why is helping 1.2% of Americans important enough to destroy 98.7%

[healthmyths]

of the rest of us Americans' benefits?

 

[thanatos144]

It isn't about helping it is all about destroying. Fascist just destroy they never help.

 

[NYcarbineer]

of the rest of us Americans' benefits?

When, and how, exactly and specifically, will you personally be destroyed?

 

[thanatos144]

of the rest of us Americans' benefits?

When, and how, exactly and specifically, will you personally be destroyed?

You would just lie about it anyway. Many have showed you time and again what will happen but you are not paid to be truthful are you?

 

[healthmyths]

of the rest of us Americans' benefits?

When, and how, exactly and specifically, will you personally be destroyed?

I am on Medicare.
Next year I will be paying a minimum of $1,156.80 MORE for my Medicare.
Then in addition my co-pay for doctor/hospital will increase from zero right now for doctor to something more... So I personally will be limiting my preventative regime BECAUSE I'll be paying more. All because
Obamacare supporters can't seem to do simple math.. i.e.
Of the 46 million Obama used to get ACA passed that he said were uninsured were:

18 million are under 34! Make over $50k CAN AFFORD but don't want to spend more on employers plans.. so bogus number!
Yet idiot supporters use the term "free loaders" on these RESPONSIBLE people who's credit would be destroyed IF they didn't pay their health
bills!
I'm not saying it CHECK THIS source: CRISIS OF THE UNINSURED: 2009

14 million are already covered all need to do is register with Medicaid! SOURCE: http://coverageforall.org/pdf/BC-BS_...ed-America.pdf

10 million are NOT citizens! SOURCE: US Census Bureau

This adds up 42 million that don't want, don't know they are covered and aren't legal!

Simple math Subtract from 46 million Obama's number 42 million leaves 4 million on 1.2% of Americans!
So I'm going to pay more to cover 4 million?

 

[ClosedCaption]

Great thread! I'm glad you are finally speaking out about the tax cuts for the wealthiest 1% of the nation while we run up huge debt.

I agree

 

[healthmyths]

Great thread! I'm glad you are finally speaking out about the tax cuts for the wealthiest 1% of the nation while we run up huge debt.

I agree

Way way over your head!
4 million people want health insurance ...not 46 million that already have, or don't want, or are not legal citizens!
These 4 million could be paid for by taxing lawyers!
millionaire lawyers that have CAUSED $850 billion a year in totally wasted DEFENSIVE MEDICAL practices because doctors FEAR lawsuits filed by the $270 billion a year legal industry!
10% of that is $27 billion enough to pay for all the truly needy people that need insurance WITHOUT DESTROYING MINE and 98.7% of the rest of Americans!
It is totally wrong and I'm just amazed that idiots obviously like you don't comprehend that bogus 46 million number is causing the USA to be destroyed from within!

 

[JakeStarkey]

of the rest of us Americans' benefits?

When, and how, exactly and specifically, will you personally be destroyed?

I am on Medicare.
Next year I will be paying a minimum of $1,156.80 MORE for my Medicare.
Then in addition my co-pay for doctor/hospital will increase from zero right now for doctor to something more... So I personally will be limiting my preventative regime BECAUSE I'll be paying more. All because
Obamacare supporters can't seem to do simple math.. i.e.
Of the 46 million Obama used to get ACA passed that he said were uninsured were:

18 million are under 34! Make over $50k CAN AFFORD but don't want to spend more on employers plans.. so bogus number!
Yet idiot supporters use the term "free loaders" on these RESPONSIBLE people who's credit would be destroyed IF they didn't pay their health
bills!
I'm not saying it CHECK THIS source: CRISIS OF THE UNINSURED: 2009

14 million are already covered all need to do is register with Medicaid! SOURCE: http://coverageforall.org/pdf/BC-BS_...ed-America.pdf

10 million are NOT citizens! SOURCE: US Census Bureau

This adds up 42 million that don't want, don't know they are covered and aren't legal!

Simple math Subtract from 46 million Obama's number 42 million leaves 4 million on 1.2% of Americans!
So I'm going to pay more to cover 4 million?

