Why we don't want voter ID

[Delta4Embassy]

Republicans said this would never happen

Alabama Demands Voter ID--Then Closes Driver's License Offices In Black Counties

What happens when a state with a tough voter ID law suddenly makes it much harder for minorities to get driver's licenses? We are about to find out in Alabama.
Facing a budget crisis, Alabama has shuttered 31 driver's license offices, many of them in counties with a high proportion of black residents. Coming after the state recently put into effect a tougher voter ID law, the closures will cut off access -- particularly for minorities -- to one of the few types of IDs accepted.
According to a tally by AL.com columnist John Archibald, eight of the 10 Alabama counties with the highest percentage of non-white registered voters saw their driver's license offices closed.
"Every single county in which blacks make up more than 75 percent of registered voters will see their driver license office closed. Every one," Archibald wrote.
Archibald also noted that many of the counties where offices were closed also leaned Democrat.
"But maybe it's not racial at all, right? Maybe it's just political. And let's face it, it may not be either." he wrote. "But no matter the intent, the consequence is the same."

Anyone bother doing their due dilligence to find out if those closed offices were budget-cut related and not post hoc ergo propter hoc?

 

[Zoom-boing]

My son is 22, special needs, does not (and will never) drive. We took him to the dmv and he got a state id. It wasn't a big deal, it didn't take long, it wasn't expensive. It was a bad picture of him though.

 

[Misty]

My son is 22, special needs, does not (and will never) drive. We took him to the dmv and he got a state id. It wasn't a big deal, it didn't take long, it wasn't expensive. It was a bad picture of him though.

I have a special needs brother same thing. State ID no big deal bad picture.

 

[Nosmo King]

Voter ID is a solution to a problem that does not exist. Just another example of Conservative policies aimed squarely at minorities for repression's sake.

Not true. It is already required in some states and is working to prevent voter fraud. The ID is also used to prevent other types of fraud as well. The only conclusion as to why the Democrats are opposed to voter id is that they are not opposed to voter fraud.

Look, voter ID is working in some states. That is a fact.

If voter fraud was a real problem I assure you that Democrats would be there with a workable solution. But voter fraud is not a prevalent problem in the United States. Voter ID laws seek to solve a problem that does not exist. Therefore, the only real reason to require voter IDs is to suppress the vote. It's purely political.

 

[Nosmo King]

24 things that require a photo ID

Below are just some of the examples of things you need to prove your identity for:

1. Alcohol

2. Cigarettes

3. Opening a bank account

4. Apply for food stamps

5. Apply for welfare

6. Apply for Medicaid/Social Security

7. Apply for unemployment or a job

8. Rent/buy a house, apply for a mortgage

9. Drive/buy/rent a car

10. Get on an airplane

11. Get married

12. Purchase a gun

13. Adopt a pet

14. Rent a hotel room

15. Apply for a hunting license

16. Apply for a fishing license

17. Buy a cell phone

18. Visit a casino

19. Pick up a prescription

20. Hold a rally or protest

21. Blood donations

22. Buy an "M" rated video game

23. Purchase nail polish at CVS

24. Purchase certain cold medicines

But not to vote?

How many of these things are rights?

 

[Obiwan]

Voter ID is a solution to a problem that does not exist. Just another example of Conservative policies aimed squarely at minorities for repression's sake.

Not true. It is already required in some states and is working to prevent voter fraud. The ID is also used to prevent other types of fraud as well. The only conclusion as to why the Democrats are opposed to voter id is that they are not opposed to voter fraud.

Look, voter ID is working in some states. That is a fact.

If voter fraud was a real problem I assure you that Democrats would be there with a workable solution. But voter fraud is not a prevalent problem in the United States. Voter ID laws seek to solve a problem that does not exist. Therefore, the only real reason to require voter IDs is to suppress the vote. It's purely political.

Voter Fraud Is Rampant, And Democrats Ignore It

But I'll play...

If there's not a voter fraud problem, then the Democrats obviously just want blacks to not have an ID, where they can be homeless and starve, since they can't rent a place to live, or get welfare or food stamps...

