Why is Building the Wall Wrong?

[bripat9643]

We all know that you're spewing Dim talking points, not facts

What "we all know" is that as usual you are trolling...or can you actually dispute anything I've said with anything other than "nuuuuhhhhuhhhh"

Yes, I can easily dispute it, but it isn't worth the effort. Everyone in this forum already knows that you're just a lying troll.

 

[OKTexas]

Why is building the wall wrong?

Mostly because it's an expensive boondoggle that would not achieve its supposed intended results and would steal land from thousands of American ranchers and farmers

It's a very expensive SYMBOL and little else

Funny, when they built the wall in the San Diego sector it reduced crossings form 100000 to 5000, a 95% reduction. That sir, proves you're full of it.

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[Lesh]

Yes, I can easily dispute it, but it isn't worth the effort.

Surrender accepted

 

[Lesh]

Funny, when they built the wall in the San Diego sector it reduced crossings form 100000 to 5000, a 95% reduction. That sir, proves you're full of it.

The hell it does.

Trump isn't proposing selective areas where walls would be appropriate...he wants money to build a wall along the entire fucking border.
THAT is just fucking stupid

 

[OKTexas]

Funny, when they built the wall in the San Diego sector it reduced crossings form 100000 to 5000, a 95% reduction. That sir, proves you're full of it.

The hell it does.

Trump isn't proposing selective areas where walls would be appropriate...he wants money to build a wall along the entire fucking border.
THAT is just fucking stupid

That sir, very simply proves you're a liar and a propagandist. He is relying on the border patrol and DHS to determine what is needed and where.

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[Lesh]

Funny, when they built the wall in the San Diego sector it reduced crossings form 100000 to 5000, a 95% reduction. That sir, proves you're full of it.

The hell it does.

Trump isn't proposing selective areas where walls would be appropriate...he wants money to build a wall along the entire fucking border.
THAT is just fucking stupid

That sir, very simply proves you're a liar and a propagandist. He is relying on the border patrol and DHS to determine what is needed and where.

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I'm a liar?

Trump ISN'T talking about a wall along the entire border?

That's new

 

[Lesh]

So it appears we have scaled things back significantly.

No concrete wall.

No actual wall at all

Just more of what we currently have.

Well it's a good thing that the Senate has passed a clean CR that has 1.6 billion in it to pay for that. Too bad the GOP House has refused to pass that.

I guess we'll have to wait for the Dems to take control of the House in a couple days to do it

 

[danielpalos]

But it will also be necessary to change our laws, to criminalize visa overstays and provide expedited deportation procedures of all illegals.

Exactly. THIS is what bothers me about the "wall" movement. Their goals will require a police state to achieve, not just a wall.

So you think we should do away with law enforcement? Do you think it would be unreasonable to require people coming in on visas to leave as agreed?

I think the role of government should be protecting individual rights, not violating them in the name of state security.

Deporting illegal aliens doesn't violate anyone's individual rights.

We don't have an immigration clause it is a naturalization clause. Illegal is only a concept for national socialists not national capitalists.

 

[danielpalos]

Why is building the wall wrong?

Mostly because it's an expensive boondoggle that would not achieve its supposed intended results and would steal land from thousands of American ranchers and farmers

It's a very expensive SYMBOL and little else

Funny, when they built the wall in the San Diego sector it reduced crossings form 100000 to 5000, a 95% reduction. That sir, proves you're full of it.

.

Tax raise economics for right wing immigration policies!

 

[OKTexas]

Funny, when they built the wall in the San Diego sector it reduced crossings form 100000 to 5000, a 95% reduction. That sir, proves you're full of it.

The hell it does.

Trump isn't proposing selective areas where walls would be appropriate...he wants money to build a wall along the entire fucking border.
THAT is just fucking stupid

That sir, very simply proves you're a liar and a propagandist. He is relying on the border patrol and DHS to determine what is needed and where.

.

I'm a liar?

Trump ISN'T talking about a wall along the entire border?