(1) very few believe you because

(2) you don't produce objective, peer reviewed evidence

 

[MeBelle]

Great thread! I'm glad you are finally speaking out about the tax cuts for the wealthiest 1% of the nation while we run up huge debt.

I agree

Families that earn > $94k a year are now the 1%?

1% don't need to purchase Health Insurance.

ACA doesn't address the illegal immigrants in this country who use the ER as their PCP.

 

[healthmyths]

When, and how, exactly and specifically, will you personally be destroyed?

I am on Medicare.
Next year I will be paying a minimum of $1,156.80 MORE for my Medicare.
Then in addition my co-pay for doctor/hospital will increase from zero right now for doctor to something more... So I personally will be limiting my preventative regime BECAUSE I'll be paying more. All because
Obamacare supporters can't seem to do simple math.. i.e.
Of the 46 million Obama used to get ACA passed that he said were uninsured were:

18 million are under 34! Make over $50k CAN AFFORD but don't want to spend more on employers plans.. so bogus number!
Yet idiot supporters use the term "free loaders" on these RESPONSIBLE people who's credit would be destroyed IF they didn't pay their health
bills!
I'm not saying it CHECK THIS source: CRISIS OF THE UNINSURED: 2009

14 million are already covered all need to do is register with Medicaid! SOURCE: http://coverageforall.org/pdf/BC-BS_...ed-America.pdf

10 million are NOT citizens! SOURCE: US Census Bureau

This adds up 42 million that don't want, don't know they are covered and aren't legal!

Simple math Subtract from 46 million Obama's number 42 million leaves 4 million on 1.2% of Americans!
So I'm going to pay more to cover 4 million?

(1) very few believe you because

(2) you don't produce objective, peer reviewed evidence

A) The Census is not believable??? They counted 10 million people who said they were uninsured BUT THEY WERE ALSO not citizens!
US Census Bureau

B) The Actuarial Research Corporation (ARC), estimates that almost 14 million of the uninsured estimated by the CPS in 2004 were reachable through public programs – 9 million through Medicaid and 5 million through SCHIP and other programs.
http://coverageforall.org/pdf/BC-BS_Uninsured-America.pdf
DO YOU comprehend what is being described is people were asked by The Census are you uninsured? They said yes...
BUT they are also according to the above study at the poverty level to be ELIGIBLE for Medicaid!!!

C) Yet it’s young people like Smeal that Barack Obama's administration has said are most needed to make health care reform a success. The new insurance exchanges, which open Tuesday, hope to attract at least 2.7 million of the 17 million uninsured 18-to-34-year-old Americans. That age group is dubbed the young invincibles and is the demographic least likely to be insured. Enrolling young adults, who often pay for but rarely use health insurance, is needed to keep premiums low overall.
'I don't need health care': Millennials threaten success of reform | Al Jazeera America

DO you still believe there are 46 million people that WANT, that are Citizens and KNOW they are covered??
AGAIN!
10 million not citizens.. SEE A
14 million don't know they are eligible SEE B
18 million DON"T WANT See C.
42 million subtracted from 46 million leaves 4 million NOT 46 million!!!

BIG BIG LIE!

 

[Stephanie]

It's the Obama way...

we all live in ObamaNation now

Untied States of America is gone and so are our freedoms, but what hell...

 

[Claudette]

The only winner in the ACA are the people we taxpayers will be forced to subsidize.

Those of us who have HC will be paying higher premiums.

All those young folks will probably pay the fine leaving the taxpayers with the tab.

Anyone who things the ACA is gonna be cheaper or better is living in la la land.

 

[hazlnut]

of the rest of us Americans' benefits?

Nice Strawman.

 

[Geaux4it]

Great thread! I'm glad you are finally speaking out about the tax cuts for the wealthiest 1% of the nation while we run up huge debt.

I agree

You need to take that up with Odummer, he with his more 'flexibility' and all is taking care of his 1% cronies while the brainwashed are still attacking them

Classic

-Geaux

 

[ClosedCaption]

Great thread! I'm glad you are finally speaking out about the tax cuts for the wealthiest 1% of the nation while we run up huge debt.

I agree

Families that earn > $94k a year are now the 1%?

1% don't need to purchase Health Insurance.

ACA doesn't address the illegal immigrants in this country who use the ER as their PCP.

