Why Don't Atheists Contribute To Society?

[Wake]

I think the original post is both silly and unreasonable, personally.

It starts by making the mistake of broad-brushing a whole group of people.

A far more reasonable and meritorious post would ask why some athiests and some religious individuals don't contribute to society. And it is a good question why some people simply don't/won't contribute to society.

But... the nonsense the OP is peddling about how atheists don't contribute to society is both wrong, zealous, and at worst... deceitful. Imagine if he said 'Christians,' 'Jews,' or 'Muslims' instead. If you are a religious person reading this thread, you would not want to be unfairly labeled this same way. Let's step back and acknowledge that EVERY group has its bad apples. That, in my humble opinion, is fair.

 

[Derideo_Te]

psst...bill gates and the two other atheist philanthropists are just a drop in the bucket when it comes to the centuries of giving that Christians have participated in..and still participate in.

Which is why they mention them by name, and then carefully fail to allude to all the things done in the name of Christianity through the millenia...in fact...he completely disregards religious contributions, lol. He doesnt' count them.

Well yeah, if you don't count the things Churches have done, I guess the atheists look like they give more.

Freaking morons.

"In other areas of philanthropy it can be hard to determine if the sources of funding are more secular or religious. For example, how do we tell who is making donations for medical research? I don’t consider it generosity or philanthropy when individuals donate to a church."

Lolol...Atheists are the most generous 8212 even without heavenly reward

Christians give to themselves, KG! Atheists give to humanity without regard to their creed.

Your failed premise was that there was no evidence that atheists help the less fortunate. Your nose was rubbed in the facts and your response was to pee on the carpet.

 

[Wake]

Some Christians give to all, and some don't. Same with atheists.

I suspect it is true that many different kinds of people donate their own money to help people in need of it.

 

[koshergrl]

psst...bill gates and the two other atheist philanthropists are just a drop in the bucket when it comes to the centuries of giving that Christians have participated in..and still participate in.

Which is why they mention them by name, and then carefully fail to allude to all the things done in the name of Christianity through the millenia...in fact...he completely disregards religious contributions, lol. He doesnt' count them.

Well yeah, if you don't count the things Churches have done, I guess the atheists look like they give more.

Freaking morons.

"In other areas of philanthropy it can be hard to determine if the sources of funding are more secular or religious. For example, how do we tell who is making donations for medical research? I don’t consider it generosity or philanthropy when individuals donate to a church."

Lolol...Atheists are the most generous 8212 even without heavenly reward

Christians give to themselves, KG! Atheists give to humanity without regard to their creed.

Your failed premise was that there was no evidence that atheists help the less fortunate. Your nose was rubbed in the facts and your response was to pee on the carpet.

So you think that charity should be ignored if it's given to the children of Christians?

Yup, atheists are certainly a giving bunch, lolol.

 

[koshergrl]

No wonder you think atheists give as much. You just excise those poor christian kids right out of the equation. "We don't give to them, so we aren't going to count it when Christians give to them. They don't count."

The 50 Largest U.S. Charities List - Forbes

 

[koshergrl]

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Concerning the issue of atheism and charity, charitable giving by atheists and agnostics in America is significantly less than by theists, according to a study by the Barna Group:

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The typical no-faith American donated just $200 in 2006, which is more than seven times less than the amount contributed by the prototypical active-faith adult ($1500). Even when church-based giving is subtracted from the equation, active-faith adults donated twice as many dollars last year as did atheists and agnostics. In fact, while just 7% of active-faith adults failed to contribute any personal funds in 2006, that compares with 22% among the no-faith adults.[1]

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A comprehensive study by Harvard University professor Robert Putnam found that religious people are more charitable than their irreligious counterparts.[2][3] The study revealed that forty percent of worship service attending Americans volunteer regularly to help the poor and elderly as opposed to 15% of Americans who never attend services.[4][5] Moreover, religious individuals are more likely than non-religious individuals to volunteer for school and youth programs (36% vs. 15%), a neighborhood or civic group (26% vs. 13%), and for health care (21% vs. 13%).[6][7]

Arthur C. Brooks wrote in Policy Review regarding data collected in the Social Capital Community Benchmark Survey (SCCBS) (data collected by in 2000 by researchers at universities throughout the United States and the Roper Center for Public Opinion Research):

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The differences in charity between secular and religious people are dramatic. Religious people are 25 percentage points more likely than secularists to donate money (91 percent to 66 percent) and 23 points more likely to volunteer time (67 percent to 44 percent). And, consistent with the findings of other writers, these data show that practicing a religion is more important than the actual religion itself in predicting charitable behavior. For example, among those who attend worship services regularly, 92 percent of Protestants give charitably, compared with 91 percent of Catholics, 91 percent of Jews, and 89 percent from other religions.[8]

