Why Religion Must Be Banished....

...from the public arena and the public's consciousness: because it is the only way Leftism can survive.



1. The Founders were all deeply religious, steeped in Judeo-Christian tradition and the Bible. This was the warning:

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious People. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other" John Adams to Massachusetts Militia, 11 October 1798




2. Compare that to the worldview of the elites, and the operators of government school:

"Just because any religious idea, any idea of any god at all, any flirtation even with a god, is the most inexpressible foulness, particularly tolerantly (and often even favourably) accepted by the democratic bourgeoisie—for that very reason it is the most dangerous foulness, the most shameful “infection.” A million physical sins, dirty tricks, acts of violence and infections are much more easily discovered by the crowd, and therefore are much less dangerous, than the nubile, spiritual idea of god, dressed up in the most attractive “ideological” costumes."
Letter from Lenin to Maxim Gorky, Written on November 13 or 14, 1913



3. Those who have accepted Liberalism, postmodernism, Progressivism, mock the idea of the Judeo-Christian God, and compare same to Santa Clause and the Tooth Fairy.
And, they must.
Because if they accept the traditional view of God....then they would be forced to accept the corollary, the view that Evil, or Satan, or Lucifer, exist as well.....and the evidence would prove that Leftism is animated by that evil.




4. Compare Ronald Reagan's response to the what he named 'the evil empire' to Obama, who embraced and supported evil early on in his political career.

And, this is no surprise, as Barack Obama's mentor was Saul Alinsky, proud of his affiliation with the personification of evil:

"Alinsky dedicated his book to none other than the fallen angel Lucifer, yes that Lucifer, whom he describes as "the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment (that would be God) and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom." Webutante: The Late Saul Alinsky, Obama's Radical Community Organizer Inspirer-in-Chief





If the true animator of Leftism was revealed....the American people would never support any of its iterations:
Liberalism, Progressivism, Nazism, Communism, Socialism or Fascism.
Never.


So....their mission is to banish God and religion.
Never happen. They have been trying to do just that for two thousand years. They have failed. Not only did they fail, but their persecution only makes Christianity thrive. Historically, everytime Christians were persecuted, Christianity became stronger, and many came to know Christ. So, go right ahead and persecute Christians. Won't do you a bit of good. We're not going anywhere.



"...go right ahead and persecute Christians. Won't do you a bit of good."

Who is the 'you' to whom you refer?
People who hate Christ. They're the only ones I know of who persecute Christians.


It appeared you were addressing me.
That would have been an error.
 
...from the public arena and the public's consciousness: because it is the only way Leftism can survive.



1. The Founders were all deeply religious, steeped in Judeo-Christian tradition and the Bible. This was the warning:

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious People. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other" John Adams to Massachusetts Militia, 11 October 1798




2. Compare that to the worldview of the elites, and the operators of government school:

"Just because any religious idea, any idea of any god at all, any flirtation even with a god, is the most inexpressible foulness, particularly tolerantly (and often even favourably) accepted by the democratic bourgeoisie—for that very reason it is the most dangerous foulness, the most shameful “infection.” A million physical sins, dirty tricks, acts of violence and infections are much more easily discovered by the crowd, and therefore are much less dangerous, than the nubile, spiritual idea of god, dressed up in the most attractive “ideological” costumes."
Letter from Lenin to Maxim Gorky, Written on November 13 or 14, 1913



3. Those who have accepted Liberalism, postmodernism, Progressivism, mock the idea of the Judeo-Christian God, and compare same to Santa Clause and the Tooth Fairy.
And, they must.
Because if they accept the traditional view of God....then they would be forced to accept the corollary, the view that Evil, or Satan, or Lucifer, exist as well.....and the evidence would prove that Leftism is animated by that evil.




4. Compare Ronald Reagan's response to the what he named 'the evil empire' to Obama, who embraced and supported evil early on in his political career.

And, this is no surprise, as Barack Obama's mentor was Saul Alinsky, proud of his affiliation with the personification of evil:

"Alinsky dedicated his book to none other than the fallen angel Lucifer, yes that Lucifer, whom he describes as "the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment (that would be God) and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom." Webutante: The Late Saul Alinsky, Obama's Radical Community Organizer Inspirer-in-Chief





If the true animator of Leftism was revealed....the American people would never support any of its iterations:
Liberalism, Progressivism, Nazism, Communism, Socialism or Fascism.
Never.


