Why do democrats want more people on foodstamps and welfare

[danielpalos]

Equal protection of the law is a function of government. And, it would be business that pays it, not You.

Bottom line, you want to be paid but not work. That is immoral. Only the immoral left wing, never gets it. They cannot be trusted with power.

Capitalism has a Natural Rate of Unemployment; I am merely, naturally unemployed. Only the right wing, never has any solutions.

What is the left wing solution?


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Bearing True Witness to the legal concept of employment at will, simply for the sake of public morals.

So like the right wing, the left wing has no real answers, just cliches, thank you for posting what we all already knew, no solutions, just empty words.

Don't believe in public morals, either right wingers.

 

[danielpalos]

No, we don't. As usual, you don't know what you are talking about.

We could end homelessness, by solving for simple poverty.

Not that easy, you think that every homeless person wants a home? They have mental not monetary issue and if you don’t solve that, you won’t solve poverty. The poverty issue is not that easy to solve and your idea of paying people to sit home and do nothing would not solve poverty because your proposal is unsustainable.

Anyone who can't apply for unemployment should go on welfare. That is how much we could be saving. Not everyone needs to be on welfare if they could just go on unemployment.

Give me $ amounts, whether on welfare or unemployment it is going to cost $9 trillion each and every year. We are currently collecting under $3 trillion a year.

So where do you collect the extra $6 plus trillion?

The equivalent to fourteen dollars an hour. The minimum wage should be fifteen dollars an hour. And, we could end our alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror that the right wing also refuses to pay for with higher taxes.

The tax rate would have to be over 90% for every working person, then you would still be short a few trillion. Now, how are you going to make up another 3 trillion?

No, it wouldn't. It would be less expensive than what we have now. Simplification is the answer.

 

[Papageorgio]

Not that easy, you think that every homeless person wants a home? They have mental not monetary issue and if you don’t solve that, you won’t solve poverty. The poverty issue is not that easy to solve and your idea of paying people to sit home and do nothing would not solve poverty because your proposal is unsustainable.

Anyone who can't apply for unemployment should go on welfare. That is how much we could be saving. Not everyone needs to be on welfare if they could just go on unemployment.

Give me $ amounts, whether on welfare or unemployment it is going to cost $9 trillion each and every year. We are currently collecting under $3 trillion a year.

So where do you collect the extra $6 plus trillion?

The equivalent to fourteen dollars an hour. The minimum wage should be fifteen dollars an hour. And, we could end our alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror that the right wing also refuses to pay for with higher taxes.

The tax rate would have to be over 90% for every working person, then you would still be short a few trillion. Now, how are you going to make up another 3 trillion?

No, it wouldn't. It would be less expensive than what we have now. Simplification is the answer.

Your math doesn’t add up, sorry but the facts are that it would cost over $9 trillion a year, what do you estimate the cost to be and why? They way you have it, I’d have to make $140 an hour at a 90% tax rate to make it worth my while to work, since I’ll get $14 an hour if I don’t. With your idea, you would shut the economy down because working people would make less.

Let’s see you numbers.

 

[Papageorgio]

Bottom line, you want to be paid but not work. That is immoral. Only the immoral left wing, never gets it. They cannot be trusted with power.

Capitalism has a Natural Rate of Unemployment; I am merely, naturally unemployed. Only the right wing, never has any solutions.

What is the left wing solution?


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Bearing True Witness to the legal concept of employment at will, simply for the sake of public morals.

So like the right wing, the left wing has no real answers, just cliches, thank you for posting what we all already knew, no solutions, just empty words.

Don't believe in public morals, either right wingers.

Public morals have nothing to do with your not bringing a solution to the table.

What is the left wing solution?

 

[danielpalos]

Anyone who can't apply for unemployment should go on welfare. That is how much we could be saving. Not everyone needs to be on welfare if they could just go on unemployment.

Give me $ amounts, whether on welfare or unemployment it is going to cost $9 trillion each and every year. We are currently collecting under $3 trillion a year.

So where do you collect the extra $6 plus trillion?

The equivalent to fourteen dollars an hour. The minimum wage should be fifteen dollars an hour. And, we could end our alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror that the right wing also refuses to pay for with higher taxes.

The tax rate would have to be over 90% for every working person, then you would still be short a few trillion. Now, how are you going to make up another 3 trillion?

No, it wouldn't. It would be less expensive than what we have now. Simplification is the answer.

