Why White People Don’t Like to Talk About Race

[bigrebnc1775]

USMB is a fine example of this.


Now watch the racism you will see from people who are going to complain. They never complain when a thread by a white person denigrating blacks is posted. Only when a thread about whites is made do they suddenly become colorblind.

How wrong can anyone be about people

Black guy with machete...

"According to reports, a black male entered Rabbi Rottenburg’s Shul, located in the Forshay neighborhood in Monsey, and pulled out a machete. He pulled off the cover and stabbed at least 3 people. One of the victims was stabbed in the chest.

The perpetrator then ran out and escaped in a vehicle. His plates were spotted before he left, and the police are currently searching for him..."

MONSEY STABBING: Multiple People Stabbed In Synagogue Saturday Night - Vos Iz Neias

I agree with you on many issues and this was bad, but why is his race important to the thread?
I'm more interested in his politics than his race.

 

[Butch_Coolidge]

you hate all whites and that makes you a racist.

I don't hate all whites, therefore by your definition, which is not the definition of racism, I am not a racist.

I read your shit and your words give you away. You're a racist and hate all whites Those you claim not to hate you only use them to benefit your agenda. You aren't fooling anyone but yourself and those who think you don't hate all whites.

I have a half white child. So no, I don't hate whites. You're just a sniveling racist punk who wants to run his mouth off about black people and can't take it when the mirror is put in your face. There is only one agenda going on here, white men who want the old days when they got to do whatever they want to everyone else back.

What’s wrong with the sistas baby daddy? Hypocrite. A strong black woman ain’t good enough for you. That poor kid has been subjected to your racist views their whole life. Never good enough, and indoctrinated with your radical racist rhetoric. The truth comes out.


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He's pissed because the white woman got knocked up

Black women expect the man to have a big dick. [emoji533]


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[bigrebnc1775]

I don't hate all whites, therefore by your definition, which is not the definition of racism, I am not a racist.

I read your shit and your words give you away. You're a racist and hate all whites Those you claim not to hate you only use them to benefit your agenda. You aren't fooling anyone but yourself and those who think you don't hate all whites.

I have a half white child. So no, I don't hate whites. You're just a sniveling racist punk who wants to run his mouth off about black people and can't take it when the mirror is put in your face. There is only one agenda going on here, white men who want the old days when they got to do whatever they want to everyone else back.

What’s wrong with the sistas baby daddy? Hypocrite. A strong black woman ain’t good enough for you. That poor kid has been subjected to your racist views their whole life. Never good enough, and indoctrinated with your radical racist rhetoric. The truth comes out.


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He's pissed because the white woman got knocked up

Black women expect the man to have a big dick. [emoji533]


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They call me white anaconda

 

[beautress]

From your article, it seeks an answer, and I have one;

". . . The easy thing to do is just sit down in the room (it’s comfortably furnished after all) and do nothing. But then we never get out. What will unlock the door?"

Simple, refuse to acknowledge that there is a door between us.

Don't judge each other by our skin color. The ruling elites WANT you to judge folks by externalities like sex, sexual orientation, age, religion, and skin color, political identification, etc., it keeps populations divided. STOP IT.

You don't have the answer and posting videos of blacks who you try using to justify your refusal to really want to do something about it is not going to work. This is about public policy and until whites are willing to do what it takes for real equality in a capitalist system, don't come to me with some simple minded bullshit like what you posted.

Racists are very good at instructing everyone as to the percentage of blacks in the population. And they reach hard to extrapolate exaggerated numbers about crime, often conflating murder with total crime. But somehow and really it's done on purpose because we are dealing with racists, are other important statistical data is not discussed.

Blacks are 13 percent of the American population but have 2.6 percent of the wealth. This did not happen because of laziness. Indeed, the historical records shows that blacks have consistently worked as hard or harder than whites and for far less money, including over 230 years for free. Equality in a capitalist system means we have 13 percent of the wealth. We have 1/5 the wealth we should have in proportion to our population.

Before I end this, let me break down what white racism has done to this nation. While certain whites gloat about how successful they have been as a race and lecture others about how they have failed, facts they have created the problems being complained about today. If not for racism everyone would be better off economically, fewer people would be on the public dime, tax revenues would increase at every level, we’d have a smaller deficit, or possibly no national deficit or debt. Crime would be reduced dramatically, unemployment very well would be less than 1 percent. More than likely the increased tax revenue could help provide free education and health care to all American citizens. After reading study after study shoes us that virtually every economic problem we have stems from the racism that has denied people of color opportunity.

Oprah Winfrey is a billionnaire, IM2. She worked hard for her money, and she made peace with all races of people. Nobody is like her. She makes good investments, and she benefits whoever calls on her to help.
You have to believe in yourself when you're young. And you have to jump through a lot of hoops to succeed in life. There are plenty of black men who've succeeded also. Robert F. Smith made a billion dollars, too, when he was young, because he showed tenacity to the tasks he was given and moved up to start investing his wealth to 5x his first billion. Michael Jordan is twice over a billionnaire, because he invested his superstar paycheck quite well. If you ever watched him play basketball, you'd know he was a genius in every way, and he broke records wherever he went, and whatever he did.

America is for everybody who works hard. And America is for you.

America’s Black Billionaires: The Richest African Americans in 2019 - Black Enterprise

I know how many blacks are millionaires and billionaires and that number is 36,000 out of 47.6 million. The ignorant defense of Oprah and Michael Jordan is not what I am going to listen to. Blacks have always worked hard and I certainly won't be listening to lectures from a person that married into mobility. From the ages of 28 - 52, I helped build and develop 3 organizations. Almost 7 years ago, I retired at 52 and now work on personal projects on my time. I know what hard work is and I know what America has. And what it has is about 1/5 of it's population running their mouths off trying to tell others that the America they experience doesn't exist. But it does and as we enter the 3rd decade of the 21st century, it's time those like you stopped lying to yourselves.

In order to reach true equality in a capitalist system all must have equal control of capital, especially in our own communities. Blacks have an economy of 1.3 trillion dollars. According to the U.S. Census Bureau, there are 2.6 million Black-owned business in the United States, compared to 22.6 million white-owned businesses. Blacks/African Americans, who make up more than 13% of the U.S. population, only own about 7% of all the businesses in the country, and generate only about 0.5% of total receipts. Out of those 2.6 million businesses, 95 percent were sole proprietorships with no hired employees. 109,000 of these businesses were able to hire employees. Those businesses hired over 975,000 people.

It is apparent that such numbers need to increase. While much is made about foreign trade deficits, Americans face internal trade deficits of our own making.

Racists are very good at instructing everyone as to the percentage of blacks in the population. And they reach hard to extrapolate exaggerated numbers about crime, often conflating murder with total crime. But somehow and really it's done on purpose because we are dealing with racists, are other important statistical data is not discussed.

Blacks are 13 percent of the American population but have 2.6 percent of the wealth. This did not happen because of laziness. Indeed, the historical records shows that blacks have consistently worked as hard or harder than whites and for far less money, including over 230 years for free. Equality in a capitalist system means we have 13 percent of the wealth. We have 1/5 the wealth we should have in proportion to our population.

