Why do you need to carry a gun?

[Ray From Cleveland]

The eastern side of my state has rattlesnakes. I grew up learning how to stay away from them.

What I don't understand is why the need to kill the snake. Yes a copperhead is very dangerous and kills but that doesn't mean that it should be killed.

All that was needed was to call the proper animal authorities to have them come to remove the snake. Take it somewhere that it won't harm anyone.

It's not necessary to kill it. We didn't kill rattlesnakes just because we saw them. We just learned to stay away from them and if they got too close to homes to call the proper authorities to come to remove it.

You're not worried about what action to take when you are aware of danger, you are taking action for when you are not aware.

We don't have dangerous snakes up north. But a few times I've had problems with raccoons. The city or exterminator removes the coon, then shoots it when they get to a place where permissible. It's a state law that you don't relocate the animal because of the possibility of rabies. It's a state law they must be exterminated.


Don't worry about killing dangerous snakes. I'm sure there are plenty more around.

 

[Pilot1]

I carry for protection against the Second Amendment zealots.

And the only reason you still have that right is...….wait for it...…..the Second Amendment Zealots.

I'm pro-second Amendment, but I'm not a zealot. I believe in responsible gun ownership, zealots believe that anybody can carry a gun no matter what their intentions.

Not true. The NRA and law abiding gun owners promote legal use and carry of firearms, not CRIME by people using a firearm. What you call Zealots are people defending the right to LEGALLY and RESPONSIBLY own firearms and this right is under attack DAILY.

 

[SavannahMann]

The eastern side of my state has rattlesnakes. I grew up learning how to stay away from them.

What I don't understand is why the need to kill the snake. Yes a copperhead is very dangerous and kills but that doesn't mean that it should be killed.

All that was needed was to call the proper animal authorities to have them come to remove the snake. Take it somewhere that it won't harm anyone.

It's not necessary to kill it. We didn't kill rattlesnakes just because we saw them. We just learned to stay away from them and if they got too close to homes to call the proper authorities to come to remove it.

The county I live in, Animal Control could take days for a reptile. It is very rural, Fire or Paramedics is at least twenty minutes. Police can take much longer. You learn to take care of things yourself. That is why the law says you are well within your rights to kill venomous snakes. Non venomous is a $1,000 fine. Or possibly jail time.

 

[SavannahMann]

The eastern side of my state has rattlesnakes. I grew up learning how to stay away from them.

What I don't understand is why the need to kill the snake. Yes a copperhead is very dangerous and kills but that doesn't mean that it should be killed.

All that was needed was to call the proper animal authorities to have them come to remove the snake. Take it somewhere that it won't harm anyone.

It's not necessary to kill it. We didn't kill rattlesnakes just because we saw them. We just learned to stay away from them and if they got too close to homes to call the proper authorities to come to remove it.

I had a thought that would probably shock you. Armadillos in Georgia.

Armadillos, Georgia's only Shelled Mammal

Allow me to summarize. Armadillos are an invasive species, kill all of them you want. No restrictions in shooting them. No season limited hunting. Just any local ordinances regarding discharge of firearms.

Welcome to Georgia. If you wonder why Liberals have a tough time getting elected, remember the last popular Democrat was Zell Miller.

Oh and before you ask, no I don’t shoot them. I only kill if there is a threat to life, mine, my family, my neighbors, or our pets. I do not kill for fun.

 

[Dana7360]

The eastern side of my state has rattlesnakes. I grew up learning how to stay away from them.

What I don't understand is why the need to kill the snake. Yes a copperhead is very dangerous and kills but that doesn't mean that it should be killed.

All that was needed was to call the proper animal authorities to have them come to remove the snake. Take it somewhere that it won't harm anyone.

It's not necessary to kill it. We didn't kill rattlesnakes just because we saw them. We just learned to stay away from them and if they got too close to homes to call the proper authorities to come to remove it.

The county I live in, Animal Control could take days for a reptile. It is very rural, Fire or Paramedics is at least twenty minutes. Police can take much longer. You learn to take care of things yourself. That is why the law says you are well within your rights to kill venomous snakes. Non venomous is a $1,000 fine. Or possibly jail time.

The eastern side of my state that has rattlesnakes is very rural too. It's mostly desert and farms.

Yes it would take a while for the right person to get there but the snake isn't going anywhere and people know to stay away from it so it's not much of a threat to anyone. Just because it can't be removed at that instant second for your instant gratification doesn't mean it won't be properly removed.