Your math doesn’t add up, sorry but the facts are that it would cost over $9 trillion a year, what do you estimate the cost to be and why? They way you have it, I’d have to make $140 an hour at a 90% tax rate to make it worth my while to work, since I’ll get $14 an hour if I don’t. With your idea, you would shut the economy down because working people would make less.

Let’s see you numbers.

Why do you believe that? Unemployment should go down with a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage. And, unemployment compensation engenders a positive multiplier effect on our economy and general welfare; unlike the general warfare.

Automatic Stabilizer

Thus, solving for simple poverty at the rock bottom cost of a form of minimum wage will improve the efficiency of our economy for healthcare reform via market friendly means.

 

[Papageorgio]

Give me $ amounts, whether on welfare or unemployment it is going to cost $9 trillion each and every year. We are currently collecting under $3 trillion a year.

So where do you collect the extra $6 plus trillion?

The equivalent to fourteen dollars an hour. The minimum wage should be fifteen dollars an hour. And, we could end our alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror that the right wing also refuses to pay for with higher taxes.

The tax rate would have to be over 90% for every working person, then you would still be short a few trillion. Now, how are you going to make up another 3 trillion?

No, it wouldn't. It would be less expensive than what we have now. Simplification is the answer.

Your math doesn’t add up, sorry but the facts are that it would cost over $9 trillion a year, what do you estimate the cost to be and why? They way you have it, I’d have to make $140 an hour at a 90% tax rate to make it worth my while to work, since I’ll get $14 an hour if I don’t. With your idea, you would shut the economy down because working people would make less.

Let’s see you numbers.

Why do you believe that? Unemployment should go down with a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage. And, unemployment compensation engenders a positive multiplier effect on our economy and general welfare; unlike the general warfare.

Automatic Stabilizer

Thus, solving for simple poverty at the rock bottom cost of a form of minimum wage will improve the efficiency of our economy for healthcare reform via market friendly means.

The numbers don’t add up, you can claim what you want but I’m showing a $9 trillion program. Show me your numbers.

 

[danielpalos]

Capitalism has a Natural Rate of Unemployment; I am merely, naturally unemployed. Only the right wing, never has any solutions.

What is the left wing solution?


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Bearing True Witness to the legal concept of employment at will, simply for the sake of public morals.

So like the right wing, the left wing has no real answers, just cliches, thank you for posting what we all already knew, no solutions, just empty words.

Don't believe in public morals, either right wingers.

Public morals have nothing to do with your not bringing a solution to the table.

What is the left wing solution?

Solving simple poverty on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States.

 

[danielpalos]

The equivalent to fourteen dollars an hour. The minimum wage should be fifteen dollars an hour. And, we could end our alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror that the right wing also refuses to pay for with higher taxes.

The tax rate would have to be over 90% for every working person, then you would still be short a few trillion. Now, how are you going to make up another 3 trillion?

No, it wouldn't. It would be less expensive than what we have now. Simplification is the answer.

Your math doesn’t add up, sorry but the facts are that it would cost over $9 trillion a year, what do you estimate the cost to be and why? They way you have it, I’d have to make $140 an hour at a 90% tax rate to make it worth my while to work, since I’ll get $14 an hour if I don’t. With your idea, you would shut the economy down because working people would make less.

Let’s see you numbers.

Why do you believe that? Unemployment should go down with a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage. And, unemployment compensation engenders a positive multiplier effect on our economy and general welfare; unlike the general warfare.

Automatic Stabilizer

Thus, solving for simple poverty at the rock bottom cost of a form of minimum wage will improve the efficiency of our economy for healthcare reform via market friendly means.

The numbers don’t add up, you can claim what you want but I’m showing a $9 trillion program. Show me your numbers.

Let's assume around twenty-eight thousand per person per year who applies for unemployment compensation.

Why do you believe we would be worse off; with more people spending more money for goods and services?

Automatic Stabilizer

 

[Papageorgio]

What is the left wing solution?


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Bearing True Witness to the legal concept of employment at will, simply for the sake of public morals.

So like the right wing, the left wing has no real answers, just cliches, thank you for posting what we all already knew, no solutions, just empty words.

Don't believe in public morals, either right wingers.

Public morals have nothing to do with your not bringing a solution to the table.

What is the left wing solution?

Solving simple poverty on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States.

So far you have proven you have no answer for that idea.

 

[Papageorgio]

The tax rate would have to be over 90% for every working person, then you would still be short a few trillion. Now, how are you going to make up another 3 trillion?

