Why Do You Love The Communists?

[PoliticalChic]

Christian dominionism is where everything begins with PC.

When she attacks her opponent personally is always the signal that she has surrendered.

Personal attacks seem to be her first resort. I usually don't respond to her crazy itemized screeds because it takes a lot of time and effort and she just replies with a personal insult or one liner anyway.

Well....I am really good at it....

...but you make it obligatory.

 

[PoliticalChic]

clowns love commies cause they DREAM of becoming the new "elite", not having to work, just give orders, kill off their enemies, etc. NOBODY wants to be the 99+% who have a horrible life under communism. 10-20% have a bad life under capistaliam (in the US, at least) but everyone else has it pretty nice

The author of this thread doesn't work.

lolol

Of course I do.

Samizdat.


Get the dictionary.

 

[PoliticalChic]

How does this at all "prove" that liberals love communists?

Second of all why the fuck does it matter? Lenin himself said that communism can't exist unless a society is an advanced capitalist society. Soviet Russia wasn't communist, they were state capitalist.

Regardless of what you think of communism, it's literally impossible for it to work today. Or in our lifetime. Or our kids lifetime, maybe even their lifetime.

Here's why it matters, you moron:

"We must rid ourselves once and for all of the Quaker-Papist babble about the sanctity of human life."
Leon Trotsky

 

[NYcarbineer]

clowns love commies cause they DREAM of becoming the new "elite", not having to work, just give orders, kill off their enemies, etc. NOBODY wants to be the 99+% who have a horrible life under communism. 10-20% have a bad life under capistaliam (in the US, at least) but everyone else has it pretty nice

The author of this thread doesn't work.

lolol

Of course I do.

Samizdat.


Get the dictionary.

Supervising the duties of your housekeeper Lupe and your houseboy Dong does not equate to a job.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

"Why Do You Love The Communists?"

Why do all of the OP's threads fail as loaded questions fallacies, straw man fallacies, and composition fallacies.

dear, Obama had 3 communist parents, loved Rev. Wright and Frank Marshall Davis( Communist Party no.3467789) and voted to left of Bernie Sanders. Is that a fallacy??

Liberals are in effect spies who are either communists or too stupid to know they are being used by communists.

Why do you call everyone dear? It sounds sort of gay. Are you a pole smoker?

Sock account sez wha?

 

[hazlnut]

Polichick... you and Sam Cooke

 

[PoliticalChic]

OP- Where do you get that? Not since 1935 anyway.

You're such a dope.
Almost every aim of the CPUSA is part of the Liberal/Democrat vision for America.


1. Government control of private sector activity...is aptly described as Bolshevik- or Marxist, socialist, collectivist, statist, or, for that matter, fascist, too. Indeed, nationalized health care was one of the first programs enacted by the Bolsheviks after they seized power in 1917 (Banks, insurance companies and means of communications were also taken over by Soviet authorities immediately. Dziewanowski, "A History of Soviet Russia," p. 107.

2. Obama wasn't the first Bolshevik to support socialized medicine. For context, there was Henry Sigerist: "He devoted himself to the study of history of medicine.Socialized Medicine in the Soviet Union(1937), andHistory of Medicinewere among his most important works. He emerged as a major spokesman for "compulsory health insurance". ...He attacked theAmerican Medical Associationbecause of his conflicting views onsocialized medicine." Henry E. Sigerist - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

a. And, Sigerist was one of the apologists for Stalin, including his state-engineered famine in the Ukraine. 7 million perished (The History Place - Genocide in the 20th Century Stalin s Forced Famine 1932-33).

b. Sigerist "shared with the architects of Soviet health policy under Stalin an outlook best described as medical totalitarianism. He really believed that humanity would be better off if every individual were under the medical supervision of the state from cradle to grave....[and] Sigerist's belief in the necessity for state control over all aspects of medicine ultimately made him an apologist for state control over most aspects of human life." Fee and Brown, eds. "Making Medical History: The Life and Times of Henry E. Sigerist," p. 252


Does he sound just like a certain President??


3. That's quite a jump, from Stalin to Obama, you say. How did it happen? Well, let's admit that the ascension of Barack Obama proves the ideological victory of Marxian beliefs. Perhaps the greatest factor was, as historian Robert Conquest explains it, that the West, unlike the USSR, "did not have a universal and exclusively defined mind-set." They attacked, and won, in the universities, the media, pop culture, the arts, and even Wall Street. Robert Conquest, "Reflections on a Ravaged Century," p. 155.

a. The details of the attack involve the writings of Antonio Gramsci, the invasion by the 'Frankfurt School, the early attacks by Progressives, and the shredding of the Constitution by FDR....and lets not forget Saul Alinsky. All of flowed from the wellspring of Marxism, and flooded, saturated, and finally, warped, Western Civilization.

