Why White People Don’t Like to Talk About Race

[IM2]

We have the right to have our own opinion if you don't like it too bad for you.

Yes. This is exactly where civil rights jumped the shark. It failed to recognize that deciding for ourselves who we like and don't like, who we associated with and who we avoid - no matter what the reasons - is a fundamental human right.

Equal rights under the law is the core if liberal democracy. But mandating respect is overreach.

Especially since there is in the air like an infamous perfume that it is always the white people the bad guys at least for most lefties

 

[boedicca]

We have the right to have our own opinion if you don't like it too bad for you.

Yes. This is exactly where civil rights jumped the shark. It failed to recognize that deciding for ourselves who we like and don't like, who we associated with and who we avoid - no matter what the reasons - is a fundamental human right.

Equal rights under the law is the core if liberal democracy. But mandating respect is overreach.

Especially since there is in the air like an infamous perfume that it is always the white people the bad guys at least for most lefties

White ppl are fking worshipped on this planet.

Get the fk out my face.

thats racist by boedicca

thats racist by boedicca

 

[IM2]

Hello, ChemEngineer. Do you have evidence tending to support your claim about men abandoning women?

Look it up yourself. To the extent that you so clearly challenge the obvious, anything I present in evidence you would likewise dismiss with some excuse or other. So find it yourself. It's common knowledge. Blacks grow up without fathers all to often, and as a result, are disproportionately involved in crime, go to prison, grow up poor and don't get even a high school diploma.

Become enlightened, YouTube search terms: "mental health illness black community"

Peace.

You become enlightened. You have a very long way to go to catch up with me.

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Maybe you become enlightened.

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White juveniles comprised 48.8 percent of all juveniles arrested for violent crimes, and Black or African American juveniles accounted for 48.4 percent of juveniles arrested for violent crimes.White juveniles comprised 55.0 percent of all juveniles arrested for property crimes.

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White juveniles comprised 55.5 percent of juveniles arrested for aggravated assault and 56.3 percent of juveniles arrested for larceny-theft.

Opinion | Black Dads Are Doing Best of All

Whites always look for excuses to claim superiority. The disproportionate excuse is one of them. Black families with dad at home earn less that similar white families when education and job experience are the same. There is a direct correlation between being poor and crime, yet whites commit almost triple the crime and don't face the same obstacles. There ain't no black folk using affluenza as an excuse for killing people.

 

[IM2]

Yes. This is exactly where civil rights jumped the shark. It failed to recognize that deciding for ourselves who we like and don't like, who we associated with and who we avoid - no matter what the reasons - is a fundamental human right.

Equal rights under the law is the core if liberal democracy. But mandating respect is overreach.

Especially since there is in the air like an infamous perfume that it is always the white people the bad guys at least for most lefties

White ppl are fking worshipped on this planet.

Get the fk out my face.

thats racist by boedicca

thats racist by boedicca

 

[boedicca]

Especially since there is in the air like an infamous perfume that it is always the white people the bad guys at least for most lefties

White ppl are fking worshipped on this planet.

Get the fk out my face.

thats racist by boedicca

thats racist by boedicca

thats racist by boedicca

 

[Dalia]

We have the right to have our own opinion if you don't like it too bad for you.

Yes. This is exactly where civil rights jumped the shark. It failed to recognize that deciding for ourselves who we like and don't like, who we associated with and who we avoid - no matter what the reasons - is a fundamental human right.

Equal rights under the law is the core if liberal democracy. But mandating respect is overreach.

Especially since there is in the air like an infamous perfume that it is always the white people the bad guys at least for most lefties

Some of my friends...

 

[22lcidw]

We have the right to have our own opinion if you don't like it too bad for you.

Yes. This is exactly where civil rights jumped the shark. It failed to recognize that deciding for ourselves who we like and don't like, who we associated with and who we avoid - no matter what the reasons - is a fundamental human right.

Equal rights under the law is the core if liberal democracy. But mandating respect is overreach.

Especially since there is in the air like an infamous perfume that it is always the white people the bad guys at least for most lefties

Don't go there!

 

[flacaltenn]

Look at your last 2 sentences for an example. You're telling me that police misconduct and judicial reform are national issues that transcend race when professionals in the field say racial bias is a problem. Then when you get shown that it does, you dismiss it.

As long as you continue to ignore that police misconduct, prosecutorial abuses and justice reform affects ALL colors -- you can call everyone racist for ignoring it.