Again, let me break down what white racism has done to this nation. While certain whites gloat about how successful they have been as a race and lecture others about how they have failed, facts they have created the problems being complained about today. If not for racism everyone would be better off economically, fewer people would be on the public dime, tax revenues would increase at every level, we’d have a smaller deficit, or possibly no national deficit or debt. Crime would be reduced dramatically, unemployment very well would be less than 1 percent. More than likely the increased tax revenue could help provide free education and health care to all American citizens. After reading study after study shoes us that virtually every economic problem we have stems from the racism that has denied people of color opportunity.

Mr. IM2, you have anger. I can't do anything about it. I have a neighbor next door, and if he asked for something reasonable, I would furnish it. But he doesn't have any expectations of me, nor I of him. Everybody's neighbors, but if we expect something different because one is white skinned and one is of color, we're working against something called brotherhood, because not paying attention to skin color and believing we are neighbors makes us able to be friends.

But you can't be friends with an angry hothead, nor can you be of any use to one, nor should you be. If I had a friend as angry as you, I'd try to get them to seek a special person known as a psychologist (not a psychiatrist). A psychologist is one who works with people to change anger into a neutral force so that the person can interact without anger among his fellow citizens, whether they are male or female, black or white, protestant or Jew or Muslim or Mormon or Baptist or any other religious affiliation.

I'm not a psychologist, but surely rather than living you entire life out in a rage against everybody else, you could do yourself a favor and request a psychologist run you through his program to help you see life events from perspectives of those you feel such annoyance and anger at you trade ugly words with them as a habit that it's up to you to keep or to break as your chosen lifestyle.

I wish you well on your communications so that you will someday feel not so angry you must make mountains out of what others consider to be molehills. You'll be a lot happier when you see an antbed as a molehill without making them mad or they'll bite. Nothing but good wishes, sir. And bon voyage. Happy trails.

 

[IM2]

My question is why can’t IM2 stop talking about race?

I guess he can't let go.

My neighbors who are black people, they have good jobs and own their houses, have good cars and go a week or two for vacations each year. They never talk about race, they didn't make their lives miserable wasting their time thinking about race.

At this point, even many illegal immigrants are capable to succeed and make good income and even business. While I have witnessed as well that people who think about the past they can't progress because they can't concentrate in their future.

When the OP can't respond that today race is not an issue, then he transforms himself from hysterical to historical, and he starts mentioning the crude treatment against his ancestors in the past.

Today's people are not guilty of what their ancestors did or didn't do.

And race is not an issue for people who want to live and progress in today's society.

The OP has an agenda which is not working anymore. Society has changed a lot, and you can notice in the news that people who suffers consequences because "the color of their skin" are mostly low income people, who can't progress because they claim society owes them, I don't have any idea what society owes to them, but such is their claim.

Perhaps that is the reason they refuse to work waiting for a check coming for free, and the check never arrives and they keep living in poverty generation after generation? If this is what is happening, then my neighbors who are black are the smarten between black people, because they don't wait for the free check... they work for earn it instead.

The only agenda that's not working is yours. And it's because the facts don't support the lie you tell yourself. Anecdotes about that 1 black family or that 1 black you know at work doesn't change the facts.

White Americans’ Hold on Wealth Is Old, Deep, and Nearly Unshakeable
Brentin Mock
September 3, 2019

White families quickly recuperated financial losses after the Civil War, and then created a Jim Crow credit system to bring more white families into money.

It will end up costing the U.S. economy as much as $1 trillion between now and 2028 for the nation to maintain its longstanding black-white racial wealth gap, according to a report released this month from the global consultancy firm McKinsey & Company. That will be roughly 4 percent of the United States GDP in 2028—just the conservative view, assuming that the wealth growth rates of African Americans will outpace white wealth growth at its current clip of 3 percent to .8 percent annually, said McKinsey. If the gap widens, however, with white wealth growing at a faster rate than black wealth instead, it could end up costing the U.S. $1.5 trillion or 6 percent of GDP according to the firm.

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“Despite the progress black families have made in civic and economic life since the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, they face systemic and cumulative barriers on the road to wealth building due to discrimination, poverty, and a shortage of social connections,” reads the report, “as both mechanisms and results of racial economic inequity.”

Crucial to understanding how to close that gap—such that it can actually be closed—is grappling with how it was created in the first place. The McKinsey report identifies four components that perpetuate this gap—family wealth, family income, family savings, and community context (a community’s collective public and private assets). Black families have not been able to build wealth due to “unmet needs and obstacles” across these four dimensions.

That’s the deficit-lens on the problem as it pertains to black families. But it’s worth looking at how each of those components also played a huge role in boosting white families’ financial standing to begin with. The wealth, income, and savings that white families accumulated during slavery supplied the economic thew that catapulted them into elite affluent status during the country’s first two centuries of existence. But it was community context and creative credit machinations that helped white families maintain that status over the ensuing two centuries, putting into doubt whether a closure of the black-white racial wealth gap is even possible given these deeply entrenched advantages.
The Amazing Resiliency of White Wealth - CityLab

 

[IM2]

From your article, it seeks an answer, and I have one;

". . . The easy thing to do is just sit down in the room (it’s comfortably furnished after all) and do nothing. But then we never get out. What will unlock the door?"

Simple, refuse to acknowledge that there is a door between us.

Don't judge each other by our skin color. The ruling elites WANT you to judge folks by externalities like sex, sexual orientation, age, religion, and skin color, political identification, etc., it keeps populations divided. STOP IT.

You don't have the answer and posting videos of blacks who you try using to justify your refusal to really want to do something about it is not going to work. This is about public policy and until whites are willing to do what it takes for real equality in a capitalist system, don't come to me with some simple minded bullshit like what you posted.

Racists are very good at instructing everyone as to the percentage of blacks in the population. And they reach hard to extrapolate exaggerated numbers about crime, often conflating murder with total crime. But somehow and really it's done on purpose because we are dealing with racists, are other important statistical data is not discussed.

Blacks are 13 percent of the American population but have 2.6 percent of the wealth. This did not happen because of laziness. Indeed, the historical records shows that blacks have consistently worked as hard or harder than whites and for far less money, including over 230 years for free. Equality in a capitalist system means we have 13 percent of the wealth. We have 1/5 the wealth we should have in proportion to our population.

Before I end this, let me break down what white racism has done to this nation. While certain whites gloat about how successful they have been as a race and lecture others about how they have failed, facts they have created the problems being complained about today. If not for racism everyone would be better off economically, fewer people would be on the public dime, tax revenues would increase at every level, we’d have a smaller deficit, or possibly no national deficit or debt. Crime would be reduced dramatically, unemployment very well would be less than 1 percent. More than likely the increased tax revenue could help provide free education and health care to all American citizens. After reading study after study shoes us that virtually every economic problem we have stems from the racism that has denied people of color opportunity.

