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Conservative Republican: 45.95%You obviously don't understand electoral college determines who is president… You are one stupid motherfucker.The evidence of illegals voting will come during the next election after they are removed.
Why wait???
Got it right now....
1. “If there is a recount in Michigan and Trump loses by a few votes, then it’s very plausible that noncitizen voting made a big difference. Hopefully, it doesn’t come to that.”
Richman was the co-author of a 2014 study that looked at noncitizen voting in the 2008 and 2010 elections. In the comparable presidential election year, the Old Dominion study determined 6.4 percent on noncitizens in the United States voted in the 2008 presidential election, and about 81 percent of those voters backed Democrat Barack Obama.
Richman applied those numbers to 2016:
The basic assumptions on which the extrapolation is based are that 6.4 percent of noncitizens voted, and that of the noncitizens who voted, 81.8 percent voted for Clinton and 17.5 percent voted for Trump. … 6.4 percent turnout among the roughly 20.3 million noncitizen adults in the U.S. would add only 834,318 votes to Clinton’s popular vote margin. This is little more than a third of the total margin. … Is it plausible that noncitizen votes added to Clinton’s margin? Yes. Is it plausible that noncitizen votes account for the entire nationwide popular vote margin held by Clinton? Not at all.
“An issue of concern is that so many have voted that are not legally supposed to,” Miller told reporters in a conference call Monday.
Beyond the noncitizens voting study from Old Dominion, Miller pointed to the Pew study from 2012 that found 24 million voter registration records in the United States, or about 1 in 8, were “significantly inaccurate or no longer valid.”
The Pew study further found “1.8 million deceased individuals are listed as voters,” that “12 million records contain an incorrect address,” and that “2.75 million people have registrations in more than one state.”
“If 10 percent of noncitizens voted, it would likely make a popular vote difference,” Camarota told The Daily Signal. “It’s not the Electoral College [Trump] is upset about. It’s the popular vote. I wish he wouldn’t focus on it. Bill Clinton got just 43 percent of the vote in 1992. How many states did he win more than 50 percent of the vote in?”
Trump could be correct about the number of illegal votes, but there is no way to know,said Hans von Spakovsky, senior legal fellow with The Heritage Foundation who focuses on voter integrity issues."
Impact of Noncitizen Voters on the 2016 Election
And this thread:
Say Again...Who Won The Popular Vote??
Dude a penny in the garbage has more value than the popular vote does in the USA.............................
Get a grip already
If the popular vote is meaningless, how do Senators, Congressmen, Governors, get elected?
Why vote if your vote is meaningless?
You obviously don't understand electoral college determines who is president… You are one stupid motherfucker.The evidence of illegals voting will come during the next election after they are removed.
Why wait???
Got it right now....
1. “If there is a recount in Michigan and Trump loses by a few votes, then it’s very plausible that noncitizen voting made a big difference. Hopefully, it doesn’t come to that.”
Richman was the co-author of a 2014 study that looked at noncitizen voting in the 2008 and 2010 elections. In the comparable presidential election year, the Old Dominion study determined 6.4 percent on noncitizens in the United States voted in the 2008 presidential election, and about 81 percent of those voters backed Democrat Barack Obama.
Richman applied those numbers to 2016:
The basic assumptions on which the extrapolation is based are that 6.4 percent of noncitizens voted, and that of the noncitizens who voted, 81.8 percent voted for Clinton and 17.5 percent voted for Trump. … 6.4 percent turnout among the roughly 20.3 million noncitizen adults in the U.S. would add only 834,318 votes to Clinton’s popular vote margin. This is little more than a third of the total margin. … Is it plausible that noncitizen votes added to Clinton’s margin? Yes. Is it plausible that noncitizen votes account for the entire nationwide popular vote margin held by Clinton? Not at all.
“An issue of concern is that so many have voted that are not legally supposed to,” Miller told reporters in a conference call Monday.
Beyond the noncitizens voting study from Old Dominion, Miller pointed to the Pew study from 2012 that found 24 million voter registration records in the United States, or about 1 in 8, were “significantly inaccurate or no longer valid.”
The Pew study further found “1.8 million deceased individuals are listed as voters,” that “12 million records contain an incorrect address,” and that “2.75 million people have registrations in more than one state.”