I just don't think it's necessary to kill the snake. It can be moved to a safe place.

 

[Pogo]

The eastern side of my state has rattlesnakes. I grew up learning how to stay away from them.

What I don't understand is why the need to kill the snake. Yes a copperhead is very dangerous and kills but that doesn't mean that it should be killed.

All that was needed was to call the proper animal authorities to have them come to remove the snake. Take it somewhere that it won't harm anyone.

It's not necessary to kill it. We didn't kill rattlesnakes just because we saw them. We just learned to stay away from them and if they got too close to homes to call the proper authorities to come to remove it.

The county I live in, Animal Control could take days for a reptile. It is very rural, Fire or Paramedics is at least twenty minutes. Police can take much longer. You learn to take care of things yourself. That is why the law says you are well within your rights to kill venomous snakes. Non venomous is a $1,000 fine. Or possibly jail time.

The eastern side of my state that has rattlesnakes is very rural too. It's mostly desert and farms.

Yes it would take a while for the right person to get there but the snake isn't going anywhere and people know to stay away from it so it's not much of a threat to anyone. Just because it can't be removed at that instant second for your instant gratification doesn't mean it won't be properly removed.

I just don't think it's necessary to kill the snake. It can be moved to a safe place.

Part of the violence mentality I cited way earlier is this wacko idea that one deals with every little thing that may come up by shooting at it, blowing it up, destroying it. Very primitive.

 

[Rustic]

The eastern side of my state has rattlesnakes. I grew up learning how to stay away from them.

What I don't understand is why the need to kill the snake. Yes a copperhead is very dangerous and kills but that doesn't mean that it should be killed.

All that was needed was to call the proper animal authorities to have them come to remove the snake. Take it somewhere that it won't harm anyone.

It's not necessary to kill it. We didn't kill rattlesnakes just because we saw them. We just learned to stay away from them and if they got too close to homes to call the proper authorities to come to remove it.

Lol
Copperheads are not dangerous... dumbass

 

[SavannahMann]

The eastern side of my state has rattlesnakes. I grew up learning how to stay away from them.

What I don't understand is why the need to kill the snake. Yes a copperhead is very dangerous and kills but that doesn't mean that it should be killed.

All that was needed was to call the proper animal authorities to have them come to remove the snake. Take it somewhere that it won't harm anyone.

It's not necessary to kill it. We didn't kill rattlesnakes just because we saw them. We just learned to stay away from them and if they got too close to homes to call the proper authorities to come to remove it.

The county I live in, Animal Control could take days for a reptile. It is very rural, Fire or Paramedics is at least twenty minutes. Police can take much longer. You learn to take care of things yourself. That is why the law says you are well within your rights to kill venomous snakes. Non venomous is a $1,000 fine. Or possibly jail time.

The eastern side of my state that has rattlesnakes is very rural too. It's mostly desert and farms.

Yes it would take a while for the right person to get there but the snake isn't going anywhere and people know to stay away from it so it's not much of a threat to anyone. Just because it can't be removed at that instant second for your instant gratification doesn't mean it won't be properly removed.

I just don't think it's necessary to kill the snake. It can be moved to a safe place.

And when the snake kills my cats, or the neighbors dogs? On the off chance that the pet doesn’t die, who is going to pay the thousands of dollars for the vet bill? I presume you won’t be.

It is faster, easier, and safer to kill the threat than to pretend it is going to be fine. The State of Georgia agrees, and so do my neighbors who have to live with the threat.

 

[hadit]

I carry for protection against the Second Amendment zealots.

And the only reason you still have that right is...….wait for it...…..the Second Amendment Zealots.

I'm pro-second Amendment, but I'm not a zealot. I believe in responsible gun ownership, zealots believe that anybody can carry a gun no matter what their intentions.

There are not very many of those.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Not long ago, I walked to the mailbox, and along my route I saw a Copperhead snake. For those who are uninformed about this particular snake, it is venomous. A healthy adult probably will not die from the bite, providing that they receive medical attention promptly. However, children, and elderly, will find the bite far more deadly. Not to mention pets. Everyone on my street has dogs, and I have cats as well. Additionally my neighbor is in his 80’s, and he would probably find the bite life threatening.

So this snake was a danger to my pets, my neighbors, and the children who live a quarter mile away.