It's NOT JUST a black issue.. It's part of our eroding Civil Liberties.. Civil Rights is small subset of Civil Liberties. I know that just blows your brainwashed mind. But its true..

I just had my terminally ill bro-in-law sentenced to 18 months for growing a few pot plants. The judge was told he had only 18 months to live.. That state had a HORRENDOUS medical bill for his care because the judge was a vicious anti-pot fanatic...

Think I look at justice reform as RACIAL ISSUE????

 

[flacaltenn]

A recent comment by Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia—who said black college students are “pushed into schools that are too advanced for them” and would benefit from a “slower track”—is an extreme example of the racial bias that permeates American institutions, and the routine biased decision making around the allocation of resources and the dispensation of justice. "

This is opinion... The facts ARE in Scalia's favor.. The top schools have quotas to fill and they really don't CARE if that places folks into slots where they suffer from being unprepared for the rigors of Ivy League education..

The less prestigious schools put more effort into remedial work for students from underprivileged HSchools.. That's just a fact. Their chances of matriculating are MUCH HIGHER in those schools and in the end, they get similar courses towards their majors..

The other fact is -- TESTING -- which you also are trying to get branded as racist -- is a key element to getting students into appropriate schools regardless of their color.. And as long as you reject testing -- you have no business whining about how colleges choose students and vice versa..

 

[Jackson]

We have the right to have our own opinion if you don't like it too bad for you.

Yes. This is exactly where civil rights jumped the shark. It failed to recognize that deciding for ourselves who we like and don't like, who we associated with and who we avoid - no matter what the reasons - is a fundamental human right.

Equal rights under the law is the core if liberal democracy. But mandating respect is overreach.

Especially since there is in the air like an infamous perfume that it is always the white people the bad guys at least for most lefties

White ppl are fking worshipped on this planet.

Get the fk out my face.

AND YOU WONDER WHY WHITE PEOPLE DON'T LIKE TO TALK ABOUT RACE!!!!!

 

[IM2]

Look at your last 2 sentences for an example. You're telling me that police misconduct and judicial reform are national issues that transcend race when professionals in the field say racial bias is a problem. Then when you get shown that it does, you dismiss it.

As long as you continue to ignore that police misconduct, prosecutorial abuses and justice reform affects ALL colors -- you can call everyone racist for ignoring it.

It's NOT JUST a black issue.. It's part of our eroding Civil Liberties.. Civil Rights is small subset of Civil Liberties. I know that just blows your brainwashed mind. But its true..

I just had my terminally ill bro-in-law sentenced to 18 months for growing a few pot plants. The judge was told he had only 18 months to live.. That state had a HORRENDOUS medical bill for his care because the judge was a vicious anti-pot fanatic...

Think I look at justice reform as RACIAL ISSUE????

Flacaltenn, despite how YOU think, based on anecdotes, people in the justice system recognize that racism is a problem. The only one here brainwashed is you.

 

[Unkotare]

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The less prestigious schools put more effort into remedial work for students from underprivileged HSchools.. That's just a fact. Their chances of matriculating are MUCH HIGHER in those schools and in the end, they get similar courses towards their majors.. .....

Off topic, but "matriculate" means to enter the university, not graduate from it.

 

[MaryL]

USMB is a fine example of this.

Why White People Don’t Like to Talk About Race
March 26, 2015 by Barnabas Piper

Most white people want no part of the conversation about race. We don’t want it with our baristas, our neighbors, our spouses, or anyone really. We don’t quite know what do each February during Black History Month. For most white people that’s Martin Luther King Jr. awareness month with a nod to Harriet Tubman and not much sense of any other aspect of black history or culture. The ongoing tensions surrounding the deaths of Michael Brown, Eric Garner, Tamir Rice, Alton Sterling, Philando Castile, and so many other incidents are more than most of us know what to do with (if we want anything to do with them at all).

Most of us grew up unaffected by the racial divide, or at least unaware of how it affected us. Now, though, the divide has been brought to us and we’re at a loss. We don’t want that conversation. We’re uncomfortable with it. Our responses tend to fall into two main groups.

Group 1: Don’t want to talk about race

This first group contains the bigots and racists. They don’t want to talk about race (or maybe they do for all the wrong reasons) because they want to be the only race. This bunch deserves a whole lot of ink, most of it not very pleasant, and none of it here. They are despicable products of unfortunate upbringings.