Oprah Winfrey is a billionnaire, IM2. She worked hard for her money, and she made peace with all races of people. Nobody is like her. She makes good investments, and she benefits whoever calls on her to help.
You have to believe in yourself when you're young. And you have to jump through a lot of hoops to succeed in life. There are plenty of black men who've succeeded also. Robert F. Smith made a billion dollars, too, when he was young, because he showed tenacity to the tasks he was given and moved up to start investing his wealth to 5x his first billion. Michael Jordan is twice over a billionnaire, because he invested his superstar paycheck quite well. If you ever watched him play basketball, you'd know he was a genius in every way, and he broke records wherever he went, and whatever he did.

America is for everybody who works hard. And America is for you.

America’s Black Billionaires: The Richest African Americans in 2019 - Black Enterprise

I know how many blacks are millionaires and billionaires and that number is 36,000 out of 47.6 million. The ignorant defense of Oprah and Michael Jordan is not what I am going to listen to. Blacks have always worked hard and I certainly won't be listening to lectures from a person that married into mobility. From the ages of 28 - 52, I helped build and develop 3 organizations. Almost 7 years ago, I retired at 52 and now work on personal projects on my time. I know what hard work is and I know what America has. And what it has is about 1/5 of it's population running their mouths off trying to tell others that the America they experience doesn't exist. But it does and as we enter the 3rd decade of the 21st century, it's time those like you stopped lying to yourselves.

In order to reach true equality in a capitalist system all must have equal control of capital, especially in our own communities. Blacks have an economy of 1.3 trillion dollars. According to the U.S. Census Bureau, there are 2.6 million Black-owned business in the United States, compared to 22.6 million white-owned businesses. Blacks/African Americans, who make up more than 13% of the U.S. population, only own about 7% of all the businesses in the country, and generate only about 0.5% of total receipts. Out of those 2.6 million businesses, 95 percent were sole proprietorships with no hired employees. 109,000 of these businesses were able to hire employees. Those businesses hired over 975,000 people.

It is apparent that such numbers need to increase. While much is made about foreign trade deficits, Americans face internal trade deficits of our own making.

Racists are very good at instructing everyone as to the percentage of blacks in the population. And they reach hard to extrapolate exaggerated numbers about crime, often conflating murder with total crime. But somehow and really it's done on purpose because we are dealing with racists, are other important statistical data is not discussed.

Blacks are 13 percent of the American population but have 2.6 percent of the wealth. This did not happen because of laziness. Indeed, the historical records shows that blacks have consistently worked as hard or harder than whites and for far less money, including over 230 years for free. Equality in a capitalist system means we have 13 percent of the wealth. We have 1/5 the wealth we should have in proportion to our population.

Again, let me break down what white racism has done to this nation. While certain whites gloat about how successful they have been as a race and lecture others about how they have failed, facts they have created the problems being complained about today. If not for racism everyone would be better off economically, fewer people would be on the public dime, tax revenues would increase at every level, we’d have a smaller deficit, or possibly no national deficit or debt. Crime would be reduced dramatically, unemployment very well would be less than 1 percent. More than likely the increased tax revenue could help provide free education and health care to all American citizens. After reading study after study shoes us that virtually every economic problem we have stems from the racism that has denied people of color opportunity.

Mr. IM2, you have anger. I can't do anything about it. I have a neighbor next door, and if he asked for something reasonable, I would furnish it. But he doesn't have any expectations of me, nor I of him. Everybody's neighbors, but if we expect something different because one is white skinned and one is of color, we're working against something called brotherhood, because not paying attention to skin color and believing we are neighbors makes us able to be friends.

But you can't be friends with an angry hothead, nor can you be of any use to one, nor should you be. If I had a friend as angry as you, I'd try to get them to seek a special person known as a psychologist (not a psychiatrist). A psychologist is one who works with people to change anger into a neutral force so that the person can interact without anger among his fellow citizens, whether they are male or female, black or white, protestant or Jew or Muslim or Mormon or Baptist or any other religious affiliation.

I'm not a psychologist, but surely rather than living you entire life out in a rage against everybody else, you could do yourself a favor and request a psychologist run you through his program to help you see life events from perspectives of those you feel such annoyance and anger at you trade ugly words with them as a habit that it's up to you to keep or to break as your chosen lifestyle.

I wish you well on your communications so that you will someday feel not so angry you must make mountains out of what others consider to be molehills. You'll be a lot happier when you see an antbed as a molehill without making them mad or they'll bite. Nothing but good wishes, sir. And bon voyage. Happy trails.

If I am angry, I have right to be. I am not a psychiatrist, but the crap you post here shows that you are unbalanced. We are to pretend racism is a part of the past even as we see it happening now. And we are not supposed to be angry about it's continuance , while whites can make things up to be mad about and everybody is supposed to be mad. You're a loony tune. Racism is Mount Everest it, is not a molehill. Turn black and live, then come try lecturing me with your lunacy.

 

[Correll]

My question is why can’t IM2 stop talking about race?

I guess he can't let go.

My neighbors who are black people, they have good jobs and own their houses, have good cars and go a week or two for vacations each year. They never talk about race, they didn't make their lives miserable wasting their time thinking about race.

At this point, even many illegal immigrants are capable to succeed and make good income and even business. While I have witnessed as well that people who think about the past they can't progress because they can't concentrate in their future.

When the OP can't respond that today race is not an issue, then he transforms himself from hysterical to historical, and he starts mentioning the crude treatment against his ancestors in the past.

Today's people are not guilty of what their ancestors did or didn't do.

And race is not an issue for people who want to live and progress in today's society.

The OP has an agenda which is not working anymore. Society has changed a lot, and you can notice in the news that people who suffers consequences because "the color of their skin" are mostly low income people, who can't progress because they claim society owes them, I don't have any idea what society owes to them, but such is their claim.

Perhaps that is the reason they refuse to work waiting for a check coming for free, and the check never arrives and they keep living in poverty generation after generation? If this is what is happening, then my neighbors who are black are the smarten between black people, because they don't wait for the free check... they work for earn it instead.

The only agenda that's not working is yours. And it's because the facts don't support the lie you tell yourself. Anecdotes about that 1 black family or that 1 black you know at work doesn't change the facts.

White Americans’ Hold on Wealth Is Old, Deep, and Nearly Unshakeable
Brentin Mock
September 3, 2019

White families quickly recuperated financial losses after the Civil War, and then created a Jim Crow credit system to bring more white families into money.

It will end up costing the U.S. economy as much as $1 trillion between now and 2028 for the nation to maintain its longstanding black-white racial wealth gap, according to a report released this month from the global consultancy firm McKinsey & Company. That will be roughly 4 percent of the United States GDP in 2028—just the conservative view, assuming that the wealth growth rates of African Americans will outpace white wealth growth at its current clip of 3 percent to .8 percent annually, said McKinsey. If the gap widens, however, with white wealth growing at a faster rate than black wealth instead, it could end up costing the U.S. $1.5 trillion or 6 percent of GDP according to the firm.

