Why is America so screwed up?

[ScienceRocks]

If those jobs are going to pay lower wages we don't need them to come back. Stay overseas. Cheap greedy pricks.

Yep, and educate our own youth to innovate and do things that do pay well right here in America.

Republicans have it all wrong.

 

[9aces]

Bull. I know carpenters that start out at $25 per hour as long as they are union and have post grad training.

There is plenty of choice. My industry needs 46,000 new workers and they can't find them. This is why they are turning to foreigners to do the work; Americans are sitting home on their Obama phone getting fat on SNAP's cards. The others refuse to quit smoking pot so they can pass a drug test at a good company.

With the exception of those who are mentally or physically challenged, the only reason one is not working is because they don't want to work.

You're obsessed with your pothead tenants lol. Sure, all the UE have to do is magically get a semi license. Of course, Pubs refuse helping with ANY training for MILLIONS of good jobs going begging.

OP- 30 years of Reaganism have wrecked the nonrich and the country, but thanks for the stupidest wars ever and the world depression, dupes.

Reagan has been dead for 11 years and left the office of President over 27 years ago. Since that time, we've had 16 years of Democrat leadership in the White House. Why don't you blame one of them? Oh, that's right, because it's never a Democrats fault.

Maybe because they've done nothing but try and fix your GOP's pander to the rich idiocy?

When you figure out both parties pander shamelessly to the rich, you'll be up at least 20 IQ points. That'd get you over 30.

Democrats invest and work with the business sector to get things done
Republicans suck their dick and hand them the controls.

Big difference.

Democrats work? Since when? The majority of their voters are government sponges.

 

[ScienceRocks]

You're obsessed with your pothead tenants lol. Sure, all the UE have to do is magically get a semi license. Of course, Pubs refuse helping with ANY training for MILLIONS of good jobs going begging.

OP- 30 years of Reaganism have wrecked the nonrich and the country, but thanks for the stupidest wars ever and the world depression, dupes.

Reagan has been dead for 11 years and left the office of President over 27 years ago. Since that time, we've had 16 years of Democrat leadership in the White House. Why don't you blame one of them? Oh, that's right, because it's never a Democrats fault.

Pubs have defended to the death the Reaganist tax rates and loopholes and policies that have wrecked the country duh. All they have is tidal waves of bs propaganda and the ignorance of their ignorant racist chumps...

Defending lower tax rates...gee maybe because it's people's money, and not the government's?

The biggest racists walking the face of the planet right now are lifelong Democrats. Al Sharpton is the poster child of racism being profitable.

Defending low tax rates on the rich and giant corps, because that's all Dems have been trying to raise duh...Pointing out racism is not racism duh dupe. Believing certain races are inferior and discriminating against them is.

Yes, and Democrats have certainly believed certain races are inferior and done everything in their power to push them back into slavery. And it's working.

If Dems have been trying to raise taxes, their willingness to do so certainly evaporates when they have the ability to do so.

And yet your party wants a bunch of serfs that get paid next to shit. Read a history book about the 19th century sometimes. Damn.

How is raising taxes on the top 1% bad? We had the biggest middle class in history when the rich paid at least double what they do today. History disproves your trash.

 

[9aces]

Bull. I know carpenters that start out at $25 per hour as long as they are union and have post grad training.

There is plenty of choice. My industry needs 46,000 new workers and they can't find them. This is why they are turning to foreigners to do the work; Americans are sitting home on their Obama phone getting fat on SNAP's cards. The others refuse to quit smoking pot so they can pass a drug test at a good company.

With the exception of those who are mentally or physically challenged, the only reason one is not working is because they don't want to work.

You're obsessed with your pothead tenants lol. Sure, all the UE have to do is magically get a semi license. Of course, Pubs refuse helping with ANY training for MILLIONS of good jobs going begging.

OP- 30 years of Reaganism have wrecked the nonrich and the country, but thanks for the stupidest wars ever and the world depression, dupes.