 

[PoliticalChic]

If we are to go by what Marx said: 'From each according to his ability. To each according to his needs.' Then to date the only successful Marxist/communist society is the monastery, which includes the nunnery.

The problem here is that in the monastery/nunnery, everyone is a volunteer, whereas every single communist country so far have been coerced.

Where the heck do you imagine the phrase "income inequality" comes from????

 

[hazlnut]

von Mises? Oh my.

British Dictionary definitions for fascism
/ˈfæʃɪzəm/
noun (sometimes capital)
1.
any ideology or movement inspired by Italian Fascism,such as German National Socialism; any right-wingnationalist ideology or movement with an authoritarian andhierarchical structure that is fundamentally opposed todemocracy and liberalism
2.
any ideology, movement, programme, tendency, etc, thatmay be characterized as right-wing, chauvinist,authoritarian, etc
3.
prejudice in relation to the subject specified: body fascism

Wow....fascism is right wing because it is right wing......wow......that definition is not a definition..it is the same mess that my history Professor tried to explain but failed at because they had to say fascism wasn't socialism...but couldn't explain how it wasn't socialism other than to say "Well...it is right wing....so it is right wing fascism..."

Fascism and communism are two types of socialism.......

hat this violent anti-capitalistic attack is genuine, and not a mere piece of propaganda, becomes as clear from the personal history of the intellectual leaders of the movement as from the general milieu from which it springs. It is not even denied that many of the young men who today play a prominent part in it have previously been communists or socialists.

Hitler and the Nazis were not liberals. They hated liberals.

Easy enough to evidence why you are the NYLiar.

Let's begin with definitions.
Nazism, communism, socialism..Liberalism, Progressivism,.and fascism....

1. Which stem from the works of Karl Marx?
2. Which is a form of command and control big government?
3. Which has no problem with genocide, actual or figurative, as an accepted procedure on its political enemies?
4. Which is based on the collective over the individual?
5. Which oppresses and/or slaughters its own citizens as pro forma (including depriving them of a living)....?
6. Which represents totalitarian governance?
7. Which believes that mandating/dictating every aspect of their citizen's lives is their prerogative?
8. Which aims for an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature by controlling every aspect of life



And, of course, they all are do.

Nazism

Communism

Socialism

Fascism

Progressivism

Liberalism

Communism has only existed on paper, you dumb gash.

 

[hazlnut]

If we are to go by what Marx said: 'From each according to his ability. To each according to his needs.' Then to date the only successful Marxist/communist society is the monastery, which includes the nunnery.

The problem here is that in the monastery/nunnery, everyone is a volunteer, whereas every single communist country so far have been coerced.

Where the heck do you imagine the phrase "income inequality" comes from????

From people controlling more wealth than others.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Polichick... you and Sam Cooke

Yet you can't find any of my linked, sourced, documented quotes to be in error.

You must be an idiot, huh?

 

[PoliticalChic]

If we are to go by what Marx said: 'From each according to his ability. To each according to his needs.' Then to date the only successful Marxist/communist society is the monastery, which includes the nunnery.

The problem here is that in the monastery/nunnery, everyone is a volunteer, whereas every single communist country so far have been coerced.

Where the heck do you imagine the phrase "income inequality" comes from????

From people controlling more wealth than others.

Earning.

 

[PoliticalChic]

clowns love commies cause they DREAM of becoming the new "elite", not having to work, just give orders, kill off their enemies, etc. NOBODY wants to be the 99+% who have a horrible life under communism. 10-20% have a bad life under capistaliam (in the US,

at least) but everyone else has it pretty nice

The author of this thread doesn't work.

lolol

Of course I do.

Samizdat.


Get the dictionary.

Supervising the duties of your housekeeper Lupe and your houseboy Dong does not equate to a job.

You dope.....Obama was looking at my household staff when he said this:

 

[Bfgrn]

Commencement Address at American University, June 10, 1963

"No government or social system is so evil that its people must be considered as lacking in virtue. As Americans, we find communism profoundly repugnant as a negation of personal freedom and dignity. But we can still hail the Russian people for their many achievements--in science and space, in economic and industrial growth, in culture and in acts of courage.

Among the many traits the peoples of our two countries have in common, none is stronger than our mutual abhorrence of war. Almost unique among the major world powers, we have never been at war with each other. And no nation in the history of battle ever suffered more than the Soviet Union suffered in the course of the Second World War. At least 20 million lost their lives. Countless millions of homes and farms were burned or sacked. A third of the nation's territory, including nearly two thirds of its industrial base, was turned into a wasteland--a loss equivalent to the devastation of this country east of Chicago.