And they have to do without booze or cigarettes too...

Why do the racist Democrats hate blacks so much???

 

[Redfish]

Voter ID is a solution to a problem that does not exist. Just another example of Conservative policies aimed squarely at minorities for repression's sake.

Not true. It is already required in some states and is working to prevent voter fraud. The ID is also used to prevent other types of fraud as well. The only conclusion as to why the Democrats are opposed to voter id is that they are not opposed to voter fraud.

Look, voter ID is working in some states. That is a fact.

If voter fraud was a real problem I assure you that Democrats would be there with a workable solution. But voter fraud is not a prevalent problem in the United States. Voter ID laws seek to solve a problem that does not exist. Therefore, the only real reason to require voter IDs is to suppress the vote. It's purely political.

1 fraudulent vote is too many. In a close election, a few fraudulent votes could change the outcome. But you dems know that and thats why you oppose voter ID laws.

 

[Nosmo King]

Voter ID is a solution to a problem that does not exist. Just another example of Conservative policies aimed squarely at minorities for repression's sake.

Not true. It is already required in some states and is working to prevent voter fraud. The ID is also used to prevent other types of fraud as well. The only conclusion as to why the Democrats are opposed to voter id is that they are not opposed to voter fraud.

Look, voter ID is working in some states. That is a fact.

If voter fraud was a real problem I assure you that Democrats would be there with a workable solution. But voter fraud is not a prevalent problem in the United States. Voter ID laws seek to solve a problem that does not exist. Therefore, the only real reason to require voter IDs is to suppress the vote. It's purely political.

Voter Fraud Is Rampant, And Democrats Ignore It

But I'll play...

If there's not a voter fraud problem, then the Democrats obviously just want blacks to not have an ID, where they can be homeless and starve, since they can't rent a place to live, or get welfare or food stamps...

And they have to do without booze or cigarettes too...

Why do the racist Democrats hate blacks so much???

What kind of absent minded circular logic are you throwing on the wall in hopes it will stick? No one said there should be NO IDs! There should be no requirement for an ID when exercising your right to vote.

If you want to play, play sensibly or not at all.

 

[Nosmo King]

Voter ID is a solution to a problem that does not exist. Just another example of Conservative policies aimed squarely at minorities for repression's sake.

Not true. It is already required in some states and is working to prevent voter fraud. The ID is also used to prevent other types of fraud as well. The only conclusion as to why the Democrats are opposed to voter id is that they are not opposed to voter fraud.

Look, voter ID is working in some states. That is a fact.

If voter fraud was a real problem I assure you that Democrats would be there with a workable solution. But voter fraud is not a prevalent problem in the United States. Voter ID laws seek to solve a problem that does not exist. Therefore, the only real reason to require voter IDs is to suppress the vote. It's purely political.

1 fraudulent vote is too many. In a close election, a few fraudulent votes could change the outcome. But you dems know that and thats why you oppose voter ID laws.

That's not at all why 'we Dems' oppose voter ID. Had you been paying attention, you would know why.

Voter ID is voter suppression. There is not enough voter fraud to mandate a requirement that suppresses votes.

 

[Obiwan]

Voter ID is a solution to a problem that does not exist. Just another example of Conservative policies aimed squarely at minorities for repression's sake.

Not true. It is already required in some states and is working to prevent voter fraud. The ID is also used to prevent other types of fraud as well. The only conclusion as to why the Democrats are opposed to voter id is that they are not opposed to voter fraud.

Look, voter ID is working in some states. That is a fact.

If voter fraud was a real problem I assure you that Democrats would be there with a workable solution. But voter fraud is not a prevalent problem in the United States. Voter ID laws seek to solve a problem that does not exist. Therefore, the only real reason to require voter IDs is to suppress the vote. It's purely political.

Voter Fraud Is Rampant, And Democrats Ignore It

But I'll play...

If there's not a voter fraud problem, then the Democrats obviously just want blacks to not have an ID, where they can be homeless and starve, since they can't rent a place to live, or get welfare or food stamps...

