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Of course, sling a label so you don't have to deal with concepts. Our health"care" system is being adopted nowhere else, for reasons that are intuitively obvious to even the most casual of observers.Ours is a for profit system, that's the point, profit. There is no other goal.
So you work for free?
Of course not, neither do you, you work for the profiteering of the capitalists and in return you are allwed a subsistence existence. You may claim otherwise for yourself, but the reality for most americans is what it is and they are aware. But that's another "debate". Your healthcare system is the shittiest, most expensive and inefficient system in the advanced post-indistrial world. Celebrate the exceptionalism.
1905,1947 and 1964 called, it want's its idiotic commie rhetoric back.
Loan sharking is a for profit business. So is drug dealing. So those are systems we should admire.Ours is a for profit system, that's the point, profit. There is no other goal.
So you work for free?
Of course not, neither do you, you work for the profiteering of the capitalists and in return you are allwed a subsistence existence. You may claim otherwise for yourself, but the reality for most americans is what it is and they are aware. But that's another "debate". Your healthcare system is the shittiest, most expensive and inefficient system in the advanced post-indistrial world. Celebrate the exceptionalism.
1905,1947 and 1964 called, it want's its idiotic commie rhetoric back.
Good thinking, dumbass.
Doctors make good money in these systems that have been running for 50 plus years.I think that Trumpcare virtually guarantees single payer the next time Democrats are in power.
I cannot believe what Americans tolerate in terms of utter bullshit of denial of claims, capped claims, copayments, and pre-approvals, to keep access to substandard overpriced American healthcare for some. But then they believe the lies of the for-profit US insurance and health care system.
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At least here I don't have to wait 6 months or more for elective procedures, or I have to worry about the quality of doctors when I do a bit of research. Sooner or later those single payer government systems are going to have to cut costs to the bone, and when you pay doctors like you pay factory workers, you end up with the system the soviets had.
Do you have anything other than right wing bullshit?
I waited 3 months to get into an ortho to look at my knee. OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG
Loan sharking is a for profit business. So is drug dealing. So those are systems we should admire.Ours is a for profit system, that's the point, profit. There is no other goal.
So you work for free?
Of course not, neither do you, you work for the profiteering of the capitalists and in return you are allwed a subsistence existence. You may claim otherwise for yourself, but the reality for most americans is what it is and they are aware. But that's another "debate". Your healthcare system is the shittiest, most expensive and inefficient system in the advanced post-indistrial world. Celebrate the exceptionalism.
1905,1947 and 1964 called, it want's its idiotic commie rhetoric back.
Good thinking, dumbass.
I think that Trumpcare virtually guarantees single payer the next time Democrats are in power.
I cannot believe what Americans tolerate in terms of utter bullshit of denial of claims, capped claims, copayments, and pre-approvals, to keep access to substandard overpriced American healthcare for some. But then they believe the lies of the for-profit US insurance and health care system.
Sent from my iPhone using USMessageBoard.com
At least here I don't have to wait 6 months or more for elective procedures, or I have to worry about the quality of doctors when I do a bit of research. Sooner or later those single payer government systems are going to have to cut costs to the bone, and when you pay doctors like you pay factory workers, you end up with the system the soviets had.
Bullshit corporate mindfuck propaganda, no one is moving toward our way of doing things. NO ONE.
Of course, sling a label so you don't have to deal with concepts. Our health"care" system is being adopted nowhere else, for reasons that are intuitively obvious to even the most casual of observers.Ours is a for profit system, that's the point, profit. There is no other goal.
So you work for free?
Of course not, neither do you, you work for the profiteering of the capitalists and in return you are allwed a subsistence existence. You may claim otherwise for yourself, but the reality for most americans is what it is and they are aware. But that's another "debate". Your healthcare system is the shittiest, most expensive and inefficient system in the advanced post-indistrial world. Celebrate the exceptionalism.