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“Despite the progress black families have made in civic and economic life since the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, they face systemic and cumulative barriers on the road to wealth building due to discrimination, poverty, and a shortage of social connections,” reads the report, “as both mechanisms and results of racial economic inequity.”

Crucial to understanding how to close that gap—such that it can actually be closed—is grappling with how it was created in the first place. The McKinsey report identifies four components that perpetuate this gap—family wealth, family income, family savings, and community context (a community’s collective public and private assets). Black families have not been able to build wealth due to “unmet needs and obstacles” across these four dimensions.

That’s the deficit-lens on the problem as it pertains to black families. But it’s worth looking at how each of those components also played a huge role in boosting white families’ financial standing to begin with. The wealth, income, and savings that white families accumulated during slavery supplied the economic thew that catapulted them into elite affluent status during the country’s first two centuries of existence. But it was community context and creative credit machinations that helped white families maintain that status over the ensuing two centuries, putting into doubt whether a closure of the black-white racial wealth gap is even possible given these deeply entrenched advantages.
The Amazing Resiliency of White Wealth - CityLab

You ever going to respond to the fact that I pointed out that your premise is nonsense?

 

[IM2]

 

[Lastamender]

From your article, it seeks an answer, and I have one;

". . . The easy thing to do is just sit down in the room (it’s comfortably furnished after all) and do nothing. But then we never get out. What will unlock the door?"

Simple, refuse to acknowledge that there is a door between us.

Don't judge each other by our skin color. The ruling elites WANT you to judge folks by externalities like sex, sexual orientation, age, religion, and skin color, political identification, etc., it keeps populations divided. STOP IT.

You don't have the answer and posting videos of blacks who you try using to justify your refusal to really want to do something about it is not going to work. This is about public policy and until whites are willing to do what it takes for real equality in a capitalist system, don't come to me with some simple minded bullshit like what you posted.

Racists are very good at instructing everyone as to the percentage of blacks in the population. And they reach hard to extrapolate exaggerated numbers about crime, often conflating murder with total crime. But somehow and really it's done on purpose because we are dealing with racists, are other important statistical data is not discussed.

Blacks are 13 percent of the American population but have 2.6 percent of the wealth. This did not happen because of laziness. Indeed, the historical records shows that blacks have consistently worked as hard or harder than whites and for far less money, including over 230 years for free. Equality in a capitalist system means we have 13 percent of the wealth. We have 1/5 the wealth we should have in proportion to our population.

Before I end this, let me break down what white racism has done to this nation. While certain whites gloat about how successful they have been as a race and lecture others about how they have failed, facts they have created the problems being complained about today. If not for racism everyone would be better off economically, fewer people would be on the public dime, tax revenues would increase at every level, we’d have a smaller deficit, or possibly no national deficit or debt. Crime would be reduced dramatically, unemployment very well would be less than 1 percent. More than likely the increased tax revenue could help provide free education and health care to all American citizens. After reading study after study shoes us that virtually every economic problem we have stems from the racism that has denied people of color opportunity.

Oprah Winfrey is a billionnaire, IM2. She worked hard for her money, and she made peace with all races of people. Nobody is like her. She makes good investments, and she benefits whoever calls on her to help.
You have to believe in yourself when you're young. And you have to jump through a lot of hoops to succeed in life. There are plenty of black men who've succeeded also. Robert F. Smith made a billion dollars, too, when he was young, because he showed tenacity to the tasks he was given and moved up to start investing his wealth to 5x his first billion. Michael Jordan is twice over a billionnaire, because he invested his superstar paycheck quite well. If you ever watched him play basketball, you'd know he was a genius in every way, and he broke records wherever he went, and whatever he did.

America is for everybody who works hard. And America is for you.

America’s Black Billionaires: The Richest African Americans in 2019 - Black Enterprise

I know how many blacks are millionaires and billionaires and that number is 36,000 out of 47.6 million. The ignorant defense of Oprah and Michael Jordan is not what I am going to listen to. Blacks have always worked hard and I certainly won't be listening to lectures from a person that married into mobility. From the ages of 28 - 52, I helped build and develop 3 organizations. Almost 7 years ago, I retired at 52 and now work on personal projects on my time. I know what hard work is and I know what America has. And what it has is about 1/5 of it's population running their mouths off trying to tell others that the America they experience doesn't exist. But it does and as we enter the 3rd decade of the 21st century, it's time those like you stopped lying to yourselves.

In order to reach true equality in a capitalist system all must have equal control of capital, especially in our own communities. Blacks have an economy of 1.3 trillion dollars. According to the U.S. Census Bureau, there are 2.6 million Black-owned business in the United States, compared to 22.6 million white-owned businesses. Blacks/African Americans, who make up more than 13% of the U.S. population, only own about 7% of all the businesses in the country, and generate only about 0.5% of total receipts. Out of those 2.6 million businesses, 95 percent were sole proprietorships with no hired employees. 109,000 of these businesses were able to hire employees. Those businesses hired over 975,000 people.

It is apparent that such numbers need to increase. While much is made about foreign trade deficits, Americans face internal trade deficits of our own making.

Racists are very good at instructing everyone as to the percentage of blacks in the population. And they reach hard to extrapolate exaggerated numbers about crime, often conflating murder with total crime. But somehow and really it's done on purpose because we are dealing with racists, are other important statistical data is not discussed.

Blacks are 13 percent of the American population but have 2.6 percent of the wealth. This did not happen because of laziness. Indeed, the historical records shows that blacks have consistently worked as hard or harder than whites and for far less money, including over 230 years for free. Equality in a capitalist system means we have 13 percent of the wealth. We have 1/5 the wealth we should have in proportion to our population.

Again, let me break down what white racism has done to this nation. While certain whites gloat about how successful they have been as a race and lecture others about how they have failed, facts they have created the problems being complained about today. If not for racism everyone would be better off economically, fewer people would be on the public dime, tax revenues would increase at every level, we’d have a smaller deficit, or possibly no national deficit or debt. Crime would be reduced dramatically, unemployment very well would be less than 1 percent. More than likely the increased tax revenue could help provide free education and health care to all American citizens. After reading study after study shoes us that virtually every economic problem we have stems from the racism that has denied people of color opportunity.

Mr. IM2, you have anger. I can't do anything about it. I have a neighbor next door, and if he asked for something reasonable, I would furnish it. But he doesn't have any expectations of me, nor I of him. Everybody's neighbors, but if we expect something different because one is white skinned and one is of color, we're working against something called brotherhood, because not paying attention to skin color and believing we are neighbors makes us able to be friends.

But you can't be friends with an angry hothead, nor can you be of any use to one, nor should you be. If I had a friend as angry as you, I'd try to get them to seek a special person known as a psychologist (not a psychiatrist). A psychologist is one who works with people to change anger into a neutral force so that the person can interact without anger among his fellow citizens, whether they are male or female, black or white, protestant or Jew or Muslim or Mormon or Baptist or any other religious affiliation.

I'm not a psychologist, but surely rather than living you entire life out in a rage against everybody else, you could do yourself a favor and request a psychologist run you through his program to help you see life events from perspectives of those you feel such annoyance and anger at you trade ugly words with them as a habit that it's up to you to keep or to break as your chosen lifestyle.

