Why Do You Love The Communists?

[francoHFW]

OP- Where do you get that? Not since 1935 anyway.

 

[Pete7469]

[QUOTE="Liminal, post: 11541794, member: 52973"
Is this one of your "mentors"?
[/QUOTE]

Yeah... Rush and I used to play mailbox baseball from the back of his open top corvette, and do mushrooms in the watergate hotel. We got freaked out on acid one night with Henry KIssinger and erased a bunch of tape recordings where Nixon was plotting to make a bastard hybrid negro boy president by the beginning of the 21st century just so the elites could make sure a muppet.and complete failure called barrack would make black people look so stupid that Ben Carson or Herman Cain could never be elected.

What a long strange trip it's been...

 

[Wry Catcher]

Maybe later, I'm watching the ball game. As for your first paragraph, everyone has a mentor, someone wrote or said something which sets of the light bulb and remained in the memory bank. So, I'm far from impressed by your narcissism and pretense.

You clowns always have something to distract you from thinking.

Oh and BTW... I haven't pretended that I haven't had "mentors", but none of them were prophets. A mentor advises you, they shouldn't dictate how you think.

Drone.

They shouldn't? You have no idea what you're talking about. Thinking is an art and a process, a learned process and something which can be taught.

 

[NoNukes]

That question for you Liberals.
Yeah, you do. You accept them the way you'd accept a goofy uncle, y'know.....'a little strange but not a bad guy.'

OK...I understand why you hate, abhor the Nazis.

I know what they did....I see the Nazi villains in the movies....I recognize the references to 'grammar Nazi.' That makes sense.
But the fact that the same visceral hatred is not assigned to communists....the shrug, the sophisticated chuckle/sneer at those persistent anti-communists...
.....is the proof that you have been indoctrinated, brain-washed, manipulated.


Because the communists were far worse, and for far longer.





Yes...I'll prove it to you. First...let's fill in your history lacunae...

1. Remember that communism, Karl Marx, goes back to mid19th century....and took over Russia early in the 20 century. Not long after, it had cells and well organized branches in almost every western nation. From the start, they knew the value of psychological indoctrinations.


2. In the early years after the Bolshevik Revolution, the communists used manipulations, such as the Potemkin Villages, to persuade the world how admirable and successful the revolution had been. One technique was to invite prominent American and British leftists to take carefully planned tours. And these ‘Potemkin Progressives,’ for the most part, behaved and thought just as they were meant to.

a. Lenin, and then Stalin, carefully arranged the tours so that these progressives would then go back to their countries and praise Soviet Russia, so that the citizens would demand that Russia be recognized....'worker's paradise' and all.

H.G. Wells met with Stalin in 1934, and wrote “I’ve never met a man more candid, fair and honest!” and “…everyone trusts him!’ And of Lenin, “…frank, refreshing, and an amazing little man!’

George Bernard Shaw met with Stalin, as well. He returned, and wrote, “ We cannot afford to give ourselves moral airs when our most enterprising neighbors, the Soviet Union, humanely and judiciously liquidates a handful of exploiters and speculators to make the world safe for honest men.” He parroted the exact line that Stalin had given him!

And, of course, John Dewey.
See "Dupes," by Paul Kengor



When he returned from the Soviet Union, Shaw backed up ever lie that Walter Duranty reported. He testified that there was not, and never could be, a food shortage in the USSR.
Paul Hollander, “Political Pilgrims,” p.119


None of this was taught to you in government schools....was it?

Why do Conservatives love Putin?

 

[TemplarKormac]

Why do Conservatives love Putin?

Why do Liberals love Lena Dunham?

 

[vegas]

If we are to go by what Marx said: 'From each according to his ability. To each according to his needs.' Then to date the only successful Marxist/communist society is the monastery, which includes the nunnery.

The problem here is that in the monastery/nunnery, everyone is a volunteer, whereas every single communist country so far have been coerced.

 

[NoNukes]

Why do Conservatives love Putin?

Why do Liberals love Lena Dunham?

I don't, please do not attempt to speak for liberals.