“If 10 percent of noncitizens voted, it would likely make a popular vote difference,” Camarota told The Daily Signal. “It’s not the Electoral College [Trump] is upset about. It’s the popular vote. I wish he wouldn’t focus on it. Bill Clinton got just 43 percent of the vote in 1992. How many states did he win more than 50 percent of the vote in?”
Trump could be correct about the number of illegal votes, but there is no way to know,said Hans von Spakovsky, senior legal fellow with The Heritage Foundation who focuses on voter integrity issues."
Impact of Noncitizen Voters on the 2016 Election
And this thread:
Say Again...Who Won The Popular Vote??
Dude a penny in the garbage has more value than the popular vote does in the USA.............................
Get a grip already
If the popular vote is meaningless, how do Senators, Congressmen, Governors, get elected?
Why vote if your vote is meaningless?
The evidence of illegals voting will come during the next election after they are removed.
Why wait???
Got it right now....
1. “If there is a recount in Michigan and Trump loses by a few votes, then it’s very plausible that noncitizen voting made a big difference. Hopefully, it doesn’t come to that.”
Richman was the co-author of a 2014 study that looked at noncitizen voting in the 2008 and 2010 elections. In the comparable presidential election year, the Old Dominion study determined 6.4 percent on noncitizens in the United States voted in the 2008 presidential election, and about 81 percent of those voters backed Democrat Barack Obama.
Richman applied those numbers to 2016:
The basic assumptions on which the extrapolation is based are that 6.4 percent of noncitizens voted, and that of the noncitizens who voted, 81.8 percent voted for Clinton and 17.5 percent voted for Trump. … 6.4 percent turnout among the roughly 20.3 million noncitizen adults in the U.S. would add only 834,318 votes to Clinton’s popular vote margin. This is little more than a third of the total margin. … Is it plausible that noncitizen votes added to Clinton’s margin? Yes. Is it plausible that noncitizen votes account for the entire nationwide popular vote margin held by Clinton? Not at all.
“An issue of concern is that so many have voted that are not legally supposed to,” Miller told reporters in a conference call Monday.
Beyond the noncitizens voting study from Old Dominion, Miller pointed to the Pew study from 2012 that found 24 million voter registration records in the United States, or about 1 in 8, were “significantly inaccurate or no longer valid.”
The Pew study further found “1.8 million deceased individuals are listed as voters,” that “12 million records contain an incorrect address,” and that “2.75 million people have registrations in more than one state.”
“If 10 percent of noncitizens voted, it would likely make a popular vote difference,” Camarota told The Daily Signal. “It’s not the Electoral College [Trump] is upset about. It’s the popular vote. I wish he wouldn’t focus on it. Bill Clinton got just 43 percent of the vote in 1992. How many states did he win more than 50 percent of the vote in?”
Trump could be correct about the number of illegal votes, but there is no way to know,said Hans von Spakovsky, senior legal fellow with The Heritage Foundation who focuses on voter integrity issues."
Impact of Noncitizen Voters on the 2016 Election
And this thread:
Say Again...Who Won The Popular Vote??
Dude a penny in the garbage has more value than the popular vote does in the USA.............................
Get a grip already
If the popular vote is meaningless, how do Senators, Congressmen, Governors, get elected?
Again for the stupid, a penny has more value than the popular vote does for Billary Cliton in the last election..............
Seriously dude, you are NOT arguing with me, you are arguing with reality and it makes you seem mentally unfit. Now take your medications
Nobody's arguing against reality. They are arguing against the merits of the electoral college.
Why vote if your vote is meaningless?
that covers most of the country.
in the Blue Wall states, the Republicans vote is meaningless.
in flyover country, Democrat votes are meaningless.
Your vote only counts in the state you live in.
The bimbo is a 2 time loser, in fact all totaled she lost 3 billion dollars pretending to be a viable candidate for President.
What did she win.
Well I heard she won her bout with John Podesta by a knockout after he told her that Trump won the election
Why does the sociopath you voted for ignore the fact that almost 3 million more voted for Hillary over him?
Loon
Perhaps because there are 12 million illegal Mexicans living in the USA. Do the math, with those gone for the next election, Trump wins even bigger.
LOL, the sociopaths are the MORONIC Clinton voters that are smashing cars to prove their allegiance to Hitlery Clinton
No evidence of any largescale illegal voting. Nice try though.
The evidence of illegals voting will come during the next election after they are removed.
Perhaps because there are 12 million illegal Mexicans living in the USA. Do the math, with those gone for the next election, Trump wins even bigger.
