Why do you need to carry a gun?

[Blues Man]

Funny I've had a CC permit for almost 34 years and no one has ever been "in danger" because I was carrying. In fact no one ever even knew I was carrying.

The fact is that most people who carry concealed firearms know that it is an awesome responsibility and people with concealed carry permits are some of the most law abiding people in the country.

I wouldn't let you near me, my family, my circle....people that do own guns, when they lose their temper more likely they will use....Stats are here to prove it....famillies slaughtered, co workers shot, kids shooting parents....it is an easy grab and harm others tools. You still don't believe me.compare murder rate in most countries that have restrictions on guns with the US. Fuck even presidents here got shot.

I have some bad news for ya, and that is people are around you with guns all the time.

You remind me of an elderly lady I was talking to at the grocery store while waiting in a long line a few years back. Somehow the subject of concealed carry came up with the lady and her daughter behind me, I and another customer were contributing the the chat.

It wasn't real serious and everybody was very nice, but the elderly lady said that citizens with guns scare her. I told her that there are people with guns--probably in the grocery store right now, and she would never know! She doubted my claim saying she could recognize a person who was armed fifty feet away.

So I smiled and asked "Am I a person who is armed?" She laughed and said "No you are not. You're too nice!" Then I opened my jacket. In the colder months, I use a shoulder holster. She just formed an O with her mouth as if she was going to scream, but laughed quickly afterwards.

She asked "Why are you carrying that thing?" I said "In case a bad guy comes in this store carrying the same thing. God forbid it happen, but if it did, you'll be glad your behind me in this line."

I think it gave her something to think about.

A bad guy behind you with a machine gun...will give you a heads up. You are delusional.and yet you cant beat the stats, countries with less guns and restrictions on them have less deaths, crimes by guns. I even i knew that as a kid overseas watching the news about gun violence in the US...35 years later I live here and it is still epidemic.

Because you are so brainwashed. You actually believe an inanimate object acts on it's own.

Not at all, dope.

One thing is certain though. One must possess a gun in order to use a gun. The possession of a gun increases the risk to everyone in the household becoming a victim of gun violence dramatically.

Spare us the lecture about "responsible" gun owners. The fact that there are irresponsible owners at all is a problem.

The presence of a pool increases the risk of family members drowning dramatically

If you want life without risk you're shit out of luck and might as well end it now

 

[RealDave]

Not long ago, I walked to the mailbox, and along my route I saw a Copperhead snake. For those who are uninformed about this particular snake, it is venomous. A healthy adult probably will not die from the bite, providing that they receive medical attention promptly. However, children, and elderly, will find the bite far more deadly. Not to mention pets. Everyone on my street has dogs, and I have cats as well. Additionally my neighbor is in his 80’s, and he would probably find the bite life threatening.

So this snake was a danger to my pets, my neighbors, and the children who live a quarter mile away.

I pulled the pistol I habitually carry, and shot the snake. I was in my yard, in my neighborhood, if you can call it a neighborhood to live in such a rural area. Yet I was armed, because this is not the first wildlife threat I’ve found myself facing. We also have Wild Boar, which are very aggressive and potentially dangerous or deadly. Coyotes are heard from time to time as they roam along the wooded areas that take up a vast majority of the space out here.

I did not go looking for the snake. I did not go out of my way searching for it. I found it on my normal path, walking to the mailbox in my rural area, on my land. In my yard, the area with grass and such.

So why carry a gun? Because if I had to turn around and rush to the house to get the pistol, the snake may have moved, and been difficult, or impossible to locate. Perhaps he would have returned to the woods, where I sometimes walk, to check the property, but never in a hunting frame of mind. That snake might have bitten my dog, my cats, or my neighbors pets. It might have bitten my neighbor, the old man who has his mailbox positioned next to mine. It might have bitten a child. The best you could hope for is an expensive trip to the Emergency Room, sucking your cash out to pay for the care you would need to minimize the danger.

There is much truth in the old saying. It is better to have, and not need, than to need and not have. There are. Probably a dozen more Copperheads within two hundred yards of where I sit. In the woods, or marshy areas. Hunting and living, and just as much of a danger to the neighborhood as the one I shot. I did not break the law. In Georgia, you can kill venomous snakes, but not non venomous snakes. The experts tell you to take two steps back, and run away if you come across one. That is not my way. It leaves the problem for another. It leaves the danger for my 80 year old neighbor, his dog, or the dogs two doors down who meander over to say hello now and then.

It leaves the danger for the children, who ride their bikes up and down the dirt road.

So why do you need to carry a gun? Because there are more dangers than the odd robbery, or attempted murder. Because the world is filled with threats, two legged, four legged, and even no legs at all. With a gun, you have a much better chance of survival than without. With a gun, you do not guarantee survival, but you increase your odds dramatically.

Yes, accidents are going to happen, just as they do with cars and drivers. Yes, people are going to use the gun to criminally harm another. And yes, people who have guns are going to die before they can get the thing into play. I didn’t say it was a miracle answer, I just said it increases your odds of survival. No one can guarantee your safety or protection. The best that they, or I, can do is give you a fighting chance at survival. Be it from a Copperhead, or a Shitheaded thug. If you choose to take no action to protect yourself, that is your choice, and I’ll respect it. But do not try and take that right from others, because I won’t respect that.

Ridiculous sophistry.

No one ‘needs’ to carry a gun.

Carrying a concealed firearm is a subjective, personal preference.

Just as I carry a concealed firearm not out of ‘need’ but due to preference.

What a great reason for putting people n danger where you tote.

Just because YOU are irresponsible, untrustworthy, and deranged, don't project that onto everyone else.

First of all, you certainly can not guarantee that every toter is trustworthy, responsible & not deranged. I mean there is something not right about the urge to have your loaded firearm with you 24/7/365.

Second, accidents happen.
Of course, you are PERFECT but others can have misfires, leave their guns where they shouldn't, have guns taken from them, and if a temper tantrum , stsart shooting.

There is a risk. If you think there is not, then you are too God damn stupid to carry a loaded weapon.

 

[RealDave]

Not long ago, I walked to the mailbox, and along my route I saw a Copperhead snake. For those who are uninformed about this particular snake, it is venomous. A healthy adult probably will not die from the bite, providing that they receive medical attention promptly. However, children, and elderly, will find the bite far more deadly. Not to mention pets. Everyone on my street has dogs, and I have cats as well. Additionally my neighbor is in his 80’s, and he would probably find the bite life threatening.