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ABC News reported:

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...the single biggest predictor of whether someone will be charitable is their religious participation. Religious people are more likely to give to charity, and when they give, they give more money: four times as much. And Arthur Brooks told me that giving goes beyond their own religious organization: "Actually, the truth is that they're giving to more than their churches," he says. "The religious Americans are more likely to give to every kind of cause and charity, including explicitly non-religious charities."[9]

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In 2009, Pew Research Forum reported that a comprehensive study by Harvard University professor Robert Putnam found that religious people are more charitable than their irreligious counterparts.[10][11] The study revealed that forty percent of worship service attending Americans volunteer regularly to help the poor and elderly as opposed to 15% of Americans who never attend services.[12][13] Moreover, religious individuals are more likely than non-religious individuals to volunteer for school and youth programs (36% vs. 15%), a neighborhood or civic group (26% vs. 13%), and for health care (21% vs. 13%).[14][15]

Given that atheistic evolutionary thinking has engendered social darwinism and given that the proponents of atheism have no rational basis for morality in their ideology, the immoral views that atheists often hold and the low per capita giving of American atheists is not surprising."

Atheism and charity - Conservapedia

 

[Hollie]

"
Concerning the issue of atheism and charity, charitable giving by atheists and agnostics in America is significantly less than by theists, according to a study by the Barna Group:

“

The typical no-faith American donated just $200 in 2006, which is more than seven times less than the amount contributed by the prototypical active-faith adult ($1500). Even when church-based giving is subtracted from the equation, active-faith adults donated twice as many dollars last year as did atheists and agnostics. In fact, while just 7% of active-faith adults failed to contribute any personal funds in 2006, that compares with 22% among the no-faith adults.[1]

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[TBODY] [/TBODY]

A comprehensive study by Harvard University professor Robert Putnam found that religious people are more charitable than their irreligious counterparts.[2][3] The study revealed that forty percent of worship service attending Americans volunteer regularly to help the poor and elderly as opposed to 15% of Americans who never attend services.[4][5] Moreover, religious individuals are more likely than non-religious individuals to volunteer for school and youth programs (36% vs. 15%), a neighborhood or civic group (26% vs. 13%), and for health care (21% vs. 13%).[6][7]

Arthur C. Brooks wrote in Policy Review regarding data collected in the Social Capital Community Benchmark Survey (SCCBS) (data collected by in 2000 by researchers at universities throughout the United States and the Roper Center for Public Opinion Research):

“

The differences in charity between secular and religious people are dramatic. Religious people are 25 percentage points more likely than secularists to donate money (91 percent to 66 percent) and 23 points more likely to volunteer time (67 percent to 44 percent). And, consistent with the findings of other writers, these data show that practicing a religion is more important than the actual religion itself in predicting charitable behavior. For example, among those who attend worship services regularly, 92 percent of Protestants give charitably, compared with 91 percent of Catholics, 91 percent of Jews, and 89 percent from other religions.[8]

”

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

ABC News reported:

“

...the single biggest predictor of whether someone will be charitable is their religious participation. Religious people are more likely to give to charity, and when they give, they give more money: four times as much. And Arthur Brooks told me that giving goes beyond their own religious organization: "Actually, the truth is that they're giving to more than their churches," he says. "The religious Americans are more likely to give to every kind of cause and charity, including explicitly non-religious charities."[9]

”

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

In 2009, Pew Research Forum reported that a comprehensive study by Harvard University professor Robert Putnam found that religious people are more charitable than their irreligious counterparts.[10][11] The study revealed that forty percent of worship service attending Americans volunteer regularly to help the poor and elderly as opposed to 15% of Americans who never attend services.[12][13] Moreover, religious individuals are more likely than non-religious individuals to volunteer for school and youth programs (36% vs. 15%), a neighborhood or civic group (26% vs. 13%), and for health care (21% vs. 13%).[14][15]

Given that atheistic evolutionary thinking has engendered social darwinism and given that the proponents of atheism have no rational basis for morality in their ideology, the immoral views that atheists often hold and the low per capita giving of American atheists is not surprising."

Atheism and charity - Conservapedia

Wow. Yet another demonstration of the goofy slogans and cliches furthered by the religiously insane.

 

[the_human_being]

No, but as you should be able to determine on your own, the subject of the thread has dramatically changed.

You are the OP and you began by ignorantly bashing atheists and when it was demonstrated that atheists do just as much as theists you tried to change the topic.

So we will take that as your tacit admission that you were proven wrong and lack the basic honesty and integrity necessary to admit as much.

Have a nice day.

It has NEVER been demonstrated that atheists do just as much as theists.

Ever. Inf act, just the opposite. Talk about lacking basic honesty.

As ever, your ignorance is always on display!