And they have to do without booze or cigarettes too...

Why do the racist Democrats hate blacks so much???

What kind of absent minded circular logic are you throwing on the wall in hopes it will stick? No one said there should be NO IDs! There should be no requirement for an ID when exercising your right to vote.

If you want to play, play sensibly or not at all.

The point is, they need an ID for damn near everything else... JUST TO SURVIVE!!!

If the Democrats would spend half the time helping their fellow Democrat voters get an ID that they do in trying to make voter fraud possible, think of the difference it could make..

 

[Nosmo King]

Voter ID is a solution to a problem that does not exist. Just another example of Conservative policies aimed squarely at minorities for repression's sake.

Not true. It is already required in some states and is working to prevent voter fraud. The ID is also used to prevent other types of fraud as well. The only conclusion as to why the Democrats are opposed to voter id is that they are not opposed to voter fraud.

Look, voter ID is working in some states. That is a fact.

If voter fraud was a real problem I assure you that Democrats would be there with a workable solution. But voter fraud is not a prevalent problem in the United States. Voter ID laws seek to solve a problem that does not exist. Therefore, the only real reason to require voter IDs is to suppress the vote. It's purely political.

Voter Fraud Is Rampant, And Democrats Ignore It

But I'll play...

If there's not a voter fraud problem, then the Democrats obviously just want blacks to not have an ID, where they can be homeless and starve, since they can't rent a place to live, or get welfare or food stamps...

And they have to do without booze or cigarettes too...

Why do the racist Democrats hate blacks so much???

What kind of absent minded circular logic are you throwing on the wall in hopes it will stick? No one said there should be NO IDs! There should be no requirement for an ID when exercising your right to vote.

If you want to play, play sensibly or not at all.

The point is, they need an ID for damn near everything else... JUST TO SURVIVE!!!

If the Democrats would spend half the time helping their fellow Democrat voters get an ID that they do in trying to make voter fraud possible, think of the difference it could make..

More dimwitted circular logic. Voter fraud is not a problem hampering our elections. Voter suppression via a mandated ID is.

 

[the_human_being]

How does it

Voter ID is a solution to a problem that does not exist. Just another example of Conservative policies aimed squarely at minorities for repression's sake.

Not true. It is already required in some states and is working to prevent voter fraud. The ID is also used to prevent other types of fraud as well. The only conclusion as to why the Democrats are opposed to voter id is that they are not opposed to voter fraud.

Look, voter ID is working in some states. That is a fact.

If voter fraud was a real problem I assure you that Democrats would be there with a workable solution. But voter fraud is not a prevalent problem in the United States. Voter ID laws seek to solve a problem that does not exist. Therefore, the only real reason to require voter IDs is to suppress the vote. It's purely political.

1 fraudulent vote is too many. In a close election, a few fraudulent votes could change the outcome. But you dems know that and thats why you oppose voter ID laws.

That's not at all why 'we Dems' oppose voter ID. Had you been paying attention, you would know why.

Voter ID is voter suppression. There is not enough voter fraud to mandate a requirement that suppresses votes.

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Voter ID is a solution to a problem that does not exist. Just another example of Conservative policies aimed squarely at minorities for repression's sake.

Not true. It is already required in some states and is working to prevent voter fraud. The ID is also used to prevent other types of fraud as well. The only conclusion as to why the Democrats are opposed to voter id is that they are not opposed to voter fraud.

Look, voter ID is working in some states. That is a fact.

If voter fraud was a real problem I assure you that Democrats would be there with a workable solution. But voter fraud is not a prevalent problem in the United States. Voter ID laws seek to solve a problem that does not exist. Therefore, the only real reason to require voter IDs is to suppress the vote. It's purely political.

Then why oppose it? All you are claiming (to which I agree) is that Blacks are the most stupid and uneducated of all ethnic groups.

 

[the_human_being]

Not true. It is already required in some states and is working to prevent voter fraud. The ID is also used to prevent other types of fraud as well. The only conclusion as to why the Democrats are opposed to voter id is that they are not opposed to voter fraud.