So this snake was a danger to my pets, my neighbors, and the children who live a quarter mile away.

I pulled the pistol I habitually carry, and shot the snake. I was in my yard, in my neighborhood, if you can call it a neighborhood to live in such a rural area. Yet I was armed, because this is not the first wildlife threat I’ve found myself facing. We also have Wild Boar, which are very aggressive and potentially dangerous or deadly. Coyotes are heard from time to time as they roam along the wooded areas that take up a vast majority of the space out here.

I did not go looking for the snake. I did not go out of my way searching for it. I found it on my normal path, walking to the mailbox in my rural area, on my land. In my yard, the area with grass and such.

So why carry a gun? Because if I had to turn around and rush to the house to get the pistol, the snake may have moved, and been difficult, or impossible to locate. Perhaps he would have returned to the woods, where I sometimes walk, to check the property, but never in a hunting frame of mind. That snake might have bitten my dog, my cats, or my neighbors pets. It might have bitten my neighbor, the old man who has his mailbox positioned next to mine. It might have bitten a child. The best you could hope for is an expensive trip to the Emergency Room, sucking your cash out to pay for the care you would need to minimize the danger.

There is much truth in the old saying. It is better to have, and not need, than to need and not have. There are. Probably a dozen more Copperheads within two hundred yards of where I sit. In the woods, or marshy areas. Hunting and living, and just as much of a danger to the neighborhood as the one I shot. I did not break the law. In Georgia, you can kill venomous snakes, but not non venomous snakes. The experts tell you to take two steps back, and run away if you come across one. That is not my way. It leaves the problem for another. It leaves the danger for my 80 year old neighbor, his dog, or the dogs two doors down who meander over to say hello now and then.

It leaves the danger for the children, who ride their bikes up and down the dirt road.

So why do you need to carry a gun? Because there are more dangers than the odd robbery, or attempted murder. Because the world is filled with threats, two legged, four legged, and even no legs at all. With a gun, you have a much better chance of survival than without. With a gun, you do not guarantee survival, but you increase your odds dramatically.

Yes, accidents are going to happen, just as they do with cars and drivers. Yes, people are going to use the gun to criminally harm another. And yes, people who have guns are going to die before they can get the thing into play. I didn’t say it was a miracle answer, I just said it increases your odds of survival. No one can guarantee your safety or protection. The best that they, or I, can do is give you a fighting chance at survival. Be it from a Copperhead, or a Shitheaded thug. If you choose to take no action to protect yourself, that is your choice, and I’ll respect it. But do not try and take that right from others, because I won’t respect that.

Ridiculous sophistry.

No one ‘needs’ to carry a gun.

Carrying a concealed firearm is a subjective, personal preference.

Just as I carry a concealed firearm not out of ‘need’ but due to preference.

What a great reason for putting people n danger where you tote.

Funny I've had a CC permit for almost 34 years and no one has ever been "in danger" because I was carrying. In fact no one ever even knew I was carrying.

The fact is that most people who carry concealed firearms know that it is an awesome responsibility and people with concealed carry permits are some of the most law abiding people in the country.

So you have NEVER mishandled, forgot to engage the safety, never left your gun out, never knew any toter that did.

If you sas no, then you are a liar.

 

[RealDave]

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Only lowlifes take a piss in public. I have a good bladder I can hold it till I'll go home.
And besides Mr smart, if that happens what would having gun on me serve for against the element of surprise ?

Good for you for having a "good bladder".

If you don't think a gun would ever protect you or your family then don't buy one. Problem solved.

However, don't be an asshole. Leave my Constitutional rights alone.

But you pose a risk when you carry a loaded gun in public. Does your right over rule my safety?

 

[RealDave]

I wouldn't let you near me, my family, my circle....people that do own guns, when they lose their temper more likely they will use....Stats are here to prove it....famillies slaughtered, co workers shot, kids shooting parents....it is an easy grab and harm others tools. You still don't believe me.compare murder rate in most countries that have restrictions on guns with the US. Fuck even presidents here got shot.

I have some bad news for ya, and that is people are around you with guns all the time.

You remind me of an elderly lady I was talking to at the grocery store while waiting in a long line a few years back. Somehow the subject of concealed carry came up with the lady and her daughter behind me, I and another customer were contributing the the chat.

It wasn't real serious and everybody was very nice, but the elderly lady said that citizens with guns scare her. I told her that there are people with guns--probably in the grocery store right now, and she would never know! She doubted my claim saying she could recognize a person who was armed fifty feet away.

So I smiled and asked "Am I a person who is armed?" She laughed and said "No you are not. You're too nice!" Then I opened my jacket. In the colder months, I use a shoulder holster. She just formed an O with her mouth as if she was going to scream, but laughed quickly afterwards.

She asked "Why are you carrying that thing?" I said "In case a bad guy comes in this store carrying the same thing. God forbid it happen, but if it did, you'll be glad your behind me in this line."

I think it gave her something to think about.

A bad guy behind you with a machine gun...will give you a heads up. You are delusional.and yet you cant beat the stats, countries with less guns and restrictions on them have less deaths, crimes by guns. I even i knew that as a kid overseas watching the news about gun violence in the US...35 years later I live here and it is still epidemic.

Because you are so brainwashed. You actually believe an inanimate object acts on it's own.

I travelled a lot...when I turn on local 5v news all I see people protesting or some random stufff... I get back here all I see is gun deaths and shootings everywhere.
The whole world, stats, number of deaths all points to gun problem in the US...except the tough guys with small balls who need a gun to feel safe.

I bet yoir balls will get really small when your at a road side rest taking a piss and a bad guy sticks a gun in your back or knife and the only thing you can do is tremble and hold your dick

So if you are armed & taking thst piss & someone sticks a gun in your back, how the fuck is being armed going to help you?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Funny I've had a CC permit for almost 34 years and no one has ever been "in danger" because I was carrying. In fact no one ever even knew I was carrying.

The fact is that most people who carry concealed firearms know that it is an awesome responsibility and people with concealed carry permits are some of the most law abiding people in the country.

I wouldn't let you near me, my family, my circle....people that do own guns, when they lose their temper more likely they will use....Stats are here to prove it....famillies slaughtered, co workers shot, kids shooting parents....it is an easy grab and harm others tools. You still don't believe me.compare murder rate in most countries that have restrictions on guns with the US. Fuck even presidents here got shot.

I have some bad news for ya, and that is people are around you with guns all the time.

