Why I am voting for Obama again

what have I ever done that would give you the idea that I was "tech savvy"? I had a PGA tour event down here I attended one day.. and then, the next, I opened up my youtube account and the next, I finally figured out how to use iMovie to make a video. Are you REALLY suggesting that I somehow FORGED a US Military Retired ID card, had my picture added to it... clearly a picture where I weighed more than I do today... and then showed it to you all? Really? Can you honestly say that with a straight face?

You appeared rather tech savvy in your video, just an observation. ;) Forged ID in Mexico? If you research what one looks like, I'm guessing it's probably not that hard to come by if you know the right people. I give you the benefit of the doubt tho, not that it matters one way or the other for me. Your political views are certainly not alligned with 99% of your military peers, and that's all that really matters.

I am going to make a wager on a Tuesday, research what a retired military ID looks like... have one forged ... get an old picture of myself and have the whole thing laminated and posted on Youtube on Thursday? whatever.

I somehow knew that all warrior102's butt buddies would rally around him. No big surprise there. Yuur cohort is a welcher... how do folks on your side of the aisle view THEM? Obviously, with high regard.

pathetic.

And I'd like a link from you that confirms the 99% of the military not being democratic... or admit that you pulled that number out of your oft explored ass.

You can do anything on a computer hooked up to the internet in minutes if your computer smart. Hell you can even make a functioning firearm with a 3D copier
 
those of you that would vote for this Muslim again, are going to cause all of us to suffer, and you will also suffer. I can't understand anyone wanting to reelect this Muslim who never should have been elected the first time. Haven't you people got the picture yet????????

Obama Admits He Is A Muslim - YouTube
 
You appeared rather tech savvy in your video, just an observation. ;) Forged ID in Mexico? If you research what one looks like, I'm guessing it's probably not that hard to come by if you know the right people. I give you the benefit of the doubt tho, not that it matters one way or the other for me. Your political views are certainly not alligned with 99% of your military peers, and that's all that really matters.

I am going to make a wager on a Tuesday, research what a retired military ID looks like... have one forged ... get an old picture of myself and have the whole thing laminated and posted on Youtube on Thursday? whatever.

I somehow knew that all warrior102's butt buddies would rally around him. No big surprise there. Yuur cohort is a welcher... how do folks on your side of the aisle view THEM? Obviously, with high regard.

pathetic.

And I'd like a link from you that confirms the 99% of the military not being democratic... or admit that you pulled that number out of your oft explored ass.

You can do anything on a computer hooked up to the internet in minutes if your computer smart. Hell you can even make a functioning firearm with a 3D copier

gosh...from the guy who showed me the youtube video and suggested that I use that method to prove my case... and from the same guy whose first response was "nice video", I certainly didn't expect THAT. I guess I am not surprised that warrior102 reneged on his bet... or that others have come to his defense... I guess I just didn't think YOU would be one of them. Wow. The guy makes a straight up bet. I show him the evidence, and he backs out... and you are sitting there justifying and rationalizing that sort of behavior. wow. just wow.
 
I am going to make a wager on a Tuesday, research what a retired military ID looks like... have one forged ... get an old picture of myself and have the whole thing laminated and posted on Youtube on Thursday? whatever.

I somehow knew that all warrior102's butt buddies would rally around him. No big surprise there. Yuur cohort is a welcher... how do folks on your side of the aisle view THEM? Obviously, with high regard.

pathetic.

And I'd like a link from you that confirms the 99% of the military not being democratic... or admit that you pulled that number out of your oft explored ass.

You can do anything on a computer hooked up to the internet in minutes if your computer smart. Hell you can even make a functioning firearm with a 3D copier

gosh...from the guy who showed me the youtube video and suggested that I use that method to prove my case... and from the same guy whose first response was "nice video", I certainly didn't expect THAT. I guess I am not surprised that warrior102 reneged on his bet... or that others have come to his defense... I guess I just didn't think YOU would be one of them. Wow. The guy makes a straight up bet. I show him the evidence, and he backs out... and you are sitting there justifying and rationalizing that sort of behavior. wow. just wow.

Stop wetting yourself.