So....their mission is to banish God and religion.
Never happen. They have been trying to do just that for two thousand years. They have failed. Not only did they fail, but their persecution only makes Christianity thrive. Historically, everytime Christians were persecuted, Christianity became stronger, and many came to know Christ. So, go right ahead and persecute Christians. Won't do you a bit of good. We're not going anywhere.



"...go right ahead and persecute Christians. Won't do you a bit of good."

Who is the 'you' to whom you refer?
People who hate Christ. They're the only ones I know of who persecute Christians.


It appeared you were addressing me.
That would have been an error.
I used the generic you. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
 
The Separation of Church and State is in the 1st Amendment. Our founders came from England to trade and get away from religious tyranny.

Only the Judeo-Christian faiths are based on free will and individualism.
Free will is mainly an illusion and individualism, you are right every Jew and Christian has their own individual ideology of what being Jewish and Christian means, a buffet of a thousand flavors.

Judeo didn't exist in front of Christianity till Israel announce themselves as a self proclaimed state. Just because most of the founders were baptized didn't mean they were religious. It was pretty automatic in those days.
 
The Separation of Church and State is in the 1st Amendment. Our founders came from England to trade and get away from religious tyranny.

Only the Judeo-Christian faiths are based on free will and individualism.
Free will is mainly an illusion and individualism, you are right every Jew and Christian has their own individual ideology of what being Jewish and Christian means, a buffet of a thousand flavors.

Judeo didn't exist in front of Christianity till Israel announce themselves as a self proclaimed state. Just because most of the founders were baptized didn't mean they were religious. It was pretty automatic in those days.

"The Separation of Church and State is in the 1st Amendment."
Gads, you're an imbecile.


Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
 
The Separation of Church and State is in the 1st Amendment. Our founders came from England to trade and get away from religious tyranny.

Only the Judeo-Christian faiths are based on free will and individualism.
Free will is mainly an illusion and individualism, you are right every Jew and Christian has their own individual ideology of what being Jewish and Christian means, a buffet of a thousand flavors.

Judeo didn't exist in front of Christianity till Israel announce themselves as a self proclaimed state. Just because most of the founders were baptized didn't mean they were religious. It was pretty automatic in those days.

"The Separation of Church and State is in the 1st Amendment."
Gads, you're an imbecile.


Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Exactly and that is why we were not founded on Judeo -Christian religion or any G-d dam religion.
 
The Separation of Church and State is in the 1st Amendment. Our founders came from England to trade and get away from religious tyranny.

Only the Judeo-Christian faiths are based on free will and individualism.
Free will is mainly an illusion and individualism, you are right every Jew and Christian has their own individual ideology of what being Jewish and Christian means, a buffet of a thousand flavors.

Judeo didn't exist in front of Christianity till Israel announce themselves as a self proclaimed state. Just because most of the founders were baptized didn't mean they were religious. It was pretty automatic in those days.

"The Separation of Church and State is in the 1st Amendment."
Gads, you're an imbecile.


Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Most liberals simply don't realize that the First Amendment was not intended to protect government from religion. It was meant to protect religion from the government. It worked for about two hundred years, but then modern liberals reared their ugly heads and declared otherwise.
 
Prove God and I'll join you in worshiping him.

Otherwise, why believe? And attempt to use the law to force such on other people. I don't want to banish your beliefs but I do want you to realize that they're based on nothing more then your faith.
 
Prove God and I'll join you in worshiping him.

Otherwise, why believe? And attempt to use the law to force such on other people. I don't want to banish your beliefs but I do want you to realize that they're based on nothing more then your faith.


Prove you have any intelligence and I may entertain your question.
 
...from the public arena and the public's consciousness: because it is the only way Leftism can survive.



1. The Founders were all deeply religious, steeped in Judeo-Christian tradition and the Bible. This was the warning:

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious People. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other" John Adams to Massachusetts Militia, 11 October 1798




2. Compare that to the worldview of the elites, and the operators of government school:

"Just because any religious idea, any idea of any god at all, any flirtation even with a god, is the most inexpressible foulness, particularly tolerantly (and often even favourably) accepted by the democratic bourgeoisie—for that very reason it is the most dangerous foulness, the most shameful “infection.” A million physical sins, dirty tricks, acts of violence and infections are much more easily discovered by the crowd, and therefore are much less dangerous, than the nubile, spiritual idea of god, dressed up in the most attractive “ideological” costumes."
Letter from Lenin to Maxim Gorky, Written on November 13 or 14, 1913



3. Those who have accepted Liberalism, postmodernism, Progressivism, mock the idea of the Judeo-Christian God, and compare same to Santa Clause and the Tooth Fairy.
And, they must.
Because if they accept the traditional view of God....then they would be forced to accept the corollary, the view that Evil, or Satan, or Lucifer, exist as well.....and the evidence would prove that Leftism is animated by that evil.