That's new

Not really, I guess mslsd didn't tell ya.

.

 

[OKTexas]

So it appears we have scaled things back significantly.

No concrete wall.

No actual wall at all

Just more of what we currently have.

Well it's a good thing that the Senate has passed a clean CR that has 1.6 billion in it to pay for that. Too bad the GOP House has refused to pass that.

I guess we'll have to wait for the Dems to take control of the House in a couple days to do it

Much more of this.

And the commies in congress aren't offering ANY money for it. You really should stop watching mslsd. You're so badly informed it's pathetic.

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[danielpalos]

Funny, when they built the wall in the San Diego sector it reduced crossings form 100000 to 5000, a 95% reduction. That sir, proves you're full of it.

The hell it does.

Trump isn't proposing selective areas where walls would be appropriate...he wants money to build a wall along the entire fucking border.
THAT is just fucking stupid

That sir, very simply proves you're a liar and a propagandist. He is relying on the border patrol and DHS to determine what is needed and where.

.

I'm a liar?

Trump ISN'T talking about a wall along the entire border?

That's new

Not really, I guess mslsd didn't tell ya.

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tax raise economics, right wingers; you either believe in Your policies or you are merely being frivolous at the Expense of the Poor.

 

[danielpalos]

So it appears we have scaled things back significantly.

No concrete wall.

No actual wall at all

Just more of what we currently have.

Well it's a good thing that the Senate has passed a clean CR that has 1.6 billion in it to pay for that. Too bad the GOP House has refused to pass that.

I guess we'll have to wait for the Dems to take control of the House in a couple days to do it

Much more of this.
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And the commies in congress aren't offering ANY money for it. You really should stop watching mslsd. You're so badly informed it's pathetic.

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Capital based metrics not social metrics!

 

[OKTexas]

Why is building the wall wrong?

Mostly because it's an expensive boondoggle that would not achieve its supposed intended results and would steal land from thousands of American ranchers and farmers

It's a very expensive SYMBOL and little else

Funny, when they built the wall in the San Diego sector it reduced crossings form 100000 to 5000, a 95% reduction. That sir, proves you're full of it.

.

Tax raise economics for right wing immigration policies!

.

 

[danielpalos]

Only Persons with the franchise should vote in federal elections. All foreign nationals in the US should have a federal id; we don't have an immigration clause we have a naturalization clause.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

So it appears we have scaled things back significantly.

No concrete wall.

No actual wall at all

Just more of what we currently have.

Well it's a good thing that the Senate has passed a clean CR that has 1.6 billion in it to pay for that. Too bad the GOP House has refused to pass that.

I guess we'll have to wait for the Dems to take control of the House in a couple days to do it

There is nothing they can do about it. Congress passed a budge with the 5.8 billion. It's in the hands of the Senate now. It's up to the Senate Democrats to open the government back up or keep it closed.

 

[Lesh]

It's in the hands of the Senate now

Has the GOP Senate even VOTED on that?

No?

They did vote on a CR with 1.6 billion.For what you are now saying you want to do, that's plenty

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I'm a liar?

Trump ISN'T talking about a wall along the entire border?

That's new

Actually just a few weeks old. Fast Forward to around the 12:30 mark and listen.

 

[Lesh]

Trump is notorious for saying all sorts of shit.

Are you claiming that this is over a security system not unlike that which we have now?

NOT an actual wall and NOT along the entire border?

That IS new

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Trump is notorious for saying all sorts of shit.

Are you claiming that this is over a security system not unlike that which we have now?

NOT an actual wall and NOT along the entire border?

That IS new

It was easy to miss. They were kind of talking over each other a lot and it did get annoying. But 5.8 billion could never get a wall across the entire border. We can't just nail boards together and call it a wall. It has to be effective and do what it's intended to do. It's better to have 100 miles of good wall and technology than it is to have 200 miles of half-assed wall that's not too difficult to get by. I'm sure our engineers and border agents will have it built to their specifications.

However the more money we have, the more quality and wall we have.