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The sun rises.
Leaves grow on trees.
Rabbi has superior debate skills and knowledge.
He debates people like you all the time, how do you expect him to get better if he keeps playing with Head Start students?
The problem with putting the "consumer" in charge is that you mean only the consumer who can afford them.
Yes. We want consumers to have what they can't afford! That's the socialist way!
If the market controlled agriculture, farms would lie fallow when they couldn't sell their crops. this is EXACTLY what occurred during the Great Depression, where dairy farmers dumped hundreds of gallons of milk because no one had the money to buy it.
In fact, if as much as you guys whine about "Socialism", agriculture is pretty much entirely socialist in this country, and it works.
I think Laura Ingram got it right the other day, since 2000, what the hell has the gop establishment done right in the grand scheme of things? They went along to get along, after dole (96), bush, McCain Romney, wtf are we?
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ANd things got worse after FDR instituted price supports. Prices couldn't find a bottom. Had FDR just left it alone eventually the market would clear and prices would rise back and farmers would produce more.
This is basic Econ 101, first day supply and demand stuff. Of course if you left school after 9th grade like you Joe you didnt get any of this.
Conservatives are fighting motivated by fear: fear of diversity, change, and expressions of individual liberty, the fear shared by all reactionaries as a society becomes more sophisticated, enlightened, and inclusive; they fear the common-sense pragmatism most Americans today advocate which rejects blind adherence to failed conservative political and fiscal dogma.
The willingness of House republicans, for example, to engage in pointless brinksmanship is the manifestation typical of the desperate reactionary coming to the realization that the change he unjustifiably and irrationally fears is inevitable.
And the motivation is also a consequence of conservative anger at a specific democratic administration, opposition to a specific program, and disappointment over a single electoral defeat this is indeed very much partisan as well.
Conservatives want less government and more freedom, you want a government that protects you from making the wrong choice, and we are motivated by fear.
Good delusional logic.
Speaking of delusional.....
You say you want less government and more freedom but that is laughable. First of all you you are NOT "conservatives". You are classic "Neo-Conservatives".
You preach smaller government and more freedom but then turn around and say you want government to tell women and their doctors what to do with their bodies, tell two people they cannot marry, tell doctors how they treat patients who are brain dead, tell people they cannot use marijuana to treat cancer symptoms and tell people they cannot die with dignity.
Face it. You're a liar. You REALLY don't want less government. You want a government that tells people how to live their private lives.
Shame on you.
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The problem with putting the "consumer" in charge is that you mean only the consumer who can afford them.
Yes. We want consumers to have what they can't afford! That's the socialist way!
If the market controlled agriculture, farms would lie fallow when they couldn't sell their crops. this is EXACTLY what occurred during the Great Depression, where dairy farmers dumped hundreds of gallons of milk because no one had the money to buy it.
In fact, if as much as you guys whine about "Socialism", agriculture is pretty much entirely socialist in this country, and it works.
If the market controlled agriculture, farms would lie fallow when they couldn't sell their crops. this is EXACTLY what occurred during the Great Depression, where dairy farmers dumped hundreds of gallons of milk because no one had the money to buy it.
In fact, if as much as you guys whine about "Socialism", agriculture is pretty much entirely socialist in this country, and it works.
You know the FDR Depression ended 70 years ago.
Yes, I do. And I know we haven't had another one like it (although 2008 was close) because we kept his reforms in place.
It's kind of like saying, "People kept stealing my shit until I started locking my door!"
Locking your door is still a good idea even if no one has stolen your shit in a while.
And you see, guy, Republicans USED to get this. Eisenhower, Nixon, Ford, Reagan, all realized FDR was right about the role of government and kept the government doing the things it needed to do.
Until the Teabaggers and LiberTards took over, anyway.
What cons mean by "we want more freedom" is that they want the freedom to perform forced ultrasounds on women.
They want more freedom for themselves always, never anyone else.
Ironic then that they should be the ones who always accuse the other side of wanting to put government in the doctor's office.
Cons are great at that; accusing everyone else of the shit they instigate and do all by themselves.
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ANd things got worse after FDR instituted price supports. Prices couldn't find a bottom. Had FDR just left it alone eventually the market would clear and prices would rise back and farmers would produce more.
This is basic Econ 101, first day supply and demand stuff. Of course if you left school after 9th grade like you Joe you didnt get any of this.
Guy, after 2008, and everything you said was proven wrong, you don't get to talk about economics.
If FDR hadn't taken action to keep the farms running, we'd have had food riots and probably some form of fascism, which is pretty much how the REST of the world dealt with the Great Depression.