4. Compare Ronald Reagan's response to the what he named 'the evil empire' to Obama, who embraced and supported evil early on in his political career.

And, this is no surprise, as Barack Obama's mentor was Saul Alinsky, proud of his affiliation with the personification of evil:

"Alinsky dedicated his book to none other than the fallen angel Lucifer, yes that Lucifer, whom he describes as "the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment (that would be God) and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom." Webutante: The Late Saul Alinsky, Obama's Radical Community Organizer Inspirer-in-Chief





If the true animator of Leftism was revealed....the American people would never support any of its iterations:
Liberalism, Progressivism, Nazism, Communism, Socialism or Fascism.
Never.


So....their mission is to banish God and religion.
They weren’t Jews.

And what about Mormons? They say you’re wrong
 
The Separation of Church and State is in the 1st Amendment. Our founders came from England to trade and get away from religious tyranny.

Only the Judeo-Christian faiths are based on free will and individualism.
Free will is mainly an illusion and individualism, you are right every Jew and Christian has their own individual ideology of what being Jewish and Christian means, a buffet of a thousand flavors.

Judeo didn't exist in front of Christianity till Israel announce themselves as a self proclaimed state. Just because most of the founders were baptized didn't mean they were religious. It was pretty automatic in those days.

"The Separation of Church and State is in the 1st Amendment."
Gads, you're an imbecile.


Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Most liberals simply don't realize that the First Amendment was not intended to protect government from religion. It was meant to protect religion from the government. It worked for about two hundred years, but then modern liberals reared their ugly heads and declared otherwise.

Since we have established that the US was not founded on any particular religion , I guess the Fed and State govs should refrain from any religious talk, laws, and religious symbols on government property.
 
The Separation of Church and State is in the 1st Amendment. Our founders came from England to trade and get away from religious tyranny.

Only the Judeo-Christian faiths are based on free will and individualism.
Free will is mainly an illusion and individualism, you are right every Jew and Christian has their own individual ideology of what being Jewish and Christian means, a buffet of a thousand flavors.

Judeo didn't exist in front of Christianity till Israel announce themselves as a self proclaimed state. Just because most of the founders were baptized didn't mean they were religious. It was pretty automatic in those days.

"The Separation of Church and State is in the 1st Amendment."
Gads, you're an imbecile.


Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Most liberals simply don't realize that the First Amendment was not intended to protect government from religion. It was meant to protect religion from the government. It worked for about two hundred years, but then modern liberals reared their ugly heads and declared otherwise.

Since we have established that the US was not founded on any particular religion , I guess the Fed and State govs should refrain from any religious talk, laws, and religious symbols on government property.


It was founded based on the Bible.


Fact.
 
The Separation of Church and State is in the 1st Amendment. Our founders came from England to trade and get away from religious tyranny.

Only the Judeo-Christian faiths are based on free will and individualism.
Free will is mainly an illusion and individualism, you are right every Jew and Christian has their own individual ideology of what being Jewish and Christian means, a buffet of a thousand flavors.

Judeo didn't exist in front of Christianity till Israel announce themselves as a self proclaimed state. Just because most of the founders were baptized didn't mean they were religious. It was pretty automatic in those days.

"The Separation of Church and State is in the 1st Amendment."
Gads, you're an imbecile.


Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Most liberals simply don't realize that the First Amendment was not intended to protect government from religion. It was meant to protect religion from the government. It worked for about two hundred years, but then modern liberals reared their ugly heads and declared otherwise.

Since we have established that the US was not founded on any particular religion , I guess the Fed and State govs should refrain from any religious talk, laws, and religious symbols on government property.

Oh? Where and when was that established? Certainly not in the 18th Century, leftist.

Why is there a Yuge chapel in Congress, hmm?

Were not days of prayer and fasting called for by the President back in the founding days of this country ?

You damn right there were. You may as well take your revisionist history ball and slink home. Homie ain't playin' that.

Don't care about source, info is good. :coffee: The actual documents still exist, so you may as well give that up. :)

When our leaders used to call us to prayer and fasting
 
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The Separation of Church and State is in the 1st Amendment. Our founders came from England to trade and get away from religious tyranny.