...

So, let us not be blind to our differences--but let us also direct attention to our common interests and to the means by which those differences can be resolved. And if we cannot end now our differences, at least we can help make the world safe for diversity. For, in the final analysis, our most basic common link is that we all inhabit this small planet. We all breathe the same air. We all cherish our children's future. And we are all mortal.

more

 

[francoHFW]

OP- Where do you get that? Not since 1935 anyway.

You're such a dope.
Almost every aim of the CPUSA is part of the Liberal/Democrat vision for America.


1. Government control of private sector activity...is aptly described as Bolshevik- or Marxist, socialist, collectivist, statist, or, for that matter, fascist, too. Indeed, nationalized health care was one of the first programs enacted by the Bolsheviks after they seized power in 1917 (Banks, insurance companies and means of communications were also taken over by Soviet authorities immediately. Dziewanowski, "A History of Soviet Russia," p. 107.

2. Obama wasn't the first Bolshevik to support socialized medicine. For context, there was Henry Sigerist: "He devoted himself to the study of history of medicine.Socialized Medicine in the Soviet Union(1937), andHistory of Medicinewere among his most important works. He emerged as a major spokesman for "compulsory health insurance". ...He attacked theAmerican Medical Associationbecause of his conflicting views onsocialized medicine." Henry E. Sigerist - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

a. And, Sigerist was one of the apologists for Stalin, including his state-engineered famine in the Ukraine. 7 million perished (The History Place - Genocide in the 20th Century Stalin s Forced Famine 1932-33).

b. Sigerist "shared with the architects of Soviet health policy under Stalin an outlook best described as medical totalitarianism. He really believed that humanity would be better off if every individual were under the medical supervision of the state from cradle to grave....[and] Sigerist's belief in the necessity for state control over all aspects of medicine ultimately made him an apologist for state control over most aspects of human life." Fee and Brown, eds. "Making Medical History: The Life and Times of Henry E. Sigerist," p. 252


Does he sound just like a certain President??


3. That's quite a jump, from Stalin to Obama, you say. How did it happen? Well, let's admit that the ascension of Barack Obama proves the ideological victory of Marxian beliefs. Perhaps the greatest factor was, as historian Robert Conquest explains it, that the West, unlike the USSR, "did not have a universal and exclusively defined mind-set." They attacked, and won, in the universities, the media, pop culture, the arts, and even Wall Street. Robert Conquest, "Reflections on a Ravaged Century," p. 155.

a. The details of the attack involve the writings of Antonio Gramsci, the invasion by the 'Frankfurt School, the early attacks by Progressives, and the shredding of the Constitution by FDR....and lets not forget Saul Alinsky. All of flowed from the wellspring of Marxism, and flooded, saturated, and finally, warped, Western Civilization.

Only a few in name only holdout countries CALL themselves communists, and the CPUSA has given up. They have power only in Pubdupe world. But thanks for the bs propaganda/spam.

 

[hazlnut]

Polichick... you and Sam Cooke

Yet you can't find any of my linked, sourced, documented quotes to be in error.

You must be an idiot, huh?

The error starts right after you say -- how about a little history...

Your Glen Beck University degree is toilet paper, baby.

You make these unsubstantiated links between mainstream left-of-center dems and atrocities committed by tyrants under the banner of "communism" and "socialism"... yet you fail to understand, communism never really existed except on paper.

Nazi Germany is a dictatorship -- they called themselves socialist, but capitalists got rich, you dumb cow.

Read Animal Farm. No body was every equal in the USSR.

You've got this extreme narrow-minded, dimwitted understanding of history, politics... Jesus you are so far gone, brainwashed.... it would be impossible to bring you back to normalcy, so we'll just mock you like a screeching train wreck on American Idol who doesn't realize she can't sing....


What you're trying to discuss is really too complicated for your small mind to wrap around.


I bet you're the girl who runs out of the community college history class, crying when the prof mocks her for regurgitating some Fox News/Glenn Beck re-write of history.

I bet you think FDR was a bad President... because that's what Beck told you to think.

You have no sense or understanding of history.

 

[PoliticalChic]

OP- Where do you get that? Not since 1935 anyway.

You're such a dope.
Almost every aim of the CPUSA is part of the Liberal/Democrat vision for America.


1. Government control of private sector activity...is aptly described as Bolshevik- or Marxist, socialist, collectivist, statist, or, for that matter, fascist, too. Indeed, nationalized health care was one of the first programs enacted by the Bolsheviks after they seized power in 1917 (Banks, insurance companies and means of communications were also taken over by Soviet authorities immediately. Dziewanowski, "A History of Soviet Russia," p. 107.