1905,1947 and 1964 called, it want's its idiotic commie rhetoric back.
Of course, sling a label so you don't have to deal with concepts. Our health"care" system is being adopted nowhere else, for reasons that are intuitively obvious to even the most casual of observers.Ours is a for profit system, that's the point, profit. There is no other goal.
So you work for free?
Of course not, neither do you, you work for the profiteering of the capitalists and in return you are allwed a subsistence existence. You may claim otherwise for yourself, but the reality for most americans is what it is and they are aware. But that's another "debate". Your healthcare system is the shittiest, most expensive and inefficient system in the advanced post-indistrial world. Celebrate the exceptionalism.
1905,1947 and 1964 called, it want's its idiotic commie rhetoric back.
And yet when the wealthy need something done, they come over here.
it's all for the insurance companies?
first congress gave them a huge gift with medicare, these people paid for insurance their whole younger lives, when they were not sick, and then when they reached the age of needing health insurance, the insurance companies were kicking them off their insurance...
govt came in and saved the day by creating medicare, giving insurance companies the biggest gift of a lifetime...making tax payers pay for the elderly's health care
NOW insurance companies have got congress to give them their second biggest gift of a lifetime!
by taking sick people off of their health insurance policies and putting them in a pool of people with preexisting conditions that tax payers once again, have to pay for.....
so, insurance companies no longer have to cover the elderly and now, they no longer have to pay for those sick....
could the golden goose egg for insurance companies get any bigger?
We already pay for the elderly, insurance companies only get in the medicare plus stuff if they want to.
Do you even know what the actual profit margin is for most Insurance companies?
Of course, sling a label so you don't have to deal with concepts. Our health"care" system is being adopted nowhere else, for reasons that are intuitively obvious to even the most casual of observers.So you work for free?
Of course not, neither do you, you work for the profiteering of the capitalists and in return you are allwed a subsistence existence. You may claim otherwise for yourself, but the reality for most americans is what it is and they are aware. But that's another "debate". Your healthcare system is the shittiest, most expensive and inefficient system in the advanced post-indistrial world. Celebrate the exceptionalism.
1905,1947 and 1964 called, it want's its idiotic commie rhetoric back.
And yet when the wealthy need something done, they come over here.
My TV tries to tell me that as well, so then I research and find it's bullshit. You should try it. As for the wealthy, no one ever said america wasn't great for the well to do. But if you had done any research at all you would know healthcare outcomes here trail those of all other advanced post-industrial nations which oddly enough have single payer systems. But you apparently have alternative facts.
it's all for the insurance companies?
first congress gave them a huge gift with medicare, these people paid for insurance their whole younger lives, when they were not sick, and then when they reached the age of needing health insurance, the insurance companies were kicking them off their insurance...
govt came in and saved the day by creating medicare, giving insurance companies the biggest gift of a lifetime...making tax payers pay for the elderly's health care
NOW insurance companies have got congress to give them their second biggest gift of a lifetime!
by taking sick people off of their health insurance policies and putting them in a pool of people with preexisting conditions that tax payers once again, have to pay for.....
so, insurance companies no longer have to cover the elderly and now, they no longer have to pay for those sick....
could the golden goose egg for insurance companies get any bigger?
We already pay for the elderly, insurance companies only get in the medicare plus stuff if they want to.
Do you even know what the actual profit margin is for most Insurance companies?
Stated profit margins in the insurance industry are meaningless. It is a special industry, uses special rules, and gets really special tax treatment. It works like this.
Insurance company takes in one hundred dollars in premium. Pays fifteen dollars for salaries and administration. Pays ten dollars in claims. Sets aside seventy dollars in "loss reserves", and then claims a five percent profit margin. Meanwhile, those "loss reserves" are invested and the income generated remains untaxed as long as it remains in the "loss reserve" fund. Literally TRILLIONS of dollars THAT HAVE NEVER BEEN TAXED, are sitting in loss reserve funds. The shopping mall you shop at, the office building where you work, and even the grocery store building where you purchase your groceries, all are probably held in an insurance company's "loss reserve" fund.