No, it wouldn't. It would be less expensive than what we have now. Simplification is the answer.

Your math doesn’t add up, sorry but the facts are that it would cost over $9 trillion a year, what do you estimate the cost to be and why? They way you have it, I’d have to make $140 an hour at a 90% tax rate to make it worth my while to work, since I’ll get $14 an hour if I don’t. With your idea, you would shut the economy down because working people would make less.

Let’s see you numbers.

Why do you believe that? Unemployment should go down with a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage. And, unemployment compensation engenders a positive multiplier effect on our economy and general welfare; unlike the general warfare.

Automatic Stabilizer

Thus, solving for simple poverty at the rock bottom cost of a form of minimum wage will improve the efficiency of our economy for healthcare reform via market friendly means.

The numbers don’t add up, you can claim what you want but I’m showing a $9 trillion program. Show me your numbers.

Let's assume around twenty-eight thousand per person per year who applies for unemployment compensation.

Why do you believe we would be worse off; with more people spending more money for goods and services?

Automatic Stabilizer

Again, where does $9 trillion in spending come from? Higher taxes? Then you tax rate for all workers would need to be 90%, at a 90% tax rate, anyone making less than $140 an hour would be losing money.

Do you have real numbers to go with your scenario? My numbers maybe off but I wouldn’t know since your plan is vague and now looks totally cost prohibitive.

 

[danielpalos]

Bearing True Witness to the legal concept of employment at will, simply for the sake of public morals.

So like the right wing, the left wing has no real answers, just cliches, thank you for posting what we all already knew, no solutions, just empty words.

Don't believe in public morals, either right wingers.

Public morals have nothing to do with your not bringing a solution to the table.

What is the left wing solution?

Solving simple poverty on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States.

So far you have proven you have no answer for that idea.

It would be as simple as the concept of employment at will can make it. Simplification.

 

[danielpalos]

No, it wouldn't. It would be less expensive than what we have now. Simplification is the answer.

Your math doesn’t add up, sorry but the facts are that it would cost over $9 trillion a year, what do you estimate the cost to be and why? They way you have it, I’d have to make $140 an hour at a 90% tax rate to make it worth my while to work, since I’ll get $14 an hour if I don’t. With your idea, you would shut the economy down because working people would make less.

Let’s see you numbers.

Why do you believe that? Unemployment should go down with a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage. And, unemployment compensation engenders a positive multiplier effect on our economy and general welfare; unlike the general warfare.

Automatic Stabilizer

Thus, solving for simple poverty at the rock bottom cost of a form of minimum wage will improve the efficiency of our economy for healthcare reform via market friendly means.

The numbers don’t add up, you can claim what you want but I’m showing a $9 trillion program. Show me your numbers.

Let's assume around twenty-eight thousand per person per year who applies for unemployment compensation.

Why do you believe we would be worse off; with more people spending more money for goods and services?

Automatic Stabilizer

Again, where does $9 trillion in spending come from? Higher taxes? Then you tax rate for all workers would need to be 90%, at a 90% tax rate, anyone making less than $140 an hour would be losing money.

Do you have real numbers to go with your scenario? My numbers maybe off but I wouldn’t know since your plan is vague and now looks totally cost prohibitive.

It wouldn't be new spending; it would be doing more with less. Unemployment compensation is much more cost effective than Any form of means tested welfare.

 

[hadit]

Actually, it is the fruit of my labor. Every dollar I pay in taxes I earned first. What, did you think government earned money somehow? Everything it has it took from people who earned it.

Equal protection of the law is a function of government. And, it would be business that pays it, not You.

Bottom line, you want to be paid but not work. That is immoral. Only the immoral left wing, never gets it. They cannot be trusted with power.

Capitalism has a Natural Rate of Unemployment; I am merely, naturally unemployed. Only the right wing, never has any solutions.

That can only be true if you are disabled or if you are hunting for a job but cannot find one. If neither of those are true, you're twisting words to mean things they don't mean, aka lying.

Nope; capitalism has a natural rate of unemployment.

In other words, you have no solutions. Just admit it.

And if you can support yourself but refuse to do so, it is not society's responsibility to pay you. That's the bottom line.

 

[hadit]

We already have equal protection under the law. Have you forgotten already how thoroughly I drubbed you on the subject?

No, we don't. As usual, you don't know what you are talking about.

We could end homelessness, by solving for simple poverty.

Yes, you've forgotten, or more likely, are just repeating the same failed set of platitudes that have been destroyed so completely.