You remind me of an elderly lady I was talking to at the grocery store while waiting in a long line a few years back. Somehow the subject of concealed carry came up with the lady and her daughter behind me, I and another customer were contributing the the chat.

It wasn't real serious and everybody was very nice, but the elderly lady said that citizens with guns scare her. I told her that there are people with guns--probably in the grocery store right now, and she would never know! She doubted my claim saying she could recognize a person who was armed fifty feet away.

So I smiled and asked "Am I a person who is armed?" She laughed and said "No you are not. You're too nice!" Then I opened my jacket. In the colder months, I use a shoulder holster. She just formed an O with her mouth as if she was going to scream, but laughed quickly afterwards.

She asked "Why are you carrying that thing?" I said "In case a bad guy comes in this store carrying the same thing. God forbid it happen, but if it did, you'll be glad your behind me in this line."

I think it gave her something to think about.

A bad guy behind you with a machine gun...will give you a heads up. You are delusional.and yet you cant beat the stats, countries with less guns and restrictions on them have less deaths, crimes by guns. I even i knew that as a kid overseas watching the news about gun violence in the US...35 years later I live here and it is still epidemic.

Because you are so brainwashed. You actually believe an inanimate object acts on it's own.

Not at all, dope.

One thing is certain though. One must possess a gun in order to use a gun. The possession of a gun increases the risk to everyone in the household becoming a victim of gun violence dramatically.

Spare us the lecture about "responsible" gun owners. The fact that there are irresponsible owners at all is a problem.

So where do you stop? Swimming pools kill people, knives kill people, blunt objects kill people, cars kill tens of thousands every year.

You are catching on slowly. Yes, one must possess a gun to use a gun, and that’s exactly the message we want to send to bad guys.


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[Ray From Cleveland]

Not long ago, I walked to the mailbox, and along my route I saw a Copperhead snake. For those who are uninformed about this particular snake, it is venomous. A healthy adult probably will not die from the bite, providing that they receive medical attention promptly. However, children, and elderly, will find the bite far more deadly. Not to mention pets. Everyone on my street has dogs, and I have cats as well. Additionally my neighbor is in his 80’s, and he would probably find the bite life threatening.

So this snake was a danger to my pets, my neighbors, and the children who live a quarter mile away.

I pulled the pistol I habitually carry, and shot the snake. I was in my yard, in my neighborhood, if you can call it a neighborhood to live in such a rural area. Yet I was armed, because this is not the first wildlife threat I’ve found myself facing. We also have Wild Boar, which are very aggressive and potentially dangerous or deadly. Coyotes are heard from time to time as they roam along the wooded areas that take up a vast majority of the space out here.

I did not go looking for the snake. I did not go out of my way searching for it. I found it on my normal path, walking to the mailbox in my rural area, on my land. In my yard, the area with grass and such.

So why carry a gun? Because if I had to turn around and rush to the house to get the pistol, the snake may have moved, and been difficult, or impossible to locate. Perhaps he would have returned to the woods, where I sometimes walk, to check the property, but never in a hunting frame of mind. That snake might have bitten my dog, my cats, or my neighbors pets. It might have bitten my neighbor, the old man who has his mailbox positioned next to mine. It might have bitten a child. The best you could hope for is an expensive trip to the Emergency Room, sucking your cash out to pay for the care you would need to minimize the danger.

There is much truth in the old saying. It is better to have, and not need, than to need and not have. There are. Probably a dozen more Copperheads within two hundred yards of where I sit. In the woods, or marshy areas. Hunting and living, and just as much of a danger to the neighborhood as the one I shot. I did not break the law. In Georgia, you can kill venomous snakes, but not non venomous snakes. The experts tell you to take two steps back, and run away if you come across one. That is not my way. It leaves the problem for another. It leaves the danger for my 80 year old neighbor, his dog, or the dogs two doors down who meander over to say hello now and then.

It leaves the danger for the children, who ride their bikes up and down the dirt road.

So why do you need to carry a gun? Because there are more dangers than the odd robbery, or attempted murder. Because the world is filled with threats, two legged, four legged, and even no legs at all. With a gun, you have a much better chance of survival than without. With a gun, you do not guarantee survival, but you increase your odds dramatically.

Yes, accidents are going to happen, just as they do with cars and drivers. Yes, people are going to use the gun to criminally harm another. And yes, people who have guns are going to die before they can get the thing into play. I didn’t say it was a miracle answer, I just said it increases your odds of survival. No one can guarantee your safety or protection. The best that they, or I, can do is give you a fighting chance at survival. Be it from a Copperhead, or a Shitheaded thug. If you choose to take no action to protect yourself, that is your choice, and I’ll respect it. But do not try and take that right from others, because I won’t respect that.

I got my CCW during the housing bubble when the ghetto was buying houses in my burb. Along with them came the crime, and my once nice city turned into a jungle.

We don't have too many problems with animals in the city, but the two-legged ones were the problem. It was so bad that one year I had three murders all within a mile of my house.

So I got my license and started to carry everywhere I went. I found it an inconvenience, but so would my funeral or long stay in the hospital.

Since then, the banks caught up with their foreclosures and chased all the lowlifes back to the projects. However it's like a tornado. Once it hits, it's difficult to rebuild.

So now I only carry when I go out at night, or know I'll be coming home from a family doing after dark. Do I need to carry a gun? Yes I do, just for my own peace of mind.

I had three murders all within a mile of my house.

Mmm......Time to move, dope.


Ooh..sorry. you can't, because you're no better off than the animals are. How frustrating that must be when one is superior to the animals.

I can't for several reasons: one, my family (including my elderly mother and father) both live here and I want to be close by in case they need me for something. Two, this is my business as well as my home. Three, the lowlifes decreased my property value so badly it would be almost like giving the place away. Four, this place gives my father something to do when he wants to get out of the house and mess around with something. Plenty of work to do over here.

I know you leftists think that we built this great country by people running away, but that isn't so. It's the white Democrats who sold their homes first when the blacks started to move in.

It's your choice, dope.

Quit bitching.

Who’s bitching?


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[Blues Man]

Not long ago, I walked to the mailbox, and along my route I saw a Copperhead snake. For those who are uninformed about this particular snake, it is venomous. A healthy adult probably will not die from the bite, providing that they receive medical attention promptly. However, children, and elderly, will find the bite far more deadly. Not to mention pets. Everyone on my street has dogs, and I have cats as well. Additionally my neighbor is in his 80’s, and he would probably find the bite life threatening.

So this snake was a danger to my pets, my neighbors, and the children who live a quarter mile away.