I pulled the pistol I habitually carry, and shot the snake. I was in my yard, in my neighborhood, if you can call it a neighborhood to live in such a rural area. Yet I was armed, because this is not the first wildlife threat I’ve found myself facing. We also have Wild Boar, which are very aggressive and potentially dangerous or deadly. Coyotes are heard from time to time as they roam along the wooded areas that take up a vast majority of the space out here.

I did not go looking for the snake. I did not go out of my way searching for it. I found it on my normal path, walking to the mailbox in my rural area, on my land. In my yard, the area with grass and such.

So why carry a gun? Because if I had to turn around and rush to the house to get the pistol, the snake may have moved, and been difficult, or impossible to locate. Perhaps he would have returned to the woods, where I sometimes walk, to check the property, but never in a hunting frame of mind. That snake might have bitten my dog, my cats, or my neighbors pets. It might have bitten my neighbor, the old man who has his mailbox positioned next to mine. It might have bitten a child. The best you could hope for is an expensive trip to the Emergency Room, sucking your cash out to pay for the care you would need to minimize the danger.

There is much truth in the old saying. It is better to have, and not need, than to need and not have. There are. Probably a dozen more Copperheads within two hundred yards of where I sit. In the woods, or marshy areas. Hunting and living, and just as much of a danger to the neighborhood as the one I shot. I did not break the law. In Georgia, you can kill venomous snakes, but not non venomous snakes. The experts tell you to take two steps back, and run away if you come across one. That is not my way. It leaves the problem for another. It leaves the danger for my 80 year old neighbor, his dog, or the dogs two doors down who meander over to say hello now and then.

It leaves the danger for the children, who ride their bikes up and down the dirt road.

So why do you need to carry a gun? Because there are more dangers than the odd robbery, or attempted murder. Because the world is filled with threats, two legged, four legged, and even no legs at all. With a gun, you have a much better chance of survival than without. With a gun, you do not guarantee survival, but you increase your odds dramatically.

Yes, accidents are going to happen, just as they do with cars and drivers. Yes, people are going to use the gun to criminally harm another. And yes, people who have guns are going to die before they can get the thing into play. I didn’t say it was a miracle answer, I just said it increases your odds of survival. No one can guarantee your safety or protection. The best that they, or I, can do is give you a fighting chance at survival. Be it from a Copperhead, or a Shitheaded thug. If you choose to take no action to protect yourself, that is your choice, and I’ll respect it. But do not try and take that right from others, because I won’t respect that.

Ridiculous sophistry.

No one ‘needs’ to carry a gun.

Carrying a concealed firearm is a subjective, personal preference.

Just as I carry a concealed firearm not out of ‘need’ but due to preference.

"No one ‘needs’ to carry a gun."
That's total bullshit.
EVERYBODY decent living among the filth in America's shitholes "NEEDS" to carry.

Would you summarily shoot someone who was speaking Spanish? So,women who was openly homosexual? So,wine dressed shabbily? Someone Black?

Interesting that you hear the word "filth" and immediately jump to people speaking Spanish, lesbians, and black people. Tells us a lot about you.

 

[Nosmo King]

Not long ago, I walked to the mailbox, and along my route I saw a Copperhead snake. For those who are uninformed about this particular snake, it is venomous. A healthy adult probably will not die from the bite, providing that they receive medical attention promptly. However, children, and elderly, will find the bite far more deadly. Not to mention pets. Everyone on my street has dogs, and I have cats as well. Additionally my neighbor is in his 80’s, and he would probably find the bite life threatening.

So this snake was a danger to my pets, my neighbors, and the children who live a quarter mile away.

I pulled the pistol I habitually carry, and shot the snake. I was in my yard, in my neighborhood, if you can call it a neighborhood to live in such a rural area. Yet I was armed, because this is not the first wildlife threat I’ve found myself facing. We also have Wild Boar, which are very aggressive and potentially dangerous or deadly. Coyotes are heard from time to time as they roam along the wooded areas that take up a vast majority of the space out here.

I did not go looking for the snake. I did not go out of my way searching for it. I found it on my normal path, walking to the mailbox in my rural area, on my land. In my yard, the area with grass and such.

So why carry a gun? Because if I had to turn around and rush to the house to get the pistol, the snake may have moved, and been difficult, or impossible to locate. Perhaps he would have returned to the woods, where I sometimes walk, to check the property, but never in a hunting frame of mind. That snake might have bitten my dog, my cats, or my neighbors pets. It might have bitten my neighbor, the old man who has his mailbox positioned next to mine. It might have bitten a child. The best you could hope for is an expensive trip to the Emergency Room, sucking your cash out to pay for the care you would need to minimize the danger.