Reagan has been dead for 11 years and left the office of President over 27 years ago. Since that time, we've had 16 years of Democrat leadership in the White House. Why don't you blame one of them? Oh, that's right, because it's never a Democrats fault.

Maybe because they've done nothing but try and fix your GOP's pander to the rich idiocy?

When you figure out both parties pander shamelessly to the rich, you'll be up at least 20 IQ points. That'd get you over 30.

"But but but Dems are just as bad"...try the real world sometime, dupe.

No, the Dems are worse. The Republican establishment is trying very hard to reach the level of corruption and incompetence the Democrats have displayed I'll have to say.

 

[francoHFW]

You're obsessed with your pothead tenants lol. Sure, all the UE have to do is magically get a semi license. Of course, Pubs refuse helping with ANY training for MILLIONS of good jobs going begging.

OP- 30 years of Reaganism have wrecked the nonrich and the country, but thanks for the stupidest wars ever and the world depression, dupes.

Reagan has been dead for 11 years and left the office of President over 27 years ago. Since that time, we've had 16 years of Democrat leadership in the White House. Why don't you blame one of them? Oh, that's right, because it's never a Democrats fault.

Pubs have defended to the death the Reaganist tax rates and loopholes and policies that have wrecked the country duh. All they have is tidal waves of bs propaganda and the ignorance of their ignorant racist chumps...

Defending lower tax rates...gee maybe because it's people's money, and not the government's?

The biggest racists walking the face of the planet right now are lifelong Democrats. Al Sharpton is the poster child of racism being profitable.

Defending low tax rates on the rich and giant corps, because that's all Dems have been trying to raise duh...Pointing out racism is not racism duh dupe. Believing certain races are inferior and discriminating against them is.

Yes, and Democrats have certainly believed certain races are inferior and done everything in their power to push them back into slavery. And it's working.

If Dems have been trying to raise taxes, their willingness to do so certainly evaporates when they have the ability to do so.

BS. You can't raise taxes in the middle of ANOTHER Pub World Depression. Clinton and Obama both raised taxes on the rich, but stopped from doing anywhere near enough...

 

[whitehall]

Y'all say it's screwed up and I say the United States is the greatest Country on the face of the earth. We support more freaking illegal aliens than the total population of all the Scandinavian countries put together. The so-called poverty class in the United States lives better than the alleged middle class in most of the rest of the freaking world. Latinos risk death in the freaking desert to get to the greatest Country in the world. Go ahead and shit on your Country Jake. The Bill of Rights in the greatest Country in the world even let's you use the Army uniform on your logo but you can bet your ass that you ain't goin nowhere better.

 

[initforme]

The amount left to "trickle down" decreases every year. The GOP is successfully blaming workers for it and there are enough idiots to buy that rubbish. Its a joke. Heck I owned my own business and hired only union carpenters. Their wages and union never hurt anything. Greed is the problem.

 

[9aces]

Reagan has been dead for 11 years and left the office of President over 27 years ago. Since that time, we've had 16 years of Democrat leadership in the White House. Why don't you blame one of them? Oh, that's right, because it's never a Democrats fault.

Pubs have defended to the death the Reaganist tax rates and loopholes and policies that have wrecked the country duh. All they have is tidal waves of bs propaganda and the ignorance of their ignorant racist chumps...

Defending lower tax rates...gee maybe because it's people's money, and not the government's?

The biggest racists walking the face of the planet right now are lifelong Democrats. Al Sharpton is the poster child of racism being profitable.

Defending low tax rates on the rich and giant corps, because that's all Dems have been trying to raise duh...Pointing out racism is not racism duh dupe. Believing certain races are inferior and discriminating against them is.

Yes, and Democrats have certainly believed certain races are inferior and done everything in their power to push them back into slavery. And it's working.

If Dems have been trying to raise taxes, their willingness to do so certainly evaporates when they have the ability to do so.

And yet your party wants a bunch of serfs that get paid next to shit. Read a history book about the 19th century sometimes. Damn.