The majority of this group, though, is not outright bigoted. Instead they are outright ignorant and therefore subtly prejudiced. They are unexposed to minority cultures (not just black, but all non-white cultures) and unaware of the complexities, difficulties, and hurts there. Really most of white America is part of, or has been part of, this group. They are the comfortable majority, and thus they determine the status quo. Life is good, so why rock the boat? It’s not that they don’t “care” about the needs of others — you won’t find a more cause-oriented bunch of advocates than young, privileged white people — but those needs never really intersect with their lives at a personal and relational level. And they’re happy to keep it that way because any other way is uncomfortable and intimidating. It’s a passive aggressive approach to racial separation, and one most don’t even realize they’re participating in. Their ignorance is blindness they mistake for bliss.

Group 2: Don’t know how to talk about race

Why White People Don't Like to Talk About Race

Most here are not the blissfully ignorant. You are racists. Blacks here have been called all kinds of racist names and all kinds of overtly racist opinion has been spoken. Blissful ignorance is not why a thread about black names has been created at least 2 times sine I've actively started participating here. The same goes for other things.

Now watch the racism you will see from people who are going to complain. They never complain when a thread by a white person denigrating blacks is posted. Only when a thread about whites is made do they suddenly become colorblind.

Yeah, lets create a straw man to bash. Whites are All bad, unless they acquiesce and repent.

 

[IM2]

A recent comment by Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia—who said black college students are “pushed into schools that are too advanced for them” and would benefit from a “slower track”—is an extreme example of the racial bias that permeates American institutions, and the routine biased decision making around the allocation of resources and the dispensation of justice. "

This is opinion... The facts ARE in Scalia's favor.. The top schools have quotas to fill and they really don't CARE if that places folks into slots where they suffer from being unprepared for the rigors of Ivy League education..

The less prestigious schools put more effort into remedial work for students from underprivileged HSchools.. That's just a fact. Their chances of matriculating are MUCH HIGHER in those schools and in the end, they get similar courses towards their majors..

The other fact is -- TESTING -- which you also are trying to get branded as racist -- is a key element to getting students into appropriate schools regardless of their color.. And as long as you reject testing -- you have no business whining about how colleges choose students and vice versa..

The facts are not in Scalias favor and given recent events we don't know how long whites have cheated on these exams. I am not the one branding tests as racist, educators of all races are. That's why over 1,000 college and universities have made entrance exams option. You live in a delusional universe where racism doesn't impact anyone because you're white and don't want to see other whites as bad people.

 

[IM2]

USMB is a fine example of this.

Why White People Don’t Like to Talk About Race
March 26, 2015 by Barnabas Piper

Most white people want no part of the conversation about race. We don’t want it with our baristas, our neighbors, our spouses, or anyone really. We don’t quite know what do each February during Black History Month. For most white people that’s Martin Luther King Jr. awareness month with a nod to Harriet Tubman and not much sense of any other aspect of black history or culture. The ongoing tensions surrounding the deaths of Michael Brown, Eric Garner, Tamir Rice, Alton Sterling, Philando Castile, and so many other incidents are more than most of us know what to do with (if we want anything to do with them at all).

Most of us grew up unaffected by the racial divide, or at least unaware of how it affected us. Now, though, the divide has been brought to us and we’re at a loss. We don’t want that conversation. We’re uncomfortable with it. Our responses tend to fall into two main groups.

Group 1: Don’t want to talk about race

This first group contains the bigots and racists. They don’t want to talk about race (or maybe they do for all the wrong reasons) because they want to be the only race. This bunch deserves a whole lot of ink, most of it not very pleasant, and none of it here. They are despicable products of unfortunate upbringings.

The majority of this group, though, is not outright bigoted. Instead they are outright ignorant and therefore subtly prejudiced. They are unexposed to minority cultures (not just black, but all non-white cultures) and unaware of the complexities, difficulties, and hurts there. Really most of white America is part of, or has been part of, this group. They are the comfortable majority, and thus they determine the status quo. Life is good, so why rock the boat? It’s not that they don’t “care” about the needs of others — you won’t find a more cause-oriented bunch of advocates than young, privileged white people — but those needs never really intersect with their lives at a personal and relational level. And they’re happy to keep it that way because any other way is uncomfortable and intimidating. It’s a passive aggressive approach to racial separation, and one most don’t even realize they’re participating in. Their ignorance is blindness they mistake for bliss.