If you can find one dollar sign in my post you will get a cookie.

Since you cant, this Is your way of narrowing the debate by adding numbers in and refusing to discuss the overall point.

Nice deflection but you need to try that on one of the rookie board members

 

[ClosedCaption]

Great thread! I'm glad you are finally speaking out about the tax cuts for the wealthiest 1% of the nation while we run up huge debt.

I agree

You need to take that up with Odummer, he with his more 'flexibility' and all is taking care of his 1% cronies while the brainwashed are still attacking them

Classic

-Geaux

Thanks Geaux, Now would you tell me how Obama hates the rich and is a huge socialist so I can contrast and laugh at your inconsistent bullshit.

 

[healthmyths]

Great thread! I'm glad you are finally speaking out about the tax cuts for the wealthiest 1% of the nation while we run up huge debt.

I agree

Families that earn > $94k a year are now the 1%?

1% don't need to purchase Health Insurance.

ACA doesn't address the illegal immigrants in this country who use the ER as their PCP.

AND DO YOU KNOW WHY hospitals sometimes charge Medicare 6,000% markup on CAT scans??
CALLED EMTALA!! LOOK this up!
Enacted by the federal government in 1986, requires that hospital emergency departments treat emergency conditions of all patients regardless of their ability to pay and is considered a critical element in the "safety net" for the uninsured, but established no direct payment mechanism for such care. Indirect payments and reimbursements through federal and state government programs have never fully compensated public and private hospitals for the full cost of care mandated by EMTALA.
According to the Institute of Medicine, between 1993 and 2003, emergency room visits in the U.S. grew by 26%, while in the same period, the number of emergency departments declined by 425.
Health care in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


A 1986 good feeling program that CAUSES As this hospital's CEO attests:
"How do hospitals deal with the cost of the uninsured? Like any business, we pass it on to the paying customers.”
From PAGE 1 of this document:
http://www.ncmedicaljournal.com/wp-content/uploads/NCMJ/mar-apr-05/Yarbrough.pdf

Tell me the name of the largest hospital in your area and I'll show you how much hospitals OvERCHARGE as the above CEO stated!

SOLUTION...
Tax lawyers 10% use that to pay a premium for the truly 4 million legal uninsured americans.
When they go to hospitals they are registered and then the hospital sends the bills to the "uninsured Health Insurance Co."!!!
NO longer needing then to "pad and pass" as hospitals have done to cover the $47 billion a year that they report as due to "uninsured"!!!

 

[NYcarbineer]

of the rest of us Americans' benefits?

When, and how, exactly and specifically, will you personally be destroyed?

I am on Medicare.
Next year I will be paying a minimum of $1,156.80 MORE for my Medicare.
Then in addition my co-pay for doctor/hospital will increase from zero right now for doctor to something more... So I personally will be limiting my preventative regime BECAUSE I'll be paying more.

Changes to Medicare with ACA:

"You Can Get More Free Care A lot of preventive care is now free. Preventive care helps you stay well and avoid diseases.

If you have a Medicare Advantage plan, the free health care available to you may vary from plan to plan.

If you have Original Medicare:

You can have a free wellness exam every year. You and your doctor will map out a plan to keep you healthy.

You can get most screenings free. Screenings are medical tests to find illnesses early, when they're easier to treat. For instance, a mammogram is a screening for breast cancer. A colonoscopy checks for colon cancer. You can also be checked for diabetes, high blood pressure, and high cholesterol."

I assume the costs you're talking about are those related to your private sector Medicare Advantage plan losing some of the government subsidy it was getting to prop it up.

Changes to Medicare With the Affordable Care Act

 

[NYcarbineer]

Read this thread carefully and you will see that the author of this thread,

Mr. Anti-government healthcare,

admits that he himself is on Medicare, and then the kicker...

...he complains that the government is not compensating him enough through Medicare!!!!!!!

Priceless!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[ClosedCaption]

Read this thread carefully and you will see that the author of this thread,

Mr. Anti-government healthcare,

admits that he himself is on Medicare, and then the kicker...

...he complains that the government is not compensating him enough through Medicare!!!!!!!

Priceless!!!!!!!!!!!

Welp, I always love a chance to drop this in a thread: