Why should other taxpayers have to subsidize gay mating?

[Syriusly]

"Why should other taxpayers have to subsidize gay mating?"

Whatever marriage's faults or failings, whatever objections one might have to the provisions of marriage contracts, those issues have nothing whatsoever to do with the fact that same-sex couples are eligible to access marriage law as required by the 14th Amendment.

No couples do not enjoy rights. Individuals enjoy rights. And there is no one who lacks access to marriage. Same rules for everyone.

You funny...


This is the part where Rabbi tells us gays are allowed to marry people of the opposite sex

Can't make this shit up

So you think gays are not allowed to marry members of the opposite sex? Loser.

Rabbi logic 101

Gays are allowed to marry as long as they behave just like us and ignore their sexuality

You should be a Supreme Court Justice

Gays are us, dummy. There is no such thing as "gay marriage." There is not and has never been an application for a marriage license that asks sexual preference.
And plenty of gays are and have been married to members of the opposite sex.

True- there is only marriage- but dummy's like you sure have been fighting hard against 'gay marriage'- i.e. allowing homosexual couples to marry the persons that they want.

 

[Syriusly]

Really? Who does it list as the biological father of the child?

It does not list one. Parent One: me Parent Two: my wife

ROFL! In other words, it's a fraud. How can both of you possibly the child's biological parents?

You live in a world of make believe.

In other words, it's called a 2nd parent adoption and its legal in most states.

In other words you admit that neither of you is the child's father.

If one of them is the wife then the other must be the husband. it.

Why?

Female spouses are called 'wife' in English.

Not husband.

 

[Syriusly]

KAZ, are you a cock sucking faggot?

I see no other explination for your constant creation of or bumping of threads about the queer lifestyle.

Just come out of the closet & stfu about it already ok?

Perhaps I should start creating threads about my straight lifestyle? My straight love? My straight sex?

Get it dumbfuck? You and all the rest of you fag obsessed idiots, left or right, need to stop.

Are you trolling him, Gramps? Did your stay in the graybar give you a taste for cock?

I will troll any idiot who keeps obsessing about the personal lives of others.

Did you bother to read the OP? The question was a good one: What benefit does society get by imposing gay marriage? "

The same benefit that society gets by 'imposing straight marriage'.

 

[Syriusly]

It does not list one. Parent One: me Parent Two: my wife

ROFL! In other words, it's a fraud. How can both of you possibly the child's biological parents?

You live in a world of make believe.

In other words, it's called a 2nd parent adoption and its legal in most states.

In other words you admit that neither of you is the child's father.

If one of them is the wife then the other must be the husband. OK, so we'll call the husband the wife and the father the parent. Or something.
How does society get any benefit from this mangling of the English language, this total fantasy that things are merely what we choose to call them, this canard that men=women=men? There is no justification for any of it.

Liberal judges and bureaucrats don't give a damn about what's in the best interests of society. Catering to their pet constituencies is all that matters. That's how you gain power, after all.

It is obvious that you don't give a damn about whats best for society- all you care about is promoting your own repressive agenda.

 

[Syriusly]

ROFL! In other words, it's a fraud. How can both of you possibly the child's biological parents?

You live in a world of make believe.

In other words, it's called a 2nd parent adoption and its legal in most states.

In other words you admit that neither of you is the child's father.

If one of them is the wife then the other must be the husband. OK, so we'll call the husband the wife and the father the parent. Or something.
How does society get any benefit from this mangling of the English language, this total fantasy that things are merely what we choose to call them, this canard that men=women=men? There is no justification for any of it.

Or they are both parents who love their child.....what a concept

They cant both be the child's parents. You understand that, right?

Of course they can.

Just as Bob and Dolores were both the parents of their adopted children.

 

[Syriusly]

Finally someone makes the point. Thank you. I disagree with you, but still I thank you for correctly stating the issue. I think govt has a legit interest in making child rearing less hard to do. I realize there's a distinction between a tax break for breeders than taxing everyone for schools, even if they're non-breeders. Perhaps it would be better civics to simply not have the tax break, but instead offer more public services to kids so the parents don't have a direct expense.

Kaz was masking it with his irrational loathing of gays. And that in turn gave those who either don't know, or choose to ignore, that pretty much universally people who find sex with same sex persons or person if more fulfilling, than sex with non-same sex person or persons, have previously had sex with said non-same sex person or persons.

You people are actually, really, truly stupid. That is the one thing you continually demonstrate

Kaz yanking his own dick again.

I am surprised he has managed to keep it attached.

I only have that problem after seeing some great lesbian porn. Gay is a disease, you know. The CDC says so and they are trying to help. I'm hoping it's just a vitamin deficiency and they can fix them without medication. Though medication would be better than hell I suppose. Don't you think?

Could you please link to the CDC defining homosexuality as a disease?

And then remind us that you don't believe the existence of the CDC is constitutional.

Why would anyone ask a totally discredited organization like the CDC?

Hmmm who should we ask?

