Why can't Public Assistance increase?

[Ray From Cleveland]

Since 1933 we've been hearing the same broken record from the Progressives.

Nothing changes.

Except: Reaganist tax rates and loopholes, the New BS GOP propaganda Service, W, pure mindless obstruction. FDR made us a modern country, and we're sticking with it lol.

Nope... we were made a modern country by people like Andrew Carnegie and J.P. Morgan. What you're "sticking with" is the failed early 20th century policy of FDR that has never worked to provide this "living wage" you're always chasing. Your speeches are almost verbatim to what he said 82 years ago... through which, you've had the lion's share of control in Washington.

Tax rates NEED to be lowered. There is absolutely NO reason any American should be paying more than 20% in Federal income taxes. Corporate taxes should be lowered to near zero. The average 2,000 Federal regulations being passed by Congress each session need to be rolled back, rescinded, repealed and removed from around the necks of free market capitalists so the economy can roar again.

That is failed rhetoric. The time of the greatest economic, and employment boom in our history was under the Eisenhower administration when the tax rate was 91%. Now, I'm not suggesting that we need to go back to that, however, historically, every time the tax rate has been lowered, income inequality has risen, unemployment has increased, and federal revenue has decreased.

Or let's look at modern examples:

Kansas, did exactly what you insist is absolutely brilliant for the economy. Lowered taxes for the rich, repealed all taxes on more than 100,000 businesses, privatized Medicaid, cut $200 million from education, eliminated 4 government agencies, and 2,000 government employees. And how much did that boost Kansas' economy? Welllll...they suffered a $688 MILLION loss in revenue, are sitting on a $700 million deficit, and had a pathetic 1.1% job growth, the lowest in the nation.

Then there's that "libtard Utopia" California. When Schwarzenegger left office, he left California with a crippling $34 BILLION - That's Billion with a "B" - deficit. Since Jerry Brown came into office, He raised taxes on the rich - several times - has invested in clean energy, education, raised the minimum wage, and California now has a $4.2 Billion budget surplus.

Now, one of the two economic models - "Trickle Down", or raise taxes, and invest in the working class - works, and one doesn't. Hmmm...I wonder which one works...

Yes, that worked out so well:

http://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/b...a-lost-9-000-business-hqs-and-expansions.html

$15 Minimum Wage Sends California Businesses Fleeing

Why Are California's Businesses Disappearing?

 

[Czernobog]

As for what STATES are doing... I couldn't care less. We're not discussing States. My comments on taxation are in regard to the FEDERAL taxes and FEDERAL government. Not the States. You turd heads like to confound the argument by moving the goal posts. You should know, that's never going to fly with me.

Except the states are microcosmic models of the very model you want to follow. So, when it does not work on small scale, what possible reason do you have to believe that the result would be any better on a grand scale?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

You don't. The fact is, we just need to keep doing what needs to be done to get living wage legislation passed. Let them bitch. Their bitching is irrelevant. You're never going to "convince" them. They'll just have to put up with the reality that they don't get to pay slave wages.

And you'll have to put up with the reality they will either increase price of product or service, layoff employees, or otherwise move their business out of the country where they don't have to put up with this crap.

When will you people on the left ever learn that when you forcibly take something away from somebody, they will pass their loss onto you? They are not going to take the loss--we are.

 

[Boss]

Reaganist tax rates are killing the middle class, In the fifties, corps paid 30% of taxes, now 10%- and not giant corps, SMALL BUSINESS. GREAT JOB!. The rich are paying 12% of income in fed income taxes. The dupes know nothing.

The Demise of the American Middle Class In Numbers.

Over the past 35 years the American dream has gradually disappeared. The process was slow, so most people didn’t notice. They just worked a few more hours, borrowed a little more and cut back on non-essentials. But looking at the numbers and comparing them over long time periods, it is obvious that things have changed drastically. Here are the details:

1. WORKERS PRODUCE MORE BUT THE GAINS GO TO BUSINESS.

Over the past 63 years worker productivity has grown by 2.0% per year.