I pulled the pistol I habitually carry, and shot the snake. I was in my yard, in my neighborhood, if you can call it a neighborhood to live in such a rural area. Yet I was armed, because this is not the first wildlife threat I’ve found myself facing. We also have Wild Boar, which are very aggressive and potentially dangerous or deadly. Coyotes are heard from time to time as they roam along the wooded areas that take up a vast majority of the space out here.

I did not go looking for the snake. I did not go out of my way searching for it. I found it on my normal path, walking to the mailbox in my rural area, on my land. In my yard, the area with grass and such.

So why carry a gun? Because if I had to turn around and rush to the house to get the pistol, the snake may have moved, and been difficult, or impossible to locate. Perhaps he would have returned to the woods, where I sometimes walk, to check the property, but never in a hunting frame of mind. That snake might have bitten my dog, my cats, or my neighbors pets. It might have bitten my neighbor, the old man who has his mailbox positioned next to mine. It might have bitten a child. The best you could hope for is an expensive trip to the Emergency Room, sucking your cash out to pay for the care you would need to minimize the danger.

There is much truth in the old saying. It is better to have, and not need, than to need and not have. There are. Probably a dozen more Copperheads within two hundred yards of where I sit. In the woods, or marshy areas. Hunting and living, and just as much of a danger to the neighborhood as the one I shot. I did not break the law. In Georgia, you can kill venomous snakes, but not non venomous snakes. The experts tell you to take two steps back, and run away if you come across one. That is not my way. It leaves the problem for another. It leaves the danger for my 80 year old neighbor, his dog, or the dogs two doors down who meander over to say hello now and then.

It leaves the danger for the children, who ride their bikes up and down the dirt road.

So why do you need to carry a gun? Because there are more dangers than the odd robbery, or attempted murder. Because the world is filled with threats, two legged, four legged, and even no legs at all. With a gun, you have a much better chance of survival than without. With a gun, you do not guarantee survival, but you increase your odds dramatically.

Yes, accidents are going to happen, just as they do with cars and drivers. Yes, people are going to use the gun to criminally harm another. And yes, people who have guns are going to die before they can get the thing into play. I didn’t say it was a miracle answer, I just said it increases your odds of survival. No one can guarantee your safety or protection. The best that they, or I, can do is give you a fighting chance at survival. Be it from a Copperhead, or a Shitheaded thug. If you choose to take no action to protect yourself, that is your choice, and I’ll respect it. But do not try and take that right from others, because I won’t respect that.

Ridiculous sophistry.

No one ‘needs’ to carry a gun.

Carrying a concealed firearm is a subjective, personal preference.

Just as I carry a concealed firearm not out of ‘need’ but due to preference.

What a great reason for putting people n danger where you tote.

Just because YOU are irresponsible, untrustworthy, and deranged, don't project that onto everyone else.

First of all, you certainly can not guarantee that every toter is trustworthy, responsible & not deranged. I mean there is something not right about the urge to have your loaded firearm with you 24/7/365.

Second, accidents happen.
Of course, you are PERFECT but others can have misfires, leave their guns where they shouldn't, have guns taken from them, and if a temper tantrum , stsart shooting.

There is a risk. If you think there is not, then you are too God damn stupid to carry a loaded weapon.

You can't guarantee anything about anyone. And life is risk

If you want a risk free life you are going to be disappointed

 

[Blues Man]

Not long ago, I walked to the mailbox, and along my route I saw a Copperhead snake. For those who are uninformed about this particular snake, it is venomous. A healthy adult probably will not die from the bite, providing that they receive medical attention promptly. However, children, and elderly, will find the bite far more deadly. Not to mention pets. Everyone on my street has dogs, and I have cats as well. Additionally my neighbor is in his 80’s, and he would probably find the bite life threatening.

So this snake was a danger to my pets, my neighbors, and the children who live a quarter mile away.

I pulled the pistol I habitually carry, and shot the snake. I was in my yard, in my neighborhood, if you can call it a neighborhood to live in such a rural area. Yet I was armed, because this is not the first wildlife threat I’ve found myself facing. We also have Wild Boar, which are very aggressive and potentially dangerous or deadly. Coyotes are heard from time to time as they roam along the wooded areas that take up a vast majority of the space out here.

I did not go looking for the snake. I did not go out of my way searching for it. I found it on my normal path, walking to the mailbox in my rural area, on my land. In my yard, the area with grass and such.

So why carry a gun? Because if I had to turn around and rush to the house to get the pistol, the snake may have moved, and been difficult, or impossible to locate. Perhaps he would have returned to the woods, where I sometimes walk, to check the property, but never in a hunting frame of mind. That snake might have bitten my dog, my cats, or my neighbors pets. It might have bitten my neighbor, the old man who has his mailbox positioned next to mine. It might have bitten a child. The best you could hope for is an expensive trip to the Emergency Room, sucking your cash out to pay for the care you would need to minimize the danger.

There is much truth in the old saying. It is better to have, and not need, than to need and not have. There are. Probably a dozen more Copperheads within two hundred yards of where I sit. In the woods, or marshy areas. Hunting and living, and just as much of a danger to the neighborhood as the one I shot. I did not break the law. In Georgia, you can kill venomous snakes, but not non venomous snakes. The experts tell you to take two steps back, and run away if you come across one. That is not my way. It leaves the problem for another. It leaves the danger for my 80 year old neighbor, his dog, or the dogs two doors down who meander over to say hello now and then.

It leaves the danger for the children, who ride their bikes up and down the dirt road.

So why do you need to carry a gun? Because there are more dangers than the odd robbery, or attempted murder. Because the world is filled with threats, two legged, four legged, and even no legs at all. With a gun, you have a much better chance of survival than without. With a gun, you do not guarantee survival, but you increase your odds dramatically.

Yes, accidents are going to happen, just as they do with cars and drivers. Yes, people are going to use the gun to criminally harm another. And yes, people who have guns are going to die before they can get the thing into play. I didn’t say it was a miracle answer, I just said it increases your odds of survival. No one can guarantee your safety or protection. The best that they, or I, can do is give you a fighting chance at survival. Be it from a Copperhead, or a Shitheaded thug. If you choose to take no action to protect yourself, that is your choice, and I’ll respect it. But do not try and take that right from others, because I won’t respect that.

Ridiculous sophistry.

No one ‘needs’ to carry a gun.

Carrying a concealed firearm is a subjective, personal preference.

Just as I carry a concealed firearm not out of ‘need’ but due to preference.