Only the Judeo-Christian faiths are based on free will and individualism.
Free will is mainly an illusion and individualism, you are right every Jew and Christian has their own individual ideology of what being Jewish and Christian means, a buffet of a thousand flavors.

Judeo didn't exist in front of Christianity till Israel announce themselves as a self proclaimed state. Just because most of the founders were baptized didn't mean they were religious. It was pretty automatic in those days.

"The Separation of Church and State is in the 1st Amendment."
Gads, you're an imbecile.


Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Most liberals simply don't realize that the First Amendment was not intended to protect government from religion. It was meant to protect religion from the government. It worked for about two hundred years, but then modern liberals reared their ugly heads and declared otherwise.

Since we have established that the US was not founded on any particular religion , I guess the Fed and State govs should refrain from any religious talk, laws, and religious symbols on government property.


It was founded based on the Bible.


Fact.
Yep. There is nothing so scary as ignorance in action. You see it on here all the time. I fear for the human race, if atheist liberals continue to multiply as they have been doing.
 
The Separation of Church and State is in the 1st Amendment. Our founders came from England to trade and get away from religious tyranny.

Only the Judeo-Christian faiths are based on free will and individualism.
Free will is mainly an illusion and individualism, you are right every Jew and Christian has their own individual ideology of what being Jewish and Christian means, a buffet of a thousand flavors.

Judeo didn't exist in front of Christianity till Israel announce themselves as a self proclaimed state. Just because most of the founders were baptized didn't mean they were religious. It was pretty automatic in those days.

"The Separation of Church and State is in the 1st Amendment."
Gads, you're an imbecile.


Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Most liberals simply don't realize that the First Amendment was not intended to protect government from religion. It was meant to protect religion from the government. It worked for about two hundred years, but then modern liberals reared their ugly heads and declared otherwise.

Since we have established that the US was not founded on any particular religion , I guess the Fed and State govs should refrain from any religious talk, laws, and religious symbols on government property.


It was founded based on the Bible.


Fact.

No it was not.. Freedom of religion does not sound like it was based on the bible , does it now??
 
The Separation of Church and State is in the 1st Amendment. Our founders came from England to trade and get away from religious tyranny.

Only the Judeo-Christian faiths are based on free will and individualism.
Free will is mainly an illusion and individualism, you are right every Jew and Christian has their own individual ideology of what being Jewish and Christian means, a buffet of a thousand flavors.

Judeo didn't exist in front of Christianity till Israel announce themselves as a self proclaimed state. Just because most of the founders were baptized didn't mean they were religious. It was pretty automatic in those days.

"The Separation of Church and State is in the 1st Amendment."
Gads, you're an imbecile.


Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Most liberals simply don't realize that the First Amendment was not intended to protect government from religion. It was meant to protect religion from the government. It worked for about two hundred years, but then modern liberals reared their ugly heads and declared otherwise.

Since we have established that the US was not founded on any particular religion , I guess the Fed and State govs should refrain from any religious talk, laws, and religious symbols on government property.

Oh? Where and when was that established? Certainly not in the 18th Century, leftist.

Why is there a Yuge chapel in Congress, hmm?

Were not days of prayer and fasting called for by the President back in the founding days of this country ?

You damn right there were. You may as well take your revisionist history ball and slink home. Homie ain't playin' that.

Don't care about source, info is good. :coffee: The actual documents still exist, so you may as well give that up. :)

When our leaders used to call us to prayer and fasting

No you take your revisionist history and put it where the sun doesn't shine. The US was not founded on Judeo - Christianity.

It doesn't matter what they use to do the fact remains , the first amendment is freedom of religion.
 
The Separation of Church and State is in the 1st Amendment. Our founders came from England to trade and get away from religious tyranny.

Free will is mainly an illusion and individualism, you are right every Jew and Christian has their own individual ideology of what being Jewish and Christian means, a buffet of a thousand flavors.

Judeo didn't exist in front of Christianity till Israel announce themselves as a self proclaimed state. Just because most of the founders were baptized didn't mean they were religious. It was pretty automatic in those days.

"The Separation of Church and State is in the 1st Amendment."
Gads, you're an imbecile.


Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Most liberals simply don't realize that the First Amendment was not intended to protect government from religion. It was meant to protect religion from the government. It worked for about two hundred years, but then modern liberals reared their ugly heads and declared otherwise.

