Why are "atheists" offended by "G-d" ?

Is your belief that there isn't any creator superior to my belief that there is?

I think you misunderstand atheism, or non-theism. It isn't that atheism denies any possible existence of a higher power, its that atheists are not convinced there is a god because there is insufficient evidence supporting that conclusion. So to us, the jury is still out on this case.

Yes, there are antitheists, but they are as dogmatic in their belief that there can be no god as the religious who believe there must be a god. Neither have evidence to support their positions.

Dogma is the enemy of learning and open-mindedness.

I suspect you are confusing "athiest" with "agnostic".

Not at all. Atheists deny the existence of a godhead due to lack of supporting evidence, much like they would deny the existence of say Zeus, or other mythological figures. That doesn't mean that Atheists pretend to be all knowing or deny that the existence of a god might be a possibility, we only 'know' in so much as we currently have a lack of evidence to suggest anything else, but generally would be perfectly willing to change our minds should ample evidence be provided.
 
Is your belief that there isn't any creator superior to my belief that there is?

I think you misunderstand atheism, or non-theism. It isn't that atheism denies any possible existence of a higher power, its that atheists are not convinced there is a god because there is insufficient evidence supporting that conclusion. So to us, the jury is still out on this case.

Yes, there are antitheists, but they are as dogmatic in their belief that there can be no god as the religious who believe there must be a god. Neither have evidence to support their positions.

Dogma is the enemy of learning and open-mindedness.

I suspect you are confusing "athiest" with "agnostic".
no, he was spot on.
 
:lol: At least you're predictable..
really? you are so predictable that even the slightest criticism of your pov drives you batshit .:lol:

No, it's not criticism that you dish out, it's complete lack of respect, arrogance, and condescension. So it's not your pov that I take issue with, it's your attitude.
as always you'd be wrong...as to attitude, people in glass churches ....
 
asked and answered

I've never seen it then..
that's because you haven't looked and I suspect you wouldn't understand it any way.

Off topic message to Daws. You were correct - the Chinese Emperor did conquer more land than Solomon - Solomon conquered more than any other King in Israeli history - not world history. I was mistaken. You were correct. Just wanted to let you know. - Jeri
 
Why are "atheists" offended by "G-d" ?
Because "atheists" like it when all the vowels in a word are used.
They have a thing about correct spelling.
 
I think their neo-religious reverence for an all-powerful government forbids their recognition of any other deity.

Or we could go with this stupid answer.

Why did the Soviet Union and other communist nations ban Christianity?

:confused: I'm a bit perplexed. The topic is "Why are "Atheists" offended by G-d"?

Why it's confusing:

1. Most Christians don't spell God, as G-d.
2. Christians rarely say "Merry Fucking Christmas."; as it would have resulted in a beating from our parents, when we were children.
3. Is this a straw man, or is there a story behind this?
 
:confused: I'm a bit perplexed. The topic is "Why are "Atheists" offended by G-d"?

Why it's confusing:

1. Most Christians don't spell God, as G-d.
2. Christians rarely say "Merry Fucking Christmas."; as it would have resulted in a beating from our parents, when we were children.
3. Is this a straw man, or is there a story behind this?

[MENTION=19216]mskafka[/MENTION]

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Jews, like myself, must cannot spell G-d in most cases, that is forbidden, as His name may be profaned. Although I may occasionally forget to adhere to this (and most Jews also forget), it would be a travesty to forget to uphold that law when making a thread of this nature.

Judaism 101: The Name of G-d
 
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:confused: I'm a bit perplexed. The topic is "Why are "Atheists" offended by G-d"?

Why it's confusing:

1. Most Christians don't spell God, as G-d.
2. Christians rarely say "Merry Fucking Christmas."; as it would have resulted in a beating from our parents, when we were children.
3. Is this a straw man, or is there a story behind this?

[MENTION=19216]mskafka[/MENTION]

???

Jews, like myself, must cannot spell G-d in most cases, that is forbidden, as His name may be profaned. Although I may occasionally forget to adhere to this (and most Jews also forget), it would be a travesty to forget to uphold that law when making a thread of this nature.

Judaism 101: The Name of G-d
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:confused: I'm a bit perplexed. The topic is "Why are "Atheists" offended by G-d"?

Why it's confusing:

1. Most Christians don't spell God, as G-d.
2. Christians rarely say "Merry Fucking Christmas."; as it would have resulted in a beating from our parents, when we were children.
3. Is this a straw man, or is there a story behind this?

[MENTION=19216]mskafka[/MENTION]

???

Jews, like myself, must cannot spell G-d in most cases, that is forbidden, as His name may be profaned. Although I may occasionally forget to adhere to this (and most Jews also forget), it would be a travesty to forget to uphold that law when making a thread of this nature.

Judaism 101: The Name of G-d

I appreciate the explanation, as I've always wondered about that. I knew that you were Jewish. Atheists...you know that's not a new thing. It even hit my small high school graduation, in 1993. Because it was a public school, someone filed a lawsuit to stop prayer at our graduation. I didn't like it, but it was/is the law, in public schools.

Many of them have probably had bad experiences with Christians. And many of them probably just enjoy the publicity gained from being disagreeable. Whatever the reason, it's not a new thing.
 
really? you are so predictable that even the slightest criticism of your pov drives you batshit .:lol:

No, it's not criticism that you dish out, it's complete lack of respect, arrogance, and condescension. So it's not your pov that I take issue with, it's your attitude.
as always you'd be wrong...as to attitude, people in glass churches ....

Your words speak for themselves.
 
