Why Vote for Trump: Top Three Reasons...

emilynghiem

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This just in.
I was looking for a third reason to argue why voting for Trump was better than not.
I think I found it today.

3. First reason I found was that the choice of Supreme Court Justice would come from a list of more conservative Constitutionalists to balance the liberal bias. Even though I disagree with EITHER a left or right bias, and that to be Constitutional, no ruling should favor beliefs on either side, but should REJECT any law or dispute that belongs to the state or people; still, we need a Constitutionalist who will vote no to any further abuses of govt especially courts to decide private matters especially involving personal beliefs.

So that was the best reason given to me so far.

2. Secondly, since Clinton is so connected with party and legal interests that can buy their way out of being held accountable to the public and taxpayers, this is dangerous to put any more such people into office who put politics and party before Constitutional duty to public and office.

Trump is not a lawyer, not a friend to either party. Where he is not a friend to the Constitution either, the Republicans and Constitutionalists who are will smash his arguments and/or kick him out of office and he can't play around like Clinton and the Democrats do buying out the legal system.

The Clintons and the Obamas of the Democratic Party have shown they can even smash their own constituents for political benefit, and nobody can stop them because they have bought out the favor of the legal lobbies, corporate lobbies, and media that profits off these games and exploitation.

Trump does not have those connections, so he can be held to the Constitution by opponents while Clinton won't even work with Sanders and Blacks demanding accountability to the voter base from Democrat leadership.

1. And the third reason, to finish the list,
just came out today:

Ruth Bader Ginsburg: ‘I can’t imagine what the country would be’ under President Trump

Ginsburg threatened to move to New Zealand if Trump got elected President.

Yay! My list is finished.

No matter how awful Trump is with sticking his feet in his mouth, saying things that can't possibly be justified by Constitutional means, that's why he can be held in check by conservatives and Constitutionalists who do enforce the laws.

People who don't want to do the work it takes to check Trump or govt can just move out of the way, or totally out of the country.

Because no matter who we elect, it is going to take work to keep them and govt in check.

If you want to be lazy and just let the legal and corporate lobbies decide who is going to get investigated and who is going to be let off the hook, vote for Clinton and more lawyers buying out the legal, legislative and media.

That's more work for the rest of us trying to clean up the messes made by corporate politics.

Trump knows the game, but he doesn't have the connections and dirt on him that the other people do running the game. So Trump can get his rump kicked if he steps out of line. And obviously the Republicans are happy to do so!
 
You're suggesting we should all emigrate?

What if New Zealand puts up a wall, and makes us pay for it? If we're already emigrated, are we off the hook for the bill?
 
still, we need a Constitutionalist who will vote no to any further abuses of govt especially courts to decide private matters especially involving personal beliefs.

Rump is clearly not a "Constitutionalist". He's prolly the most anti-Constitutional candidate we've ever had in any of our lifetimes.
 
still, we need a Constitutionalist who will vote no to any further abuses of govt especially courts to decide private matters especially involving personal beliefs.

Rump is clearly not a "Constitutionalist". He's prolly the most anti-Constitutional candidate we've ever had in any of our lifetimes.

1. I was referring to the Justices we need to have on the Court, and why we need more Constitutionalists who will not tolerate govt or courts being abused to make decisions on matters involving "conflicting beliefs" that belong to people or states to resolve, not for govt to mandate especially not from the bench.

Is that more clear? Even if Trump is not a Constitutionalist, if you look at his list of potential appointees for JUSTICES, and THAT's where we need Constitutionalists to stop courts from being abused to mandate or endorse faith based biased policies instead of "kicking them back" to legislatures, states or people to decide faith based matters by individual choice and/or consensus.

Pogo

2. My point was even though Trump is no Constitutionalist, he can be more directly checked and stopped by enforcing the Constitution. But the same CANNOT be said for people like the Clintons or Obamas or other Democrats who put party and corporate legal politics above Constitutional law and checks on govt.

Because Trump does NOT have the legal connections, corporate, party and media connections that politicians like the Clintons have, then we have a direct check against people like Trump in enforcing the Constitution even if he doesn't follow that directly himself. The people who do can enforce the Constitution to stop people like Trump, but can't stop people like the Clintons who abuse corporate and legal connections to bypass Constitutional laws check and balances.
 
You're suggesting we should all emigrate?

What if New Zealand puts up a wall, and makes us pay for it? If we're already emigrated, are we off the hook for the bill?

Dear Pogo people have the natural right to assemble in peace and security as needed to exercise and defend equal rights and beliefs.

Wherever you need to go, to exercise your right to be secure in your houses persons and effects, that's where people end up anyway.

Instead of running away, I suggest setting up legal protections wherever you are, with whatever groups represent you that you are willing to invest your labor, time and resources into developing as your choice of affiliation and management.

When it comes to defending your rights, it's the people directly around you that determine if your rights are going to be respected or violated. I suggest we all work with our local precincts, police and teachers unions, local businesses schools charities and govts, and local party officials per district, and set up systems to make sure we have representation as directly as possible, including conflict resolution and mediation services, and means of issuing complaints and redressing grievances.

If you have your own house in order, there is less chance of division getting exploited by a third party stepping in and taking control of telling both sides in a conflict what to do.

If we cannot trust federal govt not to fall to abuse by politics,
we should at least make sure we have a direct voice in local govt and clean up our own neighborhoods first of abuses or corruption that can affect us.
 
Here's a better idea Emily.

Instead of running away, doing this, doing that, etc etc etc ----- let's just not elect a fat self-infatuated asshole who's never held a job in his life to the most demanding job in the world. Problem solved.