What a great reason for putting people n danger where you tote.

Funny I've had a CC permit for almost 34 years and no one has ever been "in danger" because I was carrying. In fact no one ever even knew I was carrying.

The fact is that most people who carry concealed firearms know that it is an awesome responsibility and people with concealed carry permits are some of the most law abiding people in the country.

So you have NEVER mishandled, forgot to engage the safety, never left your gun out, never knew any toter that did.

If you sas no, then you are a liar.

Never once have I discharged any firearm accidentally.

My handguns don't have safeties

And it's obvious that you don't know very many people who carry

 

[Blues Man]

I have some bad news for ya, and that is people are around you with guns all the time.

You remind me of an elderly lady I was talking to at the grocery store while waiting in a long line a few years back. Somehow the subject of concealed carry came up with the lady and her daughter behind me, I and another customer were contributing the the chat.

It wasn't real serious and everybody was very nice, but the elderly lady said that citizens with guns scare her. I told her that there are people with guns--probably in the grocery store right now, and she would never know! She doubted my claim saying she could recognize a person who was armed fifty feet away.

So I smiled and asked "Am I a person who is armed?" She laughed and said "No you are not. You're too nice!" Then I opened my jacket. In the colder months, I use a shoulder holster. She just formed an O with her mouth as if she was going to scream, but laughed quickly afterwards.

She asked "Why are you carrying that thing?" I said "In case a bad guy comes in this store carrying the same thing. God forbid it happen, but if it did, you'll be glad your behind me in this line."

I think it gave her something to think about.

A bad guy behind you with a machine gun...will give you a heads up. You are delusional.and yet you cant beat the stats, countries with less guns and restrictions on them have less deaths, crimes by guns. I even i knew that as a kid overseas watching the news about gun violence in the US...35 years later I live here and it is still epidemic.

Because you are so brainwashed. You actually believe an inanimate object acts on it's own.

I travelled a lot...when I turn on local 5v news all I see people protesting or some random stufff... I get back here all I see is gun deaths and shootings everywhere.
The whole world, stats, number of deaths all points to gun problem in the US...except the tough guys with small balls who need a gun to feel safe.

I bet yoir balls will get really small when your at a road side rest taking a piss and a bad guy sticks a gun in your back or knife and the only thing you can do is tremble and hold your dick

So if you are armed & taking thst piss & someone sticks a gun in your back, how the fuck is being armed going to help you?

If I'm carrying I use a stall and lock the door

 

[RealDave]

Not long ago, I walked to the mailbox, and along my route I saw a Copperhead snake. For those who are uninformed about this particular snake, it is venomous. A healthy adult probably will not die from the bite, providing that they receive medical attention promptly. However, children, and elderly, will find the bite far more deadly. Not to mention pets. Everyone on my street has dogs, and I have cats as well. Additionally my neighbor is in his 80’s, and he would probably find the bite life threatening.

So this snake was a danger to my pets, my neighbors, and the children who live a quarter mile away.

I pulled the pistol I habitually carry, and shot the snake. I was in my yard, in my neighborhood, if you can call it a neighborhood to live in such a rural area. Yet I was armed, because this is not the first wildlife threat I’ve found myself facing. We also have Wild Boar, which are very aggressive and potentially dangerous or deadly. Coyotes are heard from time to time as they roam along the wooded areas that take up a vast majority of the space out here.

I did not go looking for the snake. I did not go out of my way searching for it. I found it on my normal path, walking to the mailbox in my rural area, on my land. In my yard, the area with grass and such.

So why carry a gun? Because if I had to turn around and rush to the house to get the pistol, the snake may have moved, and been difficult, or impossible to locate. Perhaps he would have returned to the woods, where I sometimes walk, to check the property, but never in a hunting frame of mind. That snake might have bitten my dog, my cats, or my neighbors pets. It might have bitten my neighbor, the old man who has his mailbox positioned next to mine. It might have bitten a child. The best you could hope for is an expensive trip to the Emergency Room, sucking your cash out to pay for the care you would need to minimize the danger.

There is much truth in the old saying. It is better to have, and not need, than to need and not have. There are. Probably a dozen more Copperheads within two hundred yards of where I sit. In the woods, or marshy areas. Hunting and living, and just as much of a danger to the neighborhood as the one I shot. I did not break the law. In Georgia, you can kill venomous snakes, but not non venomous snakes. The experts tell you to take two steps back, and run away if you come across one. That is not my way. It leaves the problem for another. It leaves the danger for my 80 year old neighbor, his dog, or the dogs two doors down who meander over to say hello now and then.

It leaves the danger for the children, who ride their bikes up and down the dirt road.

So why do you need to carry a gun? Because there are more dangers than the odd robbery, or attempted murder. Because the world is filled with threats, two legged, four legged, and even no legs at all. With a gun, you have a much better chance of survival than without. With a gun, you do not guarantee survival, but you increase your odds dramatically.

Yes, accidents are going to happen, just as they do with cars and drivers. Yes, people are going to use the gun to criminally harm another. And yes, people who have guns are going to die before they can get the thing into play. I didn’t say it was a miracle answer, I just said it increases your odds of survival. No one can guarantee your safety or protection. The best that they, or I, can do is give you a fighting chance at survival. Be it from a Copperhead, or a Shitheaded thug. If you choose to take no action to protect yourself, that is your choice, and I’ll respect it. But do not try and take that right from others, because I won’t respect that.

Ridiculous sophistry.

No one ‘needs’ to carry a gun.

Carrying a concealed firearm is a subjective, personal preference.

Just as I carry a concealed firearm not out of ‘need’ but due to preference.

What a great reason for putting people n danger where you tote.

Funny I've had a CC permit for almost 34 years and no one has ever been "in danger" because I was carrying. In fact no one ever even knew I was carrying.

The fact is that most people who carry concealed firearms know that it is an awesome responsibility and people with concealed carry permits are some of the most law abiding people in the country.

So you have NEVER mishandled, forgot to engage the safety, never left your gun out, never knew any toter that did.

If you sas no, then you are a liar.

Never once have I discharged any firearm accidentally.

My handguns don't have safeties

And it's obvious that you don't know very many people who carry

Two days ago at the grocery, the guy in front of us in the aisle had a handgun in the back of his pants.

I guess you will tell me he is a responsible toter?

 

[RealDave]

Not long ago, I walked to the mailbox, and along my route I saw a Copperhead snake. For those who are uninformed about this particular snake, it is venomous. A healthy adult probably will not die from the bite, providing that they receive medical attention promptly. However, children, and elderly, will find the bite far more deadly. Not to mention pets. Everyone on my street has dogs, and I have cats as well. Additionally my neighbor is in his 80’s, and he would probably find the bite life threatening.