LOL, the sociopaths are the MORONIC Clinton voters that are smashing cars to prove their allegiance to Hitlery Clinton
No evidence of any largescale illegal voting. Nice try though.
The evidence of illegals voting will come during the next election after they are removed.
Why wait???
Got it right now....
1. “If there is a recount in Michigan and Trump loses by a few votes, then it’s very plausible that noncitizen voting made a big difference. Hopefully, it doesn’t come to that.”
Richman was the co-author of a 2014 study that looked at noncitizen voting in the 2008 and 2010 elections. In the comparable presidential election year, the Old Dominion study determined 6.4 percent on noncitizens in the United States voted in the 2008 presidential election, and about 81 percent of those voters backed Democrat Barack Obama.
Richman applied those numbers to 2016:
The basic assumptions on which the extrapolation is based are that 6.4 percent of noncitizens voted, and that of the noncitizens who voted, 81.8 percent voted for Clinton and 17.5 percent voted for Trump. … 6.4 percent turnout among the roughly 20.3 million noncitizen adults in the U.S. would add only 834,318 votes to Clinton’s popular vote margin. This is little more than a third of the total margin. … Is it plausible that noncitizen votes added to Clinton’s margin? Yes. Is it plausible that noncitizen votes account for the entire nationwide popular vote margin held by Clinton? Not at all.
“An issue of concern is that so many have voted that are not legally supposed to,” Miller told reporters in a conference call Monday.
Beyond the noncitizens voting study from Old Dominion, Miller pointed to the Pew study from 2012 that found 24 million voter registration records in the United States, or about 1 in 8, were “significantly inaccurate or no longer valid.”
The Pew study further found “1.8 million deceased individuals are listed as voters,” that “12 million records contain an incorrect address,” and that “2.75 million people have registrations in more than one state.”
“If 10 percent of noncitizens voted, it would likely make a popular vote difference,” Camarota told The Daily Signal. “It’s not the Electoral College [Trump] is upset about. It’s the popular vote. I wish he wouldn’t focus on it. Bill Clinton got just 43 percent of the vote in 1992. How many states did he win more than 50 percent of the vote in?”
Trump could be correct about the number of illegal votes, but there is no way to know,said Hans von Spakovsky, senior legal fellow with The Heritage Foundation who focuses on voter integrity issues."
Impact of Noncitizen Voters on the 2016 Election
And this thread:
Say Again...Who Won The Popular Vote??
Dude a penny in the garbage has more value than the popular vote does in the USA.............................
Get a grip already
Speaking of one's "grip"....
...why would you wish to allow the lying Left to cling to the hope that they won the popular vote.....or any accolade at all?
Why?
The lost both the electoral college and the popular vote.
The bimbo is a 2 time loser, in fact all totaled she lost 3 billion dollars pretending to be a viable candidate for President.
What did she win.
Well I heard she won her bout with John Podesta by a knockout after he told her that Trump won the election
All people have said is that she won the popular vote, which is an irrefutable fact,
contrary to what half the nuts on USMB are claiming.
Conservative Republican: 45.95%No evidence of any largescale illegal voting. Nice try though.
The evidence of illegals voting will come during the next election after they are removed.
Why wait???
Got it right now....
1. “If there is a recount in Michigan and Trump loses by a few votes, then it’s very plausible that noncitizen voting made a big difference. Hopefully, it doesn’t come to that.”
Richman was the co-author of a 2014 study that looked at noncitizen voting in the 2008 and 2010 elections. In the comparable presidential election year, the Old Dominion study determined 6.4 percent on noncitizens in the United States voted in the 2008 presidential election, and about 81 percent of those voters backed Democrat Barack Obama.
Richman applied those numbers to 2016:
The basic assumptions on which the extrapolation is based are that 6.4 percent of noncitizens voted, and that of the noncitizens who voted, 81.8 percent voted for Clinton and 17.5 percent voted for Trump. … 6.4 percent turnout among the roughly 20.3 million noncitizen adults in the U.S. would add only 834,318 votes to Clinton’s popular vote margin. This is little more than a third of the total margin. … Is it plausible that noncitizen votes added to Clinton’s margin? Yes. Is it plausible that noncitizen votes account for the entire nationwide popular vote margin held by Clinton? Not at all.
“An issue of concern is that so many have voted that are not legally supposed to,” Miller told reporters in a conference call Monday.