 

[TemplarKormac]

I don't, please do not attempt to speak for liberals.

Then don't attempt to speak for conservatives. Class dismissed.

 

[NoNukes]

Because 'the commies are coming', always gets plenty on the right worked up, just mention Lenin or Marx, and you are going to have a whole thread on it - oh wait, what is this then.

And yet they love Putin.

 

[NoNukes]

I don't, please do not attempt to speak for liberals.

Then don't attempt to speak for conservatives. Class dismissed.

They speak for themselves, I am only pointing out what we have seen on these boards.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Because 'the commies are coming', always gets plenty on the right worked up, just mention Lenin or Marx, and you are going to have a whole thread on it - oh wait, what is this then.

And yet they love Putin.

And liberals love Lena Dunaham

 

[TemplarKormac]

I don't, please do not attempt to speak for liberals.

Then don't attempt to speak for conservatives. Class dismissed.

They speak for themselves, I am only pointing out what we have seen on these boards.

Your assertion was "conservatives love Putin." Yours was a intentional broadbrush of conservatives in general, not just those on this board. You are a terrible liar.

And when I threw the baseless accusation that liberals loved Lena Dunham, you reacted predictably, saying "I don't. Please, don't speak for liberals." So, the moral of the story? Don't assign beliefs to people that they don't represent. I myself think Putin has more of a backbone than Obama does, yet still I think he is a megalomaniac. It doesn't take a flaming, passionate love for Putin to see that.

 

[NYcarbineer]

And here we have another Ph.d discussing the different types of socialism.....

Hitler Was A Socialist And Not A Right Wing Conservative DemocraticPeace Blog

Mussolini’s fascism was a state socialism that was explicitly anti-Marx and aggressively nationalistic. Hitler’s National Socialism was state socialism at its worse. It not only shared the socialism of fascism, but was explicitly racist. In this it differs from the state socialism of Burma today, and that of some African and Arab dictatorships.


Two prevailing historical myths that the left has propagated successfully is that Hitler was a far right wing conservative and was democratically elected in 1933 (a blow at bourgeois democracy and conservatives). Actually, he was defeated twice in the national elections (he became chancellor in a smoke-filled-room appointment by those German politicians who thought they could control him — see “What? Hitler Was Not Elected?”) and as head of the National Socialist German Workers’ Party, he considered himself a socialist, and was one by the evidence of his writings and the his economic policies.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Jesus loves PC, so anything is possible.

Well, he healed the lepers...

...why not the schleppers?

 

[NYcarbineer]

von Mises? Oh my.

British Dictionary definitions for fascism
/ˈfæʃɪzəm/
noun (sometimes capital)
1.
any ideology or movement inspired by Italian Fascism,such as German National Socialism; any right-wingnationalist ideology or movement with an authoritarian andhierarchical structure that is fundamentally opposed todemocracy and liberalism
2.
any ideology, movement, programme, tendency, etc, thatmay be characterized as right-wing, chauvinist,authoritarian, etc
3.
prejudice in relation to the subject specified: body fascism

Wow....fascism is right wing because it is right wing......wow......that definition is not a definition..it is the same mess that my history Professor tried to explain but failed at because they had to say fascism wasn't socialism...but couldn't explain how it wasn't socialism other than to say "Well...it is right wing....so it is right wing fascism..."

Fascism and communism are two types of socialism.......

hat this violent anti-capitalistic attack is genuine, and not a mere piece of propaganda, becomes as clear from the personal history of the intellectual leaders of the movement as from the general milieu from which it springs. It is not even denied that many of the young men who today play a prominent part in it have previously been communists or socialists.

Hitler and the Nazis were not liberals. They hated liberals.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Christian dominionism is where everything begins with PC.

When she attacks her opponent personally is always the signal that she has surrendered.

Gee.....then I guess I'll be surrendering a whole bunch to you, you dishonest bag of sewage.

 

[hazlnut]

Yes...I'll prove it to you. First...let's fill in your history lacunae...

Aw, fuck... here we go.