Doctors make good money in these systems that have been running for 50 plus years.I think that Trumpcare virtually guarantees single payer the next time Democrats are in power.
I cannot believe what Americans tolerate in terms of utter bullshit of denial of claims, capped claims, copayments, and pre-approvals, to keep access to substandard overpriced American healthcare for some. But then they believe the lies of the for-profit US insurance and health care system.
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At least here I don't have to wait 6 months or more for elective procedures, or I have to worry about the quality of doctors when I do a bit of research. Sooner or later those single payer government systems are going to have to cut costs to the bone, and when you pay doctors like you pay factory workers, you end up with the system the soviets had.
Do you have anything other than right wing bullshit?
I waited 3 months to get into an ortho to look at my knee. OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG
Do you have numbers to back up yours?
And if it WAS your knee I'm sure you would bitch about it and expect help RIGHT NOW, like the lying sack of shit progressive hypocrite you are.
Doctors make good money in these systems that have been running for 50 plus years.I think that Trumpcare virtually guarantees single payer the next time Democrats are in power.
I cannot believe what Americans tolerate in terms of utter bullshit of denial of claims, capped claims, copayments, and pre-approvals, to keep access to substandard overpriced American healthcare for some. But then they believe the lies of the for-profit US insurance and health care system.
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At least here I don't have to wait 6 months or more for elective procedures, or I have to worry about the quality of doctors when I do a bit of research. Sooner or later those single payer government systems are going to have to cut costs to the bone, and when you pay doctors like you pay factory workers, you end up with the system the soviets had.
Do you have anything other than right wing bullshit?
I waited 3 months to get into an ortho to look at my knee. OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG
Do you have numbers to back up yours?
And if it WAS your knee I'm sure you would bitch about it and expect help RIGHT NOW, like the lying sack of shit progressive hypocrite you are.
You had no numbers. Not surprising.
UK Primary care docs average about $150K where the ave about $170k in the US.
My knew was painful but not an urgent need. I had to wait several months. Kind of like you were having a fit about.
Whereas we've only been sucking off our "job creator" class for 225 years?I think that Trumpcare virtually guarantees single payer the next time Democrats are in power.
I cannot believe what Americans tolerate in terms of utter bullshit of denial of claims, capped claims, copayments, and pre-approvals, to keep access to substandard overpriced American healthcare for some. But then they believe the lies of the for-profit US insurance and health care system.
Sent from my iPhone using USMessageBoard.com
At least here I don't have to wait 6 months or more for elective procedures, or I have to worry about the quality of doctors when I do a bit of research. Sooner or later those single payer government systems are going to have to cut costs to the bone, and when you pay doctors like you pay factory workers, you end up with the system the soviets had.
Bullshit corporate mindfuck propaganda, no one is moving toward our way of doing things. NO ONE.
because Europe and most of the rest of the world is full of the feudal mindset lemmings that didn't risk life and limb to come over to the US. They have been sucking government dick for over a millennia.
Whereas we've only been sucking off our "job creator" class for 225 years?I think that Trumpcare virtually guarantees single payer the next time Democrats are in power.
I cannot believe what Americans tolerate in terms of utter bullshit of denial of claims, capped claims, copayments, and pre-approvals, to keep access to substandard overpriced American healthcare for some. But then they believe the lies of the for-profit US insurance and health care system.
Sent from my iPhone using USMessageBoard.com
At least here I don't have to wait 6 months or more for elective procedures, or I have to worry about the quality of doctors when I do a bit of research. Sooner or later those single payer government systems are going to have to cut costs to the bone, and when you pay doctors like you pay factory workers, you end up with the system the soviets had.