There is much truth in the old saying. It is better to have, and not need, than to need and not have. There are. Probably a dozen more Copperheads within two hundred yards of where I sit. In the woods, or marshy areas. Hunting and living, and just as much of a danger to the neighborhood as the one I shot. I did not break the law. In Georgia, you can kill venomous snakes, but not non venomous snakes. The experts tell you to take two steps back, and run away if you come across one. That is not my way. It leaves the problem for another. It leaves the danger for my 80 year old neighbor, his dog, or the dogs two doors down who meander over to say hello now and then.

It leaves the danger for the children, who ride their bikes up and down the dirt road.

So why do you need to carry a gun? Because there are more dangers than the odd robbery, or attempted murder. Because the world is filled with threats, two legged, four legged, and even no legs at all. With a gun, you have a much better chance of survival than without. With a gun, you do not guarantee survival, but you increase your odds dramatically.

Yes, accidents are going to happen, just as they do with cars and drivers. Yes, people are going to use the gun to criminally harm another. And yes, people who have guns are going to die before they can get the thing into play. I didn’t say it was a miracle answer, I just said it increases your odds of survival. No one can guarantee your safety or protection. The best that they, or I, can do is give you a fighting chance at survival. Be it from a Copperhead, or a Shitheaded thug. If you choose to take no action to protect yourself, that is your choice, and I’ll respect it. But do not try and take that right from others, because I won’t respect that.

Ridiculous sophistry.

No one ‘needs’ to carry a gun.

Carrying a concealed firearm is a subjective, personal preference.

Just as I carry a concealed firearm not out of ‘need’ but due to preference.

"No one ‘needs’ to carry a gun."
That's total bullshit.
EVERYBODY decent living among the filth in America's shitholes "NEEDS" to carry.

Would you summarily shoot someone who was speaking Spanish? So,women who was openly homosexual? So,wine dressed shabbily? Someone Black?

Interesting that you hear the word "filth" and immediately jump to people speaking Spanish, lesbians, and black people. Tells us a lot about you.

Have you ever read any of Brokeloser's rants?

 

[Cecilie1200]

Walking to the mailbox with a gun seems excessive to me.

Do you guys take a shit with your guns too?

Why is it important to you?

I'm curious if you guys are so paranoid that you feel the need to carry a gun EVERYWHERE you go.

I should mention that a couple of months ago, a woman was physically attacked in the bathroom of a convenience store I stop at all the time. If you want to call not blithely assuming I'm safe "paranoid", then that just goes to show how misogynist you really are.

 

[Cecilie1200]

I'm curious if you guys are so paranoid that you feel the need to carry a gun EVERYWHERE you go.

I take it that you've never carried a gun.

Do you consider women who carry pepper spray in their purse as being "paranoid"?

I carry a small 9 mm pistol, like the one shown in the pic. It's small, lightweight and I don't even remember I'm carrying it. You probably think that carrying a handgun is an extreme burden; it is not.

I live in a pretty peaceful city, so never really felt the need to carry one.

I wouldn't consider women paranoid for carrying pepper spray.

Do you carry your gun when you're in your backyard or when you're in your home?

"I live in a pretty peaceful city" = "I've never been the victim of a crime, so I assume I won't ever be".

Why is it paranoid to carry a gun, but not to carry other forms of self-defense? What is the Chaos-approved amount of protection my life is worth (not that it's your job to decide that)?

 

[Cecilie1200]

Why don't you carry a gun when you're in your home or doing yard work? What if someone breaks into your house while you're on the toilet? Then what are you going to do? Better safe than sorry, no?

See, we both agree that there are times that carrying a gun is excessive. I think it's excessive to check your mail with a gun.

It's extremely unlikely that anyone is breaking into my home, especially considering that I have two large, German Shepherds with very inhospitable attitudes. I also have outdoor security cameras (Ring).

When I leave my home, I'm at the mercy of any thug that decides he's going to rob me of my car, possessions or my life. The first two I could handle, losing my life would have a devastating impact on my children's future. I don't carry for me, I carry for them.

Why is a woman carrying pepper spray NOT paranoid but a guy who carries a gun IS paranoid?

Because their lives aren't important enough to warrant actually harming some poor, unsuspecting criminal.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Why don't you carry a gun when you're in your home or doing yard work? What if someone breaks into your house while you're on the toilet? Then what are you going to do? Better safe than sorry, no?