Group 2: Don’t know how to talk about race

Why White People Don't Like to Talk About Race

Most here are not the blissfully ignorant. You are racists. Blacks here have been called all kinds of racist names and all kinds of overtly racist opinion has been spoken. Blissful ignorance is not why a thread about black names has been created at least 2 times sine I've actively started participating here. The same goes for other things.

Now watch the racism you will see from people who are going to complain. They never complain when a thread by a white person denigrating blacks is posted. Only when a thread about whites is made do they suddenly become colorblind.

Yeah, lets create a straw man to bash. Whites are All bad, unless they acquiesce and repent.

 

[Jackson]

...

The less prestigious schools put more effort into remedial work for students from underprivileged HSchools.. That's just a fact. Their chances of matriculating are MUCH HIGHER in those schools and in the end, they get similar courses towards their majors.. .....

Off topic, but "matriculate" means to enter the university, not graduate from it.

He used the word properly. The chances of matriculating (entering, being admitted, etc,) are much higher in those schools, and in the end, they get similar courses towards their majors.

 

[Jackson]

USMB is a fine example of this.

Why White People Don’t Like to Talk About Race
March 26, 2015 by Barnabas Piper

Most white people want no part of the conversation about race. We don’t want it with our baristas, our neighbors, our spouses, or anyone really. We don’t quite know what do each February during Black History Month. For most white people that’s Martin Luther King Jr. awareness month with a nod to Harriet Tubman and not much sense of any other aspect of black history or culture. The ongoing tensions surrounding the deaths of Michael Brown, Eric Garner, Tamir Rice, Alton Sterling, Philando Castile, and so many other incidents are more than most of us know what to do with (if we want anything to do with them at all).

Most of us grew up unaffected by the racial divide, or at least unaware of how it affected us. Now, though, the divide has been brought to us and we’re at a loss. We don’t want that conversation. We’re uncomfortable with it. Our responses tend to fall into two main groups.

Group 1: Don’t want to talk about race

This first group contains the bigots and racists. They don’t want to talk about race (or maybe they do for all the wrong reasons) because they want to be the only race. This bunch deserves a whole lot of ink, most of it not very pleasant, and none of it here. They are despicable products of unfortunate upbringings.

The majority of this group, though, is not outright bigoted. Instead they are outright ignorant and therefore subtly prejudiced. They are unexposed to minority cultures (not just black, but all non-white cultures) and unaware of the complexities, difficulties, and hurts there. Really most of white America is part of, or has been part of, this group. They are the comfortable majority, and thus they determine the status quo. Life is good, so why rock the boat? It’s not that they don’t “care” about the needs of others — you won’t find a more cause-oriented bunch of advocates than young, privileged white people — but those needs never really intersect with their lives at a personal and relational level. And they’re happy to keep it that way because any other way is uncomfortable and intimidating. It’s a passive aggressive approach to racial separation, and one most don’t even realize they’re participating in. Their ignorance is blindness they mistake for bliss.

Group 2: Don’t know how to talk about race

Why White People Don't Like to Talk About Race

Most here are not the blissfully ignorant. You are racists. Blacks here have been called all kinds of racist names and all kinds of overtly racist opinion has been spoken. Blissful ignorance is not why a thread about black names has been created at least 2 times sine I've actively started participating here. The same goes for other things.

Now watch the racism you will see from people who are going to complain. They never complain when a thread by a white person denigrating blacks is posted. Only when a thread about whites is made do they suddenly become colorblind.

Yeah, lets create a straw man to bash. Whites are All bad, unless they acquiesce and repent.

You know IM2...He can't discuss anything except race relations and that's if all whites are bad and people of color are good. That's about the level of his thinking, sorry to say.

 

[Unkotare]

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The less prestigious schools put more effort into remedial work for students from underprivileged HSchools.. That's just a fact. Their chances of matriculating are MUCH HIGHER in those schools and in the end, they get similar courses towards their majors.. .....

Off topic, but "matriculate" means to enter the university, not graduate from it.

He used the word properly. ......

Ask him. I trust him to give you an honest answer.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

USMB is a fine example of this.

