healthmyths
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- Sep 19, 2011
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"For years, people who had been diagnosed with chronic health problems found it difficult, if not impossible, to purchase health insurance on the private market. "
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Yeah, I had the same problem, I found it impossible to purchase fire insurance on my house after it burned down.
What kind of heartless asshole won't insurance against eventualities that have already occurred ?
What you've posted is disgusting and not what is happening.
I'm a good example.
I am going to lose the insurance I've had for many decades because of divorce.
I've paid premiums, deductibles and copayments all my adult life. I've paid into the insurance system for decades but never needed to use it.
Then one day in 2009 while on vacation massive 15 ft monster waves fell on me. Nearly killed me and put me in a coma. I ended up with a spine injury with nerve damage in my hands and arms.
Two years after that I was diagnosed with breast cancer.
I knew all my adult life that while I had not used my insurance I was paying for someone else to have health care who needed it. When I needed it, I would have it.
That's the way insurance works. People pool their money together to pay the bills. No one person can afford to pay it themselves so insurance brought many people together to pay their health care costs.
I paid for people before me for decades. My money made sure that they didn't die from an accident or disease. I was very happy to pay it knowing that when I got older my medical bills would be paid.
Now, because of divorce, I lose that insurance I've been paying into all my adult life.
I paid thousands of dollars over the decades for other people to have insurance. Now that it's my turn to have my medical bills paid, the republicans are trying their hardest to take it from me.
Once COBRA runs out for me I'm on my own. No employer provided insurance anymore. I'm on the open market. Where republicans are trying their best to make sure I'll never be able to buy insurance again.
Only because you buy into stupid slogans like you posted above. I've paid into the system for decades. Through no fault of my own, I'm going to lose it and you republicans are doing everything you can to make sure I will never be able to buy insurance again.
Let me make this very clear to you.
I STARTED PAYING FOR INSURANCE IN 1978 WHEN I TURNED 18 AND NO LONGER COULD BE ON MY PARENTS POLICY.
I'VE PAID INTO IT FOR 40 YEARS. MY HOUSE DIDN'T BURN DOWN THEN I EXPECTED PEOPLE TO REBUILD IT.
I PAID THOUSANDS OVER 40 YEARS.
I'm not asking for anything free nor any special treatment. I paid for others for decades. I paid and paid my own dues and now you want to lie about it to justify making it legal for no insurance company to sell me insurance ever again in my life.
The only reason why many people didn't have health care was some insurance company rated them preexisting condition then kicked them off insurance, leaving them with the that history so no other insurance company will sell it to them. In most cases it wasn't the person's choice. They got sick, kicked off their insurance and no other company would sell to them.
It's a system that's very bad and needed to be reformed.
The last thing a sick person should face is being denied health care.
It's a conflict of interest to allow an insurance company to make the decision if a person gets care or not. They have a financial interest to not provide that care so they shouldn't be making that decision.
No government should have the right to take health care from people through legislation without offering the people an alternative.
republicans say they want to offer choice but leave out the best choice we can have. A public option. The only reason why republicans won't allow a public option is because the vast majority of Americans will choose that public option over the lying and thieving insurance company. Private for profit insurance companies will go out of business. They have treated Americans so horribly that most of us would run to a public option just to get away from the lying, thieving insurance companies.
REALLY Sorry for you
The whole health care crisis was built on two gigantic LIES: Never were 46 million uninsured and never 160 million Americans with pre-existing conditions!
Because those two gigantic lies then completely upset the market place and as a result now a huge mess has occurred.
YES there are people like you with "pre-existing conditions"... BUT NOT 160 million!
Yes there is a solution for people like you!
TAX the lawyers that cause $1 trillion in wasted health expenses which ADD up to the claims the insurance companies pay out and consequently grossly inflate the premiums!
YOU blame the insurance companies for "lying and thieving"... WHAT a totally ignorant comment!
These "lying and thieving" companies have to make a profit in case you didn't know! They are required by the states where they sell their insurance to maintain "reserves".
These reserves come from profits and are under state laws required so claims can be paid!
NOW in your specific case, yes you are a person suffering from a pre-existing condition. AND that can be solved easily!
TAX the lawyers as I said above 10% of their
health expenses.
10% of the legal services industry in the United States generated that $256.66 billion in revenue in 2013.
Topic: Legal services industry in the U.S.
$25 billion in tax revenue would provide a $340/month health insurance premium for the 6 million that have pre-existing conditions... including YOU!
And in doing so when THE below $1 trillion in wasted health care expenses DECLINE so too would not only the tax on the lawyers BUT the cost of health insurance!
See again vast majority of people including you are grossly unaware of the REAL fact that under Obamacare insurance companies WERE forced FORCED to pay 85%
of the premiums they collected out in claims. NOW that doesn't sound bad to people like you who ONLY know what you know!
BUT prior to ACA insurance companies paid out an average of 80% which left 20% for overhead, salaries, taxes and profits out of which the above mentioned reserves were paid.
BUT with dumb ass Obamacare forcing another 5% i.e. 85% WHAT were these insurance companies FORCED by STATE laws to maintain reserves do? HIKE premiums, cut costs,
reduce what they had to pay out in claims. AGAIN to people like you though that sound OK!
BUT this is where you people are so out of touch with financial realities!
SO lobby your congressperson to set up a plan to TAX lawyers as above so you 6 million with pre-existing can have health insurance AND the costs of premiums WILL HAVE to go down because the STATEs force insurance companies to justify their premiums. IF the insurance companies pay out less then 80% say 75% of claims... THEN the states won't
allow premiums to INCREASE but will force premiums to decrease!
Understand... this is how it can be solved for people like YOU!!!
JUST read the below what doctors are telling you! They are forced to do what they are doing and the PROOF is half of the Federal contracted doctors that responded don't practice defensive medicine because of a 1946 Federal Tort Act that forbids physicians under contract with the government to be sued!
Think about it! $1 trillion in wasted expenses that insurance companies pay and pass on in the form of premiums!
It can be reduced! Think... If the insurance companies can't raise their premiums by STATE regulators because they haven't had to pay out as much for "DEFENSIVE MEDICINE" claims, that means lower premiums.