See, we both agree that there are times that carrying a gun is excessive. I think it's excessive to check your mail with a gun.

It's extremely unlikely that anyone is breaking into my home, especially considering that I have two large, German Shepherds with very inhospitable attitudes. I also have outdoor security cameras (Ring).

When I leave my home, I'm at the mercy of any thug that decides he's going to rob me of my car, possessions or my life. The first two I could handle, losing my life would have a devastating impact on my children's future. I don't carry for me, I carry for them.

Why is a woman carrying pepper spray NOT paranoid but a guy who carries a gun IS paranoid?

It's extremely unlikely that someone breaks into your home. But it's not extremely unlikely that someone tries to murder you while you pick up your mail????

I think women are far more likely to run into dangerous men who have incentive to do something terrible to them. Especially pretty women.

I think you're a bigoted dimwit, just FYI. Men are just as likely to be targets of violent crime as women. And "pretty" has nothing whatsoever to do with the likelihood of being a crime victim.

 

[Cecilie1200]

If you need evidence of the wisdom of carrying a weapon, you need look no further than this Forum. Mental instability is extremely common today - consider these multiple posts over the course of just a few minutes, then remember this person likely carries the same confrontational attitude when he leaves the keyboard.

Will he snap and do something crazy? It seems quite likely...

It's extremely unlikely that someone breaks into your home. But it's not extremely unlikely that someone tries to murder you while you pick up your mail????

Walking to the mailbox with a gun seems excessive to me.
Do you guys take a shit with your guns too?

I'm curious if you guys are so paranoid that you feel the need to carry a gun EVERYWHERE you go.

Is there ever a moment you DON'T carry a gun?

Do you carry your gun when you're in your backyard or when you're in your home?

If your gun is comfortably holstered, then why not carry it while you're mowing the back lawn? What if a snake jumps out at you?

Watch out. People who disagree with you are out there and ready to pounce.

BOO!

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I think you spend a lot of time fantasizing that your personal experience represents the whole of human experience; if it hasn't happened to you, it "obviously" does not and cannot happen to anyone.

 

[basquebromance]

fuck Kyle Kashuv! fuck Dana Loesch! fuck Wayne Lapierre! fuck Chris Cox! fuck the NRA!

 

[Cecilie1200]

People who live in nice suburban areas and feel a need to be armed all the time....I consider them to be whackos.

Yea, no single woman needs to carry a gun. Talk about a paranoid bitch, right?

Well, crime never happens in "nice suburban areas", dontcha know?

 

[Cecilie1200]

I had edited.

I don't have a mortgage but I nevertheless carry homeowner's insurance.

I also don't have car payments, but I nevertheless carry more than the state-mandated minimum.

Life is full of risks and we all have to decide for ourselves how much we're going to invest in mitigating those risks. The odds of you being assaulted while walking in your neighborhood don't necessarily reflect the odds for someone else walking in theirs. It's presumptuous for you to claim that, one who carries a gun to their mailbox, is "paranoid".

I'm in a safe neighborhood.

Are you?

My sister lives in a "safe" neighborhood, with lots of well-off, law-abiding residents. That's presumably why the people who started a rash of burglaries in the area chose it. Not much worth stealing from poor people.

 

[Cecilie1200]

I'm in a safe neighborhood. Are you?

Pretty much, although we were recently victimized by a gang that would drive out from the city into suburban communities like mine in order to burglarize homes, break into cars and rob people. Eventually, they were caught.

Then I don't think I'm being too presumptuous.

I agree that there are places where one should carry a gun while going out to check the mail. But I don't think I'm being overly presumptuous when I say that I think some gun carriers are excessively paranoid when they live in a safe neighborhood or, in this case, a rural area with snakes, and feel the need to carry while checking the mail.

See if they're describing constant violence in their neighborhoods, that's one thing. But it's constantly a mentality, like yours, of preferring to be safe vs sorry. And I get that. I just think it's excessive is all. Just like how you don't carry a gun when you take a shit even though a pack of ninja assassins could bypass your security system, break into your house, kill your dogs, and then kill you. It could happen, it's just not likely. Nor is it likely for you to get assaulted when you go out to check the mail in a safe neighborhood.

You don't think demanding that people justify their self-defense choices to you, so that you can mock and dismiss them, is "too presumptuous"? We clearly have different definitions of that phrase.

I don't think I'M being too presumptuous in saying it's none of your damned business how other people choose to live their lives and exercise their rights.