Why White People Don’t Like to Talk About Race
March 26, 2015 by Barnabas Piper

Most white people want no part of the conversation about race. We don’t want it with our baristas, our neighbors, our spouses, or anyone really. We don’t quite know what do each February during Black History Month. For most white people that’s Martin Luther King Jr. awareness month with a nod to Harriet Tubman and not much sense of any other aspect of black history or culture. The ongoing tensions surrounding the deaths of Michael Brown, Eric Garner, Tamir Rice, Alton Sterling, Philando Castile, and so many other incidents are more than most of us know what to do with (if we want anything to do with them at all).

Most of us grew up unaffected by the racial divide, or at least unaware of how it affected us. Now, though, the divide has been brought to us and we’re at a loss. We don’t want that conversation. We’re uncomfortable with it. Our responses tend to fall into two main groups.

Group 1: Don’t want to talk about race

This first group contains the bigots and racists. They don’t want to talk about race (or maybe they do for all the wrong reasons) because they want to be the only race. This bunch deserves a whole lot of ink, most of it not very pleasant, and none of it here. They are despicable products of unfortunate upbringings.

The majority of this group, though, is not outright bigoted. Instead they are outright ignorant and therefore subtly prejudiced. They are unexposed to minority cultures (not just black, but all non-white cultures) and unaware of the complexities, difficulties, and hurts there. Really most of white America is part of, or has been part of, this group. They are the comfortable majority, and thus they determine the status quo. Life is good, so why rock the boat? It’s not that they don’t “care” about the needs of others — you won’t find a more cause-oriented bunch of advocates than young, privileged white people — but those needs never really intersect with their lives at a personal and relational level. And they’re happy to keep it that way because any other way is uncomfortable and intimidating. It’s a passive aggressive approach to racial separation, and one most don’t even realize they’re participating in. Their ignorance is blindness they mistake for bliss.

Group 2: Don’t know how to talk about race

Why White People Don't Like to Talk About Race

Most here are not the blissfully ignorant. You are racists. Blacks here have been called all kinds of racist names and all kinds of overtly racist opinion has been spoken. Blissful ignorance is not why a thread about black names has been created at least 2 times sine I've actively started participating here. The same goes for other things.

Now watch the racism you will see from people who are going to complain. They never complain when a thread by a white person denigrating blacks is posted. Only when a thread about whites is made do they suddenly become colorblind.

As a white guy, I love to discuss the topic of race. I'm not afraid of it. And I know how to talk about it.

Once upon a time, Hosea Williams, one of the men who was with Martin Luther King, Jr. when he was assassinated, had a tv talk show in Atlanta. It was on what they called prime cable (educational tv, aka public access.)

I appeared on Williams show once and, at the end of the season, they dropped Williams tv program. Not to brag, but Hosea didn't look too good when face to face with someone and no third party to rush to a commercial or cut off his competition.

I also know this race crap is your life. So, with the amount of paragraphs you post, it takes up the bulk of your life. It still comes back to the same thing: If you could get a better deal somewhere else, you'd pack your rags and go there.

Unlike those white people who are ignorant, brain dead, uneducated, or have been fed swill so that they have a guilt complex, I can stand proud and informed about my heritage, culture, race and ancestry.

America was founded by white Christians who saw themselves as the Israelites of the Bible. America is the New Jerusalem and we had a destiny to fulfill. Well, after years of liberalism and propaganda, the whites have been unfairly shamed about the past, misinformed, and brainwashed. You and I both know it. So, you pick a specific topic around the issue and we can discuss it.

 

[flacaltenn]

You live in a delusional universe where racism doesn't impact anyone because you're white and don't want to see other whites as bad people.

Have I ever said racism doesn't exist?? It's just that you can't fix a justice system race by race and gender by gender or by poor or rich.. MOST of the problems are systemic.. And they affect EVERYONE.. It hits blacks disproportionately because of the financial status or educational deficits or prevalence of crime in their neighborhoods...

Lots of bad nasty whites.. Can't stand bigots and haters. But -- I have to tolerate their right to express themselves. As long as they are not abusing power given to them by govt authority... Seems lefties like yourself are FAR more willing to tolerate their actions and speech when they are part of your POLITICAL alignment..

See 3 top authorities in Virginia getting complete absolution for shit that would have DOOMED any other political candidates..

So when cops shoot whites -- and that happens MORE than shooting blacks -- should I CONSIDER THAT -- a racial abuse of govt power??? Or should we all just figure out how to REDUCE the carnage???