2. Obama wasn't the first Bolshevik to support socialized medicine. For context, there was Henry Sigerist: "He devoted himself to the study of history of medicine.Socialized Medicine in the Soviet Union(1937), andHistory of Medicinewere among his most important works. He emerged as a major spokesman for "compulsory health insurance". ...He attacked theAmerican Medical Associationbecause of his conflicting views onsocialized medicine." Henry E. Sigerist - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

a. And, Sigerist was one of the apologists for Stalin, including his state-engineered famine in the Ukraine. 7 million perished (The History Place - Genocide in the 20th Century Stalin s Forced Famine 1932-33).

b. Sigerist "shared with the architects of Soviet health policy under Stalin an outlook best described as medical totalitarianism. He really believed that humanity would be better off if every individual were under the medical supervision of the state from cradle to grave....[and] Sigerist's belief in the necessity for state control over all aspects of medicine ultimately made him an apologist for state control over most aspects of human life." Fee and Brown, eds. "Making Medical History: The Life and Times of Henry E. Sigerist," p. 252


Does he sound just like a certain President??


3. That's quite a jump, from Stalin to Obama, you say. How did it happen? Well, let's admit that the ascension of Barack Obama proves the ideological victory of Marxian beliefs. Perhaps the greatest factor was, as historian Robert Conquest explains it, that the West, unlike the USSR, "did not have a universal and exclusively defined mind-set." They attacked, and won, in the universities, the media, pop culture, the arts, and even Wall Street. Robert Conquest, "Reflections on a Ravaged Century," p. 155.

a. The details of the attack involve the writings of Antonio Gramsci, the invasion by the 'Frankfurt School, the early attacks by Progressives, and the shredding of the Constitution by FDR....and lets not forget Saul Alinsky. All of flowed from the wellspring of Marxism, and flooded, saturated, and finally, warped, Western Civilization.

Only a few in name only holdout countries CALL themselves communists, and the CPUSA has given up. They have power only in Pubdupe world. But thanks for the bs propaganda/spam.

I can't figure out it you're more of a moron, or more of a liar.

RSVP?



1. "Communist Party USA Chairman Vows Cooperation With Democratic Party"
Communist Party USA Work With Democrats The Daily Caller



2. New York State Communist Party

• • 235 W. 23rd St. 8th Fl.
  • New York, NY 10011
  • Tel: 212-924-0550
  • Email: [email protected]
  • Website

3. Communist running for Democrat nomination for President: Bernie Sanders.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Polichick... you and Sam Cooke

Yet you can't find any of my linked, sourced, documented quotes to be in error.

You must be an idiot, huh?

The error starts right after you say -- how about a little history...

Your Glen Beck University degree is toilet paper, baby.

You make these unsubstantiated links between mainstream left-of-center dems and atrocities committed by tyrants under the banner of "communism" and "socialism"... yet you fail to understand, communism never really existed except on paper.

Nazi Germany is a dictatorship -- they called themselves socialist, but capitalists got rich, you dumb cow.

Read Animal Farm. No body was every equal in the USSR.

You've got this extreme narrow-minded, dimwitted understanding of history, politics... Jesus you are so far gone, brainwashed.... it would be impossible to bring you back to normalcy, so we'll just mock you like a screeching train wreck on American Idol who doesn't realize she can't sing....


What you're trying to discuss is really too complicated for your small mind to wrap around.


I bet you're the girl who runs out of the community college history class, crying when the prof mocks her for regurgitating some Fox News/Glenn Beck re-write of history.

I bet you think FDR was a bad President... because that's what Beck told you to think.

You have no sense or understanding of history.

Still can't find a single error in my posts, huh?

The vitriol is totally understandable. You simply cannot admit, even to yourself, that you have been so fooled, for so many years, to accept and endorse the very same beliefs as Stalin, Hitler, and pretty much every totalitarian in modern history. Even when the proof is right before your eyes.

 

[hazlnut]

Polichick... you and Sam Cooke

Yet you can't find any of my linked, sourced, documented quotes to be in error.

You must be an idiot, huh?

The error starts right after you say -- how about a little history...

Your Glen Beck University degree is toilet paper, baby.

You make these unsubstantiated links between mainstream left-of-center dems and atrocities committed by tyrants under the banner of "communism" and "socialism"... yet you fail to understand, communism never really existed except on paper.

Nazi Germany is a dictatorship -- they called themselves socialist, but capitalists got rich, you dumb cow.