Yeah yeah. It LOOKED to you like a wager had been accepted.

But he says it wasn't. And there is a view of what he posted that is consistent with sarcasm.

So stop braying and crying over a miscommunication on the interwebz.
 
I am going to make a wager on a Tuesday, research what a retired military ID looks like... have one forged ... get an old picture of myself and have the whole thing laminated and posted on Youtube on Thursday? whatever.

I somehow knew that all warrior102's butt buddies would rally around him. No big surprise there. Yuur cohort is a welcher... how do folks on your side of the aisle view THEM? Obviously, with high regard.

pathetic.

And I'd like a link from you that confirms the 99% of the military not being democratic... or admit that you pulled that number out of your oft explored ass.

You can do anything on a computer hooked up to the internet in minutes if your computer smart. Hell you can even make a functioning firearm with a 3D copier

gosh...from the guy who showed me the youtube video and suggested that I use that method to prove my case... and from the same guy whose first response was "nice video", I certainly didn't expect THAT. I guess I am not surprised that warrior102 reneged on his bet... or that others have come to his defense... I guess I just didn't think YOU would be one of them. Wow. The guy makes a straight up bet. I show him the evidence, and he backs out... and you are sitting there justifying and rationalizing that sort of behavior. wow. just wow.

I just pointed you in the right direction you did however do a great job on the video. Just like an expert would do.
 
You can do anything on a computer hooked up to the internet in minutes if your computer smart. Hell you can even make a functioning firearm with a 3D copier

gosh...from the guy who showed me the youtube video and suggested that I use that method to prove my case... and from the same guy whose first response was "nice video", I certainly didn't expect THAT. I guess I am not surprised that warrior102 reneged on his bet... or that others have come to his defense... I guess I just didn't think YOU would be one of them. Wow. The guy makes a straight up bet. I show him the evidence, and he backs out... and you are sitting there justifying and rationalizing that sort of behavior. wow. just wow.

Stop wetting yourself.

Yeah yeah. It LOOKED to you like a wager had been accepted.

But he says it wasn't. And there is a view of what he posted that is consistent with sarcasm.

So stop braying and crying over a miscommunication on the interwebz.
So... if I say, "hey, if I mow your lawn, will you pay me $5" and you reply : "sure. go for it"... that isn't a verbal contract?

Look... I had a pretty good idea going into this bet that this guy was going to welch on it. I was, however, hoping that, regardless of party affiliation on here, that people would see that for what it was and castigate him for it. silly me.

now wipe that warrior jizz off your chin and move on.
 
You can do anything on a computer hooked up to the internet in minutes if your computer smart. Hell you can even make a functioning firearm with a 3D copier

gosh...from the guy who showed me the youtube video and suggested that I use that method to prove my case... and from the same guy whose first response was "nice video", I certainly didn't expect THAT. I guess I am not surprised that warrior102 reneged on his bet... or that others have come to his defense... I guess I just didn't think YOU would be one of them. Wow. The guy makes a straight up bet. I show him the evidence, and he backs out... and you are sitting there justifying and rationalizing that sort of behavior. wow. just wow.

I just pointed you in the right direction you did however do a great job on the video. Just like an expert would do.

wow. just wow. I never thought you would approve of that sort of welching behavior. that surprises me.
 
gosh...from the guy who showed me the youtube video and suggested that I use that method to prove my case... and from the same guy whose first response was "nice video", I certainly didn't expect THAT. I guess I am not surprised that warrior102 reneged on his bet... or that others have come to his defense... I guess I just didn't think YOU would be one of them. Wow. The guy makes a straight up bet. I show him the evidence, and he backs out... and you are sitting there justifying and rationalizing that sort of behavior. wow. just wow.

I just pointed you in the right direction you did however do a great job on the video. Just like an expert would do.

wow. just wow. I never thought you would approve of that sort of welching behavior. that surprises me.

Wow, just wow!

What are you ?

A fucking cheerleader?

Is Knarley in your vocabulary too ?

Dude -- you are creepy and odd.

Seriously.