Beyond the noncitizens voting study from Old Dominion, Miller pointed to the Pew study from 2012 that found 24 million voter registration records in the United States, or about 1 in 8, were “significantly inaccurate or no longer valid.”
The Pew study further found “1.8 million deceased individuals are listed as voters,” that “12 million records contain an incorrect address,” and that “2.75 million people have registrations in more than one state.”
“If 10 percent of noncitizens voted, it would likely make a popular vote difference,” Camarota told The Daily Signal. “It’s not the Electoral College [Trump] is upset about. It’s the popular vote. I wish he wouldn’t focus on it. Bill Clinton got just 43 percent of the vote in 1992. How many states did he win more than 50 percent of the vote in?”
Trump could be correct about the number of illegal votes, but there is no way to know,said Hans von Spakovsky, senior legal fellow with The Heritage Foundation who focuses on voter integrity issues."
Impact of Noncitizen Voters on the 2016 Election
And this thread:
Say Again...Who Won The Popular Vote??
Dude a penny in the garbage has more value than the popular vote does in the USA.............................
Get a grip already
Speaking of one's "grip"....
...why would you wish to allow the lying Left to cling to the hope that they won the popular vote.....or any accolade at all?
Why?
The lost both the electoral college and the popular vote.
Never realized the right would lie so blatently.
Trump didn't win the popular vote.
Clinton didn't win the electoral vote.
Time to let go of your infantile fantasies.
No evidence of any largescale illegal voting. Nice try though.
The evidence of illegals voting will come during the next election after they are removed.
Why wait???
Got it right now....
1. “If there is a recount in Michigan and Trump loses by a few votes, then it’s very plausible that noncitizen voting made a big difference. Hopefully, it doesn’t come to that.”
Richman was the co-author of a 2014 study that looked at noncitizen voting in the 2008 and 2010 elections. In the comparable presidential election year, the Old Dominion study determined 6.4 percent on noncitizens in the United States voted in the 2008 presidential election, and about 81 percent of those voters backed Democrat Barack Obama.
Richman applied those numbers to 2016:
The basic assumptions on which the extrapolation is based are that 6.4 percent of noncitizens voted, and that of the noncitizens who voted, 81.8 percent voted for Clinton and 17.5 percent voted for Trump. … 6.4 percent turnout among the roughly 20.3 million noncitizen adults in the U.S. would add only 834,318 votes to Clinton’s popular vote margin. This is little more than a third of the total margin. … Is it plausible that noncitizen votes added to Clinton’s margin? Yes. Is it plausible that noncitizen votes account for the entire nationwide popular vote margin held by Clinton? Not at all.
“An issue of concern is that so many have voted that are not legally supposed to,” Miller told reporters in a conference call Monday.
Beyond the noncitizens voting study from Old Dominion, Miller pointed to the Pew study from 2012 that found 24 million voter registration records in the United States, or about 1 in 8, were “significantly inaccurate or no longer valid.”
The Pew study further found “1.8 million deceased individuals are listed as voters,” that “12 million records contain an incorrect address,” and that “2.75 million people have registrations in more than one state.”
“If 10 percent of noncitizens voted, it would likely make a popular vote difference,” Camarota told The Daily Signal. “It’s not the Electoral College [Trump] is upset about. It’s the popular vote. I wish he wouldn’t focus on it. Bill Clinton got just 43 percent of the vote in 1992. How many states did he win more than 50 percent of the vote in?”
Trump could be correct about the number of illegal votes, but there is no way to know,said Hans von Spakovsky, senior legal fellow with The Heritage Foundation who focuses on voter integrity issues."
Impact of Noncitizen Voters on the 2016 Election
And this thread:
Say Again...Who Won The Popular Vote??
Dude a penny in the garbage has more value than the popular vote does in the USA.............................
Get a grip already
If the popular vote is meaningless, how do Senators, Congressmen, Governors, get elected?
Again for the stupid, a penny has more value than the popular vote does for Billary Cliton in the last election..............
Seriously dude, you are NOT arguing with me, you are arguing with reality and it makes you seem mentally unfit. Now take your medications
Conservative Republican: 45.95%The bimbo is a 2 time loser, in fact all totaled she lost 3 billion dollars pretending to be a viable candidate for President.
What did she win.
Well I heard she won her bout with John Podesta by a knockout after he told her that Trump won the election
All people have said is that she won the popular vote, which is an irrefutable fact,
contrary to what half the nuts on USMB are claiming.
They don't do math here on the USMB. That's why it's so confounding. Simple math.
