Why Non-Believer's Can't Comprehend Christianity....

[edthecynic]

They don't understand this message about the glory of Christ, who is the exact likeness of God.

Yet you people claim he is one in the same..

yes, because he IS God
1 God, 3 Persons... get it?

4 people if you include the god Satan!

 

[rdean]

2 Corinthians 4:4

Satan, who is the god of this world, has blinded the minds of those who don't believe. They are unable to see the glorious light of the Good News. They don't understand this message about the glory of Christ, who is the exact likeness of God.

Don't expect to get far in a discussion with a non-believer or explain your salvation experience or your faith, they are incapable of understanding.

Right wing Christian Americans tend to follow the teachings of Satan over the Teachings of Christ.

Blocking health care, let him die, feed the poor and they will breed, make money any way you can get it and so on.

These are exactly what the followers of Satan preach.

 

[AVG-JOE]

You guys are only proving God's word

Let me know when there's proof those ancient Arab stories ARE the words of God.

They're just among the oldest surviving words.

And The Word Was God.

Word.
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[edthecynic]

1 God, 3 Persons... get it?

Dissociative identity disorder, once called multiple personality disorder, results in two or more split identities.

 

[AVG-JOE]

Telling how most Christians are oblivious to their sins of pride and arrogance.

It's true. And you're just as oblivious to your own.

Sin doesn't exist without law and law doesn't exist without God. You are acknowledging the law giver while denying Him with your attempts to discredit Christians.

Law exists at the pleasure of he who controls the enforcement.

Without enforcement, even Sharia Law is naught but words on paper.

 

[Moonglow]

Satan, who is the god of this world,

So you believe in more than one God!

They do let it slip...

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

"Why Non-Believer's Can't Comprehend Christianity...."

Nonsense.

Non-Christians are perfectly capable of 'comprehending' Christianity – there are Jews and Muslims who have a comprehensive understanding of Christianity, often a better understanding than many Christians.

Indeed, in the United States, the majority of those free from faith were once Christian, who also have a comprehensive knowledge and understanding of Christianity.

Consequently the OP's premise fails, and is yet another example of the arrogance common to most Christians.

Not arrogance. GOD's word

Arrogance – since there is no 'god' as perceived by theists, and consequently no 'word.'

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

You guys are only proving God's word

Wrong.

Because there is no 'god' as perceived by theists, there is also no 'word'; what you and other theists perceive to be 'god's word' is actually man's word, written by men, enforced by men, and taught by men – and erroneously believed to be 'true' by men.

You're of course at liberty to believe whatever myths and fables you wish, and acknowledge the fact that those who are not Christian are perfectly capable of 'comprehending' Christian doctrine and dogma – doctrine and dogma the creation of man.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Why Non-Believer's Can't Comprehend Christianity....

There are PLENTY of us non-Believers who comprehend Christianity quite well.

We're called 'Dis-Believers'.​

That means that we understand the stories and we grok the concept - we just don't buy it.

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Correct.

The same is true of Greek and Nordic mythology – in this case Christian mythology; all three just as false, all three perfectly understood.

 

[HaShev]

OP quote; "Why Non-Believer's Can't Comprehend Christianity"

Answer: because we did not have a lobotomy or because we never believed in santa claus.

 

[hobelim]

Telling how most Christians are oblivious to their sins of pride and arrogance.

And yet some people don't believe that masturbation causes blindness....

 

[hobelim]

1 God, 3 Persons... get it?

Dissociative identity disorder, once called multiple personality disorder, results in two or more split identities.

Thats exactly what happens when religion teaches people to believe that nonsense is the truth, the ability to profess a belief in the ridiculous is faith, and any rational thought or objection to that bullshit that might arise in their own mind is a satanic assault from an invisible disembodied entity which inspires the person to reject the very part of their own conscious mind which could possibly save them from the inevitable dissociative madness and a life of blindness, suffering and victimization by the real devils who fucked up their minds..

....And once a person loses their mind, with what can they get it back?

And who could possibly help them especially when they perceive that rational thought and disbelief is a sign of Satan in others?





There is no greater darkness than the darkness in the mind of the person whose only light in life is a lie.