Atheists are the most generous 8212 even without heavenly reward

Atheists, non-believers, secular humanists, skeptics—the whole gamut of the godless have emerged in recent years as inarguably the most generous benefactors on the globe. That’s right. Hordes of heretics are the world’s biggest damned philanthropists. Both individually and in groups, heathen infidels are topping the fundraising charts.

First, the facts.

The current most charitable individuals in the United States, based on “Estimated Lifetime Giving,” are:

1) Warren Buffett (atheist, donated $40.785 billion to “health, education, humanitarian causes”)

2) Bill & Melinda Gates (atheists, donated $27.602 billion to “global health and development, education”)

3) George Soros (atheist, donated $6.936 billion to “open and democratic societies”)

A century ago, one of the USA’s leading philanthropists was Andrew Carnegie, atheist.

Regarding “group efforts”—Kiva.org, the micro-financing organization that has distributed $261 million to people in 61 nations, has “lending teams” that post their generous efforts online. The leading team on November 22, 2011, is “Atheists, Agnostics, Skeptics, Freethinkers, Secular Humanists, and the Non-Religious.” These 18,127 benevolent blasphemers have lent $5,623,750 in 187,920 loans. Their simple motto is: “We loan because we care about the suffering of human beings.”

Here let me acknowledge you to keep you from further whining and crying. I acknowledge what you claim you have done to aid your fellow man. You are a great American and should be honored on the TODAY SHOW. ATTABOY!! WHEEE!! CHEERS!!
Happy now? You are the THIRD atheist who has claimed he dis anything at all. In fact, one atheist even admitted you folks don't care about anyone or anything. There now, calm down. You've gotten your little pat on the head. Run along and play now.

 

[G.T.]

Troll smells like troll shit, prolly worth bout as much.

 

[the_human_being]

No, but as you should be able to determine on your own, the subject of the thread has dramatically changed.

You are the OP and you began by ignorantly bashing atheists and when it was demonstrated that atheists do just as much as theists you tried to change the topic.

So we will take that as your tacit admission that you were proven wrong and lack the basic honesty and integrity necessary to admit as much.

Have a nice day.

It has NEVER been demonstrated that atheists do just as much as theists.

Ever. Inf act, just the opposite. Talk about lacking basic honesty.

As ever, your ignorance is always on display!

Atheists are the most generous 8212 even without heavenly reward

Atheists, non-believers, secular humanists, skeptics—the whole gamut of the godless have emerged in recent years as inarguably the most generous benefactors on the globe. That’s right. Hordes of heretics are the world’s biggest damned philanthropists. Both individually and in groups, heathen infidels are topping the fundraising charts.

First, the facts.

The current most charitable individuals in the United States, based on “Estimated Lifetime Giving,” are:

1) Warren Buffett (atheist, donated $40.785 billion to “health, education, humanitarian causes”)

2) Bill & Melinda Gates (atheists, donated $27.602 billion to “global health and development, education”)

3) George Soros (atheist, donated $6.936 billion to “open and democratic societies”)

A century ago, one of the USA’s leading philanthropists was Andrew Carnegie, atheist.

Regarding “group efforts”—Kiva.org, the micro-financing organization that has distributed $261 million to people in 61 nations, has “lending teams” that post their generous efforts online. The leading team on November 22, 2011, is “Atheists, Agnostics, Skeptics, Freethinkers, Secular Humanists, and the Non-Religious.” These 18,127 benevolent blasphemers have lent $5,623,750 in 187,920 loans. Their simple motto is: “We loan because we care about the suffering of human beings.”

 

[sealybobo]

It has NEVER been demonstrated that atheists do just as much as theists.

Ever. Inf act, just the opposite. Talk about lacking basic honesty.

Interesting... Where and how was it demonstrated?

Probably because there are more of them than there are us.

 

[sealybobo]

Troll smells like troll shit, prolly worth bout as much.

My tricep looks like a deer hoof.

 

[the_human_being]

I don't know about the others but Bill Gates is an agnostic. He is not an atheist. In fact, Bill has stated that religion is a good thing. Let's at least post something that can't as easily be checked as the false statement that Gates is an atheist can be checked.

 

[sealybobo]

psst...bill gates and the two other atheist philanthropists are just a drop in the bucket when it comes to the centuries of giving that Christians have participated in..and still participate in.

Which is why they mention them by name, and then carefully fail to allude to all the things done in the name of Christianity through the millenia...in fact...he completely disregards religious contributions, lol. He doesnt' count them.

Well yeah, if you don't count the things Churches have done, I guess the atheists look like they give more.

Freaking morons.

"In other areas of philanthropy it can be hard to determine if the sources of funding are more secular or religious. For example, how do we tell who is making donations for medical research? I don’t consider it generosity or philanthropy when individuals donate to a church."