So this snake was a danger to my pets, my neighbors, and the children who live a quarter mile away.

I pulled the pistol I habitually carry, and shot the snake. I was in my yard, in my neighborhood, if you can call it a neighborhood to live in such a rural area. Yet I was armed, because this is not the first wildlife threat I’ve found myself facing. We also have Wild Boar, which are very aggressive and potentially dangerous or deadly. Coyotes are heard from time to time as they roam along the wooded areas that take up a vast majority of the space out here.

I did not go looking for the snake. I did not go out of my way searching for it. I found it on my normal path, walking to the mailbox in my rural area, on my land. In my yard, the area with grass and such.

So why carry a gun? Because if I had to turn around and rush to the house to get the pistol, the snake may have moved, and been difficult, or impossible to locate. Perhaps he would have returned to the woods, where I sometimes walk, to check the property, but never in a hunting frame of mind. That snake might have bitten my dog, my cats, or my neighbors pets. It might have bitten my neighbor, the old man who has his mailbox positioned next to mine. It might have bitten a child. The best you could hope for is an expensive trip to the Emergency Room, sucking your cash out to pay for the care you would need to minimize the danger.

There is much truth in the old saying. It is better to have, and not need, than to need and not have. There are. Probably a dozen more Copperheads within two hundred yards of where I sit. In the woods, or marshy areas. Hunting and living, and just as much of a danger to the neighborhood as the one I shot. I did not break the law. In Georgia, you can kill venomous snakes, but not non venomous snakes. The experts tell you to take two steps back, and run away if you come across one. That is not my way. It leaves the problem for another. It leaves the danger for my 80 year old neighbor, his dog, or the dogs two doors down who meander over to say hello now and then.

It leaves the danger for the children, who ride their bikes up and down the dirt road.

So why do you need to carry a gun? Because there are more dangers than the odd robbery, or attempted murder. Because the world is filled with threats, two legged, four legged, and even no legs at all. With a gun, you have a much better chance of survival than without. With a gun, you do not guarantee survival, but you increase your odds dramatically.

Yes, accidents are going to happen, just as they do with cars and drivers. Yes, people are going to use the gun to criminally harm another. And yes, people who have guns are going to die before they can get the thing into play. I didn’t say it was a miracle answer, I just said it increases your odds of survival. No one can guarantee your safety or protection. The best that they, or I, can do is give you a fighting chance at survival. Be it from a Copperhead, or a Shitheaded thug. If you choose to take no action to protect yourself, that is your choice, and I’ll respect it. But do not try and take that right from others, because I won’t respect that.

Ridiculous sophistry.

No one ‘needs’ to carry a gun.

Carrying a concealed firearm is a subjective, personal preference.

Just as I carry a concealed firearm not out of ‘need’ but due to preference.

What a great reason for putting people n danger where you tote.

Just because YOU are irresponsible, untrustworthy, and deranged, don't project that onto everyone else.

First of all, you certainly can not guarantee that every toter is trustworthy, responsible & not deranged. I mean there is something not right about the urge to have your loaded firearm with you 24/7/365.

Second, accidents happen.
Of course, you are PERFECT but others can have misfires, leave their guns where they shouldn't, have guns taken from them, and if a temper tantrum , stsart shooting.

There is a risk. If you think there is not, then you are too God damn stupid to carry a loaded weapon.

You can't guarantee anything about anyone. And life is risk

If you want a risk free life you are going to be disappointed

Why do you think it is OK for you to pose a link to a family eating dinner at the next table.

 

[Rustic]

Ridiculous sophistry.

No one ‘needs’ to carry a gun.

Carrying a concealed firearm is a subjective, personal preference.

Just as I carry a concealed firearm not out of ‘need’ but due to preference.

What a great reason for putting people n danger where you tote.

Funny I've had a CC permit for almost 34 years and no one has ever been "in danger" because I was carrying. In fact no one ever even knew I was carrying.

The fact is that most people who carry concealed firearms know that it is an awesome responsibility and people with concealed carry permits are some of the most law abiding people in the country.

So you have NEVER mishandled, forgot to engage the safety, never left your gun out, never knew any toter that did.

If you sas no, then you are a liar.

Never once have I discharged any firearm accidentally.

My handguns don't have safeties

And it's obvious that you don't know very many people who carry

Two days ago at the grocery, the guy in front of us in the aisle had a handgun in the back of his pants.

I guess you will tell me he is a responsible toter?

LOL
it’s none of your fucking business.... Weasel boy

 

[RealDave]

I wouldn't let you near me, my family, my circle....people that do own guns, when they lose their temper more likely they will use....Stats are here to prove it....famillies slaughtered, co workers shot, kids shooting parents....it is an easy grab and harm others tools. You still don't believe me.compare murder rate in most countries that have restrictions on guns with the US. Fuck even presidents here got shot.

I have some bad news for ya, and that is people are around you with guns all the time.

You remind me of an elderly lady I was talking to at the grocery store while waiting in a long line a few years back. Somehow the subject of concealed carry came up with the lady and her daughter behind me, I and another customer were contributing the the chat.

It wasn't real serious and everybody was very nice, but the elderly lady said that citizens with guns scare her. I told her that there are people with guns--probably in the grocery store right now, and she would never know! She doubted my claim saying she could recognize a person who was armed fifty feet away.

So I smiled and asked "Am I a person who is armed?" She laughed and said "No you are not. You're too nice!" Then I opened my jacket. In the colder months, I use a shoulder holster. She just formed an O with her mouth as if she was going to scream, but laughed quickly afterwards.

She asked "Why are you carrying that thing?" I said "In case a bad guy comes in this store carrying the same thing. God forbid it happen, but if it did, you'll be glad your behind me in this line."

I think it gave her something to think about.

A bad guy behind you with a machine gun...will give you a heads up. You are delusional.and yet you cant beat the stats, countries with less guns and restrictions on them have less deaths, crimes by guns. I even i knew that as a kid overseas watching the news about gun violence in the US...35 years later I live here and it is still epidemic.

Because you are so brainwashed. You actually believe an inanimate object acts on it's own.

Not at all, dope.

One thing is certain though. One must possess a gun in order to use a gun. The possession of a gun increases the risk to everyone in the household becoming a victim of gun violence dramatically.

