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Oh fuck you & your "define assault rifle" bullshit.Define "assault type rifles" Exactly what do you propose to ban (Realizing that bad guys will get whayever gun they choose on the street)Limited gun control. Ban the assault type rifles now.
However many shooters there are, you put your gun away after they are dead or disabled. Rarely in these crazy cases are there more than 1 shooter though.So, you are so sure that you had only one shooter that you put your gun away? Not smart. Witnesses reported seeing 3 shooters.
1. When I shop in Walmart 6 AM - 10 Am it's not a tight space (although some aisles are cluttered with boxes and pallets) After 10 AM Walmart get crowded with lots of shopping carts.The AK is a carbine more than a long rifle. It is easier to shoot accurately unless you are in tight spaces. A Walmart is not a tight space.
Oh, and most pistols will lock open when the last round is fired. Unlike what the movies show, you don't pull the slide after inserting a new mag. You just release it with your thumb.
2. I don't know what gun you use. My Keltec .380 requires a slide pull, to load a round into the chamber. Same with my Keltec 9MM.
They target areas where lots of people will be there for a purpose other than guns. Schools with armed guards were attacked. Dayton shooter had plenty pf police in the vicinity.What "excuse" ? And you're saying that announcing a gunfree zone is not an encouragement to a mass shooter ? If you are, you couldn't be more wrong. It's the #1 facilitation for mass shooters.This gun free zone excuse is wrong.
Maybe you should consider the weapon used in Dayton allowed 9 people to be killed in under 30 seconds.
However many shooters there are, you put your gun away after they are dead or disabled. Rarely in these crazy cases are there more than 1 shooter though.So, you are so sure that you had only one shooter that you put your gun away? Not smart. Witnesses reported seeing 3 shooters.
Your use of the word "we" is faulty, since you obviously have no idea what the definition of an "assault type rifle" (your words, not mine) is. You want to ban something, and you don't even know WHAT you're banning. Maybe you should stick to knitting. This thread might be out of your league.Oh fuck you & your "define assault rifle" bullshit.
You sassdfuicks think you are gun experts? Really?
We had an assault rifle ban, they were defined there./ We all know what kind of guns we are talking about so shove this stupid asinine argument up your ass.
You do realize that when they attempt to buy or carry a banned gun, they can be arrested before a shot is fired???
The El Paso Walmart shooter killed 20 people (so far) and wounded 26 more. He may well have fired some shots missing people also. It's pretty fair to say this nut fired at least 50 shots, and very possibly well more than that.
It takes quite some time to fire that many shots individually, as this guy did, walking aisle to aisle, through the store. If there had been an armed security guard, or any armed citizen with a CCW license, this guy could have (and should have) been stopped cold after the first 2 or 3 shots.
As someone who has a CCW license, and is armed 99% of the time, when I'm walking around outside, it is amazing to me that there could have been that many people walking around unarmed and defenseless. Why? Don't they know something like this could happen at any time ?
In contrast, in 2002, a Muslim terrorist (Hesham Mohamed Hadayet) walked into Los Angeles Airport (LAX) armed with 2 handguns, plus magazines loaded with dozens of bullets. He shot and killed 2 people, and wounded 4. The airport was filled with people. The terrorist was shot dead right on the spot, by a security guard who was armed and ready to deal. Without that good guy with a gun, the airport would have been a bloodbath, just like this WalMart, and probably even worse.
This ARMED DEFENSE is what should have been the case in El Paso. How this guy could pull off what he did without getting shot, by a guard or CCW carrying citizen is mind boggling.
2002 Los Angeles International Airport shooting - Wikipedia
We The People are the Militia.WOW THERE YOU GO RED HERRING.answer the god damn question
Have you ever heard of shall not be infringed?
Sure have, are they infringing on your rights if they stop you from purchasing a LAW? Why do you register your vehicles? If you have a RIGHT to carry why bother with getting a Concealed to carry permit.
Why do I register my vehicle because it's not a right to own and drive a vehicle on public roads
Why do I have a concealed carry? because I'll obey laws if they are reasonable
the right to bear arms. The right to be armed. Here is a .22 single shit rifle,, you are now armed. Amendment satisfied.
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
using the complete sentence the amendment has nothing to do private gun ownership in the US unless your in the Militia and you have been called on to support the military
and there lies the problem when people pick and choose words that support their position and ignore anything else even when it is not part of the sentence.
Politics of the government either allows you have private guns or they don't
The SCOTUS has consistently ruled that the 2nd amendment is an individual right, unconnected with service in the military or in a militia.
Why we had 17 mass shootings during the Clinton assault weapon banLimited gun control. Ban the assault type rifles now.WOW THERE YOU GO RED HERRING.Sure have, are they infringing on your rights if they stop you from purchasing a LAW? Why do you register your vehicles? If you have a RIGHT to carry why bother with getting a Concealed to carry permit.
Why do I register my vehicle because it's not a right to own and drive a vehicle on public roads
Why do I have a concealed carry? because I'll obey laws if they are reasonable
the right to bear arms. The right to be armed. Here is a .22 single shit rifle,, you are now armed. Amendment satisfied.
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
using the complete sentence the amendment has nothing to do private gun ownership in the US unless your in the Militia and you have been called on to support the military
and there lies the problem when people pick and choose words that support their position and ignore anything else even when it is not part of the sentence.
Politics of the government either allows you have private guns or they don't
SCOTUS disagrees.