Lolol...Atheists are the most generous 8212 even without heavenly reward

Its a lot easier to give when everything you make is tax free. Us atheists need to start a church for the write offs. Why do you think Scientology became a church?

 

[the_human_being]

It has NEVER been demonstrated that atheists do just as much as theists.

Ever. Inf act, just the opposite. Talk about lacking basic honesty.

Interesting... Where and how was it demonstrated?

Probably because there are more of them than there are us.

You know better than offering something that makes common sense to an atheists.

 

[the_human_being]

psst...bill gates and the two other atheist philanthropists are just a drop in the bucket when it comes to the centuries of giving that Christians have participated in..and still participate in.

Which is why they mention them by name, and then carefully fail to allude to all the things done in the name of Christianity through the millenia...in fact...he completely disregards religious contributions, lol. He doesnt' count them.

Well yeah, if you don't count the things Churches have done, I guess the atheists look like they give more.

Freaking morons.

"In other areas of philanthropy it can be hard to determine if the sources of funding are more secular or religious. For example, how do we tell who is making donations for medical research? I don’t consider it generosity or philanthropy when individuals donate to a church."

Lolol...Atheists are the most generous 8212 even without heavenly reward

Its a lot easier to give when everything you make is tax free. Us atheists need to start a church for the write offs. Why do you think Scientology became a church?

Can I be pastor? I'd like to make a slew of cd's for thirty-five cents each and sell them on television for three for $100.00

 

[sealybobo]

I don't know about the others but Bill Gates is an agnostic. He is not an atheist. In fact, Bill has stated that religion is a good thing. Let's at least post something that can't as easily be checked as the false statement that Gates is an atheist can be checked.

So Bill doesn't believe religion he just thinks it's a good lie? Theists think the world would fall apart if people stopped believing in god.

I'm all for telling kids the lie just like we do Santa, but after a certain age we should not confuse them by lying to them and fucking with their heads and seeing if we can get them to believe any story we tell them no matter how impossible.

If my kid questions the Adam and Eve story or even the Jesus story I'm going to tell them those are just allegories.

But then “Now, if the book of Genesis is an allegory, then sin is an allegory, the Fall is an allegory and the need for a Savior is an allegory – but if we are all descendants of an allegory, where does that leave us? It destroys the foundation of all Christian doctrine—it destroys the foundation of the gospel.” - Ken Ham

 

[Rikurzhen]

When Hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans, Christian churches gathered up water and toiletries and other basic human needs and handed out to the storm victims. When Ivan hit, they did the same thing. It has happened over and over whenever their has been a natural disaster. Even individual families who have fell victim to home fires, floods, etc., have been helped by the Church.

Where are the atheists in all this?

I'm an Atheist and I've probably done more to benefit humanity than most on this board. It's not really Atheists that are the problem, it liberals. While people were still trapped in the Superdome, liberals sent a bus into the city to rescue trapped dogs.

 

[the_human_being]

psst...bill gates and the two other atheist philanthropists are just a drop in the bucket when it comes to the centuries of giving that Christians have participated in..and still participate in.

Which is why they mention them by name, and then carefully fail to allude to all the things done in the name of Christianity through the millenia...in fact...he completely disregards religious contributions, lol. He doesnt' count them.

Well yeah, if you don't count the things Churches have done, I guess the atheists look like they give more.

Freaking morons.

"In other areas of philanthropy it can be hard to determine if the sources of funding are more secular or religious. For example, how do we tell who is making donations for medical research? I don’t consider it generosity or philanthropy when individuals donate to a church."

Lolol...Atheists are the most generous 8212 even without heavenly reward

Its a lot easier to give when everything you make is tax free. Us atheists need to start a church for the write offs. Why do you think Scientology became a church?

Proves you guys are all wrong when you all spout off that you're smarter than Christians. Follow the money.

 

[sealybobo]

psst...bill gates and the two other atheist philanthropists are just a drop in the bucket when it comes to the centuries of giving that Christians have participated in..and still participate in.

Which is why they mention them by name, and then carefully fail to allude to all the things done in the name of Christianity through the millenia...in fact...he completely disregards religious contributions, lol. He doesnt' count them.

Well yeah, if you don't count the things Churches have done, I guess the atheists look like they give more.

Freaking morons.

"In other areas of philanthropy it can be hard to determine if the sources of funding are more secular or religious. For example, how do we tell who is making donations for medical research? I don’t consider it generosity or philanthropy when individuals donate to a church."

Lolol...Atheists are the most generous 8212 even without heavenly reward

Its a lot easier to give when everything you make is tax free. Us atheists need to start a church for the write offs. Why do you think Scientology became a church?

Can I be pastor? I'd like to make a slew of cd's for thirty-five cents each and sell them on television for three for $100.00

You would sell things like The Cosmos or George Carlin on why Religion is the greatest bs story ever told.