Since we have established that the US was not founded on any particular religion , I guess the Fed and State govs should refrain from any religious talk, laws, and religious symbols on government property.


It was founded based on the Bible.


Fact.
Yep. There is nothing so scary as ignorance in action. You see it on here all the time. I fear for the human race, if atheist liberals continue to multiply as they have been doing.

Atheist liberals. I think you are truly scary, you and Alice . Why not go and live in a theocracy , like Saudi Arabia.

If atheists liberals continue to multiply, WHAT? You fear for the human race. Why not just worry about yourself.

Do you go into work and ask people their religion? I have never done that and also no one has ever done that to me in my many years of work, or in life generally.
 
The Founders were all deeply religious, steeped in Judeo-Christian tradition and the Bible. This was the warning:
BS


5 Founding Fathers Whose Skepticism About Christianity Would Make Them Unelectable Today

The whole history of these books [the Gospels] is so defective and doubtful that it seems vain to attempt minute enquiry into it: and such tricks have been played with their text, and with the texts of other books relating to them, that we have a right, from that cause, to entertain much doubt what parts of them are genuine. In the New Testament there is internal evidence that parts of it have proceeded from an extraordinary man; and that other parts are of the fabric of very inferior minds. It is as easy to separate those parts, as to pick out diamonds from dunghills.

-Thomas Jefferson, letter to John Adams, January 24, 1814

And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerve in the brain of Jupiter. But may we hope that the dawn of reason and freedom of thought in these United States will do away with this artificial scaffolding, and restore to us the primitive and genuine doctrines of this most venerated reformer of human errors.

-Thomas Jefferson, Letter to John Adams, April 11, 1823
 
The Separation of Church and State is in the 1st Amendment. Our founders came from England to trade and get away from religious tyranny.

Only the Judeo-Christian faiths are based on free will and individualism.
Free will is mainly an illusion and individualism, you are right every Jew and Christian has their own individual ideology of what being Jewish and Christian means, a buffet of a thousand flavors.

Judeo didn't exist in front of Christianity till Israel announce themselves as a self proclaimed state. Just because most of the founders were baptized didn't mean they were religious. It was pretty automatic in those days.

"The Separation of Church and State is in the 1st Amendment."
Gads, you're an imbecile.


Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Most liberals simply don't realize that the First Amendment was not intended to protect government from religion. It was meant to protect religion from the government. It worked for about two hundred years, but then modern liberals reared their ugly heads and declared otherwise.

Since we have established that the US was not founded on any particular religion , I guess the Fed and State govs should refrain from any religious talk, laws, and religious symbols on government property.


It was founded based on the Bible.


Fact.
you must not have been born in America or know any American history


As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion;

Treaty of Tripoli - Wikipedia
 
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The Separation of Church and State is in the 1st Amendment. Our founders came from England to trade and get away from religious tyranny.

Free will is mainly an illusion and individualism, you are right every Jew and Christian has their own individual ideology of what being Jewish and Christian means, a buffet of a thousand flavors.

Judeo didn't exist in front of Christianity till Israel announce themselves as a self proclaimed state. Just because most of the founders were baptized didn't mean they were religious. It was pretty automatic in those days.

"The Separation of Church and State is in the 1st Amendment."
Gads, you're an imbecile.


Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Most liberals simply don't realize that the First Amendment was not intended to protect government from religion. It was meant to protect religion from the government. It worked for about two hundred years, but then modern liberals reared their ugly heads and declared otherwise.

Since we have established that the US was not founded on any particular religion , I guess the Fed and State govs should refrain from any religious talk, laws, and religious symbols on government property.

Oh? Where and when was that established? Certainly not in the 18th Century, leftist.

Why is there a Yuge chapel in Congress, hmm?

Were not days of prayer and fasting called for by the President back in the founding days of this country ?

You damn right there were. You may as well take your revisionist history ball and slink home. Homie ain't playin' that.

Don't care about source, info is good. :coffee: The actual documents still exist, so you may as well give that up. :)

When our leaders used to call us to prayer and fasting

No you take your revisionist history and put it where the sun doesn't shine. The US was not founded on Judeo - Christianity.

It doesn't matter what they use to do the fact remains , the first amendment is freedom of religion.

Proof? If you haul out that Jefferson thing, talking about the Barbaric Muslims, that's fail, k?

Just so you know in advance.

Know why the Marines are called "Leathernecks"? They wore leather neck protectors to guard against the Barbary Muslim Pirates' behead attack.
 

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