 

[IsaacNewton]

2 Corinthians 4:4

Satan, who is the god of this world, has blinded the minds of those who don't believe. They are unable to see the glorious light of the Good News. They don't understand this message about the glory of Christ, who is the exact likeness of God.

Don't expect to get far in a discussion with a non-believer or explain your salvation experience or your faith, they are incapable of understanding.

As judgement is reserved for 'someone else' in the bible you seem to be falling over yourself to judge others.

You also shall be judged in kind. Welcome to Christianity.

 

[Bonzi]

It's a spiritual thing. To "see" the things of God you must have sight of His kingdom and have His spirit. For atheists, they see only the things of satan because the Lord's spirit doesn't dwell in them.

Wrong.

Those free from faith simply acknowledge the fact that there is no 'god' as perceived by theists, that religion and 'god' are creations of man, are inherently flawed because they are creations of man, where as a creation of man religion is devoid of secular and moral authority.

There is no 'god,' no 'kingdom,' no 'Satan,' and no 'lord' – all are myths and fables, the consequence of man's fear, ignorant, and arrogance.

Unless you are saved and born again (born of the Sprit) - you can not speak to it. Bottom line.
And you can't tell others whether their experiences are true or not, no matter what kind of intellectualism or twisted arguments you bring up.

That only clouds over the fact that you have not experienced the saving knowledge of Jesus Christ.

 

[Bonzi]

It's a spiritual thing. To "see" the things of God you must have sight of His kingdom and have His spirit. For atheists, they see only the things of satan because the Lord's spirit doesn't dwell in them.

Yes of course that's it!!!

It's totally normal for an unsaved person to not understand, therefore, to them (the unsaved) it makes no sense. Again, you are just proving the point God has made in the Bible.

 

[Bonzi]

1 God, 3 Persons... get it?

Dissociative identity disorder, once called multiple personality disorder, results in two or more split identities.

Thats exactly what happens when religion teaches people to believe that nonsense is the truth, the ability to profess a belief in the ridiculous is faith, and any rational thought or objection to that bullshit that might arise in their own mind is a satanic assault from an invisible disembodied entity which inspires the person to reject the very part of their own conscious mind which could possibly save them from the inevitable dissociative madness and a life of blindness, suffering and victimization by the real devils who fucked up their minds..

....And once a person loses their mind, with what can they get it back?

And who could possibly help them especially when they perceive that rational thought and disbelief is a sign of Satan in others?





There is no greater darkness than the darkness in the mind of the person whose only light in life is a lie.

Again, unless you experience it yourself, it is impossible for you to speak to it.
I think it's very revealing that you call people of faith mentally unstable.

 

[Bonzi]

They don't understand this message about the glory of Christ, who is the exact likeness of God.

Yet you people claim he is one in the same..

yes, because he IS God
1 God, 3 Persons... get it?

But your statement divided the oneness...a spirit is now considered a person?

Person meaning personal being (vs. impersonal thing).

 

[Bonzi]

Telling how most Christians are oblivious to their sins of pride and arrogance.

Some PROFESSED Christian's may be.
A true Christian is told to go tell the world about Jesus with meekness and humility.
I was an atheist until I was 38 years old. I'm not perfect, BUT, don't make excuses for sins I commit.
Being a Christian and being saved doesn't give you a license to sin.

 

[Bonzi]

There are many who left the faith that see it more clearly than Christians do. When you boil it all down, you believe what you want to, poking fun at people unwilling to suspend rational thought is just a way to feel justified.

I think once saved always saved. Being born of the spirit and being saved is not something you can turn from
(.... trust me I have tried, it's impossible) - you can't "unknow" what you know - you can't "unbe" what you were born with (in this case, the Spirit and enlightenment).

I do agree that poking fun at people is a silly, childish thing and doesn't facilitate any real discussion, however.

 

[Bonzi]

Telling how most Christians are oblivious to their sins of pride and arrogance.

It's true. And you're just as oblivious to your own.

Sin doesn't exist without law and law doesn't exist without God. You are acknowledging the law giver while denying Him with your attempts to discredit Christians.

But yet there is no proof from you that your God is the right God...

The proof is there, but you have to be willing to see it. With an open mind and heart....