I mean get a grip --- he's not even a nominee yet.
 
Here's a better idea Emily.

Instead of running away, doing this, doing that, etc etc etc ----- let's just not elect a fat self-infatuated asshole who's never held a job in his life to the most demanding job in the world. Problem solved.

I mean get a grip --- he's not even a nominee yet.

Dear Pogo If I had my way, I'd have the top candidates like Clinton and Trump, Sanders and Johnson, Cruz and the Tea Party, Greens and Libertarians all agree on a game plan, and agreed positions for ALL their chosen reps to have roles in govt working together instead of competing for the same offices.
 
still, we need a Constitutionalist who will vote no to any further abuses of govt especially courts to decide private matters especially involving personal beliefs.

Rump is clearly not a "Constitutionalist". He's prolly the most anti-Constitutional candidate we've ever had in any of our lifetimes.

People that call themselfs constitutionalist are probably the least democratic and least understanding of the real constitution. One could spend a life time studying law and case law and still be wrong by some hick that has a 5th grade education that calls themself a constitutional conservative. lol, lol, lol
 
Suggestion for President Trumps first 100 days:


Immediately build about 100,000 spring loaded doors.

Then no liberal will have to wait in line to be hit in the ass by one while on the way out.
 
counter post ..

add $12 trillion to the deficit over the next decade

deport 5% of the work force and start a recession

impose tariffs on imports, begin trade wars, raise taxes on American buyers.
 
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add $12 trillion to the deficit over the next decade

deport 5% of the work force and start a recession

impose tariffs on imports, begin trade wars, raise taxes on American buyers.

Dear Siete Why not start a new trend hiring lawyers to collect on behalf of taxpayers all the money we are owed for govt waste misspending and abuse; and charge the costs back to the wrongdoers. Why not credit taxpayers with reimbursements tracked through the federal reserve that could issue notes against these debts owed to us for unconstitutional abuses of our resources. Then use those credits to fund the govt reforms needed to correct these problems and manage sustainable solutions.

If programs don't work to fix the problems, then the people who proposed them pay back the loans invested, and we go fund some other proposed correction.

Why are we gambling on promises by politicians and parties using our tax money they don't have to pay back if they fail?

Why not set it up like business deals where we CHOOSE where to invest, where to donate or lend, so the best programs get rewarded with funding. The ones that are proven to work will attract support by free choice, instead of the mess we have now.
 
counter post ..

add $12 trillion to the deficit over the next decade

deport 5% of the work force and start a recession

impose tariffs on imports, begin trade wars, raise taxes on American buyers.

Dear Siete Why not start a new trend hiring lawyers to collect on behalf of taxpayers all the money we are owed for govt waste misspending and abuse; and charge the costs back to the wrongdoers. Why not credit taxpayers with reimbursements tracked through the federal reserve that could issue notes against these debts owed to us for unconstitutional abuses of our resources. Then use those credits to fund the govt reforms needed to correct these problems and manage sustainable solutions.

If programs don't work to fix the problems, then the people who proposed them pay back the loans invested, and we go fund some other proposed correction.

Why are we gambling on promises by politicians and parties using our tax money they don't have to pay back if they fail?

Why not set it up like business deals where we CHOOSE where to invest, where to donate or lend, so the best programs get rewarded with funding. The ones that are proven to work will attract support by free choice, instead of the mess we have now.


Why not start a new trend hiring lawyers to collect on behalf of taxpayers


HIRE Lawyers? so they can make/collect a percentage ?


why not elect a politician that we pay $172K a year to do his job?
 
counter post ..

add $12 trillion to the deficit over the next decade

deport 5% of the work force and start a recession

impose tariffs on imports, begin trade wars, raise taxes on American buyers.

Dear Siete Why not start a new trend hiring lawyers to collect on behalf of taxpayers all the money we are owed for govt waste misspending and abuse; and charge the costs back to the wrongdoers. Why not credit taxpayers with reimbursements tracked through the federal reserve that could issue notes against these debts owed to us for unconstitutional abuses of our resources. Then use those credits to fund the govt reforms needed to correct these problems and manage sustainable solutions.

If programs don't work to fix the problems, then the people who proposed them pay back the loans invested, and we go fund some other proposed correction.

Why are we gambling on promises by politicians and parties using our tax money they don't have to pay back if they fail?

Why not set it up like business deals where we CHOOSE where to invest, where to donate or lend, so the best programs get rewarded with funding. The ones that are proven to work will attract support by free choice, instead of the mess we have now.


Why not start a new trend hiring lawyers to collect on behalf of taxpayers


HIRE Lawyers? so they can make/collect a percentage ?


why not elect a politician that we pay $172K a year to do his job?

Dear Siete
1. the lawyers collect a percentage commission paid by the wrongdoers that incurred the debt. The less damage they incur, the less they have to pay in restitution, including the legal fees and interest on the "loan" until taxpayers are paid back. The point is to charge the wrongdoers for the cost, not the taxpayers who didn't commit those crimes or abuses.

2. why not hire two people for each position and divide their salary in half. They both do part of the work, and check each other especially if they come from competing parties, making decisions by consensus.

They work part time jobs as before and live off that, and work part time for govt sharing the job with the other top candidate who represents people they don't. So this covers more people and gets more work done by sharing it, such as dividing the internal and external responsibilities instead of one person trying to do it all.
 
still, we need a Constitutionalist who will vote no to any further abuses of govt especially courts to decide private matters especially involving personal beliefs.

Rump is clearly not a "Constitutionalist". He's prolly the most anti-Constitutional candidate we've ever had in any of our lifetimes.
You should see this guy idiots voted in called Obama.....
 

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