I wish you well on your communications so that you will someday feel not so angry you must make mountains out of what others consider to be molehills. You'll be a lot happier when you see an antbed as a molehill without making them mad or they'll bite. Nothing but good wishes, sir. And bon voyage. Happy trails.

If I am angry, I have right to be. I am not a psychiatrist, but the crap you post here shows that you are unbalanced. We are to pretend racism is a part of the past even as we see it happening now. And we are not supposed to be angry about it's continuance , while whites can make things up to be mad about and everybody is supposed to be mad. You're a loony tune. Racism is Mount Everest it, is not a molehill. Turn black and live, then come try lecturing me with your lunacy.

If being Black means I am going to be miserable, paranoid, and up to my neck in self pity, I'll pass.

 

[Correll]

You will never see me display any guilt. Fear is the rational response to danger, and quite a number of you lefties are dangerously irrational.


If I argue with you, it is not a sign that I am having some "Race issue or bullshit" but that I disagree with you and am happy to call you on your bullshit.


EVERYTHING YOU SAY IS DELUSIONAL BULLSHIT.

 

[IM2]

So once gain we see the usual suspects saying the usual things. One of you has tried playing the MLK card. This card has never been played on the other thousand threads made in this forum by whites. But since you want to play stupid, it's time to break out the chalkboard.

"It will end up costing the U.S. economy as much as $1 trillion between now and 2028 for the nation to maintain its longstanding black-white racial wealth gap, according to a report released this month from the global consultancy firm McKinsey & Company. That will be roughly 4 percent of the United States GDP in 2028—just the conservative view, assuming that the wealth growth rates of African Americans will outpace white wealth growth at its current clip of 3 percent to .8 percent annually, said McKinsey. If the gap widens, however, with white wealth growing at a faster rate than black wealth instead, it could end up costing the U.S. $1.5 trillion or 6 percent of GDP according to the firm."

The Amazing Resiliency of White Wealth - CityLab

This is the cost of your racism.

It's the cost of YOUR racism
Your racism keeps blacks on the democrat plantation
Pretty pathetic if you're to lazy to make your own wealth don't whine because others have it.

No, that's the cost of your racism. There is no democratic plantation. If we blacks want to return to the plantation we'll join the republican party. Your comments show your ignorance.

 

[IM2]

You don't have the answer and posting videos of blacks who you try using to justify your refusal to really want to do something about it is not going to work. This is about public policy and until whites are willing to do what it takes for real equality in a capitalist system, don't come to me with some simple minded bullshit like what you posted.

Racists are very good at instructing everyone as to the percentage of blacks in the population. And they reach hard to extrapolate exaggerated numbers about crime, often conflating murder with total crime. But somehow and really it's done on purpose because we are dealing with racists, are other important statistical data is not discussed.

Blacks are 13 percent of the American population but have 2.6 percent of the wealth. This did not happen because of laziness. Indeed, the historical records shows that blacks have consistently worked as hard or harder than whites and for far less money, including over 230 years for free. Equality in a capitalist system means we have 13 percent of the wealth. We have 1/5 the wealth we should have in proportion to our population.

Before I end this, let me break down what white racism has done to this nation. While certain whites gloat about how successful they have been as a race and lecture others about how they have failed, facts they have created the problems being complained about today. If not for racism everyone would be better off economically, fewer people would be on the public dime, tax revenues would increase at every level, we’d have a smaller deficit, or possibly no national deficit or debt. Crime would be reduced dramatically, unemployment very well would be less than 1 percent. More than likely the increased tax revenue could help provide free education and health care to all American citizens. After reading study after study shoes us that virtually every economic problem we have stems from the racism that has denied people of color opportunity.

Oprah Winfrey is a billionnaire, IM2. She worked hard for her money, and she made peace with all races of people. Nobody is like her. She makes good investments, and she benefits whoever calls on her to help.
You have to believe in yourself when you're young. And you have to jump through a lot of hoops to succeed in life. There are plenty of black men who've succeeded also. Robert F. Smith made a billion dollars, too, when he was young, because he showed tenacity to the tasks he was given and moved up to start investing his wealth to 5x his first billion. Michael Jordan is twice over a billionnaire, because he invested his superstar paycheck quite well. If you ever watched him play basketball, you'd know he was a genius in every way, and he broke records wherever he went, and whatever he did.

America is for everybody who works hard. And America is for you.

America’s Black Billionaires: The Richest African Americans in 2019 - Black Enterprise

I know how many blacks are millionaires and billionaires and that number is 36,000 out of 47.6 million. The ignorant defense of Oprah and Michael Jordan is not what I am going to listen to. Blacks have always worked hard and I certainly won't be listening to lectures from a person that married into mobility. From the ages of 28 - 52, I helped build and develop 3 organizations. Almost 7 years ago, I retired at 52 and now work on personal projects on my time. I know what hard work is and I know what America has. And what it has is about 1/5 of it's population running their mouths off trying to tell others that the America they experience doesn't exist. But it does and as we enter the 3rd decade of the 21st century, it's time those like you stopped lying to yourselves.

In order to reach true equality in a capitalist system all must have equal control of capital, especially in our own communities. Blacks have an economy of 1.3 trillion dollars. According to the U.S. Census Bureau, there are 2.6 million Black-owned business in the United States, compared to 22.6 million white-owned businesses. Blacks/African Americans, who make up more than 13% of the U.S. population, only own about 7% of all the businesses in the country, and generate only about 0.5% of total receipts. Out of those 2.6 million businesses, 95 percent were sole proprietorships with no hired employees. 109,000 of these businesses were able to hire employees. Those businesses hired over 975,000 people.

It is apparent that such numbers need to increase. While much is made about foreign trade deficits, Americans face internal trade deficits of our own making.

Racists are very good at instructing everyone as to the percentage of blacks in the population. And they reach hard to extrapolate exaggerated numbers about crime, often conflating murder with total crime. But somehow and really it's done on purpose because we are dealing with racists, are other important statistical data is not discussed.

Blacks are 13 percent of the American population but have 2.6 percent of the wealth. This did not happen because of laziness. Indeed, the historical records shows that blacks have consistently worked as hard or harder than whites and for far less money, including over 230 years for free. Equality in a capitalist system means we have 13 percent of the wealth. We have 1/5 the wealth we should have in proportion to our population.

Again, let me break down what white racism has done to this nation. While certain whites gloat about how successful they have been as a race and lecture others about how they have failed, facts they have created the problems being complained about today. If not for racism everyone would be better off economically, fewer people would be on the public dime, tax revenues would increase at every level, we’d have a smaller deficit, or possibly no national deficit or debt. Crime would be reduced dramatically, unemployment very well would be less than 1 percent. More than likely the increased tax revenue could help provide free education and health care to all American citizens. After reading study after study shoes us that virtually every economic problem we have stems from the racism that has denied people of color opportunity.