Conservative Republican: 45.95%The evidence of illegals voting will come during the next election after they are removed.
Why wait???
Got it right now....
1. “If there is a recount in Michigan and Trump loses by a few votes, then it’s very plausible that noncitizen voting made a big difference. Hopefully, it doesn’t come to that.”
Richman was the co-author of a 2014 study that looked at noncitizen voting in the 2008 and 2010 elections. In the comparable presidential election year, the Old Dominion study determined 6.4 percent on noncitizens in the United States voted in the 2008 presidential election, and about 81 percent of those voters backed Democrat Barack Obama.
Richman applied those numbers to 2016:
The basic assumptions on which the extrapolation is based are that 6.4 percent of noncitizens voted, and that of the noncitizens who voted, 81.8 percent voted for Clinton and 17.5 percent voted for Trump. … 6.4 percent turnout among the roughly 20.3 million noncitizen adults in the U.S. would add only 834,318 votes to Clinton’s popular vote margin. This is little more than a third of the total margin. … Is it plausible that noncitizen votes added to Clinton’s margin? Yes. Is it plausible that noncitizen votes account for the entire nationwide popular vote margin held by Clinton? Not at all.
“An issue of concern is that so many have voted that are not legally supposed to,” Miller told reporters in a conference call Monday.
Beyond the noncitizens voting study from Old Dominion, Miller pointed to the Pew study from 2012 that found 24 million voter registration records in the United States, or about 1 in 8, were “significantly inaccurate or no longer valid.”
The Pew study further found “1.8 million deceased individuals are listed as voters,” that “12 million records contain an incorrect address,” and that “2.75 million people have registrations in more than one state.”
“If 10 percent of noncitizens voted, it would likely make a popular vote difference,” Camarota told The Daily Signal. “It’s not the Electoral College [Trump] is upset about. It’s the popular vote. I wish he wouldn’t focus on it. Bill Clinton got just 43 percent of the vote in 1992. How many states did he win more than 50 percent of the vote in?”
Trump could be correct about the number of illegal votes, but there is no way to know,said Hans von Spakovsky, senior legal fellow with The Heritage Foundation who focuses on voter integrity issues."
Impact of Noncitizen Voters on the 2016 Election
And this thread:
Say Again...Who Won The Popular Vote??
Dude a penny in the garbage has more value than the popular vote does in the USA.............................
Get a grip already
If the popular vote is meaningless, how do Senators, Congressmen, Governors, get elected?
Again for the stupid, a penny has more value than the popular vote does for Billary Cliton in the last election..............
Seriously dude, you are NOT arguing with me, you are arguing with reality and it makes you seem mentally unfit. Now take your medications
The popular vote determines where the electors go, so obviously it isn't meaningless.
The electoral system, however, distorts the popular vote in several ways so as to create the possibility of getting someone elected who got fewer votes than his opponent.
That is a system that cannot be justified by any rational, logical argument.
No evidence of any largescale illegal voting. Nice try though.
The evidence of illegals voting will come during the next election after they are removed.
Why wait???
Got it right now....
1. “If there is a recount in Michigan and Trump loses by a few votes, then it’s very plausible that noncitizen voting made a big difference. Hopefully, it doesn’t come to that.”
Richman was the co-author of a 2014 study that looked at noncitizen voting in the 2008 and 2010 elections. In the comparable presidential election year, the Old Dominion study determined 6.4 percent on noncitizens in the United States voted in the 2008 presidential election, and about 81 percent of those voters backed Democrat Barack Obama.
Richman applied those numbers to 2016:
The basic assumptions on which the extrapolation is based are that 6.4 percent of noncitizens voted, and that of the noncitizens who voted, 81.8 percent voted for Clinton and 17.5 percent voted for Trump. … 6.4 percent turnout among the roughly 20.3 million noncitizen adults in the U.S. would add only 834,318 votes to Clinton’s popular vote margin. This is little more than a third of the total margin. … Is it plausible that noncitizen votes added to Clinton’s margin? Yes. Is it plausible that noncitizen votes account for the entire nationwide popular vote margin held by Clinton? Not at all.
“An issue of concern is that so many have voted that are not legally supposed to,” Miller told reporters in a conference call Monday.
Beyond the noncitizens voting study from Old Dominion, Miller pointed to the Pew study from 2012 that found 24 million voter registration records in the United States, or about 1 in 8, were “significantly inaccurate or no longer valid.”