Only capital is required under capitalism. The right wing simply doesn't understand economics.

Another failed platitude. Making my case for me. At this stage, you will spout off a few more of them with no attempt to even make them relevant, then disappear for a while, only to pop up again with the exact same list.

The right wing really is clueless and Causeless about economics.

Like I said....

 

[hadit]

Actually, it is the fruit of my labor. Every dollar I pay in taxes I earned first. What, did you think government earned money somehow? Everything it has it took from people who earned it.

Equal protection of the law is a function of government. And, it would be business that pays it, not You.

If I was a business and had to pay $14 per hour to everyone I didn’t hire, I’d hire them and pay them $15 to scrub every inch of my business everyday until they quit. That would free me up from lazy people.

it should be a general tax. now, you have to create an account everyone you employ. moving from a direct tax to a general tax will be simpler.

IOW, you want the employer to pay you without you being required to provide him any value for doing so.

Solving for Capitalism's natural rate of unemployment in a market friendly manner.

You're not solving anything.

 

[danielpalos]

Equal protection of the law is a function of government. And, it would be business that pays it, not You.

Bottom line, you want to be paid but not work. That is immoral. Only the immoral left wing, never gets it. They cannot be trusted with power.

Capitalism has a Natural Rate of Unemployment; I am merely, naturally unemployed. Only the right wing, never has any solutions.

That can only be true if you are disabled or if you are hunting for a job but cannot find one. If neither of those are true, you're twisting words to mean things they don't mean, aka lying.

Nope; capitalism has a natural rate of unemployment.

In other words, you have no solutions. Just admit it.

And if you can support yourself but refuse to do so, it is not society's responsibility to pay you. That's the bottom line.

It is about actually solving socioeconomic problems not just being all talk and no action, right wingers.

 

[hadit]

There is nothing in the law that requires others to give you what you are not willing to work for yourself.

How do you make the jump to bigotry or is that the buzz word you have been trained to mislead with?

It has to do with equal protection of the law. Only the right wing, has a problem with it. Bigotry?

I have no issue with it when applied in the context of the Constitution. You are misapplying it.

There is no misapplying, equal protection of the law regarding the legal concept of employment at the will of either party not just the employer.

There is, however, complete and total blargling of the idea behind the law. At will doesn't mean that you get to claim unemployment if you didn't work in the first place.

employment is at the will of either party. what part of that law, do you not get?

It means either one of you can terminate the job. You can leave whenever you want and they can fire you whenever they want. Will you ever get that through your head?

 

[danielpalos]

Equal protection of the law is a function of government. And, it would be business that pays it, not You.

If I was a business and had to pay $14 per hour to everyone I didn’t hire, I’d hire them and pay them $15 to scrub every inch of my business everyday until they quit. That would free me up from lazy people.

it should be a general tax. now, you have to create an account everyone you employ. moving from a direct tax to a general tax will be simpler.

IOW, you want the employer to pay you without you being required to provide him any value for doing so.

Solving for Capitalism's natural rate of unemployment in a market friendly manner.

You're not solving anything.

Yes, it does. Nothing but repeal solves less.

 

[danielpalos]

It has to do with equal protection of the law. Only the right wing, has a problem with it. Bigotry?

I have no issue with it when applied in the context of the Constitution. You are misapplying it.

There is no misapplying, equal protection of the law regarding the legal concept of employment at the will of either party not just the employer.

There is, however, complete and total blargling of the idea behind the law. At will doesn't mean that you get to claim unemployment if you didn't work in the first place.

employment is at the will of either party. what part of that law, do you not get?

It means either one of you can terminate the job. You can leave whenever you want and they can fire you whenever they want. Will you ever get that through your head?

It means you should be able to quit and collect unemployment compensation.

 

[hadit]

I have no issue with it when applied in the context of the Constitution. You are misapplying it.

There is no misapplying, equal protection of the law regarding the legal concept of employment at the will of either party not just the employer.

There is, however, complete and total blargling of the idea behind the law. At will doesn't mean that you get to claim unemployment if you didn't work in the first place.

employment is at the will of either party. what part of that law, do you not get?

It means either one of you can terminate the job. You can leave whenever you want and they can fire you whenever they want. Will you ever get that through your head?

It means you should be able to quit and collect unemployment compensation.

No. UE is for when you lose your job through no fault of your own. You can quit any time you like, and you don't have to go back to work, but you don't have the right to the fruit of others' labor just because you don't want to work.