How is raising taxes on the top 1% bad? We had the biggest middle class in history when the rich paid at least double what they do today. History disproves your trash.

I have read it. You seem to have missed the best parts.

We had the biggest middle class when we made things. We don't make so much anymore, and who is to blame for this? The people in government, BOTH parties. We've regulated ourselves virtually out of small manufacturing. The middle class had buying power when most of our wealth didn't go to let stupid women pop out useless drains to society so they can get a check to help their baby daddy have a good time.

Have you bothered lately to see how much money this country spends on Entitlement Programs?

Your greatest failing is you can't seem to figure out the Democrats are just better liars and thieves. You think the 1% will actually pay any more? Of course not, the tax code will get fiddled some more, and the people who do work get screwed some more.

Nobody, and I mean nobody can sell out like a Democratic congressman. Gotta give some of the Republicans credit though, they're trying awful hard.

 

[initforme]

Democrats work? Do trailer court conservatives work?

 

[9aces]

If those jobs are going to pay lower wages we don't need them to come back. Stay overseas. Cheap greedy pricks.

Yep, and educate our own youth to innovate and do things that do pay well right here in America.

Republicans have it all wrong.

We spend more on education that ever, and the majority of students can't think their way out of a wet paper bag. There was a statement made when standards were lowered, it was called the Dumbing down of America. And man were they ever right.

Critical thinking is virtually non-existent in High Schools today.

Want education to get better? Go back to flunking kids out who don't try or are just plain stupid, and rewarding excellence. Instead of giving them a participation trophy for showing up.

 

[9aces]

Democrats work? Do trailer court conservatives work?

Nope, but most of them vote Democrat anyway. Gotta keep that guvment check comin.

 

[initforme]

If you think republicans care about workers your brain has been removed. Nobody cares about workers. They say leave it to the market or get trained. Then they say its up to the worker. Which makes sense. But they want those workers to give their all for the company. Truth is the worker is there for the worker.

 

[initforme]

I know a lot of white, business owning people who work hard and vote democrat. Imagine that.

 

[9aces]

The amount left to "trickle down" decreases every year. The GOP is successfully blaming workers for it and there are enough idiots to buy that rubbish. Its a joke. Heck I owned my own business and hired only union carpenters. Their wages and union never hurt anything. Greed is the problem.

That's because there's fewer producers every year. You might want to pay some attention to that stat. It's a wee bit important.

 

[initforme]

If you are going to produce people need to be able to buy your production.

 

[9aces]

If you think republicans care about workers your brain has been removed. Nobody cares about workers. They say leave it to the market or get trained. Then they say its up to the worker. Which makes sense. But they want those workers to give their all for the company. Truth is the worker is there for the worker.

Smartest thing you've said yet. Worker's there for the worker. Company owner is there for....the company owner. You should add that part.

Does the company exist without the Company owner? No it doesn't.

Does the company exist without any particular worker? Almost certainly it does, workers are replaceable for the most part.

 

[initforme]

Yup. But workers should not be loyal to the company. In today's world a worker should walk right off the job the second they accept a better one. About half the companies out there are bad and to be avoided.

 

[Desperado]

Open Borders

 

[9aces]

If you are going to produce people need to be able to buy your production.

And there's why you fail. You don't produce to produce, you produce because people will buy it at a price that yields a profit.

No profit, no production. The "they won't be able to buy anything" argument is pure nonsense. If nobody can afford anything, a whole bunch starve off, which would be a good thing at that point, and the cycle begins anew.

 

[9aces]

Yup. But workers should not be loyal to the company. In today's world a worker should walk right off the job the second they accept a better one. About half the companies out there are bad and to be avoided.

The moment a person's self interest is compromised, they're doomed. Note btw self-interest and selfish are two very different things, although most are too stupid to know it.

If it's in a person's self-interest to work for a company, they should. If it's not, they shouldn't. It's a simple equation.