A far right wing nut like Brip- or an actual reputable organization like the CDC.......?

 

[kaz]

You have a long history of ranting about the unconstitutionality of federal agencies. A very common RWnut affliction on this board

Stopped reading here

 

[Syriusly]

I will troll any idiot who keeps obsessing about the personal lives of others.

Did you bother to read the OP? The question was a good one: What benefit does society get by imposing gay marriage? Of course the morons here cannot deal with a topic that runs counter to their programmed noises. So they deflect to stupid things like "the personal lives of others."

Nobody is imposing gay marriage

They are merely allowing two people who love each other to marry

LOL! No, federal judges didnt strike down laws and constitutional amendments in states. That was some kind of conservative lie.

Nobody has forced you to marry anyone you don't approve of

They are demanding that we pay benefits to people who have no business being married.

I am required to 'pay benefits' to all sorts of people who have no business being married- most of them straight. What we are demanding is that gay couples be treated under the law the same as my wife and I are treated.

You object to that because you hate gays.

 

[kaz]

Sure it does. It's the "CDC," the "Center for Disease[/u] Control and so they study diseases. They study gays, so they are saying gays are a disease. And in that link they are saying HIV is a gay disease, it's a disease of the diseased. Get it now?

I get that, quite clearly, only a moron could post what you just posted and actually believe the shit.

Only a moron would actually believe I believe that shit after reading my other posts. I can't take you seriously, you and NYCarbineer are just too stupid to have normal dialog with

So you fall back on your posts all being in jest when cornered and then have the vagina to actually say YOU cant take people seriously

Take a fuckin break, mule

I just want gays to be saved. Gay is worse than murder, at least when you murder you only kill one person, gays threaten the survival of the species and poison the rest. They need to repent, there may be hope still

You do realize that most cases of HIV are among straights, yes?

Oh, and if the mention of gays on the CDC website means that gays are disease, can we correctly conclude that you consider pregnant women, infants and children disease as well?

HIV Among Pregnant Women, Infants, and Children

HIV transmission from mother to child during pregnancy, labor and delivery, or breastfeeding is known as perinatal transmission and is the most common route of HIV infection in children. When HIV is diagnosed before or during pregnancy, perinatal transmission can be reduced to less than 1% if appropriate medical treatment is given, the virus becomes undetectable, and breastfeeding is avoided. Since the mid-1990s, HIV testing and preventive interventions have resulted in more than a 90% decline in the number of children perinatally infected with HIV in the United States.

CDC - HIV Among Pregnant Women Infants and Children - Pregnant Women Gender Risk

Wouldn't that also make being a pregnant woman 'worse than murder'...at least using your batshit logic?

You people are so stupid and clueless it's hilarious

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

I get that, quite clearly, only a moron could post what you just posted and actually believe the shit.

Only a moron would actually believe I believe that shit after reading my other posts. I can't take you seriously, you and NYCarbineer are just too stupid to have normal dialog with

So you fall back on your posts all being in jest when cornered and then have the vagina to actually say YOU cant take people seriously

Take a fuckin break, mule

I just want gays to be saved. Gay is worse than murder, at least when you murder you only kill one person, gays threaten the survival of the species and poison the rest. They need to repent, there may be hope still

You do realize that most cases of HIV are among straights, yes?

Oh, and if the mention of gays on the CDC website means that gays are disease, can we correctly conclude that you consider pregnant women, infants and children disease as well?

HIV Among Pregnant Women, Infants, and Children

HIV transmission from mother to child during pregnancy, labor and delivery, or breastfeeding is known as perinatal transmission and is the most common route of HIV infection in children. When HIV is diagnosed before or during pregnancy, perinatal transmission can be reduced to less than 1% if appropriate medical treatment is given, the virus becomes undetectable, and breastfeeding is avoided. Since the mid-1990s, HIV testing and preventive interventions have resulted in more than a 90% decline in the number of children perinatally infected with HIV in the United States.

CDC - HIV Among Pregnant Women Infants and Children - Pregnant Women Gender Risk

Wouldn't that also make being a pregnant woman 'worse than murder'...at least using your batshit logic?

You people are so stupid and clueless it's hilarious

Say the moron who brought the gay agenda front & center AGAIN

 

[kaz]

CDC Fact Sheet - Gay and Bisexual Men Gender Risk HIV AIDS

Remind me where I said that. You want to know my view, ask me, don't tell me what my view is

You said it right here, only a few days ago.

Q. For Small Government Adherents Page 7 US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

"Eliminate unconstitutional programs and we're good. Social security, medicare, the department of education, HHS, agriculture, energy, HUD, labor."

Now shut up and stop being a fucking asshole.

Where is the CDC in that list?

The CDC is an agency of HHS.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.

Now apologize, bitch.

HHS is a huge agency, that I want to get rid of it implies that I want to eliminate every single function that it performs is a ridiculous hyperbole.