But after 1980, workers received a smaller share every year. Labor’s share of income (1992 = 100%):

1950 = 101%
1960 = 105%
1970 = 105%
1980 = 105% – Reagan
1990 = 100%
2000 = 96%
2007 = 92%

A 13% drop since 1980

2. THE TOP 10% GET A LARGER SHARE.

Share of National Income going to Top 10%:

1950 = 35%
1960 = 34%
1970 = 34%
1980 = 34% – Reagan
1990 = 40%
2000 = 47%
2007 = 50%

An increase of 16% since Reagan.

3. WORKERS COMPENSATED FOR THE LOSS OF INCOME BY SPENDING THEIR SAVINGS.

The savings Rose up to Reagan and fell during and after.

1950 = 6.0%
1960 = 7.0%
1970 = 8.5%
1980 = 10.0% – Reagan
1982 = 11.2% – Peak
1990 = 7.0%
2000 = 2.0%
2006 = -1.1% (Negative = withdrawing from savings)

A 12.3% drop after Reagan.

4. WORKERS ALSO BORROWED TO MAKE UP FOR THE LOSS.

Household Debt as percentage of GDP:

1965 = 46%
1970 = 45%
1980 = 50% – Reagan
1990 = 61%
2000 = 69%
2007 = 95%

A 45% increase after 1980.

5. SO THE GAP BETWEEN THE RICHEST AND THE POOREST HAS GROWN.

Gap Between the Share of Capital Income earned by the top 1%
and the bottom 80%:

1980 = 10%
2003 = 56%

A 5.6 times increase.

6. AND THE AMERICAN DREAM IS GONE.

The Probably of Moving Up from the Bottom 40% to the Top 40%:

1945 = 12%
1958 = 6%
1990 = 3%
2000 = 2%

A 10% Decrease.

Links:

1 = ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/special.requests/pf/totalf1.txt
1 = https://www.clevelandfed.org/Research/PolicyDis/No7Nov04.pdf
1 = Clipboard01.jpg (image)
2 – Congratulations to Emmanuel Saez
3 = http://www.demos.org/inequality/images/charts/uspersonalsaving_thumb.gif
3 = U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA)
4 = Federated Prudent Bear Fund (A): Overview
4 = FRB: Z.1 Release--Financial Accounts of the United States--June 9, 2016
5/6 = 15 Mind-Blowing Facts About Wealth And Inequality In America

Overview = http://www.ourfuture.org/blog-entry/2010062415/reagan-revolution-home-roost-charts

All of this is Marxist-Socialist propagandist bullshit.

It begins on the ridiculous premise that "productivity" is solely achieved by "the worker" and that's simply a LIE. Nearly ALL increase in productivity over the past 50 years is the result of technology created and invested in by capitalists. With the advent of computers, productivity has soared in recent years... but you are laying claim to all of that on behalf of "the worker" when "the worker" had nothing to do with it.

and AGAIN.... The "gap between rich and poor" ALWAYS grows in a free market, free enterprise, free society. It's ONLY in a controlled, authoritarian, state-run, Communist-Socialist-Marxist system the difference between rich and poor remains the same.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Well, thanks to efforts of morons like you, Walmart is closing about 1,200 stores nationwide. So lookey-there? You got rid of all those horrible jobs! I'm sure all the people who lost them appreciate your diligent efforts. RETARD!

I've worked closely with Walmart and know for a fact that you're flat out lying through your shit-stained teeth. As entry-level jobs go, they are one of the best. They promote quality people rapidly. If you reach the level of department manager, chances are you're going to retire with Walmart. Of course, thousands of people will never know this now because of idiots like you and this 24/7/365 campaign to smear them any way you can.

That's what they are trained to do.

Demorat politicians treat their followers like attack dogs. Just feed them BS, and they will repeat it like a parrot.