If you don't believe that G-d exists, then why are you offended and afraid of mentioning His name? Why most we all bow down before you politically correct bullshit of omitting G-d? Since you don't believe in G-d, you shouldn't care whether we mention His name or not.
It's not the word 'God' that frightens me but the way theists say it with all seriousness. Because they have a strongly knit community that sees no evil in the baseless presumption of their beliefs as facts, which they further presume entitles them to impose their customs and traditions directly by law or indirectly by legally prohibiting all alternative customs and traditions. And when atheists challenge these oppressive abuses of power, theists respond as though they are the oppressed rather than the oppressors.
 
Why did the Soviet Union and other communist nations ban Christianity?
Why did the United States ban alcohol?

Because both are mind altering toxins that suppress rational thinking and cause violent behavior.

The Soviet Union was socialist, not communist. Not that it's any better, just saying.
 
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Being anti-God is the 2013 equivalent of the cigarettes rolled up in white t-shirt sleeve.

Its kewl to be counter and shows are smart you are in figuring out existence with certainty.
Anything that isn't proven to exist is, by definition, imaginary. But I can't be certain of the non-existence of any finite imaginary creature without searching the whole universe, and with such speed that no such creature may hide from me or evolve into existence in the mean time.

But the bible God is not described as finite. He is described as infinite in every way so the rules that apply to finite things does not apply to bible God. Being all-powerful, bible God should be anything but invisible. And being all-present, bible God should be obvious to me no matter where I am. Being all-wise, bible God should know precisely how to present himself to me such that his existence is undeniable. So, in the special case of infinite bible God, there can be no mere evidence, only proof. The absolute non-existence of his proof is absolute proof of his non-existence.
 
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If you don't believe that G-d exists, then why are you offended and afraid of mentioning His name? Why most we all bow down before you politically correct bullshit of omitting G-d? Since you don't believe in G-d, you shouldn't care whether we mention His name or not.
It's not the word 'God' that frightens me but the way theists say it with all seriousness. Because they have a strongly knit community that sees no evil in the baseless presumption of their beliefs as facts, which they further presume entitles them to impose their customs and traditions directly by law or indirectly by legally prohibiting all alternative customs and traditions. And when atheists challenge these oppressive abuses of power, theists respond as though they are the oppressed rather than the oppressors.

I don't think faith is a baseless presumption. Everything happens in life because of faith. We work because we have faith that we will be paid in the end of the pay period. We marry because we have faith that our relationship will work out. We exercise because we have faith that it will benefit our health.

My faith in God has grown because of my experiences with God. I've sought Him. I am not going to say I know everything about Him. But I know He lives. And I know He loves me. So I put my faith and confidence in Him.

It's because I have faith in God that I believe in small government. I believe the scriptures when they say "Choose this day whom you will serve." I believe we should be free to choose good and not forced to. And I invite people to follow Christ, not by creating some law. But of their free will.

I've studied history. I've seen the hand of Divine Providence acting throughout history. I've seen the evidences in my own live. The Lord has healed me physically, spiritually, emotionally, and mentally at various points in my life.

If you choose not to serve the Lord. That's your right. The only contention I have is when I am told that I no longer have a right to serve the Lord in the way I choose.
 
Why did the Soviet Union and other communist nations ban Christianity?
Why did the United States ban alcohol?

Because both are mind altering toxins that suppress rational thinking and cause violent behavior.

The Soviet Union was socialist, not communist. Not that it's any better, just saying.

So we should ban atheism? There is nothing rational about atheism. Agnosticism, yes, but not atheism.

I know people exalt rational thought as the only way to learn. but there are limits on what you can learn through rational thought alone. it should always be part of our thinking, but sometimes you cant learn through reason alone. Experience is often necessary. Sometimes we should think with our emotionals. We were given them for a reason.

I think that we as human beings learn in multiple ways. I've thought about it quite a bit and I dont pretend that this list is extensive, but these are the ways I seen so far:

1) We learn through reason.
2) We learn through experience.
3) We learn through emotion
4) We learn through revelation.

If we use only one and ignore all the other areas, we limit what we can learn in life. I see no reason to do that. It doesn't seem reasonable.

That's why I think those who rely on reason alone limit there abilities to grow.
 
Being anti-God is the 2013 equivalent of the cigarettes rolled up in white t-shirt sleeve.

Its kewl to be counter and shows are smart you are in figuring out existence with certainty.
Anything that isn't proven to exist is, by definition, imaginary. But I can't be certain of the non-existence of any finite imaginary creature without searching the whole universe, and with such speed that no such creature may hide from me or evolve into existence in the mean time.

But the bible God is not described as finite. He is described as infinite in every way so the rules that apply to finite things does not apply to bible God. Being all-powerful, bible God should be anything but invisible. And being all-present, bible God should be obvious to me no matter where I am. Being all-wise, bible God should know precisely how to present himself to me such that his existence is undeniable. So, in the special case of infinite bible God, there can be no mere evidence, only proof. The absolute non-existence of his proof is absolute proof of his non-existence.


So love is imaginary? Who knew?

If you want to know God, seek Him out. Those who seek find. Those who ask recieve.
 
Or we could go with this stupid answer.

Why did the Soviet Union and other communist nations ban Christianity?

Inaccurate: They also 'banned' every other religion. Today KSA bans every other religion but Islam - IMO that's no different.

They actually bring their children to church:

Children are a statistically significant factor when it comes to church attendance among atheist scientists, according to researchers from Rice University and the University at Buffalo.

As Patheos "Science on Religion" blogger Nicholas C. DiDonato notes, atheists may attend religious services for a variety of reasons. However, "the attendance rate of atheists with children jumps 70% compared to those without," he writes.

What Brings Atheists to Church? Their Children, Research Shows | Gleanings | ChristianityToday.com

The reason?

But the scientists don't cite spirituality as one of their top reasons for attending church services, DiDonato points out. Rather, they may bring their children to church in order to teach values and morals.

-Ibid.
 

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