Look, voter ID is working in some states. That is a fact.

If voter fraud was a real problem I assure you that Democrats would be there with a workable solution. But voter fraud is not a prevalent problem in the United States. Voter ID laws seek to solve a problem that does not exist. Therefore, the only real reason to require voter IDs is to suppress the vote. It's purely political.

Voter Fraud Is Rampant, And Democrats Ignore It

But I'll play...

If there's not a voter fraud problem, then the Democrats obviously just want blacks to not have an ID, where they can be homeless and starve, since they can't rent a place to live, or get welfare or food stamps...

And they have to do without booze or cigarettes too...

Why do the racist Democrats hate blacks so much???

What kind of absent minded circular logic are you throwing on the wall in hopes it will stick? No one said there should be NO IDs! There should be no requirement for an ID when exercising your right to vote.

If you want to play, play sensibly or not at all.

The point is, they need an ID for damn near everything else... JUST TO SURVIVE!!!

If the Democrats would spend half the time helping their fellow Democrat voters get an ID that they do in trying to make voter fraud possible, think of the difference it could make..

More dimwitted circular logic. Voter fraud is not a problem hampering our elections. Voter suppression via a mandated ID is.

It suppresses no ones right to vote in the whole state of Florida.

 

[the_human_being]

I submit that

Voter ID is a solution to a problem that does not exist. Just another example of Conservative policies aimed squarely at minorities for repression's sake.

Not true. It is already required in some states and is working to prevent voter fraud. The ID is also used to prevent other types of fraud as well. The only conclusion as to why the Democrats are opposed to voter id is that they are not opposed to voter fraud.

Look, voter ID is working in some states. That is a fact.

If voter fraud was a real problem I assure you that Democrats would be there with a workable solution. But voter fraud is not a prevalent problem in the United States. Voter ID laws seek to solve a problem that does not exist. Therefore, the only real reason to require voter IDs is to suppress the vote. It's purely political.

Voter Fraud Is Rampant, And Democrats Ignore It

But I'll play...

If there's not a voter fraud problem, then the Democrats obviously just want blacks to not have an ID, where they can be homeless and starve, since they can't rent a place to live, or get welfare or food stamps...

And they have to do without booze or cigarettes too...

Why do the racist Democrats hate blacks so much???

What kind of absent minded circular logic are you throwing on the wall in hopes it will stick? No one said there should be NO IDs! There should be no requirement for an ID when exercising your right to vote.

If you want to play, play sensibly or not at all.

The point is, they need an ID for damn near everything else... JUST TO SURVIVE!!!

If the Democrats would spend half the time helping their fellow Democrat voters get an ID that they do in trying to make voter fraud possible, think of the difference it could make..

I submit that the majority of them have a valid ID in their wallets or purses. They just don't want to have to show their ID like all the rest of the voters do so that they can vote more than once should they choose.

 

[the_human_being]

Republicans said this would never happen

Alabama Demands Voter ID--Then Closes Driver's License Offices In Black Counties

What happens when a state with a tough voter ID law suddenly makes it much harder for minorities to get driver's licenses? We are about to find out in Alabama.
Facing a budget crisis, Alabama has shuttered 31 driver's license offices, many of them in counties with a high proportion of black residents. Coming after the state recently put into effect a tougher voter ID law, the closures will cut off access -- particularly for minorities -- to one of the few types of IDs accepted.
According to a tally by AL.com columnist John Archibald, eight of the 10 Alabama counties with the highest percentage of non-white registered voters saw their driver's license offices closed.
"Every single county in which blacks make up more than 75 percent of registered voters will see their driver license office closed. Every one," Archibald wrote.
Archibald also noted that many of the counties where offices were closed also leaned Democrat.
"But maybe it's not racial at all, right? Maybe it's just political. And let's face it, it may not be either." he wrote. "But no matter the intent, the consequence is the same."

Anyone bother doing their due dilligence to find out if those closed offices were budget-cut related and not post hoc ergo propter hoc?