Have a nice night.
 
gosh...from the guy who showed me the youtube video and suggested that I use that method to prove my case... and from the same guy whose first response was "nice video", I certainly didn't expect THAT. I guess I am not surprised that warrior102 reneged on his bet... or that others have come to his defense... I guess I just didn't think YOU would be one of them. Wow. The guy makes a straight up bet. I show him the evidence, and he backs out... and you are sitting there justifying and rationalizing that sort of behavior. wow. just wow.

I just pointed you in the right direction you did however do a great job on the video. Just like an expert would do.

wow. just wow. I never thought you would approve of that sort of welching behavior. that surprises me.

I've done my part I told warrior you were legit or appeared so, now there is a second issue here. But as I said things do look like you're what you said you were,

However, the second issue is was there an actual bet? I haven't been following the discussion between you two just came in it between the he said he said basic discussion board post. If there was a bet then yes warrior should hold to his word.

I will say this when warrior said he will wait for the video was not accepting the bet.
Was there an actual agreement between you both?
 
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It took you a while to come up with that video for someone as tech savvy as you seem to be, so that adds a little to the pessimism I think.

I am wondering if I should upload his link/vignette to the USNA Facebook alum webpage for comment.

Thoughts??

So I take it no objections to forwarding this to the Class of '72 for their Opening General Session breakfast video??

Last chance for comments

Thanks.
 
I just pointed you in the right direction you did however do a great job on the video. Just like an expert would do.

wow. just wow. I never thought you would approve of that sort of welching behavior. that surprises me.

I've done my part I told warrior you were legit or appeared so, now there is a second issue here. But as I said things do look like you're what you said you were,

However, the second issue is was there an actual bet? I haven't been following the discussion between you two just came in it between the he said he said basic discussion board post. If there was a bet then yes warrior should hold to his word.

I will say this when warrior said he will wait for the video was not accepting the bet.
Was there an actual agreement between you both?

my question to him posed in post #306... his answer to that question is in post #309.

You tell me.
 
What in the fuck am I going to do with $10,000 in Food Stamps, asswipe?

more baseless insults... all hat and no cattle. why am I not surprised? pussy.

what a fucking loser.

Just make a PDF of your DD214 and white out the name and SSN. You want everyone here to believe your a retired o-what?

you obviously have not been following along. if you really want to contribute, go back and read the thread and then respond. thank you.
 
WHY I AM VOTING FOR OBAMA AGAIN: I think the reason that most Obama supporters continue to support him has to do with their basic political philosophies. The democratic party and the republican party have vastly different views on a host of major issues: foreign affairs, women's rights, environmental protection, global warming, energy policy, family planning, gay rights, gun control, social justice, tax policy, and on and on. It is not necessarily that any of us are THRILLED with the performance of Obama in his first term, but that doesn't change the fact that we are vehemently opposed to most- if not all - of the GOP's positions on that long list of issues. Obama shares the political philosophy of democrats, and if we reelect him, he may not be successful in moving all or most or even hardly any of those issues down a path that democrats would approve, but electing Romney will CERTAINLY stop any movement on those issues in the direction that democrats want to see them advance, and, instead, move those issues down the path that the GOP wants them to advance.

It is nothing more or less than the standard clash of political philosophies that ought not to come as a surprise to anyone. If one has a vision for the future of our country, one will vote for the party that will attempt to move the country along a path that more closely resembles that vision.

WE just do the simple arithmatic that right wing supporter cannot do.
 
WHY I AM VOTING FOR OBAMA AGAIN: I think the reason that most Obama supporters continue to support him has to do with their basic political philosophies. The democratic party and the republican party have vastly different views on a host of major issues: foreign affairs, women's rights, environmental protection, global warming, energy policy, family planning, gay rights, gun control, social justice, tax policy, and on and on. It is not necessarily that any of us are THRILLED with the performance of Obama in his first term, but that doesn't change the fact that we are vehemently opposed to most- if not all - of the GOP's positions on that long list of issues. Obama shares the political philosophy of democrats, and if we reelect him, he may not be successful in moving all or most or even hardly any of those issues down a path that democrats would approve, but electing Romney will CERTAINLY stop any movement on those issues in the direction that democrats want to see them advance, and, instead, move those issues down the path that the GOP wants them to advance.

