it is again:

How?

How would we deport 11 million people?
What would it cost?
How would you find them?

You kkk idiots always ignore the facts. All you've got is "round them up and deport then". You're just too damn dumb to think it through.

Funny thing is, it was the liberals who handed you a way to track and count undocumented and RWNJ traitors like you screeched like your hair was on fire.

lets make it easy for you.
those 11 million louse infested piles of walking shit you are concerned with, all found their way here without any help.
Guess what, If you take away the jobs, the assistance, the rights that citizens have under the constitution, their life will be a living hell, and just like they found their way here, they will find their way back or to some other country. Except no other country will tolerate them

So much for American exceptionalism.

Damn little of that.

 

[defcon4]

I don't think you can compare nazi germany with israel.

Actually it's a snap.

Stay On Topic with regard to the OP, it's Zone 2.

Walls never work, for long.

They did for the Eastern Block... and there was only one wall in Berlin. The rest were fences, guard towers... trip flares and serious enforcement.

Both failed. So will Trump.

Communism failed not border enforcement. You need to look at causation if it doesn't exceed your capabilities.

 

[Tilly]

It worked for Israel.

Yeah, such peace there.

More peace than before the wall. Walls and fences work.

Sure did for the Nazis, for a time.

I don't think you can compare nazi germany with israel.

When it comes to walls you can.

65 countries have walls around them. Are they all Nazis too?