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You are the brown shirt fascists, Stephanie, the few trying to control the many. No, once out, out for good.
The GOP does not need your nonsense.
You are the brown shirt fascists, Stephanie, the few trying to control the many. No, once out, out for good.
The GOP does not need your nonsense.
lol, then you should stay in the Democrat party..leave the Republican alone
No, you fascists can go and create your own brown shirt party. You don't deserve to be Republicans.
You are the brown shirt fascists, Stephanie, the few trying to control the many. No, once out, out for good.
The GOP does not need your nonsense.
lol, then you should stay in the Democrat party..leave the Republican alone
WHY I AM VOTING FOR OBAMA AGAIN: I think the reason that most Obama supporters continue to support him has to do with their basic political philosophies. The democratic party and the republican party have vastly different views on a host of major issues: foreign affairs, women's rights, environmental protection, global warming, energy policy, family planning, gay rights, gun control, social justice, tax policy, and on and on. It is not necessarily that any of us are THRILLED with the performance of Obama in his first term, but that doesn't change the fact that we are vehemently opposed to most- if not all - of the GOP's positions on that long list of issues. Obama shares the political philosophy of democrats, and if we reelect him, he may not be successful in moving all or most or even hardly any of those issues down a path that democrats would approve, but electing Romney will CERTAINLY stop any movement on those issues in the direction that democrats want to see them advance, and, instead, move those issues down the path that the GOP wants them to advance.
It is nothing more or less than the standard clash of political philosophies that ought not to come as a surprise to anyone. If one has a vision for the future of our country, one will vote for the party that will attempt to move the country along a path that more closely resembles that vision.
I am a Republican, we are going to win this fall, and you fascists in the Tea Party are getting booted in the ass out of the GOP. You think Romney will spend a second's time on you once he is elected. Why do you think the mainstream, in part, selected him. Both Obama and you get thrown out.
Liberals abhor the concept of personal responsibility.look. after a glass of Herradura Anejo, and a nice dinner cooked on the grill with my wife, I am feeling fairly mellow. And even though I know you did enter into a bet with me that I won, I realize that...it's the freakin' internet, and it's a message board and maybe we should just shake hands and put this behind us. You know I made O-5... I know I made O-5. You disagree with my politics, and I disagree with yours. I got a lot of stuff on my plate trying to learn a new language and build a home at the same time. I don't have a lot of time to flail around with this. Let's put this behind us. I will refrain from insulting you going forward if you refrain from insulting me. Deal?
Well expatriate... I must admit your video was a bit over the top.But in all fairness I accept that you were what you claimed to be, even though your political affiliation has me completely baffled... I know it has been quite some time since you left the Navy... My question is, did you have the same ideologies you have now when you left the Military, or was your Liberal lunacy something that just sort of grew upon you over time? Not trying to be an ass, but most of the O-5/O-6 crowd I have had the honor to know over the years seemed much more in tune with individual achievement, and personal responsibility (see my previous post -many posts back) than you seem to demonstrate here on USMB. Whatever the rationale for your Liberal mindset I have to say you are one seriously puzzling SOB.
I don't know where I have ever expressed anything that would suggest that I do not highly value personal responsibility and individual achievement because I certainly do. I just happen to believe that there are many people out there who are not blessed with the intellect or ability to do much in our society. I served with a good number of honest, hardworking sailors for whom tasks that you and I can do with one half of our brain tied behind our backs were insurmountable. They were hard workers. They just didn't have the mental horsepower to do hard things. They could chip paint or maintain a windlass if you showed them how, but correctly updating the month maintenance schedule and doing any sort of paperwork was absolutely beyond them. While my wife went to school, she was a waitress, and worked with lots and lots of waitresses and busboys and career dishwashers and fry cooks that were much the same way. They worked hard... harder work and longer work than most of us have ever had to do for minimum wage, or in the case of the waitresses, for half of minimum wage. The list goes on and on. I happen to believe that our nation needs to be able - as a nation - to take care of the people who work for us but who do not have the abilities to advance very high up the ladder of our socio-economic system. I don't believe that any mother should die or bankrupt her family simply because she gets ill. I realize that many on the right do not share those beliefs, and that is what our political dialog is all about.
In answer to your question, I grew up in a family of liberal democrats. My grandfather was a democrat even as he was on the board of directors of a fortune 500 company. My father was a successful lawyer, lifelong democrat, and, for a time, an Illinois state legislator and a friend and compatriot of Adlai Stevenson. I came by my liberal outlook from the values that my parents instilled in me. They also set very high standards for all four of their children, and we all have gone to college, and graduate school. Three of the four of us are just as liberal as our parents, but, much like Michael J. Fox in Family Ties, my kid brother is the only conservative republican in the family. We still love him dearly, however, and, as a father, he is my role model on how to be a great dad.
While in the service, I knew many democrats among the officer corps. We were certainly outnumbered by republicans, but not overwhelmingly so. And, in life, I am a much more moderate democrat on lots of issues than this forum affords me the opportunity to show.
I am a Republican, we are going to win this fall, and you fascists in the Tea Party are getting booted in the ass out of the GOP. You think Romney will spend a second's time on you once he is elected. Why do you think the mainstream, in part, selected him. Both Obama and you get thrown out.
you have your crystal ball out again..funny stuff
Let's put this behind us. I will refrain from insulting you going forward if you refrain from insulting me. Deal?
I really think this example of farm labor is a bunch of crap.I happen to believe that our nation needs to be able - as a nation - to take care of the people who work for us but who do not have the abilities to advance very high up the ladder of our socio-economic system.