 

[Boss]

As for what STATES are doing... I couldn't care less. We're not discussing States. My comments on taxation are in regard to the FEDERAL taxes and FEDERAL government. Not the States. You turd heads like to confound the argument by moving the goal posts. You should know, that's never going to fly with me.

Except the states are microcosmic models of the very model you want to follow. So, when it does not work on small scale, what possible reason do you have to believe that the result would be any better on a grand scale?

No they certainly are not. The States have completely different responsibilities and powers under the Constitution. They also have their own unique sets of problems to deal with. How they deal with them is up to them, I don't have any say in the matter, nor do I want to have. Some of the most economically prosperous states have NO income tax! Some of them have no corporate tax or may even offer additional incentives to lure corporations to their state. I don't see you citing any of those examples here because it doesn't fit your meme.

 

[Czernobog]

You don't. The fact is, we just need to keep doing what needs to be done to get living wage legislation passed. Let them bitch. Their bitching is irrelevant. You're never going to "convince" them. They'll just have to put up with the reality that they don't get to pay slave wages.

And you'll have to put up with the reality they will either increase price of product or service, layoff employees, or otherwise move their business out of the country where they don't have to put up with this crap.

When will you people on the left ever learn that when you forcibly take something away from somebody, they will pass their loss onto you? They are not going to take the loss--we are.

That's okay. When we get legislation that adds a tax burden to anyone who moves their business out of the country, while rewarding companies that do business in the US, and hires in the US, let them go. Just more revenue for the federal budget, and the business owners who are so short-sighted in their business practices still pay for their attitudes. As for the price increases. There is no historical evidence that wage increases have ever had a direct effect on the cost of goods, so I have no reason to believe it will now.

 

[Czernobog]

As for what STATES are doing... I couldn't care less. We're not discussing States. My comments on taxation are in regard to the FEDERAL taxes and FEDERAL government. Not the States. You turd heads like to confound the argument by moving the goal posts. You should know, that's never going to fly with me.

Except the states are microcosmic models of the very model you want to follow. So, when it does not work on small scale, what possible reason do you have to believe that the result would be any better on a grand scale?

No they certainly are not. The States have completely different responsibilities and powers under the Constitution. They also have their own unique sets of problems to deal with. How they deal with them is up to them, I don't have any say in the matter, nor do I want to have. Some of the most economically prosperous states have NO income tax! Some of them have no corporate tax or may even offer additional incentives to lure corporations to their state. I don't see you citing any of those examples here because it doesn't fit your meme.

If you say so.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

$30K Retrofit Turns Dumb Semis Into Self-Driving Robots

It'll be interesting to see whether or not you continue to be a defender of all of the cost cutting measures corporations are trying to use when your livelihood is lost.

Oh please. A test pilot for a Google car just ran off of a cliff and killed the driver of one of these vehicles.

Even if this were to happen, I'll be long retired or off of this earth. Nobody is going to pay the outrageous insurance rates for these vehicles because there will be a hell of a lot of accidents.

By then, they may have some that will be on the highway, but they will never be able to make one that can drive city in our lifetime. And driving in dangerous weather is out. You need an experienced operator to make it through snowstorms and windy conditions.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

That's okay. When we get legislation that adds a tax burden to anyone who moves their business out of the country, while rewarding companies that do business in the US, and hires in the US, let them go. Just more revenue for the federal budget, and the business owners who are so short-sighted in their business practices still pay for their attitudes. As for the price increases. There is no historical evidence that wage increases have ever had a direct effect on the cost of goods, so I have no reason to believe it will now.

Oh, now that's grand. It goes to show you why we call your people uninformed voters.

You increase costs to any business, they will increase the price of their services. They have no other choice. Many of our businesses are barely able to get by now. Burdening them with additional expenses will close them down.

As for the businesses that can survive, they are not going to do with less profit. Your $10.00 hammer at the hardware store will increase to $12.00 or more. Your car wash that was $12.00 today will be $15.00 the next time you go.