Bullshit corporate mindfuck propaganda, no one is moving toward our way of doing things. NO ONE.
because Europe and most of the rest of the world is full of the feudal mindset lemmings that didn't risk life and limb to come over to the US. They have been sucking government dick for over a millennia.
Whereas we've only been sucking off our "job creator" class for 225 years?I think that Trumpcare virtually guarantees single payer the next time Democrats are in power.
I cannot believe what Americans tolerate in terms of utter bullshit of denial of claims, capped claims, copayments, and pre-approvals, to keep access to substandard overpriced American healthcare for some. But then they believe the lies of the for-profit US insurance and health care system.
Sent from my iPhone using USMessageBoard.com
At least here I don't have to wait 6 months or more for elective procedures, or I have to worry about the quality of doctors when I do a bit of research. Sooner or later those single payer government systems are going to have to cut costs to the bone, and when you pay doctors like you pay factory workers, you end up with the system the soviets had.
Bullshit corporate mindfuck propaganda, no one is moving toward our way of doing things. NO ONE.
because Europe and most of the rest of the world is full of the feudal mindset lemmings that didn't risk life and limb to come over to the US. They have been sucking government dick for over a millennia.
Read my signature quote for my view on the capital class vs. the annoying government do-gooder class.
I'd rather deal with a 1000 greedy assholes than 1 person on power who thinks they know what's best for me.
You ignore proof you don't like.it's all for the insurance companies?
first congress gave them a huge gift with medicare, these people paid for insurance their whole younger lives, when they were not sick, and then when they reached the age of needing health insurance, the insurance companies were kicking them off their insurance...
govt came in and saved the day by creating medicare, giving insurance companies the biggest gift of a lifetime...making tax payers pay for the elderly's health care
NOW insurance companies have got congress to give them their second biggest gift of a lifetime!
by taking sick people off of their health insurance policies and putting them in a pool of people with preexisting conditions that tax payers once again, have to pay for.....
so, insurance companies no longer have to cover the elderly and now, they no longer have to pay for those sick....
could the golden goose egg for insurance companies get any bigger?
We already pay for the elderly, insurance companies only get in the medicare plus stuff if they want to.
Do you even know what the actual profit margin is for most Insurance companies?
Stated profit margins in the insurance industry are meaningless. It is a special industry, uses special rules, and gets really special tax treatment. It works like this.
Insurance company takes in one hundred dollars in premium. Pays fifteen dollars for salaries and administration. Pays ten dollars in claims. Sets aside seventy dollars in "loss reserves", and then claims a five percent profit margin. Meanwhile, those "loss reserves" are invested and the income generated remains untaxed as long as it remains in the "loss reserve" fund. Literally TRILLIONS of dollars THAT HAVE NEVER BEEN TAXED, are sitting in loss reserve funds. The shopping mall you shop at, the office building where you work, and even the grocery store building where you purchase your groceries, all are probably held in an insurance company's "loss reserve" fund.
And of course you have proof of all this, right?
Whereas we've only been sucking off our "job creator" class for 225 years?At least here I don't have to wait 6 months or more for elective procedures, or I have to worry about the quality of doctors when I do a bit of research. Sooner or later those single payer government systems are going to have to cut costs to the bone, and when you pay doctors like you pay factory workers, you end up with the system the soviets had.
Bullshit corporate mindfuck propaganda, no one is moving toward our way of doing things. NO ONE.
because Europe and most of the rest of the world is full of the feudal mindset lemmings that didn't risk life and limb to come over to the US. They have been sucking government dick for over a millennia.
Read my signature quote for my view on the capital class vs. the annoying government do-gooder class.
I'd rather deal with a 1000 greedy assholes than 1 person on power who thinks they know what's best for me.
Those greedy assholes are convinced they know what's best for you son, that's why you bailed them out under both "conservative" and "liberal" administrations. And that's why Goldman Sachs runs your whote house and your economy regardless of who you vote for.