Why the right fights
Conservatives are fighting motivated by fear: fear of diversity, change, and expressions of individual liberty, the fear shared by all reactionaries as a society becomes more sophisticated, enlightened, and inclusive; they fear the common-sense pragmatism most Americans today advocate which rejects blind adherence to failed conservative political and fiscal dogma.So what youre seeing motivating the House Intransigents today, whats driving their willingness to engage in probably-pointless brinksmanship, is not just anger at a specific Democratic administration, or opposition to a specific program, or disappointment over a single electoral defeat. Rather, its a revolt against the long term pattern Ive just described: Against what these conservatives, and many on the right, see as forty years of failure, in which first Reagan and then Gingrich and now the Tea Party wave have all failed to deliver on the promise of an actual right-wing answer to the big left-wing victories of the 1930s and 1960s and now, with Obamacare, of Obamas first two years as well.
The willingness of House republicans, for example, to engage in pointless brinksmanship is the manifestation typical of the desperate reactionary coming to the realization that the change he unjustifiably and irrationally fears is inevitable.
And the motivation is also a consequence of conservative anger at a specific democratic administration, opposition to a specific program, and disappointment over a single electoral defeat this is indeed very much partisan as well.
Conservatives want less government and more freedom, you want a government that protects you from making the wrong choice, and we are motivated by fear.
Good delusional logic.
Conservatives are fighting motivated by fear: fear of diversity, change, and expressions of individual liberty, the fear shared by all reactionaries as a society becomes more sophisticated, enlightened, and inclusive; they fear the common-sense pragmatism most Americans today advocate which rejects blind adherence to failed conservative political and fiscal dogma.
The willingness of House republicans, for example, to engage in pointless brinksmanship is the manifestation typical of the desperate reactionary coming to the realization that the change he unjustifiably and irrationally fears is inevitable.
And the motivation is also a consequence of conservative anger at a specific democratic administration, opposition to a specific program, and disappointment over a single electoral defeat this is indeed very much partisan as well.
Conservatives want less government and more freedom, you want a government that protects you from making the wrong choice, and we are motivated by fear.
Good delusional logic.
Hey, we got less government right now. How's that working out? Lots of pissed off people from what I hear.
And the "freedom" thing. I hear that quite a bit. What is it that you are not "free" to do now and what are the things you would do, if you were more "free"?
We need to take Conservative principles and couple them with 21st century technology
We don't need Federal Departments to control corn production or set the price of milk, that's Old School DemoSoviet Thought.
Individual freedom couple with nearly unlimited access to information will put the consumer back in charge
Conservatives are fighting motivated by fear: fear of diversity, change, and expressions of individual liberty, the fear shared by all reactionaries as a society becomes more sophisticated, enlightened, and inclusive; they fear the common-sense pragmatism most Americans today advocate which rejects blind adherence to failed conservative political and fiscal dogma.
The willingness of House republicans, for example, to engage in pointless brinksmanship is the manifestation typical of the desperate reactionary coming to the realization that the change he unjustifiably and irrationally fears is inevitable.
And the motivation is also a consequence of conservative anger at a specific democratic administration, opposition to a specific program, and disappointment over a single electoral defeat this is indeed very much partisan as well.
Conservatives want less government and more freedom, you want a government that protects you from making the wrong choice, and we are motivated by fear.
Good delusional logic.
Speaking of delusional.....
You say you want less government and more freedom but that is laughable. First of all you you are NOT "conservatives". You are classic "Neo-Conservatives".
You preach smaller government and more freedom but then turn around and say you want government to tell women and their doctors what to do with their bodies, tell two people they cannot marry, tell doctors how they treat patients who are brain dead, tell people they cannot use marijuana to treat cancer symptoms and tell people they cannot die with dignity.
Face it. You're a liar. You REALLY don't want less government. You want a government that tells people how to live their private lives.
Shame on you.
.
Conservatives want less government and more freedom, you want a government that protects you from making the wrong choice, and we are motivated by fear.
Good delusional logic.
Speaking of delusional.....
You say you want less government and more freedom but that is laughable. First of all you you are NOT "conservatives". You are classic "Neo-Conservatives".
You preach smaller government and more freedom but then turn around and say you want government to tell women and their doctors what to do with their bodies, tell two people they cannot marry, tell doctors how they treat patients who are brain dead, tell people they cannot use marijuana to treat cancer symptoms and tell people they cannot die with dignity.
Face it. You're a liar. You REALLY don't want less government. You want a government that tells people how to live their private lives.
Shame on you.
.
Right, unlike what we have now, who tells you what light bulbs you can buy or how your shitter has to operate and how your appliances have to be designed? Come on commie tell me how this is better.
Yes. We want consumers to have what they can't afford! That's the socialist way!
If the market controlled agriculture, farms would lie fallow when they couldn't sell their crops. this is EXACTLY what occurred during the Great Depression, where dairy farmers dumped hundreds of gallons of milk because no one had the money to buy it.
In fact, if as much as you guys whine about "Socialism", agriculture is pretty much entirely socialist in this country, and it works.
Now the government buys it up to make sure no farmer ever has to sell it for less than a price set in the 1930s, which makes it more expensive for everyone, especially poor people. Somehow you think that is better.
Higher prices work for you, as long as they are caused by the government.