You want historical evidence? When did businesses start leaving this country? That's right, when unions had their greatest strength.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

They did not increase prices store by store based on competition. Walmart increases their prices across the board whether there is competition or not. Their store prices reflect their internet prices.

Huh. I din't think they even had "internet prices" in the 80's and 90's. Can you link to that? Because that was when the prices started going up at Walmart, after all the local competition was gone.

If you're talking about places like Bob's sewing machine shop, Earls coin shop, Eleanor's dress shop, those places closed down long ago whether there was a Walmart in the area or not. Yes, larger chains took over and we are a throw away society today. Those kinds of places are still around, but there are much less of them. It has nothing to do with Walmart, because the businesses you mentioned above, Walmart doesn't even participate in.

Really? Walmart doesn't sell clothes? They don't sell hardware? They don't sell appliances? What the fuck does the Walmart where you live sell?!?! grain and feed?!?!?

Yes, they priced them out of business. That's what businesses do. The cheaper price gets the business, but you can't say that all at once, Walmart didn't increased their prices due to lack of competition. I'm sure they increase their prices all the time. Taxes go up, pay scales go up, health insurance goes way up, the suppliers Walmart gets their merchandise increases the cost of their products, as a truck driver, I can tell you that our prices went way up because of all the environmental crap we now have to deal with.

Yeah. Sure. you're right. I'm sure it was just a coincidence that none of those price increases started until after the local competition they were trying to put out of business was actually out of business...

...just a coincidence...

Really? Walmart doesn't sell clothes? They don't sell hardware? They don't sell appliances? What the fuck does the Walmart where you live sell?!?! grain and feed?!?!?

You said things like tailoring. Walmart has very few large appliances. They do sell microwaves, blenders and coffee machines. Nobody buys large appliances at Walmart.

Yeah. Sure. you're right. I'm sure it was just a coincidence that none of those price increases started until after the local competition they were trying to put out of business was actually out of business...

...just a coincidence...

Yeah, I'm sure you're telling the truth. And when you send a link to your claim, then we will talk about it.

 

[francoHFW]

Reaganist tax rates are killing the middle class, In the fifties, corps paid 30% of taxes, now 10%- and not giant corps, SMALL BUSINESS. GREAT JOB!. The rich are paying 12% of income in fed income taxes. The dupes know nothing.

The Demise of the American Middle Class In Numbers.

Over the past 35 years the American dream has gradually disappeared. The process was slow, so most people didn’t notice. They just worked a few more hours, borrowed a little more and cut back on non-essentials. But looking at the numbers and comparing them over long time periods, it is obvious that things have changed drastically. Here are the details:

1. WORKERS PRODUCE MORE BUT THE GAINS GO TO BUSINESS.

Over the past 63 years worker productivity has grown by 2.0% per year.

But after 1980, workers received a smaller share every year. Labor’s share of income (1992 = 100%):

1950 = 101%
1960 = 105%
1970 = 105%
1980 = 105% – Reagan
1990 = 100%
2000 = 96%
2007 = 92%

A 13% drop since 1980

2. THE TOP 10% GET A LARGER SHARE.

Share of National Income going to Top 10%:

1950 = 35%
1960 = 34%
1970 = 34%
1980 = 34% – Reagan
1990 = 40%
2000 = 47%
2007 = 50%

An increase of 16% since Reagan.

3. WORKERS COMPENSATED FOR THE LOSS OF INCOME BY SPENDING THEIR SAVINGS.

The savings Rose up to Reagan and fell during and after.

1950 = 6.0%
1960 = 7.0%
1970 = 8.5%
1980 = 10.0% – Reagan
1982 = 11.2% – Peak
1990 = 7.0%
2000 = 2.0%
2006 = -1.1% (Negative = withdrawing from savings)

A 12.3% drop after Reagan.

4. WORKERS ALSO BORROWED TO MAKE UP FOR THE LOSS.

Household Debt as percentage of GDP:

1965 = 46%
1970 = 45%
1980 = 50% – Reagan
1990 = 61%
2000 = 69%
2007 = 95%

A 45% increase after 1980.