Yes, sweetie, what did professor Beck tell you to tell us...


You braindead sack...

 

[PoliticalChic]

n

First define the terms. Start here:

Left right politics - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

USA Modern History Glossary.

Political Science Glossary.

Then, when reading a thread/post evaluate their argument. If the first sentence attacks someone's intelligence, stop reading. Such a topic sentence is the work of a partisan hack who will never take the post of anyone who disagrees with her seriously.

Left wing politics = government runs your life

"There is general agreement:

that the Left includes: anarchists, anti-capitalists, anti-imperialists,autonomists, communists, democratic-socialists, feminists, greens, left-libertarians,progressives, secularists, socialists, social-democrats and social-liberals.[5][6][7]

"There is also general consensous:

that the right includes: capitalists, conservatives, fascists,monarchists, nationalists,
neoconservatives, neoliberals, reactionaries, right-libertarians, social-authoritarians, theocrats and traditionalists.[8]"

Can anything be clearer? The effort by the right wing to connect everything evil, and every liberal, progressive and policy by a Democratic President or Congress as evil is one more example of the BIG LIE and an effort by the Right to rewrite history.

A lie so transparent that only a moron like you could believe it.


Before WW II, the same folks who championed Progressivism, viewed fascism as a noble economic agenda, and praised Mussolini. It was the horrors of the Holocaust that required both the rapid retreat from associations with the term fascism, and the rebranding by John Dewey of progressivism as liberalism.

W.E.B.DuBois suggested that National Socialism seemed an excellent model for economic organization.
http://www.ghi-dc.org/files/publications/bu_supp/supp5/supp5_099.pdf




Liberals claim the center by placing socialism on the left and national socialism on the right, even though Lenin/Stalin and Hitler/other Nazis had much in common as they centralized power and preached hatred. A more accurate spectrum would place totalitarians of many stripes on the left and defenders of religious, political, and economic freedom on the right.
WORLD Let s admit who we are Marvin Olasky July 17 2010



But you bought the propaganda like it was on sale.

That's because you're a moron.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Isn't The Communist a new comedy show on CBS?

Aren't you a clown?

 

[PoliticalChic]

von Mises? Oh my.

British Dictionary definitions for fascism
/ˈfæʃɪzəm/
noun (sometimes capital)
1.
any ideology or movement inspired by Italian Fascism,such as German National Socialism; any right-wingnationalist ideology or movement with an authoritarian andhierarchical structure that is fundamentally opposed todemocracy and liberalism
2.
any ideology, movement, programme, tendency, etc, thatmay be characterized as right-wing, chauvinist,authoritarian, etc
3.
prejudice in relation to the subject specified: body fascism

Wow....fascism is right wing because it is right wing......wow......that definition is not a definition..it is the same mess that my history Professor tried to explain but failed at because they had to say fascism wasn't socialism...but couldn't explain how it wasn't socialism other than to say "Well...it is right wing....so it is right wing fascism..."

Fascism and communism are two types of socialism.......

hat this violent anti-capitalistic attack is genuine, and not a mere piece of propaganda, becomes as clear from the personal history of the intellectual leaders of the movement as from the general milieu from which it springs. It is not even denied that many of the young men who today play a prominent part in it have previously been communists or socialists.

Hitler and the Nazis were not liberals. They hated liberals.

Easy enough to evidence why you are the NYLiar.

Let's begin with definitions.
Nazism, communism, socialism..Liberalism, Progressivism,.and fascism....

1. Which stem from the works of Karl Marx?
2. Which is a form of command and control big government?
3. Which has no problem with genocide, actual or figurative, as an accepted procedure on its political enemies?
4. Which is based on the collective over the individual?
5. Which oppresses and/or slaughters its own citizens as pro forma (including depriving them of a living)....?
6. Which represents totalitarian governance?
7. Which believes that mandating/dictating every aspect of their citizen's lives is their prerogative?
8. Which aims for an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature by controlling every aspect of life



And, of course, they all are do.

Nazism

Communism

Socialism

Fascism

Progressivism

Liberalism