The Pew study further found “1.8 million deceased individuals are listed as voters,” that “12 million records contain an incorrect address,” and that “2.75 million people have registrations in more than one state.”
“If 10 percent of noncitizens voted, it would likely make a popular vote difference,” Camarota told The Daily Signal. “It’s not the Electoral College [Trump] is upset about. It’s the popular vote. I wish he wouldn’t focus on it. Bill Clinton got just 43 percent of the vote in 1992. How many states did he win more than 50 percent of the vote in?”
Trump could be correct about the number of illegal votes, but there is no way to know,said Hans von Spakovsky, senior legal fellow with The Heritage Foundation who focuses on voter integrity issues."
Impact of Noncitizen Voters on the 2016 Election
And this thread:
Say Again...Who Won The Popular Vote??
Dude a penny in the garbage has more value than the popular vote does in the USA.............................
Get a grip already
Speaking of one's "grip"....
...why would you wish to allow the lying Left to cling to the hope that they won the popular vote.....or any accolade at all?
Why?
The lost both the electoral college and the popular vote.
Never realized the right would lie so blatently.
Trump didn't win the popular vote.
Clinton didn't win the electoral vote.
Time to let go of your infantile fantasies.
The bimbo is a 2 time loser, in fact all totaled she lost 3 billion dollars pretending to be a viable candidate for President.
What did she win.
Well I heard she won her bout with John Podesta by a knockout after he told her that Trump won the election
Why does the sociopath you voted for ignore the fact that almost 3 million more voted for Hillary over him?
Loon
Perhaps because there are 12 million illegal Mexicans living in the USA. Do the math, with those gone for the next election, Trump wins even bigger.
LOL, the sociopaths are the MORONIC Clinton voters that are smashing cars to prove their allegiance to Hitlery Clinton
No evidence of any largescale illegal voting. Nice try though.
Why did he need it?
Has ANY president ever needed it to win the election?
The evidence of illegals voting will come during the next election after they are removed.
In other words, no evidence. Just butthurt over the fact that Trump did not get the popular vote....and add to that, he is entering the presidency the lowest ratings ever. That must be the illegals skewing the polls.
The bimbo is a 2 time loser, in fact all totaled she lost 3 billion dollars pretending to be a viable candidate for President.
What did she win.
Well I heard she won her bout with John Podesta by a knockout after he told her that Trump won the election
Why does the sociopath you voted for ignore the fact that almost 3 million more voted for Hillary over him?
Loon
Perhaps because there are 12 million illegal Mexicans living in the USA. Do the math, with those gone for the next election, Trump wins even bigger.
LOL, the sociopaths are the MORONIC Clinton voters that are smashing cars to prove their allegiance to Hitlery Clinton
No evidence of any largescale illegal voting. Nice try though.
The evidence of illegals voting will come during the next election after they are removed.
In other words, no evidence. Just butthurt over the fact that Trump did not get the popular vote....and add to that, he is entering the presidency the lowest ratings ever. That must be the illegals skewing the polls.
Did he need it?Just butthurt over the fact that Trump did not get the popular vote
and add to that, he is entering the presidency the lowest ratings ever.
The bimbo is a 2 time loser, in fact all totaled she lost 3 billion dollars pretending to be a viable candidate for President.
What did she win.
Well I heard she won her bout with John Podesta by a knockout after he told her that Trump won the election
All people have said is that she won the popular vote, which is an irrefutable fact,
contrary to what half the nuts on USMB are claiming.
They don't do math here on the USMB. That's why it's so confounding. Simple math.
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Very Likely, had HIllary won, the same could have been said about her.
The evidence of illegals voting will come during the next election after they are removed.
Why wait???
Got it right now....
1. “If there is a recount in Michigan and Trump loses by a few votes, then it’s very plausible that noncitizen voting made a big difference. Hopefully, it doesn’t come to that.”
Richman was the co-author of a 2014 study that looked at noncitizen voting in the 2008 and 2010 elections. In the comparable presidential election year, the Old Dominion study determined 6.4 percent on noncitizens in the United States voted in the 2008 presidential election, and about 81 percent of those voters backed Democrat Barack Obama.