5. SO THE GAP BETWEEN THE RICHEST AND THE POOREST HAS GROWN.

Gap Between the Share of Capital Income earned by the top 1%
and the bottom 80%:

1980 = 10%
2003 = 56%

A 5.6 times increase.

6. AND THE AMERICAN DREAM IS GONE.

The Probably of Moving Up from the Bottom 40% to the Top 40%:

1945 = 12%
1958 = 6%
1990 = 3%
2000 = 2%

A 10% Decrease.

Links:

1 = ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/special.requests/pf/totalf1.txt
1 = https://www.clevelandfed.org/Research/PolicyDis/No7Nov04.pdf
1 = Clipboard01.jpg (image)
2 – Congratulations to Emmanuel Saez
3 = http://www.demos.org/inequality/images/charts/uspersonalsaving_thumb.gif
3 = U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA)
4 = Federated Prudent Bear Fund (A): Overview
4 = FRB: Z.1 Release--Financial Accounts of the United States--June 9, 2016
5/6 = 15 Mind-Blowing Facts About Wealth And Inequality In America

Overview = http://www.ourfuture.org/blog-entry/2010062415/reagan-revolution-home-roost-charts

All of this is Marxist-Socialist propagandist bullshit.

It begins on the ridiculous premise that "productivity" is solely achieved by "the worker" and that's simply a LIE. Nearly ALL increase in productivity over the past 50 years is the result of technology created and invested in by capitalists. With the advent of computers, productivity has soared in recent years... but you are laying claim to all of that on behalf of "the worker" when "the worker" had nothing to do with it.

and AGAIN.... The "gap between rich and poor" ALWAYS grows in a free market, free enterprise, free society. It's ONLY in a controlled, authoritarian, state-run, Communist-Socialist-Marxist system the difference between rich and poor remains the same.

Look at #3 and #4, dupe. The rich poor gap didn't grow until Reaganism DUH.

 

[LittleNipper]

While I believe some people are poor through no fault of their own; I also note that premarital sex, divorce, free love, drugs, drunken behavior, addiction, laziness, poor study habits, a disrespect for society, shunning the elderly, contempt of authority and neglect of spiritual needs come at a price.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Look at #3 and #4, dupe. The rich poor gap didn't grow until Reaganism DUH.

It started to grow after he left office. It continued to grow throughout the 16 years of the Clinton and DumBama administrations.

You brainwashed buffoons don't understand that since Reagan, we have more things to buy. The more we buy, the more wealth we transfer wealth to the top.

So let's go back to the 80's. What did the average American home have? We had a color television set, a Am/FM radio, one car per family, and perhaps a cheap video game system. That's what we spent our money on.

What do we spend our money on today? Cell phones for the family, high tech video games, Netflix,, the internet, cable television, a car for every adult member of the family, we eat out two, three or sometimes more times per week, big screen television sets, satellite radio, CD movie rentals, computers and computer programs........

You want to stop the wealth gap, then charity starts at home I always say. Turn off that computer and tell your internet and cable company you are discontinuing services. Get rid of your cell phone and buy a cheap landline. In the mood for a Big Mac? Forget about it. You don't want to transfer your money to those multi-billion dollar companies, now do you? And get rid of that car in the garage too. You don't need to be sending your money to those billionaire oil and auto companies. Take the bus or get a bicycle.

So it's been nice talking to you. I know we won't see you again since you are on the move to not transfer any more of your money to those greedy billionaires. And I know you'll do it too, because you liberals are never hypocrites.

 

[francoHFW]

Look at #3 and #4, dupe. The rich poor gap didn't grow until Reaganism DUH.

It started to grow after he left office. It continued to grow throughout the 16 years of the Clinton and DumBama administrations.

You brainwashed buffoons don't understand that since Reagan, we have more things to buy. The more we buy, the more wealth we transfer wealth to the top.

So let's go back to the 80's. What did the average American home have? We had a color television set, a Am/FM radio, one car per family, and perhaps a cheap video game system. That's what we spent our money on.