The Supreme Court Has Strengthened Gun Rights and Limited Gun Control - NYTimes.com
We The People are the Militia.WOW THERE YOU GO RED HERRING.Sure have, are they infringing on your rights if they stop you from purchasing a LAW? Why do you register your vehicles? If you have a RIGHT to carry why bother with getting a Concealed to carry permit.
Why do I register my vehicle because it's not a right to own and drive a vehicle on public roads
Why do I have a concealed carry? because I'll obey laws if they are reasonable
the right to bear arms. The right to be armed. Here is a .22 single shit rifle,, you are now armed. Amendment satisfied.
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
using the complete sentence the amendment has nothing to do private gun ownership in the US unless your in the Militia and you have been called on to support the military
and there lies the problem when people pick and choose words that support their position and ignore anything else even when it is not part of the sentence.
Politics of the government either allows you have private guns or they don't
The SCOTUS has consistently ruled that the 2nd amendment is an individual right, unconnected with service in the military or in a militia.
The organized militia is what people consider the state guard. It doesn't have a need for a second amendment right.We The People are the Militia.WOW THERE YOU GO RED HERRING.
Why do I register my vehicle because it's not a right to own and drive a vehicle on public roads
Why do I have a concealed carry? because I'll obey laws if they are reasonable
the right to bear arms. The right to be armed. Here is a .22 single shit rifle,, you are now armed. Amendment satisfied.
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
using the complete sentence the amendment has nothing to do private gun ownership in the US unless your in the Militia and you have been called on to support the military
and there lies the problem when people pick and choose words that support their position and ignore anything else even when it is not part of the sentence.
Politics of the government either allows you have private guns or they don't
The SCOTUS has consistently ruled that the 2nd amendment is an individual right, unconnected with service in the military or in a militia.
My mistaje. I should have said "organized militia".
Yeah for some reason mass murderers just ignore signs.Evidently, it did not stop the shooter. lmao He went after what he was after, Mexicans shopping for their kids' school supplies and many were in the WalMart crossed over just to shop.No, I am saying that the mall the Wallmart was located in did not permit concealed carry handguns.
As limited by the Tenth Amendment.You're right, it's what the Gov't deems necessary.My right is not up to what you deem as acceptable
Nuclear weapons are tightly regulated by a completely separate system of laws.Really, so if you can afford it you can own a short range nuke if you like. Smfh.
Sure have, are they infringing on your rights if they stop you from purchasing a LAW? Why do you register your vehicles? If you have a RIGHT to carry why bother with getting a Concealed to carry permit.
Don't citizens have a right to determine who their "militia" is?The organized militia is what people consider the state guard. It doesn't have a need for a second amendment right.We The People are the Militia.the right to bear arms. The right to be armed. Here is a .22 single shit rifle,, you are now armed. Amendment satisfied.
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
using the complete sentence the amendment has nothing to do private gun ownership in the US unless your in the Militia and you have been called on to support the military
and there lies the problem when people pick and choose words that support their position and ignore anything else even when it is not part of the sentence.
Politics of the government either allows you have private guns or they don't
The SCOTUS has consistently ruled that the 2nd amendment is an individual right, unconnected with service in the military or in a militia.
My mistaje. I should have said "organized militia".
But you say the 2nd Amendment give the right to own any weapon. Are you finally admitting you don't?Nuclear weapons are tightly regulated by a completely separate system of laws.Really, so if you can afford it you can own a short range nuke if you like. Smfh.
Your analogy is lame.
You're not getting this, and I trust a lot of others aren't either. OF COURSE, it didn't stop the shooter. Quite the contrary, it was an INVITATION to the shooter to come in and shoot. A big green light, telling him that everyone in the mall will be UNARMED EXCEPT HIM.Evidently, it did not stop the shooter. lmao He went after what he was after, Mexicans shopping for their kids' school supplies and many were in the WalMart crossed over just to shop.
THIS is why we need to abolish gun free zones, and that's what the president and everyone in this thread should be talking about.
With respect to background checks, while I was hearing Trump talking about them on the radio just a few minutes ago, ABC News was carrying a special report with George Stephanopolous, saying that the president said nothing about background checks.
But background checks are one of the biggest red herrings ever in American politics. When a nutjob shooter is determined enough to go shoot up a mall, you can bet he'll be determined enough to obtain the guns he wants, no matter what the stores are doing. Stores aren't the only ones who sell guns.
Background checks are a legitimate issue, and they should exist (as 2 Republicans sponsored a bill for them ,which was defeated by Democrats), but the far bigger issue is gun free zones, where almost all the mass shootings are occuring.
Why we had 17 mass shootings during the Clinton assault weapon banLimited gun control. Ban the assault type rifles now.WOW THERE YOU GO RED HERRING.
Why do I register my vehicle because it's not a right to own and drive a vehicle on public roads
Why do I have a concealed carry? because I'll obey laws if they are reasonable
the right to bear arms. The right to be armed. Here is a .22 single shit rifle,, you are now armed. Amendment satisfied.
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
using the complete sentence the amendment has nothing to do private gun ownership in the US unless your in the Militia and you have been called on to support the military
and there lies the problem when people pick and choose words that support their position and ignore anything else even when it is not part of the sentence.
Politics of the government either allows you have private guns or they don't
SCOTUS disagrees.
The Supreme Court Has Strengthened Gun Rights and Limited Gun Control - NYTimes.com
And if by chance of a merical hoe would you stop people from making AR's and AK's?