Read Animal Farm. No body was every equal in the USSR.

You've got this extreme narrow-minded, dimwitted understanding of history, politics... Jesus you are so far gone, brainwashed.... it would be impossible to bring you back to normalcy, so we'll just mock you like a screeching train wreck on American Idol who doesn't realize she can't sing....


What you're trying to discuss is really too complicated for your small mind to wrap around.


I bet you're the girl who runs out of the community college history class, crying when the prof mocks her for regurgitating some Fox News/Glenn Beck re-write of history.

I bet you think FDR was a bad President... because that's what Beck told you to think.

You have no sense or understanding of history.

Still can't find a single error in my posts, huh?

The vitriol is totally understandable. You simply cannot admit, even to yourself, that you have been so fooled, for so many years, to accept and endorse the very same beliefs as Stalin, Hitler, and pretty much every totalitarian in modern history. Even when the proof is right before your eyes.

I pointed out the error -- right after you say, how about a little history... nothing after that is valid or correct.



See how easy that was.


Your notion that mainstream American Dems love "communism" as represented by Russia is fucking retarded.

Not only do you not really understand what communism was as a failed experiment, nor do you prove in any way form or shape that the modern Democratic party has any connection or like for the concept.


Also, when you number things...

1.

2.

3.


Try to have them relate to one another in such a way that numbering is needed. You know, logic.


Here's what your numbering system looks like:


1. My cat.

2. Bacon.

3. Devil.

4. Obama.


See, only in your crazy head does that make sense.

 

[francoHFW]

OP- Where do you get that? Not since 1935 anyway.

You're such a dope.
Almost every aim of the CPUSA is part of the Liberal/Democrat vision for America.


1. Government control of private sector activity...is aptly described as Bolshevik- or Marxist, socialist, collectivist, statist, or, for that matter, fascist, too. Indeed, nationalized health care was one of the first programs enacted by the Bolsheviks after they seized power in 1917 (Banks, insurance companies and means of communications were also taken over by Soviet authorities immediately. Dziewanowski, "A History of Soviet Russia," p. 107.

2. Obama wasn't the first Bolshevik to support socialized medicine. For context, there was Henry Sigerist: "He devoted himself to the study of history of medicine.Socialized Medicine in the Soviet Union(1937), andHistory of Medicinewere among his most important works. He emerged as a major spokesman for "compulsory health insurance". ...He attacked theAmerican Medical Associationbecause of his conflicting views onsocialized medicine." Henry E. Sigerist - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

a. And, Sigerist was one of the apologists for Stalin, including his state-engineered famine in the Ukraine. 7 million perished (The History Place - Genocide in the 20th Century Stalin s Forced Famine 1932-33).

b. Sigerist "shared with the architects of Soviet health policy under Stalin an outlook best described as medical totalitarianism. He really believed that humanity would be better off if every individual were under the medical supervision of the state from cradle to grave....[and] Sigerist's belief in the necessity for state control over all aspects of medicine ultimately made him an apologist for state control over most aspects of human life." Fee and Brown, eds. "Making Medical History: The Life and Times of Henry E. Sigerist," p. 252


Does he sound just like a certain President??


3. That's quite a jump, from Stalin to Obama, you say. How did it happen? Well, let's admit that the ascension of Barack Obama proves the ideological victory of Marxian beliefs. Perhaps the greatest factor was, as historian Robert Conquest explains it, that the West, unlike the USSR, "did not have a universal and exclusively defined mind-set." They attacked, and won, in the universities, the media, pop culture, the arts, and even Wall Street. Robert Conquest, "Reflections on a Ravaged Century," p. 155.

a. The details of the attack involve the writings of Antonio Gramsci, the invasion by the 'Frankfurt School, the early attacks by Progressives, and the shredding of the Constitution by FDR....and lets not forget Saul Alinsky. All of flowed from the wellspring of Marxism, and flooded, saturated, and finally, warped, Western Civilization.

Only a few in name only holdout countries CALL themselves communists, and the CPUSA has given up. They have power only in Pubdupe world. But thanks for the bs propaganda/spam.

I can't figure out it you're more of a moron, or more of a liar.

RSVP?



1. "Communist Party USA Chairman Vows Cooperation With Democratic Party"
Communist Party USA Work With Democrats The Daily Caller



2. New York State Communist Party

• • 235 W. 23rd St. 8th Fl.
  • New York, NY 10011
  • Tel: 212-924-0550
  • Email: [email protected]
  • Website

3. Communist running for Democrat nomination for President: Bernie Sanders.

Sanders is a democratic socialist, as are all socialists since about 1935. But carry on, very amusing.