Why is Socialism so popular all of a sudden

[Ame®icano]

We? Or you.

You stated that Government is socialism.

It's not.

Yes, Government is Socialism. How can it be otherwise?

Nope. Post the definition. From Marx, or Lenin, or even Socialist party USA...

This is from their website:

"The Socialist Party strives to establish a radical democracy that places people's lives under their own control -- a non-racist, classless, feminist, socialist society in which people cooperate at work, at home, and in the community.

Socialism is not mere government ownership, a welfare state, or a repressive bureaucracy. Socialism is a new social and economic order in which workers and consumers control production and community residents control their neighborhoods, homes, and schools. The production of society is used for the benefit of all humanity, not for the private profit of a few. Socialism produces a constantly renewed future by not plundering the resources of the earth.”

Socialism is not form of government. Socialism is about government control over means of production.

I understand, you're young and stupid, you have nothing of your own and have no future, so you need someone else to take it from those who have, and who earned it, to hand it to you. You'll need to eat many more chicken nuggets before it reaches your brain...

We have a Social Contract and Constitution.

Where exactly is that "social contract" located?

Our Social Contract organizes our society which includes, Government. It must be our Constitution.

Where is that "social contract"? Link?

 

[danielpalos]

what dictionary says that, right winger?

The same one that says "Government is Socialism".

the Power to do Anything, is socialism, not capitalism.

Says who? You?

You can't say it is Capitalism.

That's why we don't want socialism, where government, under umbrella of "your "social contract" can do "anything".

socialism is Government simply Because, Government is not Capitalism.

 

[danielpalos]

Dan,

Just sit right back...and you'll hear a tale...

thank you for ceding the point and the argument, the right always fails to come up with.

 

[danielpalos]

the Power to do Anything, is socialism, not capitalism.

Groovy man. Which dictionary told you Government is Socialism?

social is about social-ism.

I think you're trying to say that any or all "services" provided by the government is socialism.

Are you?

i also have a dictionary understanding of social.

You need to decide, are we talking about social, or socialism?

lol. are you new here? we are discussing forms of social-ism.

 

[Ame®icano]

The same one that says "Government is Socialism".

the Power to do Anything, is socialism, not capitalism.

Says who? You?

You can't say it is Capitalism.

That's why we don't want socialism, where government, under umbrella of "your "social contract" can do "anything".

socialism is Government simply Because, Government is not Capitalism.

Retard alert.

Government is neither one.

 

[danielpalos]

Groovy man. Which dictionary told you Government is Socialism?

social is about social-ism.

I think you're trying to say that any or all "services" provided by the government is socialism.

Are you?

Don't help him. That's cheating!

in what way? i am resorting to the fewest fallacies, not the affirmative action of the franchise.

Tubular! Totally tubular!

i have an argument; the right wing, never does.

 

[danielpalos]

Yes, Government is Socialism. How can it be otherwise?

Nope. Post the definition. From Marx, or Lenin, or even Socialist party USA...

This is from their website:

"The Socialist Party strives to establish a radical democracy that places people's lives under their own control -- a non-racist, classless, feminist, socialist society in which people cooperate at work, at home, and in the community.

Socialism is not mere government ownership, a welfare state, or a repressive bureaucracy. Socialism is a new social and economic order in which workers and consumers control production and community residents control their neighborhoods, homes, and schools. The production of society is used for the benefit of all humanity, not for the private profit of a few. Socialism produces a constantly renewed future by not plundering the resources of the earth.”

Socialism is not form of government. Socialism is about government control over means of production.

I understand, you're young and stupid, you have nothing of your own and have no future, so you need someone else to take it from those who have, and who earned it, to hand it to you. You'll need to eat many more chicken nuggets before it reaches your brain...

We have a Social Contract and Constitution.

Where exactly is that "social contract" located?

Our Social Contract organizes our society which includes, Government. It must be our Constitution.

Where is that "social contract"? Link?

our Constitution.

 

[danielpalos]

the Power to do Anything, is socialism, not capitalism.

Says who? You?

You can't say it is Capitalism.

That's why we don't want socialism, where government, under umbrella of "your "social contract" can do "anything".

socialism is Government simply Because, Government is not Capitalism.

Retard alert.

Government is neither one.

because You say so? you have nothing but fallacy to support your contention, amigo.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Communists and Statists use the concept of social contract to justify their tyranny.

Social Contract is simply a truce on violence in a stateless form of existence. In other words, people agree to not try to kill each other as they compete to survive. Governments and laws are a reflection of that truce. To take social contract any further is a gross misunderstanding.

 

[EGR one]

If I was 40 year younger I'd probably be a socialist feeling that with the I.O.U. previous generations have stuck us with, the government owes us.

The government is us.

 

[Ame®icano]

Groovy man. Which dictionary told you Government is Socialism?

social is about social-ism.

I think you're trying to say that any or all "services" provided by the government is socialism.

Are you?

i also have a dictionary understanding of social.

You need to decide, are we talking about social, or socialism?

lol. are you new here? we are discussing forms of social-ism.

Social and socialism are not the same thing.

Once is related to interaction in between people or groups, the other one is economic system.

 

[danielpalos]

Communists and Statists use the concept of social contract to justify their tyranny.

Social Contract is simply a truce on violence in a stateless form of existence. In other words, people agree to not try to kill each other as they compete to survive. Governments and laws are a reflection of that truce. To take social contract any further is a gross misunderstanding.