And about your health"care" system you porr rube:
New York, N.Y., October 8, 2015 — The U.S. spent more per person on health care than 12 other high-income nations in 2013, while seeing the lowest life expectancy and some of the worst health outcomes among this group, according to a Commonwealth Fund report out today. The analysis shows that in the U.S., which spent an average of $9,086 per person annually, life expectancy was 78.8 years. Switzerland, the second-highest-spending country, spent $6,325 per person and had a life expectancy of 82.9 years. Mortality rates for cancer were among the lowest in the U.S., but rates of chronic conditions, obesity, and infant mortality were higher than those abroad.
“Time and again, we see evidence that the amount of money we spend on health care in this country is not gaining us comparable health benefits,” said Commonwealth Fund President David Blumenthal, M.D. “We have to look at the root causes of this disconnect and invest our health care dollars in ways that will allow us to live longer while enjoying better health and greater productivity.”
U.S. Spends More on Health Care Than Other High-Income Nations But Has Lower Life Expectancy, Worse Health
U.S. Healthcare Ranked Dead Last Compared To 10 Other Countries
U.S. Healthcare Ranked Dead Last Compared To 10 Other Countries
Major Findings
· Quality: The indicators of quality were grouped into four categories: effective care, safe care, coordinated care, and patient-centered care. Compared with the other 10 countries, the U.S. fares best on provision and receipt of preventive and patient-centered care. While there has been some improvement in recent years, lower scores on safe and coordinated care pull the overall U.S. quality score down. Continued adoption of health information technology should enhance the ability of U.S. physicians to identify, monitor, and coordinate care for their patients, particularly those with chronic conditions.
· Access: Not surprisingly—given the absence of universal coverage—people in the U.S. go without needed health care because of cost more often than people do in the other countries. Americans were the most likely to say they had access problems related to cost. Patients in the U.S. have rapid access to specialized health care services; however, they are less likely to report rapid access to primary care than people in leading countries in the study. In other countries, like Canada, patients have little to no financial burden, but experience wait times for such specialized services. There is a frequent misperception that trade-offs between universal coverage and timely access to specialized services are inevitable; however, the Netherlands, U.K., and Germany provide universal coverage with low out-of-pocket costs while maintaining quick access to specialty services.
· Efficiency: On indicators of efficiency, the U.S. ranks last among the 11 countries, with the U.K. and Sweden ranking first and second, respectively. The U.S. has poor performance on measures of national health expenditures and administrative costs as well as on measures of administrative hassles, avoidable emergency room use, and duplicative medical testing. Sicker survey respondents in the U.K. and France are less likely to visit the emergency room for a condition that could have been treated by a regular doctor, had one been available.
· Equity: The U.S. ranks a clear last on measures of equity. Americans with below-average incomes were much more likely than their counterparts in other countries to report not visiting a physician when sick; not getting a recommended test, treatment, or follow-up care; or not filling a prescription or skipping doses when needed because of costs. On each of these indicators, one-third or more lower-income adults in the U.S. said they went without needed care because of costs in the past year.
· Healthy lives: The U.S. ranks last overall with poor scores on all three indicators of healthy lives—mortality amenable to medical care, infant mortality, and healthy life expectancy at age 60. The U.S. and U.K. had much higher death rates in 2007 from conditions amenable to medical care than some of the other countries, e.g., rates 25 percent to 50 percent higher than Australia and Sweden. Overall, France, Sweden, and Switzerland rank highest on healthy lives.
Mirror, Mirror on the Wall, 2014 Update: How the U.S. Health Care System Compares Internationally
No other advanced country even comes close to the United States in annual spending on health care, but plenty of those other countries see much better outcomes in their citizens' actual health overall.
A new Commonwealth Fund report released Thursday underscored that point — yet again — with an analysis that ranks 13 high-income nations on their overall health spending, use of medical services, prices and health outcomes.
The study data, which is from 2013, predates the full implementation of Obamacare, which took place in 2014. Obamacare is designed to increase health coverage for Americans and stem the rise in health-care costs.