Mr. IM2, you have anger. I can't do anything about it. I have a neighbor next door, and if he asked for something reasonable, I would furnish it. But he doesn't have any expectations of me, nor I of him. Everybody's neighbors, but if we expect something different because one is white skinned and one is of color, we're working against something called brotherhood, because not paying attention to skin color and believing we are neighbors makes us able to be friends.

But you can't be friends with an angry hothead, nor can you be of any use to one, nor should you be. If I had a friend as angry as you, I'd try to get them to seek a special person known as a psychologist (not a psychiatrist). A psychologist is one who works with people to change anger into a neutral force so that the person can interact without anger among his fellow citizens, whether they are male or female, black or white, protestant or Jew or Muslim or Mormon or Baptist or any other religious affiliation.

I'm not a psychologist, but surely rather than living you entire life out in a rage against everybody else, you could do yourself a favor and request a psychologist run you through his program to help you see life events from perspectives of those you feel such annoyance and anger at you trade ugly words with them as a habit that it's up to you to keep or to break as your chosen lifestyle.

I wish you well on your communications so that you will someday feel not so angry you must make mountains out of what others consider to be molehills. You'll be a lot happier when you see an antbed as a molehill without making them mad or they'll bite. Nothing but good wishes, sir. And bon voyage. Happy trails.

If I am angry, I have right to be. I am not a psychiatrist, but the crap you post here shows that you are unbalanced. We are to pretend racism is a part of the past even as we see it happening now. And we are not supposed to be angry about it's continuance , while whites can make things up to be mad about and everybody is supposed to be mad. You're a loony tune. Racism is Mount Everest it, is not a molehill. Turn black and live, then come try lecturing me with your lunacy.

If being Black means I am going to be miserable, paranoid, and up to my neck in self pity, I'll pass.

Being black has nothing to do with those things. We aren't the ones crying about a discrimination that's not happening. Whites like you are.

 

[Lastamender]

So once gain we see the usual suspects saying the usual things. One of you has tried playing the MLK card. This card has never been played on the other thousand threads made in this forum by whites. But since you want to play stupid, it's time to break out the chalkboard.

"It will end up costing the U.S. economy as much as $1 trillion between now and 2028 for the nation to maintain its longstanding black-white racial wealth gap, according to a report released this month from the global consultancy firm McKinsey & Company. That will be roughly 4 percent of the United States GDP in 2028—just the conservative view, assuming that the wealth growth rates of African Americans will outpace white wealth growth at its current clip of 3 percent to .8 percent annually, said McKinsey. If the gap widens, however, with white wealth growing at a faster rate than black wealth instead, it could end up costing the U.S. $1.5 trillion or 6 percent of GDP according to the firm."

The Amazing Resiliency of White Wealth - CityLab

This is the cost of your racism.

It's the cost of YOUR racism
Your racism keeps blacks on the democrat plantation
Pretty pathetic if you're to lazy to make your own wealth don't whine because others have it.

No, that's the cost of your racism. There is no democratic plantation. If we blacks want to return to the plantation we'll join the republican party. Your comments show your ignorance.

Your comments show your ignorance.

Now you two have something in common.

 

[Lastamender]

Oprah Winfrey is a billionnaire, IM2. She worked hard for her money, and she made peace with all races of people. Nobody is like her. She makes good investments, and she benefits whoever calls on her to help.
You have to believe in yourself when you're young. And you have to jump through a lot of hoops to succeed in life. There are plenty of black men who've succeeded also. Robert F. Smith made a billion dollars, too, when he was young, because he showed tenacity to the tasks he was given and moved up to start investing his wealth to 5x his first billion. Michael Jordan is twice over a billionnaire, because he invested his superstar paycheck quite well. If you ever watched him play basketball, you'd know he was a genius in every way, and he broke records wherever he went, and whatever he did.

America is for everybody who works hard. And America is for you.

America’s Black Billionaires: The Richest African Americans in 2019 - Black Enterprise

I know how many blacks are millionaires and billionaires and that number is 36,000 out of 47.6 million. The ignorant defense of Oprah and Michael Jordan is not what I am going to listen to. Blacks have always worked hard and I certainly won't be listening to lectures from a person that married into mobility. From the ages of 28 - 52, I helped build and develop 3 organizations. Almost 7 years ago, I retired at 52 and now work on personal projects on my time. I know what hard work is and I know what America has. And what it has is about 1/5 of it's population running their mouths off trying to tell others that the America they experience doesn't exist. But it does and as we enter the 3rd decade of the 21st century, it's time those like you stopped lying to yourselves.

In order to reach true equality in a capitalist system all must have equal control of capital, especially in our own communities. Blacks have an economy of 1.3 trillion dollars. According to the U.S. Census Bureau, there are 2.6 million Black-owned business in the United States, compared to 22.6 million white-owned businesses. Blacks/African Americans, who make up more than 13% of the U.S. population, only own about 7% of all the businesses in the country, and generate only about 0.5% of total receipts. Out of those 2.6 million businesses, 95 percent were sole proprietorships with no hired employees. 109,000 of these businesses were able to hire employees. Those businesses hired over 975,000 people.

It is apparent that such numbers need to increase. While much is made about foreign trade deficits, Americans face internal trade deficits of our own making.

Racists are very good at instructing everyone as to the percentage of blacks in the population. And they reach hard to extrapolate exaggerated numbers about crime, often conflating murder with total crime. But somehow and really it's done on purpose because we are dealing with racists, are other important statistical data is not discussed.

Blacks are 13 percent of the American population but have 2.6 percent of the wealth. This did not happen because of laziness. Indeed, the historical records shows that blacks have consistently worked as hard or harder than whites and for far less money, including over 230 years for free. Equality in a capitalist system means we have 13 percent of the wealth. We have 1/5 the wealth we should have in proportion to our population.

Again, let me break down what white racism has done to this nation. While certain whites gloat about how successful they have been as a race and lecture others about how they have failed, facts they have created the problems being complained about today. If not for racism everyone would be better off economically, fewer people would be on the public dime, tax revenues would increase at every level, we’d have a smaller deficit, or possibly no national deficit or debt. Crime would be reduced dramatically, unemployment very well would be less than 1 percent. More than likely the increased tax revenue could help provide free education and health care to all American citizens. After reading study after study shoes us that virtually every economic problem we have stems from the racism that has denied people of color opportunity.

Mr. IM2, you have anger. I can't do anything about it. I have a neighbor next door, and if he asked for something reasonable, I would furnish it. But he doesn't have any expectations of me, nor I of him. Everybody's neighbors, but if we expect something different because one is white skinned and one is of color, we're working against something called brotherhood, because not paying attention to skin color and believing we are neighbors makes us able to be friends.

But you can't be friends with an angry hothead, nor can you be of any use to one, nor should you be. If I had a friend as angry as you, I'd try to get them to seek a special person known as a psychologist (not a psychiatrist). A psychologist is one who works with people to change anger into a neutral force so that the person can interact without anger among his fellow citizens, whether they are male or female, black or white, protestant or Jew or Muslim or Mormon or Baptist or any other religious affiliation.