Spare us the lecture about "responsible" gun owners. The fact that there are irresponsible owners at all is a problem.

So where do you stop? Swimming pools kill people, knives kill people, blunt objects kill people, cars kill tens of thousands every year.

You are catching on slowly. Yes, one must possess a gun to use a gun, and that’s exactly the message we want to send to bad guys.


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A swimming pool is in one's yard, keep your gun in your yard.

A knife does not kill people iof you mishandle it. We use cars for a reason & people who drive them are tested & can lose their licenses. You had a fit when there was a attempt to pass a law taking guns from people with PFAs against them.

Most toters were never trained or tested & it is legal to tote under the influence.

 

[SandSquid]

Not long ago, I walked to the mailbox, and along my route I saw a Copperhead snake. For those who are uninformed about this particular snake, it is venomous. A healthy adult probably will not die from the bite, providing that they receive medical attention promptly. However, children, and elderly, will find the bite far more deadly. Not to mention pets. Everyone on my street has dogs, and I have cats as well. Additionally my neighbor is in his 80’s, and he would probably find the bite life threatening.

So this snake was a danger to my pets, my neighbors, and the children who live a quarter mile away.

I pulled the pistol I habitually carry, and shot the snake. I was in my yard, in my neighborhood, if you can call it a neighborhood to live in such a rural area. Yet I was armed, because this is not the first wildlife threat I’ve found myself facing. We also have Wild Boar, which are very aggressive and potentially dangerous or deadly. Coyotes are heard from time to time as they roam along the wooded areas that take up a vast majority of the space out here.

I did not go looking for the snake. I did not go out of my way searching for it. I found it on my normal path, walking to the mailbox in my rural area, on my land. In my yard, the area with grass and such.

So why carry a gun? Because if I had to turn around and rush to the house to get the pistol, the snake may have moved, and been difficult, or impossible to locate. Perhaps he would have returned to the woods, where I sometimes walk, to check the property, but never in a hunting frame of mind. That snake might have bitten my dog, my cats, or my neighbors pets. It might have bitten my neighbor, the old man who has his mailbox positioned next to mine. It might have bitten a child. The best you could hope for is an expensive trip to the Emergency Room, sucking your cash out to pay for the care you would need to minimize the danger.

There is much truth in the old saying. It is better to have, and not need, than to need and not have. There are. Probably a dozen more Copperheads within two hundred yards of where I sit. In the woods, or marshy areas. Hunting and living, and just as much of a danger to the neighborhood as the one I shot. I did not break the law. In Georgia, you can kill venomous snakes, but not non venomous snakes. The experts tell you to take two steps back, and run away if you come across one. That is not my way. It leaves the problem for another. It leaves the danger for my 80 year old neighbor, his dog, or the dogs two doors down who meander over to say hello now and then.

It leaves the danger for the children, who ride their bikes up and down the dirt road.

So why do you need to carry a gun? Because there are more dangers than the odd robbery, or attempted murder. Because the world is filled with threats, two legged, four legged, and even no legs at all. With a gun, you have a much better chance of survival than without. With a gun, you do not guarantee survival, but you increase your odds dramatically.

Yes, accidents are going to happen, just as they do with cars and drivers. Yes, people are going to use the gun to criminally harm another. And yes, people who have guns are going to die before they can get the thing into play. I didn’t say it was a miracle answer, I just said it increases your odds of survival. No one can guarantee your safety or protection. The best that they, or I, can do is give you a fighting chance at survival. Be it from a Copperhead, or a Shitheaded thug. If you choose to take no action to protect yourself, that is your choice, and I’ll respect it. But do not try and take that right from others, because I won’t respect that.

Ridiculous sophistry.

No one ‘needs’ to carry a gun.

Carrying a concealed firearm is a subjective, personal preference.

Just as I carry a concealed firearm not out of ‘need’ but due to preference.

What a great reason for putting people n danger where you tote.

Funny I've had a CC permit for almost 34 years and no one has ever been "in danger" because I was carrying. In fact no one ever even knew I was carrying.

The fact is that most people who carry concealed firearms know that it is an awesome responsibility and people with concealed carry permits are some of the most law abiding people in the country.

I wouldn't let you near me, my family, my circle....people that do own guns, when they lose their temper more likely they will use....Stats are here to prove it....famillies slaughtered, co workers shot, kids shooting parents....it is an easy grab and harm others tools. You still don't believe me.compare murder rate in most countries that have restrictions on guns with the US. Fuck even presidents here got shot.

You wouldn't have a clue if I was carrying even if I was standing right next to you.

And contrary to your statement most legal gun owners practice incredible restraint. 70% of all murders in this country are committed by people who obtain their guns illegally and are criminals killing other criminals.

And the murder rate is impacted by many more variables then guns alone. Only the most simple minded people think that guns cause murder.

A study last year showed according to states which include CCW permit status in police reports:

General population 3813 crimes per 100,000 people.
Police 103 crimes per 100,000 people.
Permit holders 17 crimes per 100,000 people.

That last one is the one you won't let near your family? Even knowing permit holders are the least likely to commit a crime?

As for murder rates, the problem is the lack of correlation. Norway for example has 10 times the gun ownership rate of the UK and half the murders. Central American countries are among the lowest in gun ownership and highest in murder rates. Not one country in the top 10 around the world for gun ownership ranks in the top 10 for murder rate. If guns are the primary cause you can't keep having these outliers over and over all around the world. What we see again and again is socio-political issues cause murder rate swings.

Look at a country like El Salvador. High crime, so they went on a massive gun ban. Now the murder capital of the world, and 1 in 53 guns is used in a murder. No worry now that law abiding people are armed, guns used not to protect, but only left for those who want to kill.

32 states since 1988 became "right to carry" states. ALL 32 states saw crime and violent crime rates fall after passing their right to carry laws. In states with more restrictive CCW laws, in a study between 1980 and 2009 gun homicides were 10% higher than the rest of the nation. States that disallow concealed carry have violent crime rates 11% higher than national averages. Criminals know where the easy targets are.

After passing their concealed carry law, Florida’s homicide rate fell from 36% above the national average to 4% below.

Like you say, the stat's prove it. Inviting a motor Vehicle owner into your friends and family circle is almost 3 times more likely to kill than a gun owner (and dozens of times more likely than a CCW carrier). 1 murder every 21,000 guns, 1 death every 7900 vehicles on the road. But you are more afraid of someone legally carrying a firearm, than someone with a vehicle. I get unbased fears. I remember my dad telling me how after seeing Jaws, he went out and sold all of his dive gear. The fact that a shark attack was VERY unlikely to happen didn't drive his decision, rather it was an emotional response.