I'll bet you that budget constraints is the underlying reason.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Not true. It is already required in some states and is working to prevent voter fraud. The ID is also used to prevent other types of fraud as well. The only conclusion as to why the Democrats are opposed to voter id is that they are not opposed to voter fraud.

Look, voter ID is working in some states. That is a fact.

If voter fraud was a real problem I assure you that Democrats would be there with a workable solution. But voter fraud is not a prevalent problem in the United States. Voter ID laws seek to solve a problem that does not exist. Therefore, the only real reason to require voter IDs is to suppress the vote. It's purely political.

Voter Fraud Is Rampant, And Democrats Ignore It

But I'll play...

If there's not a voter fraud problem, then the Democrats obviously just want blacks to not have an ID, where they can be homeless and starve, since they can't rent a place to live, or get welfare or food stamps...

And they have to do without booze or cigarettes too...

Why do the racist Democrats hate blacks so much???

What kind of absent minded circular logic are you throwing on the wall in hopes it will stick? No one said there should be NO IDs! There should be no requirement for an ID when exercising your right to vote.

If you want to play, play sensibly or not at all.

The point is, they need an ID for damn near everything else... JUST TO SURVIVE!!!

If the Democrats would spend half the time helping their fellow Democrat voters get an ID that they do in trying to make voter fraud possible, think of the difference it could make..

More dimwitted circular logic. Voter fraud is not a problem hampering our elections. Voter suppression via a mandated ID is.

There are plenty of stories of voter fraud and even convictions in this country. I have a huge folder with links to many of them.

Nobody is being suppressed when it comes to voting. We all play by the same rules. How much fairer can it be than that?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Voter ID is a solution to a problem that does not exist. Just another example of Conservative policies aimed squarely at minorities for repression's sake.

Not true. It is already required in some states and is working to prevent voter fraud. The ID is also used to prevent other types of fraud as well. The only conclusion as to why the Democrats are opposed to voter id is that they are not opposed to voter fraud.

Look, voter ID is working in some states. That is a fact.

If voter fraud was a real problem I assure you that Democrats would be there with a workable solution. But voter fraud is not a prevalent problem in the United States. Voter ID laws seek to solve a problem that does not exist. Therefore, the only real reason to require voter IDs is to suppress the vote. It's purely political.

1 fraudulent vote is too many. In a close election, a few fraudulent votes could change the outcome. But you dems know that and thats why you oppose voter ID laws.

That's not at all why 'we Dems' oppose voter ID. Had you been paying attention, you would know why.

Voter ID is voter suppression. There is not enough voter fraud to mandate a requirement that suppresses votes.

Voter fraud is like breaking the speed limit on the highway. Nobody from the government knows you're doing it until they put a cop there to give you a ticket. But if the cop isn't there, that doesn't mean people are not speeding.

You say there isn't enough voter fraud to mandate an ID, but I say there isn't enough people being disenfranchised to not mandate an ID. So far I've heard about one or two cases in each state that toyed with the idea.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Voter ID is a solution to a problem that does not exist. Just another example of Conservative policies aimed squarely at minorities for repression's sake.

Not true. It is already required in some states and is working to prevent voter fraud. The ID is also used to prevent other types of fraud as well. The only conclusion as to why the Democrats are opposed to voter id is that they are not opposed to voter fraud.

Look, voter ID is working in some states. That is a fact.

If voter fraud was a real problem I assure you that Democrats would be there with a workable solution. But voter fraud is not a prevalent problem in the United States. Voter ID laws seek to solve a problem that does not exist. Therefore, the only real reason to require voter IDs is to suppress the vote. It's purely political.

So is giving drivers licenses to illegals who could use those licenses as ID's at the voting booth. It's all political.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

We don't want voter ID because it's an unwarranted burden on the fundamental right to vote.

 

[the_human_being]

We don't want voter ID because it's an unwarranted burden on the fundamental right to vote.

How is it a burden when you have to have an ID even to collect Social Security? Make sense man.