I'm not a psychologist, but surely rather than living you entire life out in a rage against everybody else, you could do yourself a favor and request a psychologist run you through his program to help you see life events from perspectives of those you feel such annoyance and anger at you trade ugly words with them as a habit that it's up to you to keep or to break as your chosen lifestyle.

I wish you well on your communications so that you will someday feel not so angry you must make mountains out of what others consider to be molehills. You'll be a lot happier when you see an antbed as a molehill without making them mad or they'll bite. Nothing but good wishes, sir. And bon voyage. Happy trails.

If I am angry, I have right to be. I am not a psychiatrist, but the crap you post here shows that you are unbalanced. We are to pretend racism is a part of the past even as we see it happening now. And we are not supposed to be angry about it's continuance , while whites can make things up to be mad about and everybody is supposed to be mad. You're a loony tune. Racism is Mount Everest it, is not a molehill. Turn black and live, then come try lecturing me with your lunacy.

If being Black means I am going to be miserable, paranoid, and up to my neck in self pity, I'll pass.

Being black has nothing to do with those things. We aren't the ones crying about a discrimination that's not happening. Whites like you are.

You are right, you are crying about absolutely everything.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

So once gain we see the usual suspects saying the usual things. One of you has tried playing the MLK card. This card has never been played on the other thousand threads made in this forum by whites. But since you want to play stupid, it's time to break out the chalkboard.

"It will end up costing the U.S. economy as much as $1 trillion between now and 2028 for the nation to maintain its longstanding black-white racial wealth gap, according to a report released this month from the global consultancy firm McKinsey & Company. That will be roughly 4 percent of the United States GDP in 2028—just the conservative view, assuming that the wealth growth rates of African Americans will outpace white wealth growth at its current clip of 3 percent to .8 percent annually, said McKinsey. If the gap widens, however, with white wealth growing at a faster rate than black wealth instead, it could end up costing the U.S. $1.5 trillion or 6 percent of GDP according to the firm."

The Amazing Resiliency of White Wealth - CityLab

This is the cost of your racism.

It's the cost of YOUR racism
Your racism keeps blacks on the democrat plantation
Pretty pathetic if you're to lazy to make your own wealth don't whine because others have it.

No, that's the cost of your racism. There is no democratic plantation. If we blacks want to return to the plantation we'll join the republican party. Your comments show your ignorance.

You're not only a racist but a liar

 

[bigrebnc1775]

So once gain we see the usual suspects saying the usual things. One of you has tried playing the MLK card. This card has never been played on the other thousand threads made in this forum by whites. But since you want to play stupid, it's time to break out the chalkboard.

"It will end up costing the U.S. economy as much as $1 trillion between now and 2028 for the nation to maintain its longstanding black-white racial wealth gap, according to a report released this month from the global consultancy firm McKinsey & Company. That will be roughly 4 percent of the United States GDP in 2028—just the conservative view, assuming that the wealth growth rates of African Americans will outpace white wealth growth at its current clip of 3 percent to .8 percent annually, said McKinsey. If the gap widens, however, with white wealth growing at a faster rate than black wealth instead, it could end up costing the U.S. $1.5 trillion or 6 percent of GDP according to the firm."

The Amazing Resiliency of White Wealth - CityLab

This is the cost of your racism.

It's the cost of YOUR racism
Your racism keeps blacks on the democrat plantation
Pretty pathetic if you're to lazy to make your own wealth don't whine because others have it.

No, that's the cost of your racism. There is no democratic plantation. If we blacks want to return to the plantation we'll join the republican party. Your comments show your ignorance.

Your comments show your ignorance.

Now you two have something in common.

I have nothing in common with that racist

 

[bigrebnc1775]

My question is why can’t IM2 stop talking about race?

I guess he can't let go.

My neighbors who are black people, they have good jobs and own their houses, have good cars and go a week or two for vacations each year. They never talk about race, they didn't make their lives miserable wasting their time thinking about race.

At this point, even many illegal immigrants are capable to succeed and make good income and even business. While I have witnessed as well that people who think about the past they can't progress because they can't concentrate in their future.

When the OP can't respond that today race is not an issue, then he transforms himself from hysterical to historical, and he starts mentioning the crude treatment against his ancestors in the past.

Today's people are not guilty of what their ancestors did or didn't do.

And race is not an issue for people who want to live and progress in today's society.

The OP has an agenda which is not working anymore. Society has changed a lot, and you can notice in the news that people who suffers consequences because "the color of their skin" are mostly low income people, who can't progress because they claim society owes them, I don't have any idea what society owes to them, but such is their claim.

Perhaps that is the reason they refuse to work waiting for a check coming for free, and the check never arrives and they keep living in poverty generation after generation? If this is what is happening, then my neighbors who are black are the smarten between black people, because they don't wait for the free check... they work for earn it instead.

The only agenda that's not working is yours. And it's because the facts don't support the lie you tell yourself. Anecdotes about that 1 black family or that 1 black you know at work doesn't change the facts.

White Americans’ Hold on Wealth Is Old, Deep, and Nearly Unshakeable
Brentin Mock
September 3, 2019

White families quickly recuperated financial losses after the Civil War, and then created a Jim Crow credit system to bring more white families into money.

It will end up costing the U.S. economy as much as $1 trillion between now and 2028 for the nation to maintain its longstanding black-white racial wealth gap, according to a report released this month from the global consultancy firm McKinsey & Company. That will be roughly 4 percent of the United States GDP in 2028—just the conservative view, assuming that the wealth growth rates of African Americans will outpace white wealth growth at its current clip of 3 percent to .8 percent annually, said McKinsey. If the gap widens, however, with white wealth growing at a faster rate than black wealth instead, it could end up costing the U.S. $1.5 trillion or 6 percent of GDP according to the firm.

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“Despite the progress black families have made in civic and economic life since the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, they face systemic and cumulative barriers on the road to wealth building due to discrimination, poverty, and a shortage of social connections,” reads the report, “as both mechanisms and results of racial economic inequity.”

Crucial to understanding how to close that gap—such that it can actually be closed—is grappling with how it was created in the first place. The McKinsey report identifies four components that perpetuate this gap—family wealth, family income, family savings, and community context (a community’s collective public and private assets). Black families have not been able to build wealth due to “unmet needs and obstacles” across these four dimensions.

That’s the deficit-lens on the problem as it pertains to black families. But it’s worth looking at how each of those components also played a huge role in boosting white families’ financial standing to begin with. The wealth, income, and savings that white families accumulated during slavery supplied the economic thew that catapulted them into elite affluent status during the country’s first two centuries of existence. But it was community context and creative credit machinations that helped white families maintain that status over the ensuing two centuries, putting into doubt whether a closure of the black-white racial wealth gap is even possible given these deeply entrenched advantages.
The Amazing Resiliency of White Wealth - CityLab

How can you equalize the wealth gap when blacks only make up around 13% of America's population?

 

[Lastamender]

So once gain we see the usual suspects saying the usual things. One of you has tried playing the MLK card. This card has never been played on the other thousand threads made in this forum by whites. But since you want to play stupid, it's time to break out the chalkboard.