That's an excellent point. The best thing we can do for them is to stop importing millions of low skilled workers every year to compete with them and drive down their wages.
I don't know if President Romney will seal the borders, but I know President Obama wants to increase the number of low skilled immigrants and give them citizenship. I don't know how voting for that will improve their situation, maybe you could explain it?
I happen to think it is silly to suggest that there are people in America standing in line at the farms in California wanting jobs picking vegetables but they are turned away by the owners because they would rather hire illegal immigrants instead. And I wonder who the right would blame for the exploding food costs if all the illegal immigrant pickers went away and the farmers were forced to pay US minimum wage to US citizens to to harvest those crops? My guess is: Obama.
I happen to think it is silly to suggest that there are people in America standing in line at the farms in California wanting jobs picking vegetablesYeah, that is silly. Who suggested that?
Why... I think that was YOU:
That's an excellent point. The best thing we can do for them is to stop importing millions of low skilled workers every year to compete with them and drive down their wages.
How is it that American workers are supposed to be "competing" with illegal immigrants if they don't even show up to actually do the competing part?
I really think this example of farm labor is a bunch of crap.I happen to believe that our nation needs to be able - as a nation - to take care of the people who work for us but who do not have the abilities to advance very high up the ladder of our socio-economic system.
That's an excellent point. The best thing we can do for them is to stop importing millions of low skilled workers every year to compete with them and drive down their wages.
I don't know if President Romney will seal the borders, but I know President Obama wants to increase the number of low skilled immigrants and give them citizenship. I don't know how voting for that will improve their situation, maybe you could explain it?
I happen to think it is silly to suggest that there are people in America standing in line at the farms in California wanting jobs picking vegetables but they are turned away by the owners because they would rather hire illegal immigrants instead. And I wonder who the right would blame for the exploding food costs if all the illegal immigrant pickers went away and the farmers were forced to pay US minimum wage to US citizens to to harvest those crops? My guess is: Obama.
Illegals are taking jobs in construction, in hospitality, landscaping..Heck, there are landscape companies in this area that are now hiring only bi-lingual crew foremen.
Although most have backed off on that due to anti discrimination laws.
But the bottom line is Latinos are not just picking crops.
I really think this example of farm labor is a bunch of crap.I happen to think it is silly to suggest that there are people in America standing in line at the farms in California wanting jobs picking vegetables but they are turned away by the owners because they would rather hire illegal immigrants instead. And I wonder who the right would blame for the exploding food costs if all the illegal immigrant pickers went away and the farmers were forced to pay US minimum wage to US citizens to to harvest those crops? My guess is: Obama.
Illegals are taking jobs in construction, in hospitality, landscaping..Heck, there are landscape companies in this area that are now hiring only bi-lingual crew foremen.
Although most have backed off on that due to anti discrimination laws.
But the bottom line is Latinos are not just picking crops.
and are you saying that there are American workers lining up every day next to latinos asking for those jobs in construction, hospitality, and landscaping, but business owners are putting their businesses at risk of legal action by choosing to hire illegal latinos rather than American citizens who are there asking for that same work?
I really think this example of farm labor is a bunch of crap.
Illegals are taking jobs in construction, in hospitality, landscaping..Heck, there are landscape companies in this area that are now hiring only bi-lingual crew foremen.
Although most have backed off on that due to anti discrimination laws.
But the bottom line is Latinos are not just picking crops.
and are you saying that there are American workers lining up every day next to latinos asking for those jobs in construction, hospitality, and landscaping, but business owners are putting their businesses at risk of legal action by choosing to hire illegal latinos rather than American citizens who are there asking for that same work?
Are you saying that no American worker is displaced by an illegal? Seriously?
I really think this example of farm labor is a bunch of crap.
Illegals are taking jobs in construction, in hospitality, landscaping..Heck, there are landscape companies in this area that are now hiring only bi-lingual crew foremen.
Although most have backed off on that due to anti discrimination laws.
But the bottom line is Latinos are not just picking crops.
and are you saying that there are American workers lining up every day next to latinos asking for those jobs in construction, hospitality, and landscaping, but business owners are putting their businesses at risk of legal action by choosing to hire illegal latinos rather than American citizens who are there asking for that same work?
Are you saying that no American worker is displaced by an illegal? Seriously?
I really think this example of farm labor is a bunch of crap.I happen to think it is silly to suggest that there are people in America standing in line at the farms in California wanting jobs picking vegetables but they are turned away by the owners because they would rather hire illegal immigrants instead. And I wonder who the right would blame for the exploding food costs if all the illegal immigrant pickers went away and the farmers were forced to pay US minimum wage to US citizens to to harvest those crops? My guess is: Obama.
Illegals are taking jobs in construction, in hospitality, landscaping..Heck, there are landscape companies in this area that are now hiring only bi-lingual crew foremen.
Although most have backed off on that due to anti discrimination laws.
But the bottom line is Latinos are not just picking crops.
and are you saying that there are American workers lining up every day next to latinos asking for those jobs in construction, hospitality, and landscaping, but business owners are putting their businesses at risk of legal action by choosing to hire illegal latinos rather than American citizens who are there asking for that same work?
Are you a 4th grade girl answering a question with asking a question? Are you saying, seriously, that Americans will take these jobs? Really? You really have taken the kool aid.
and are you saying that there are American workers lining up every day next to latinos asking for those jobs in construction, hospitality, and landscaping, but business owners are putting their businesses at risk of legal action by choosing to hire illegal latinos rather than American citizens who are there asking for that same work?
Are you saying that no American worker is displaced by an illegal? Seriously?