And of course mass shootings. The University of Chicago had a study on them finding that multiple victim public shootings drop in states that pass shall-issue CCW legislation. And PoliceOne reported of all the alternatives to preventing mass public shootings, the majority of police officers polled believe that civilian concealed carry is the most effective.

Which explains why 66% of police chiefs believe CCW's reduce crime, and in a survey of 15,000 officers, 91% said concealed carry should be permitted to citizens “without question and without further restrictions".

 

[hunarcy]

Why does the average woman carry a gun? Penis envy.

Why does the average man carry a gun? Same reason.

Why does McRocket post? To troll

 

[Blues Man]

Ridiculous sophistry.

No one ‘needs’ to carry a gun.

Carrying a concealed firearm is a subjective, personal preference.

Just as I carry a concealed firearm not out of ‘need’ but due to preference.

What a great reason for putting people n danger where you tote.

Funny I've had a CC permit for almost 34 years and no one has ever been "in danger" because I was carrying. In fact no one ever even knew I was carrying.

The fact is that most people who carry concealed firearms know that it is an awesome responsibility and people with concealed carry permits are some of the most law abiding people in the country.

So you have NEVER mishandled, forgot to engage the safety, never left your gun out, never knew any toter that did.

If you sas no, then you are a liar.

Never once have I discharged any firearm accidentally.

My handguns don't have safeties

And it's obvious that you don't know very many people who carry

Two days ago at the grocery, the guy in front of us in the aisle had a handgun in the back of his pants.

I guess you will tell me he is a responsible toter?

If you could see it and your state does not allow open carry the no he wasn't.

Anyone who carries a handgun open or concealed and doesn't use a holster is an idiot.

And you'll find that my sentiment on this is one that vast majority of people with concealed carry permits agree with

 

[Blues Man]

Ridiculous sophistry.

No one ‘needs’ to carry a gun.

Carrying a concealed firearm is a subjective, personal preference.

Just as I carry a concealed firearm not out of ‘need’ but due to preference.

What a great reason for putting people n danger where you tote.

Just because YOU are irresponsible, untrustworthy, and deranged, don't project that onto everyone else.

First of all, you certainly can not guarantee that every toter is trustworthy, responsible & not deranged. I mean there is something not right about the urge to have your loaded firearm with you 24/7/365.

Second, accidents happen.
Of course, you are PERFECT but others can have misfires, leave their guns where they shouldn't, have guns taken from them, and if a temper tantrum , stsart shooting.

There is a risk. If you think there is not, then you are too God damn stupid to carry a loaded weapon.

You can't guarantee anything about anyone. And life is risk

If you want a risk free life you are going to be disappointed

Why do you think it is OK for you to pose a link to a family eating dinner at the next table.

I pose zero threat to any of my neighbors.

 

[Blues Man]

I have some bad news for ya, and that is people are around you with guns all the time.

You remind me of an elderly lady I was talking to at the grocery store while waiting in a long line a few years back. Somehow the subject of concealed carry came up with the lady and her daughter behind me, I and another customer were contributing the the chat.

It wasn't real serious and everybody was very nice, but the elderly lady said that citizens with guns scare her. I told her that there are people with guns--probably in the grocery store right now, and she would never know! She doubted my claim saying she could recognize a person who was armed fifty feet away.

So I smiled and asked "Am I a person who is armed?" She laughed and said "No you are not. You're too nice!" Then I opened my jacket. In the colder months, I use a shoulder holster. She just formed an O with her mouth as if she was going to scream, but laughed quickly afterwards.

She asked "Why are you carrying that thing?" I said "In case a bad guy comes in this store carrying the same thing. God forbid it happen, but if it did, you'll be glad your behind me in this line."

I think it gave her something to think about.

A bad guy behind you with a machine gun...will give you a heads up. You are delusional.and yet you cant beat the stats, countries with less guns and restrictions on them have less deaths, crimes by guns. I even i knew that as a kid overseas watching the news about gun violence in the US...35 years later I live here and it is still epidemic.

Because you are so brainwashed. You actually believe an inanimate object acts on it's own.

Not at all, dope.

One thing is certain though. One must possess a gun in order to use a gun. The possession of a gun increases the risk to everyone in the household becoming a victim of gun violence dramatically.

Spare us the lecture about "responsible" gun owners. The fact that there are irresponsible owners at all is a problem.

So where do you stop? Swimming pools kill people, knives kill people, blunt objects kill people, cars kill tens of thousands every year.

You are catching on slowly. Yes, one must possess a gun to use a gun, and that’s exactly the message we want to send to bad guys.


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A swimming pool is in one's yard, keep your gun in your yard.

A knife does not kill people iof you mishandle it. We use cars for a reason & people who drive them are tested & can lose their licenses. You had a fit when there was a attempt to pass a law taking guns from people with PFAs against them.

Most toters were never trained or tested & it is legal to tote under the influence.

People with concealed carry permits can lose those permits for any number of offenses which is why people with concealed carry permits are some of the most law abiding people in the country

 

[RealDave]

A bad guy behind you with a machine gun...will give you a heads up. You are delusional.and yet you cant beat the stats, countries with less guns and restrictions on them have less deaths, crimes by guns. I even i knew that as a kid overseas watching the news about gun violence in the US...35 years later I live here and it is still epidemic.

Because you are so brainwashed. You actually believe an inanimate object acts on it's own.

Not at all, dope.

One thing is certain though. One must possess a gun in order to use a gun. The possession of a gun increases the risk to everyone in the household becoming a victim of gun violence dramatically.

Spare us the lecture about "responsible" gun owners. The fact that there are irresponsible owners at all is a problem.

So where do you stop? Swimming pools kill people, knives kill people, blunt objects kill people, cars kill tens of thousands every year.

You are catching on slowly. Yes, one must possess a gun to use a gun, and that’s exactly the message we want to send to bad guys.


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A swimming pool is in one's yard, keep your gun in your yard.

A knife does not kill people iof you mishandle it. We use cars for a reason & people who drive them are tested & can lose their licenses. You had a fit when there was a attempt to pass a law taking guns from people with PFAs against them.

Most toters were never trained or tested & it is legal to tote under the influence.

People with concealed carry permits can lose those permits for any number of offenses which is why people with concealed carry permits are some of the most law abiding people in the country

And according to you just perfect. They have never, ever misfired, mishandled their gun, left it unattended.