"It will end up costing the U.S. economy as much as $1 trillion between now and 2028 for the nation to maintain its longstanding black-white racial wealth gap, according to a report released this month from the global consultancy firm McKinsey & Company. That will be roughly 4 percent of the United States GDP in 2028—just the conservative view, assuming that the wealth growth rates of African Americans will outpace white wealth growth at its current clip of 3 percent to .8 percent annually, said McKinsey. If the gap widens, however, with white wealth growing at a faster rate than black wealth instead, it could end up costing the U.S. $1.5 trillion or 6 percent of GDP according to the firm."

The Amazing Resiliency of White Wealth - CityLab

This is the cost of your racism.

It's the cost of YOUR racism
Your racism keeps blacks on the democrat plantation
Pretty pathetic if you're to lazy to make your own wealth don't whine because others have it.

No, that's the cost of your racism. There is no democratic plantation. If we blacks want to return to the plantation we'll join the republican party. Your comments show your ignorance.

Your comments show your ignorance.

Now you two have something in common.

I have nothing in common with that racist

It was meant for him much more than you. Now, he might say that is racist. Just letting him no he is no stranger to ignorance.

 

[LTCArmyRet]

USMB is a fine example of this.

Why White People Don’t Like to Talk About Race
March 26, 2015 by Barnabas Piper

Most white people want no part of the conversation about race. We don’t want it with our baristas, our neighbors, our spouses, or anyone really. We don’t quite know what do each February during Black History Month. For most white people that’s Martin Luther King Jr. awareness month with a nod to Harriet Tubman and not much sense of any other aspect of black history or culture. The ongoing tensions surrounding the deaths of Michael Brown, Eric Garner, Tamir Rice, Alton Sterling, Philando Castile, and so many other incidents are more than most of us know what to do with (if we want anything to do with them at all).

Most of us grew up unaffected by the racial divide, or at least unaware of how it affected us. Now, though, the divide has been brought to us and we’re at a loss. We don’t want that conversation. We’re uncomfortable with it. Our responses tend to fall into two main groups.

Group 1: Don’t want to talk about race

This first group contains the bigots and racists. They don’t want to talk about race (or maybe they do for all the wrong reasons) because they want to be the only race. This bunch deserves a whole lot of ink, most of it not very pleasant, and none of it here. They are despicable products of unfortunate upbringings.

The majority of this group, though, is not outright bigoted. Instead they are outright ignorant and therefore subtly prejudiced. They are unexposed to minority cultures (not just black, but all non-white cultures) and unaware of the complexities, difficulties, and hurts there. Really most of white America is part of, or has been part of, this group. They are the comfortable majority, and thus they determine the status quo. Life is good, so why rock the boat? It’s not that they don’t “care” about the needs of others — you won’t find a more cause-oriented bunch of advocates than young, privileged white people — but those needs never really intersect with their lives at a personal and relational level. And they’re happy to keep it that way because any other way is uncomfortable and intimidating. It’s a passive aggressive approach to racial separation, and one most don’t even realize they’re participating in. Their ignorance is blindness they mistake for bliss.

Group 2: Don’t know how to talk about race

Why White People Don't Like to Talk About Race

Most here are not the blissfully ignorant. You are racists. Blacks here have been called all kinds of racist names and all kinds of overtly racist opinion has been spoken. Blissful ignorance is not why a thread about black names has been created at least 2 times sine I've actively started participating here. The same goes for other things.

Now watch the racism you will see from people who are going to complain. They never complain when a thread by a white person denigrating blacks is posted. Only when a thread about whites is made do they suddenly become colorblind.

go away race baiter! You are the epitome of what you say you despise, lumping an entire group of people based on their skin color

 

[Lastamender]

My question is why can’t IM2 stop talking about race?

I guess he can't let go.

My neighbors who are black people, they have good jobs and own their houses, have good cars and go a week or two for vacations each year. They never talk about race, they didn't make their lives miserable wasting their time thinking about race.

At this point, even many illegal immigrants are capable to succeed and make good income and even business. While I have witnessed as well that people who think about the past they can't progress because they can't concentrate in their future.

When the OP can't respond that today race is not an issue, then he transforms himself from hysterical to historical, and he starts mentioning the crude treatment against his ancestors in the past.

Today's people are not guilty of what their ancestors did or didn't do.

And race is not an issue for people who want to live and progress in today's society.

The OP has an agenda which is not working anymore. Society has changed a lot, and you can notice in the news that people who suffers consequences because "the color of their skin" are mostly low income people, who can't progress because they claim society owes them, I don't have any idea what society owes to them, but such is their claim.

Perhaps that is the reason they refuse to work waiting for a check coming for free, and the check never arrives and they keep living in poverty generation after generation? If this is what is happening, then my neighbors who are black are the smarten between black people, because they don't wait for the free check... they work for earn it instead.

The only agenda that's not working is yours. And it's because the facts don't support the lie you tell yourself. Anecdotes about that 1 black family or that 1 black you know at work doesn't change the facts.

White Americans’ Hold on Wealth Is Old, Deep, and Nearly Unshakeable
Brentin Mock
September 3, 2019

White families quickly recuperated financial losses after the Civil War, and then created a Jim Crow credit system to bring more white families into money.

It will end up costing the U.S. economy as much as $1 trillion between now and 2028 for the nation to maintain its longstanding black-white racial wealth gap, according to a report released this month from the global consultancy firm McKinsey & Company. That will be roughly 4 percent of the United States GDP in 2028—just the conservative view, assuming that the wealth growth rates of African Americans will outpace white wealth growth at its current clip of 3 percent to .8 percent annually, said McKinsey. If the gap widens, however, with white wealth growing at a faster rate than black wealth instead, it could end up costing the U.S. $1.5 trillion or 6 percent of GDP according to the firm.

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“Despite the progress black families have made in civic and economic life since the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, they face systemic and cumulative barriers on the road to wealth building due to discrimination, poverty, and a shortage of social connections,” reads the report, “as both mechanisms and results of racial economic inequity.”

Crucial to understanding how to close that gap—such that it can actually be closed—is grappling with how it was created in the first place. The McKinsey report identifies four components that perpetuate this gap—family wealth, family income, family savings, and community context (a community’s collective public and private assets). Black families have not been able to build wealth due to “unmet needs and obstacles” across these four dimensions.

That’s the deficit-lens on the problem as it pertains to black families. But it’s worth looking at how each of those components also played a huge role in boosting white families’ financial standing to begin with. The wealth, income, and savings that white families accumulated during slavery supplied the economic thew that catapulted them into elite affluent status during the country’s first two centuries of existence. But it was community context and creative credit machinations that helped white families maintain that status over the ensuing two centuries, putting into doubt whether a closure of the black-white racial wealth gap is even possible given these deeply entrenched advantages.
The Amazing Resiliency of White Wealth - CityLab

How can you equalize the wealth gap when blacks only make up around 13% of America's population?

And they stay at that percentage because of abortions, sponsored by the Democrats.