What do we spend our money on today? Cell phones for the family, high tech video games, Netflix,, the internet, cable television, a car for every adult member of the family, we eat out two, three or sometimes more times per week, big screen television sets, satellite radio, CD movie rentals, computers and computer programs........

You want to stop the wealth gap, then charity starts at home I always say. Turn off that computer and tell your internet and cable company you are discontinuing services. Get rid of your cell phone and buy a cheap landline. In the mood for a Big Mac? Forget about it. You don't want to transfer your money to those multi-billion dollar companies, now do you? And get rid of that car in the garage too. You don't need to be sending your money to those billionaire oil and auto companies. Take the bus or get a bicycle.

So it's been nice talking to you. I know we won't see you again since you are on the move to not transfer any more of your money to those greedy billionaires. And I know you'll do it too, because you liberals are never hypocrites.

Can you read? Started with Reaganist tax rates DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. And your solution is to live like you're poor LOLOLOLOLOL. Get some rest.

 

[francoHFW]

While I believe some people are poor through no fault of their own; I also note that premarital sex, divorce, free love, drugs, drunken behavior, addiction, laziness, poor study habits, a disrespect for society, shunning the elderly, contempt of authority and neglect of spiritual needs come at a price.

After 30 years of Voodoo: worst min. wage, work conditions, illegal work safeguards, vacations, work week, college costs, rich/poor gap, upward social mobility, % homeless and in prison EVAH, and in the modern world!! And you complain about the victims? Are you an idiot or an A-hole?

 

[Boss]

Reaganist tax rates are killing the middle class, In the fifties, corps paid 30% of taxes, now 10%- and not giant corps, SMALL BUSINESS. GREAT JOB!. The rich are paying 12% of income in fed income taxes. The dupes know nothing.

The Demise of the American Middle Class In Numbers.

Over the past 35 years the American dream has gradually disappeared. The process was slow, so most people didn’t notice. They just worked a few more hours, borrowed a little more and cut back on non-essentials. But looking at the numbers and comparing them over long time periods, it is obvious that things have changed drastically. Here are the details:

1. WORKERS PRODUCE MORE BUT THE GAINS GO TO BUSINESS.

Over the past 63 years worker productivity has grown by 2.0% per year.

But after 1980, workers received a smaller share every year. Labor’s share of income (1992 = 100%):

1950 = 101%
1960 = 105%
1970 = 105%
1980 = 105% – Reagan
1990 = 100%
2000 = 96%
2007 = 92%

A 13% drop since 1980

2. THE TOP 10% GET A LARGER SHARE.

Share of National Income going to Top 10%:

1950 = 35%
1960 = 34%
1970 = 34%
1980 = 34% – Reagan
1990 = 40%
2000 = 47%
2007 = 50%

An increase of 16% since Reagan.

3. WORKERS COMPENSATED FOR THE LOSS OF INCOME BY SPENDING THEIR SAVINGS.

The savings Rose up to Reagan and fell during and after.

1950 = 6.0%
1960 = 7.0%
1970 = 8.5%
1980 = 10.0% – Reagan
1982 = 11.2% – Peak
1990 = 7.0%
2000 = 2.0%
2006 = -1.1% (Negative = withdrawing from savings)

A 12.3% drop after Reagan.

4. WORKERS ALSO BORROWED TO MAKE UP FOR THE LOSS.

Household Debt as percentage of GDP:

1965 = 46%
1970 = 45%
1980 = 50% – Reagan
1990 = 61%
2000 = 69%
2007 = 95%

A 45% increase after 1980.

5. SO THE GAP BETWEEN THE RICHEST AND THE POOREST HAS GROWN.

Gap Between the Share of Capital Income earned by the top 1%
and the bottom 80%:

1980 = 10%
2003 = 56%

A 5.6 times increase.