The findings indicate that despite spending well in excess of the rate of any other of those countries in 2013, the United States achieved worse outcomes when it comes to rates of chronic conditions, obesity and infant mortality.
One rare bright spot for the U.S., however, is that its mortality rate for cancer is among the lowest out of the 13 countries, and that cancer rates fell faster between 1995 and 2007 than in other countries.
"Time and again, we see evidence that the amount of money we spend on health care in this country is not gaining us comparable health benefits," said Dr. David Blumenthal, president of the Commonwealth Fund. "We have to look at the root causes of this disconnect and invest our health-care dollars in ways that will allow us to live longer while enjoying better health and greater productivity."
US health care: Spending a lot, getting the least
Ranking 37th — Measuring the Performance of the U.S. Health Care System
MMS: Error
Health Care Outcomes in States Influenced by Coverage, Disparities
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-st...-in-states-influenced-by-coverage-disparities
One explanation for the health disadvantage of the United States relative to other high-income countries might be deficiencies in health services. Although the United States is renowned for its leadership in biomedical research, its cutting-edge medical technology, and its hospitals and specialists, problems with ensuring Americans’ access to the system and providing quality care have been a long-standing concern of policy makers and the public (Berwick et al., 2008; Brook, 2011b; Fineberg, 2012). Higher mortality rates from diseases, and even from transportation-related injuries and homicides, may be traceable in part to failings in the health care system.
The United States stands out from many other countries in not offering universal health insurance coverage. In 2010, 50 million people (16 percent of the U.S. population) were uninsured (DeNavas-Walt et al., 2011). Access to health care services, particularly in rural and frontier communities or disadvantaged urban centers, is often limited. The United States has a relatively weak foundation for primary care and a shortage of family physicians (American Academy of Family Physicians, 2009; Grumbach et al., 2009; Macinko et al., 2007; Sandy et al., 2009). Many Americans rely on emergency departments for acute, chronic, and even preventive care (Institute of Medicine, 2007a; Schoen et al., 2009b, 2011). Cost sharing is common in the United States, and high out-of-pocket expenses make health care services, pharmaceuticals, and medical supplies increasingly unaffordable (Commonwealth Fund Commission on a High Performance System, 2011; Karaca-Mandic et al., 2012). In 2011, one-third of American households reported problems paying medical bills (Cohen et al., 2012), a problem that seems to have worsened in recent years (Himmelstein et al., 2009). Health insurance premiums are consuming an increasing proportion of U.S. household income (Commonwealth Fund Commission on a High Performance System, 2011).
Public Health and Medical Care Systems - U.S. Health in International Perspective - NCBI Bookshelf
Once again, U.S. has most expensive, least effective health care system in survey
A report released Monday by a respected think tank ranks the United States dead last in the quality of its health-care system when compared with 10 other western, industrialized nations, the same spot it occupied in four previous studies by the same organization. Not only did the U.S. fail to move up between 2004 and 2014 -- as other nations did with concerted effort and significant reforms -- it also has maintained this dubious distinction while spending far more per capita ($8,508) on health care than Norway ($5,669), which has the second most expensive system.
"Although the U.S. spends more on health care than any other country and has the highest proportion of specialist physicians, survey findings indicate that from the patients’ perspective, and based on outcome indicators, the performance of American health care is severely lacking," the Commonwealth Fund, a New York-based foundation that promotes improved health care, concluded in its extensive analysis. The charts in this post are from the report.
Once again, U.S. has most expensive, least effective health care system in survey
US healthcare system ranks 50th out of 55 countries for efficiency
US healthcare system ranks 50th out of 55 countries for efficiency
he U.S. healthcare system notched another dubious honor in a new comparison of its quality to the systems of 10 other developed countries: its rank was dead last.
