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You apparently don't understand the 1st and 2nd Amendments to the COTUS.I can't wait until they take your guns away!
The Supreme court has ruled freedom of speech has limits. You can't yell fire (a dangerous lie) in a crowded movie theater, it is dangerous. The President of the US can't tell a grand lie about election fraud that didn't happen. You can not do that, it is very dangerous. Look at all the dumb fuckin retards that believe that lie. Trump incited an insurrection because of that lie, and Mitch McConnell agrees.
You act like Twitter and these other sites just canceled republican voices for no reason?????? They got canceled because they are promoting extremely dangerous lies. Lies that incited an insurrection. Conservatives have lost their 1st amendment right because they have a truth problem. That is the premise of this thread. All politicians lie, but Trump and the GOP have taken lying to another level, and those lies incited an insurrection. Therefore, bye bye social media until you can act like a mature grown up, which you people can't do...
On the 1st.... I am not religious, but I believe it is a fundamental right of all people to practice their religion as they wish, and the government shall have no say, including COVID or any other pandemic.
The First Amendment (1A) is not only about that, of course. It's about protecting controversial and offensive speech. There is never a need to use the 1A to allow speech that propels the official government narrative. The 1A allows speech about whatever, as long as it is not immediately harmful, and limits the gov't power with regard to censoring free expression.
Yelling fire in a crowded theater is quite a bit different from posting information about hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) or mask effectiveness, or potential voter fraud (for example). The former creates an emergency. The latter is just an alternative viewpoint, which people can research themselves with no urgency nor immediate threat to life and limb.
It's really sad when I see my fellow Americans, including you apparently, endorsing censorship. I would not endorse the same standards applying to you. The only way people can learn anything is by listening to alternative viewpoints and critically reviewing them. You can't learn anything from someone who believes the exact same thing as you, and the "official truth" seems to be incorrect most of the time lately.
Your stance is intolerant, irrational, and anti-American. I fully endorse your right to say what you want, even if I think it is false. You don't support mine?
Regarding the insurrection that you think Trump incited, you apparently did not watch his defense present on the 4th day. Sorry, it's three hours long but you can watch on 1.75X speed.
At 39:00, Trump's defense presents evidence that the house managers doctored evidence.
At 52:00, there is the viral "fight part," showing never-ending videos of Dems doing what they falsely accused Trump of doing. It continues for about 13 minutes with countless examples...
Here is your big problem. Trump used extremely dangerous lies to incite this insurrection and it is a far different situation then anything Dems have done. Or standard lie telling (which is protected) for that matter
Yelling fire in a crowded movie theater is dangerous and telling people your vote was stolen, when that is a total lie, is also very dangerous. The insurrection was incited because trump repeated the lie that their vote was stolen.
Look at this board, look at all the dumb fucks on here that still believe this total lie. Look at how stupid Ray is, he believes this lie despite all the evidence disproving the election fraud lie. That is very dangerous. The Supreme court has ruled and there is a limit to free speech particularly when it is dangerous lies that cause people to riot- which it did... Trump's lies caused the riot.
On top of that Trump knew that the rioters were in the Capitol going crazy and it is documented that Kevin McCarthy told Trump his supporters were in the Capitol and Trump did nothing. This is further proof of Trump's guilt that you chose to ignore, because it is devastating. There is no excuse or explanation for this. Trump never tried to stop his rioting supporters even though he knew they were in the Capitol. The evidence is overwhelming, you just don't like it so you ignore it.
Basically you also prove the point of my thread. You need to live these lies because the truth is too harsh for you to accept. Trump incited an insurrection based on lies, you can not accept that. George Bush was a total failure, with failed results. Trump was a total failure, with failed results. Both Trump and Bush left office in total disgrace with record low approval ratings and the country in ruin and crisis. You can't accept this reality, but this happened. Repeat, this happened.
These facts are too hard for you to accept. You can't accept them. You need Trump's lies in order to ignore the failure of the GOP so you can keep drinking the koolaid, like a sheep.
Oh, but Democrats telling the American people repeatedly for 4 years that Russian interference helped Trump steal the election is okay. You jackals are mentally ill.