6. AND THE AMERICAN DREAM IS GONE.

The Probably of Moving Up from the Bottom 40% to the Top 40%:

1945 = 12%
1958 = 6%
1990 = 3%
2000 = 2%

A 10% Decrease.

Links:

1 = ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/special.requests/pf/totalf1.txt
1 = https://www.clevelandfed.org/Research/PolicyDis/No7Nov04.pdf
1 = Clipboard01.jpg (image)
2 – Congratulations to Emmanuel Saez
3 = http://www.demos.org/inequality/images/charts/uspersonalsaving_thumb.gif
3 = U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA)
4 = Federated Prudent Bear Fund (A): Overview
4 = FRB: Z.1 Release--Financial Accounts of the United States--June 9, 2016
5/6 = 15 Mind-Blowing Facts About Wealth And Inequality In America

Overview = http://www.ourfuture.org/blog-entry/2010062415/reagan-revolution-home-roost-charts

All of this is Marxist-Socialist propagandist bullshit.

It begins on the ridiculous premise that "productivity" is solely achieved by "the worker" and that's simply a LIE. Nearly ALL increase in productivity over the past 50 years is the result of technology created and invested in by capitalists. With the advent of computers, productivity has soared in recent years... but you are laying claim to all of that on behalf of "the worker" when "the worker" had nothing to do with it.

and AGAIN.... The "gap between rich and poor" ALWAYS grows in a free market, free enterprise, free society. It's ONLY in a controlled, authoritarian, state-run, Communist-Socialist-Marxist system the difference between rich and poor remains the same.

Look at #3 and #4, dupe. The rich poor gap didn't grow until Reaganism DUH.

Yes it did, you're simply cherry-picking a 30-year period where it didn't grow as much. Your cabal has all the facts and figures parsed out and pieced together to make your case. This is how you convince idiots and morons when the facts aren't on your side.

And there is no need to call it "Reaganism" when it's Free Market Capitalism. That's what you're wanting to kill... so be honest about that and stop trying to tie it to a person you can bash and trash, who isn't here to defend himself anymore. Just be honest, tell the people that you're a Marxist-Socialist who thinks Marxism is the best system in spite of it's horrendous history. No need to invent new names for what you're doing or what you're attacking... we're all grown ups who can handle the truth.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

After 30 years of Voodoo: worst min. wage, work conditions, illegal work safeguards, vacations, work week, college costs, rich/poor gap, upward social mobility, % homeless and in prison EVAH, and in the modern world!! And you complain about the victims? Are you an idiot or an A-hole?

It's such a good thing DumBama and the Democrats changed that, isn't it?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Can you read? Started with Reaganist tax rates DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. And your solution is to live like you're poor LOLOLOLOLOL. Get some rest.

Ah, your typical liberal hypocrite. I see you are still sending your money to the top, aren't cha? I thought you would have signed off and quit giving your money to those evil rich bastards that escape taxes.

So tell me Frankfart, where will you be sending your money to the top tomorrow? Maybe that Microsoft program you always wanted? How about that X-box video game? Maybe you are going to send your money to pay-per-view to see a movie.

 

[Boss]

While I believe some people are poor through no fault of their own; I also note that premarital sex, divorce, free love, drugs, drunken behavior, addiction, laziness, poor study habits, a disrespect for society, shunning the elderly, contempt of authority and neglect of spiritual needs come at a price.

Some people ARE born into poverty through no fault of their own. However, you will find a great many of those stories among the wealthiest people in our country. You see, in OUR country, a person has the freedom to achieve any level of wealth they desire through their ingenuity, talent, skill and hard work. That is not the case in Marxist-Socialist countries and it never will be. In THOSE countries, you are pretty much confined to the class you were born into, through no fault of your own. You're not permitted to achieve wealth status, the State intervenes. Your achievements are exploited and your wealth is confiscated by those in political power... the ruling class elite.

Free market capitalism along with free enterprise and a Constitutional republican government, is responsible for creating more millionaires and billionaires than any system ever created by man. That's something the Marxist-Socialists don't ever want you to realize. It's their death knell.