It is nothing more or less than the standard clash of political philosophies that ought not to come as a surprise to anyone. If one has a vision for the future of our country, one will vote for the party that will attempt to move the country along a path that more closely resembles that vision.

WE just do the simple arithmatic that right wing supporter cannot do.

exactly. wasn't Clinton awesome the other night? Biden and Obama too!
 
WHY I AM VOTING FOR OBAMA AGAIN: I think the reason that most Obama supporters continue to support him has to do with their basic political philosophies. The democratic party and the republican party have vastly different views on a host of major issues: foreign affairs, women's rights, environmental protection, global warming, energy policy, family planning, gay rights, gun control, social justice, tax policy, and on and on. It is not necessarily that any of us are THRILLED with the performance of Obama in his first term, but that doesn't change the fact that we are vehemently opposed to most- if not all - of the GOP's positions on that long list of issues. Obama shares the political philosophy of democrats, and if we reelect him, he may not be successful in moving all or most or even hardly any of those issues down a path that democrats would approve, but electing Romney will CERTAINLY stop any movement on those issues in the direction that democrats want to see them advance, and, instead, move those issues down the path that the GOP wants them to advance.

It is nothing more or less than the standard clash of political philosophies that ought not to come as a surprise to anyone. If one has a vision for the future of our country, one will vote for the party that will attempt to move the country along a path that more closely resembles that vision.

WE just do the simple arithmatic that right wing supporter cannot do.

exactly. wasn't Clinton awesome the other night? Biden and Obama too!

Willing useful idiots tend to lap up their own special self-serving propaganda.

So, yeah. They were just great.

:lmao:
 
You, who are truly in love with America and who is not morally bankrupt, still have no clue at all, do you? You want to return to a government that allowed slavery, forbid female voting, let men keep their wives' or daughters' wages, that permitted child labor?

I have been ever clear on what I think. Elect Romney. Clear out the neo-con pricks who led us into Iraq, who sold our troops and the Afghanis and the American people, who allow businesses to rape and pillage the economy and the workers. Elect a businessman, kick the far right out of the party, force the Dem minority to work with us -- correct the errors of the last twelve years.



Somebody messed up the quotes so let's get them right.

Newby wants to pretend that community and individualism did not go hand in hand. Families and friends did the settlement thing in parnter with kinship and friendship frameworks.

They brought government with them to Jamestown, Plymouth, Salem, and so on.

Government followed them into the frontier. After the Republic of Texas entered the Union, the federal government was very involved with trail making, security, mapping, surveying, defeating Mexicans and Indians, financing the building of railroads, embracing and help with the building of telegraph and telephone networks, hydro enginering and water deveopment and irrigantion networks, and so forth and so on.

Newby is displaying the ignorance of someone at the 6th grade level about how this country developed.

Me: Ms. Newby, you hit it right on the nail. You simply cannot comprehend different ways of doing things. Obama has been less a dictator than Bush, and I am hoping that Romney will be less of one than Obama. And I hope that you realize your are an individual within and, eventually, dependent on the community. We are a collection of individuals and community, hopefully working for the better.


Newby: Yeah, all those pioneers who forged west and lived on their own without anyone for miles, no laws, no civilization, no nothing.. really needed 'big brother' to help them along. Those people built this country. Are you seriously implying that no one could survive without society to help them along? You know, prior to several hundred years ago, people did exist without 'society' helping them. There was no welfare, grocery store, doctor, etc.. People grew their own food, hunted for it, made their own clothes, all without government help!! Brush up on history.

By the way, you really don't know anything about me, Jakey, so your presumptions about what I think are just a bit off the mark.

Individualism and an overbearing, morally bankrupted, intrusive, and corrupt government do not go together. I'd be damn happy to go back to the government that our founders started, I'm all for it. Would you be? I'm guessing not.

But, you notice how I ask you questions and give you a chance to give your view, questions which you never, ever answer. Only morally bankrupt people have to go around assigning others views to them while never ever taking a stance on one damn thing they open their mouths to espouse about. Get a life, Jakey.
 
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