The new study by the Commonwealth Fund ranks the U.S. against seven wealthy European countries and Canada, Australia and New Zealand. It's a follow-up of previous surveys published in 2010, 2007, 2006 and 2004, in all of which the U.S. also ranked last.
Although the U.S. ranked in the middle of the pack on measures of effectiveness, safety and coordination of care, it ranked dead last on access and cost, by a sufficient margin to rank dead last overall. The breakdowns are in the chart above.
Conservative pundits hastened to explain away these results after the report was published. See Aaron Carroll for a gloss on the "zombie arguments" put forth against the clear evidence that the U.S. system falls short.
The U.S. healthcare system: worst in the developed world
U.S. Health Care Ranked Worst in the Developed World
U.S. Health Care Ranked Worst in the Developed World
You ignore proof you don't like.it's all for the insurance companies?
first congress gave them a huge gift with medicare, these people paid for insurance their whole younger lives, when they were not sick, and then when they reached the age of needing health insurance, the insurance companies were kicking them off their insurance...
govt came in and saved the day by creating medicare, giving insurance companies the biggest gift of a lifetime...making tax payers pay for the elderly's health care
NOW insurance companies have got congress to give them their second biggest gift of a lifetime!
by taking sick people off of their health insurance policies and putting them in a pool of people with preexisting conditions that tax payers once again, have to pay for.....
so, insurance companies no longer have to cover the elderly and now, they no longer have to pay for those sick....
could the golden goose egg for insurance companies get any bigger?
We already pay for the elderly, insurance companies only get in the medicare plus stuff if they want to.
Do you even know what the actual profit margin is for most Insurance companies?
Stated profit margins in the insurance industry are meaningless. It is a special industry, uses special rules, and gets really special tax treatment. It works like this.
Insurance company takes in one hundred dollars in premium. Pays fifteen dollars for salaries and administration. Pays ten dollars in claims. Sets aside seventy dollars in "loss reserves", and then claims a five percent profit margin. Meanwhile, those "loss reserves" are invested and the income generated remains untaxed as long as it remains in the "loss reserve" fund. Literally TRILLIONS of dollars THAT HAVE NEVER BEEN TAXED, are sitting in loss reserve funds. The shopping mall you shop at, the office building where you work, and even the grocery store building where you purchase your groceries, all are probably held in an insurance company's "loss reserve" fund.
And of course you have proof of all this, right?
it's all for the insurance companies?
first congress gave them a huge gift with medicare, these people paid for insurance their whole younger lives, when they were not sick, and then when they reached the age of needing health insurance, the insurance companies were kicking them off their insurance...
govt came in and saved the day by creating medicare, giving insurance companies the biggest gift of a lifetime...making tax payers pay for the elderly's health care
NOW insurance companies have got congress to give them their second biggest gift of a lifetime!
by taking sick people off of their health insurance policies and putting them in a pool of people with preexisting conditions that tax payers once again, have to pay for.....
so, insurance companies no longer have to cover the elderly and now, they no longer have to pay for those sick....
could the golden goose egg for insurance companies get any bigger?
We already pay for the elderly, insurance companies only get in the medicare plus stuff if they want to.
Do you even know what the actual profit margin is for most Insurance companies?
Stated profit margins in the insurance industry are meaningless. It is a special industry, uses special rules, and gets really special tax treatment. It works like this.
Insurance company takes in one hundred dollars in premium. Pays fifteen dollars for salaries and administration. Pays ten dollars in claims. Sets aside seventy dollars in "loss reserves", and then claims a five percent profit margin. Meanwhile, those "loss reserves" are invested and the income generated remains untaxed as long as it remains in the "loss reserve" fund. Literally TRILLIONS of dollars THAT HAVE NEVER BEEN TAXED, are sitting in loss reserve funds. The shopping mall you shop at, the office building where you work, and even the grocery store building where you purchase your groceries, all are probably held in an insurance company's "loss reserve" fund.
And of course you have proof of all this, right?