Richman applied those numbers to 2016:
The basic assumptions on which the extrapolation is based are that 6.4 percent of noncitizens voted, and that of the noncitizens who voted, 81.8 percent voted for Clinton and 17.5 percent voted for Trump. … 6.4 percent turnout among the roughly 20.3 million noncitizen adults in the U.S. would add only 834,318 votes to Clinton’s popular vote margin. This is little more than a third of the total margin. … Is it plausible that noncitizen votes added to Clinton’s margin? Yes. Is it plausible that noncitizen votes account for the entire nationwide popular vote margin held by Clinton? Not at all.
“An issue of concern is that so many have voted that are not legally supposed to,” Miller told reporters in a conference call Monday.
Beyond the noncitizens voting study from Old Dominion, Miller pointed to the Pew study from 2012 that found 24 million voter registration records in the United States, or about 1 in 8, were “significantly inaccurate or no longer valid.”
The Pew study further found “1.8 million deceased individuals are listed as voters,” that “12 million records contain an incorrect address,” and that “2.75 million people have registrations in more than one state.”
“If 10 percent of noncitizens voted, it would likely make a popular vote difference,” Camarota told The Daily Signal. “It’s not the Electoral College [Trump] is upset about. It’s the popular vote. I wish he wouldn’t focus on it. Bill Clinton got just 43 percent of the vote in 1992. How many states did he win more than 50 percent of the vote in?”
Trump could be correct about the number of illegal votes, but there is no way to know,said Hans von Spakovsky, senior legal fellow with The Heritage Foundation who focuses on voter integrity issues."
Impact of Noncitizen Voters on the 2016 Election
And this thread:
Say Again...Who Won The Popular Vote??
Dude a penny in the garbage has more value than the popular vote does in the USA.............................
Get a grip already
If the popular vote is meaningless, how do Senators, Congressmen, Governors, get elected?
Again for the stupid, a penny has more value than the popular vote does for Billary Cliton in the last election..............
Seriously dude, you are NOT arguing with me, you are arguing with reality and it makes you seem mentally unfit. Now take your medications
The popular vote determines where the electors go, so obviously it isn't meaningless.
The electoral system, however, distorts the popular vote in several ways so as to create the possibility of getting someone elected who got fewer votes than his opponent.
That is a system that cannot be justified by any rational, logical argument.
The popular vote determines where the electors go, so obviously it isn't meaningless.
The electoral system, however, distorts the popular vote in several ways so as to create the possibility of getting someone elected who got fewer votes than his opponent.
The bimbo is a 2 time loser, in fact all totaled she lost 3 billion dollars pretending to be a viable candidate for President.
What did she win.
Well I heard she won her bout with John Podesta by a knockout after he told her that Trump won the election
All people have said is that she won the popular vote, which is an irrefutable fact,
contrary to what half the nuts on USMB are claiming.
They don't do math here on the USMB. That's why it's so confounding. Simple math.
So far they have claimed:
1. Trump won the popular vote if you remove 3 million illegal votes that Hillary got. That is supported by nothing but thin air.
2. Trump won the popular vote if you remove California from the United States. That is so stupid that, well,
if nothing else it's helpful to the outside observer to see how thoroughly demented modern American conservatism is.
Look at this way, in a bit of historical perspective. Can you imagine conservative icon William F. Buckley, if he were around today, going on his tv show and announcing that today he'll be making the argument that Donald Trump won the popular vote,
and proceeded to make the remove California argument?
Conservatism today is little more than a madhouse poorly disguised as a political movement.
The bimbo is a 2 time loser, in fact all totaled she lost 3 billion dollars pretending to be a viable candidate for President.
What did she win.
Well I heard she won her bout with John Podesta by a knockout after he told her that Trump won the election
All people have said is that she won the popular vote, which is an irrefutable fact,
contrary to what half the nuts on USMB are claiming.
They don't do math here on the USMB. That's why it's so confounding. Simple math.
So far they have claimed:
1. Trump won the popular vote if you remove 3 million illegal votes that Hillary got. That is supported by nothing but thin air.
2. Trump won the popular vote if you remove California from the United States. That is so stupid that, well,
if nothing else it's helpful to the outside observer to see how thoroughly demented modern American conservatism is.
Look at this way, in a bit of historical perspective. Can you imagine conservative icon William F. Buckley, if he were around today, going on his tv show and announcing that today he'll be making the argument that Donald Trump won the popular vote,
and proceeded to make the remove California argument?
Conservatism today is little more than a madhouse poorly disguised as a political movement.
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Very Likely, had HIllary won, the same could have been said about her.
Defending Trump by pointing out how much like Hillary he is.
Classic modern conservative madness!!