Our usage of socialism is limited by our Constitution and that form of social Contract.

 

[Ame®icano]

social is about social-ism.

I think you're trying to say that any or all "services" provided by the government is socialism.

Are you?

Don't help him. That's cheating!

in what way? i am resorting to the fewest fallacies, not the affirmative action of the franchise.

Tubular! Totally tubular!

i have an argument; the right wing, never does.

Argument?

Nope, the "argument" is not what you think it is. Neither is "socialism".

 

[danielpalos]

social is about social-ism.

I think you're trying to say that any or all "services" provided by the government is socialism.

Are you?

i also have a dictionary understanding of social.

You need to decide, are we talking about social, or socialism?

lol. are you new here? we are discussing forms of social-ism.

Social and socialism are not the same thing.

Once is related to interaction in between people or groups, the other one is economic system.

right wing special pleading leads to right wing fantasy.

social-ism, is what we are discussing.

relating to society or its organization.

 

[Ame®icano]

Nope. Post the definition. From Marx, or Lenin, or even Socialist party USA...

This is from their website:

"The Socialist Party strives to establish a radical democracy that places people's lives under their own control -- a non-racist, classless, feminist, socialist society in which people cooperate at work, at home, and in the community.

Socialism is not mere government ownership, a welfare state, or a repressive bureaucracy. Socialism is a new social and economic order in which workers and consumers control production and community residents control their neighborhoods, homes, and schools. The production of society is used for the benefit of all humanity, not for the private profit of a few. Socialism produces a constantly renewed future by not plundering the resources of the earth.”

Socialism is not form of government. Socialism is about government control over means of production.

I understand, you're young and stupid, you have nothing of your own and have no future, so you need someone else to take it from those who have, and who earned it, to hand it to you. You'll need to eat many more chicken nuggets before it reaches your brain...

We have a Social Contract and Constitution.

Where exactly is that "social contract" located?

Our Social Contract organizes our society which includes, Government. It must be our Constitution.

Where is that "social contract"? Link?

our Constitution.

Constitution of the United States - We the People

CTRL+F Social

No matches found.

 

[danielpalos]

We have a Social Contract and Constitution.

Where exactly is that "social contract" located?

Our Social Contract organizes our society which includes, Government. It must be our Constitution.

Where is that "social contract"? Link?

our Constitution.

Constitution of the United States - We the People

CTRL+F Social

No matches found.

it is a social Contract for We the People

 

[Ame®icano]

Communists and Statists use the concept of social contract to justify their tyranny.

Social Contract is simply a truce on violence in a stateless form of existence. In other words, people agree to not try to kill each other as they compete to survive. Governments and laws are a reflection of that truce. To take social contract any further is a gross misunderstanding.

Our usage of socialism is limited by our Constitution and that form of social Contract.

Example?

 

[danielpalos]

I think you're trying to say that any or all "services" provided by the government is socialism.

Are you?

Don't help him. That's cheating!

in what way? i am resorting to the fewest fallacies, not the affirmative action of the franchise.

Tubular! Totally tubular!

i have an argument; the right wing, never does.

Argument?

Nope, the "argument" is not what you think it is. Neither is "socialism ".

the concept is social; not right wing special pleading.

social-ism. the right wing is, simply clueless and Causeless like usual.

 

[danielpalos]

Communists and Statists use the concept of social contract to justify their tyranny.

Social Contract is simply a truce on violence in a stateless form of existence. In other words, people agree to not try to kill each other as they compete to survive. Governments and laws are a reflection of that truce. To take social contract any further is a gross misunderstanding.

Our usage of socialism is limited by our Constitution and that form of social Contract.

Example?

All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.

a form of social-ism.

 

[Dan Stubbs]

Love it or hate it, is it not peculiar an idea that has been so taboo in our society is now mainstream, what happened? Why is socialism suddenly so popular?

Progressives are fucked in the head...

And they have no education then being snowflakes in their safe spaces.

Oh wow. The intellectual debate begins here.

I hear there are snowflakes on all sides btw. Some folks actually get OFFENDED when a boy kneels during the national anthem.

Kneeling offends them snowflakes I tell you, kneeling like at the Catholic Mass or when you get knighted.

But the important part is what they are kneeling for. Kneeling at the altar or to be knight is a sign of submission and acceptance, possibly contrition. Kneeling at the anthem is a symbolic defiance because it is the opposite of standing to respect those who literally gave their lives for the freedoms we enjoy. It is akin to giving the finger instead of placing one hand over the heart for the pledge. I love my country and appreciate the sacrifices made so I can raise my family here. Those who attack that are attacking what I hold dear. Are you saying this should not offend me? I think they should respect those things even if they don’t honor them. I believe our constitution allows me to be offended but does not allow me to silence the voices of those who offend me. Does this make me a snowflake, that I disagree with those who dishonor the sacrifices made for my freedom?


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I don’t think it makes you a snowflake. I get offended by the left all the time LOL but I don’t care if that makes me a snowflake or not...

The thing with the anthem protests is those who kneel are exercising their right to free speech, an American value, and many of those who say they shouldn’t get to kneel are advocates for freedom of speech so it makes them look like hypocrites. Can people only practice free speech when it’s something you (general) agree with?

I can admit the right’s response to the anthem protests distanced me from them a bit.

The Free press has brought it to the front and given it a lot of space on the front page. TV has been showing how great it would be.