Do you notice I said at the beginning if you just ask me without being a dick I'd answer? Yet you are still working your ass off to prove you are a dick

Wow @ that spin ^^^

You actually want to stand behind that you read what I said as "spin?" That's what you want someone reading your post to think is your mental capacity?

 

[Syriusly]

Could you please link to the CDC defining homosexuality as a disease?

CDC Fact Sheet - Gay and Bisexual Men Gender Risk HIV AIDS

Just a reminder that Kaz is willing to outright lie whenever it suits him- or amuses him- so take into consideration when reading any of his posts.

 

[kaz]

Say the moron who brought the gay agenda front & center AGAIN

Say the crotchety old far who won't not click on links you aren't interested in, you insist on repeatedly reading the thread and whining about it.

I don't give a shit what you give me permission to discuss, old man. Take your walker and go back in the house

 

[kaz]

Could you please link to the CDC defining homosexuality as a disease?

CDC Fact Sheet - Gay and Bisexual Men Gender Risk HIV AIDS

Just a reminder that Kaz is willing to outright lie whenever it suits him- or amuses him- so take into consideration when reading any of his posts.

Thanks, but I think the liberals have figured out I'm not liberal without your beware of the non-liberal sign

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Say the moron who brought the gay agenda front & center AGAIN

Say the crotchety old far who won't not click on links you aren't interested in, you insist on repeatedly reading the thread and whining about it.

I don't give a shit what you give me permission to discuss, old man. Take your walker and go back in the house

Derp

 

[NYcarbineer]

You have a long history of ranting about the unconstitutionality of federal agencies. A very common RWnut affliction on this board

Stopped reading here

2011 long enough history-wise?

Congress s First Power Demolishes Tea Party s Constitutional Principle Page 2 US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

 

[Syriusly]

Kaz...you're just too good at the anti gay thing. Maybe it's the insistence upon using the f word for gay man. Are you as blasé with the n-word?

If you believe that, then you're not very observant about liberals. They do that to all non-liberals. If you believe in liberal ideology, that's fine, but you should be honest about who you are in bed with. So to speak...

What does your unnecessary use of the f word for gay men have to do with liberals?

Do you blame your constipation on liberals?

The phrase "the f word" is yet another lame liberal attempt to equate gays with blacks. Neither are not remotely the same, gays and blacks or "the f word" and "the n word."

I wasn't equating blacks with gays...I was equating anti gay bigots with racists ones.

Fair enough on the blacks and gays as a group, but you're still trying to manufacture a gay equivalent to "the n word" and there isn't one

Oh sure there is- and we all know them- k*ke for Jews- c*nt for women- n*ggers for blacks- f*ggot for homosexuals.

People uses these words for the same reasons- the reason some white racist calls a black a n*gger is exactly the same reason why some bigot calls a homosexual a f*ggot or why some anti-semite calls a Jew a k*ke.

 

[kaz]

Say the moron who brought the gay agenda front & center AGAIN

Say the crotchety old far who won't not click on links you aren't interested in, you insist on repeatedly reading the thread and whining about it.

I don't give a shit what you give me permission to discuss, old man. Take your walker and go back in the house

Derp

The derp is the senile old geezer who keeps telling us what we can discuss.

If you aren't interested in a discussion, DON'T CLICK ON THE LINK

In what possible way was my thread title misleading to you?

 

[Syriusly]

Could you please link to the CDC defining homosexuality as a disease?

CDC Fact Sheet - Gay and Bisexual Men Gender Risk HIV AIDS

And then remind us that you don't believe the existence of the CDC is constitutional.

Remind me where I said that. You want to know my view, ask me, don't tell me what my view is

Link doesnt show the cdc defining homosexuality as a disease, dunderhead.

Sure it does. It's the "CDC," the "Center for Disease[/u] Control and so they study diseases. They study gays, so they are saying gays are a disease. And in that link they are saying HIV is a gay disease, it's a disease of the diseased. Get it now?

I get that, quite clearly, only a moron could post what you just posted and actually believe the shit.

Only a moron would actually believe I believe that shit after reading my other posts. I can't take you seriously, you and NYCarbineer are just too stupid to have normal dialog with

Like I said- Kaz is willing to lie in order to amuse himself.

Take that into consideration when reading any post he makes.

 

[G.T.]

You said it right here, only a few days ago.

Q. For Small Government Adherents Page 7 US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

"Eliminate unconstitutional programs and we're good. Social security, medicare, the department of education, HHS, agriculture, energy, HUD, labor."

Now shut up and stop being a fucking asshole.

Where is the CDC in that list?

The CDC is an agency of HHS.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.

Now apologize, bitch.

HHS is a huge agency, that I want to get rid of it implies that I want to eliminate every single function that it performs is a ridiculous hyperbole.

Do you notice I said at the beginning if you just ask me without being a dick I'd answer? Yet you are still working your ass off to prove you are a dick

Wow @ that spin ^^^

You actually want to stand behind that you read what I said as "spin?" That's what you want someone reading your post to think is your mental capacity?

It stands independent of my analysis as pussified, lame assed spin.