Why Work?

[Mr Natural]

Many of the people that are on social welfare are solely because they didn't finish much more than the 6th grade. As a result they "qualify" as if the rest of us must be responsible for the results of their choice.

What would you suggest we do with them given that the decent jobs they could handle have been sent to China.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Many of the people that are on social welfare are solely because they didn't finish much more than the 6th grade. As a result they "qualify" as if the rest of us must be responsible for the results of their choice.

What would you suggest we do with them given that the decent jobs they could handle have been sent to China.

decent jobs aren't in
China anymore. The world has changed. America needs to retool and reevaluate it's education system. But we keep fighting old battles, resisting the inevitable progress we see in the trade deals...it's all about commerce and trade. We can no longer retreat into America as the big kid on the block.

 

[regent]

Does America create some of its own employment problems by offering so many children an unequal and inferior education?

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Does America create some of its own employment problems by offering so many children an unequal and inferior education?

There has NEVER been a capitalist argument or program that called for actual FULL employment. Capitalist systems figure in the unemployed and design programs liberals and conservatives get blamed for putting into effect. Who blames them? The nuts, the reactionaries, the ignorati

 

[bedowin62]

Does America create some of its own employment problems by offering so many children an unequal and inferior education?

no; of course not. there is no one education system in America you can blame the country as a whole for "offering". education systems are under the states and cities, and those are almost exclusively run by Progressives/Liberals,Democrats in this country

 

[bedowin62]

Does America create some of its own employment problems by offering so many children an unequal and inferior education?

no; of course not. there is no one education system in America you can blame the country as a whole for "offering". education systems are under the states and cities, and those are almost exclusively run by Progressives/Liberals,Democrats in this country

 

[Conservative65]

Many of the people that are on social welfare are solely because they didn't finish much more than the 6th grade. As a result they "qualify" as if the rest of us must be responsible for the results of their choice.

What would you suggest we do with them given that the decent jobs they could handle have been sent to China.

What decent job can someone with a 6th grade education do?

 

[Conservative65]

WHY WORK?

because MOST everyone does not qualify for social safety net programs?

Let me guess, like Jethro Bodine you done "grad-ge-ated" the sixth grade

Many of the people that are on social welfare are solely because they didn't finish much more than the 6th grade. As a result they "qualify" as if the rest of us must be responsible for the results of their choice.

whatever in the whacky wingnut world of white wing conservatism are you talking about?

Many people can't find a job making a decent wage because their skills are low because they quit school. As a result, when they can't support themselves, they demand taxpayers provide them that support despite their inability to do so being solely because of a choice they made. They qualify based on the means testing but why should the rest of us go with less in order that someone causing their situation be taken care of?

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

WHY WORK?

because MOST everyone does not qualify for social safety net programs?

Let me guess, like Jethro Bodine you done "grad-ge-ated" the sixth grade

Many of the people that are on social welfare are solely because they didn't finish much more than the 6th grade. As a result they "qualify" as if the rest of us must be responsible for the results of their choice.

whatever in the whacky wingnut world of white wing conservatism are you talking about?

Many people can't find a job making a decent wage because their skills are low because they quit school. As a result, when they can't support themselves, they demand taxpayers provide them that support despite their inability to do so being solely because of a choice they made. They qualify based on the means testing but why should the rest of us go with less in order that someone causing their situation be taken care of?

Low skilled jobs have moved on. Education has historically not been needed to get a good job in America. Many companies used to offer education grants and promotions to workers with education deficits.

I'm not denying educational levels need to be raised. What I'm saying is the world is rapidly changing and America is falling behind -- not because shitty jobs have moved overseas.

High end manufacturing is doing well in the USA. We need an educated manufacturing force from inside. It isn't that people drop out of school early so much as it is there are no policies and programs to put Americans onto paths to success. It is how Germany and Japan and other nations do it.

You appear to be stuck in a right wing, blame the people/worker mindset. Or am I mistaken?

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Many of the people that are on social welfare are solely because they didn't finish much more than the 6th grade. As a result they "qualify" as if the rest of us must be responsible for the results of their choice.

What would you suggest we do with them given that the decent jobs they could handle have been sent to China.

What decent job can someone with a 6th grade education do?

What decent job could that person get if they finished high school, college? You appear to be missing the forest for the trees in your quest to lay blame

 

[regent]

Does America create some of its own employment problems by offering so many children an unequal and inferior education?

no; of course not. there is no one education system in America you can blame the country as a whole for "offering". education systems are under the states and cities, and those are almost exclusively run by Progressives/Liberals,Democrats in this country

So what is your evidence that America's educational system is almost exclusively run by liberals and democrats?

 

[Conservative65]

WHY WORK?

because MOST everyone does not qualify for social safety net programs?

Let me guess, like Jethro Bodine you done "grad-ge-ated" the sixth grade

Many of the people that are on social welfare are solely because they didn't finish much more than the 6th grade. As a result they "qualify" as if the rest of us must be responsible for the results of their choice.

whatever in the whacky wingnut world of white wing conservatism are you talking about?

Many people can't find a job making a decent wage because their skills are low because they quit school. As a result, when they can't support themselves, they demand taxpayers provide them that support despite their inability to do so being solely because of a choice they made. They qualify based on the means testing but why should the rest of us go with less in order that someone causing their situation be taken care of?

Low skilled jobs have moved on. Education has historically not been needed to get a good job in America. Many companies used to offer education grants and promotions to workers with education deficits.

I'm not denying educational levels need to be raised. What I'm saying is the world is rapidly changing and America is falling behind -- not because shitty jobs have moved overseas.

High end manufacturing is doing well in the USA. We need an educated manufacturing force from inside. It isn't that people drop out of school early so much as it is there are no policies and programs to put Americans onto paths to success. It is how Germany and Japan and other nations do it.

You appear to be stuck in a right wing, blame the people/worker mindset. Or am I mistaken?

So you consider sweeping floor, emptying trash, and cleaning toilets as high skilled?

If education isn't needed to get a good job, as you say, why do so many lefties push for free college tuition so we can have qualified, educated people?

There is a path to success and it involves staying in school.

 

[bedowin62]

Does America create some of its own employment problems by offering so many children an unequal and inferior education?

no; of course not. there is no one education system in America you can blame the country as a whole for "offering". education systems are under the states and cities, and those are almost exclusively run by Progressives/Liberals,Democrats in this country

So what is your evidence that America's educational system is almost exclusively run by liberals and democrats?

which ones arent??

 

[bedowin62]

Does America create some of its own employment problems by offering so many children an unequal and inferior education?

no; of course not. there is no one education system in America you can blame the country as a whole for "offering". education systems are under the states and cities, and those are almost exclusively run by Progressives/Liberals,Democrats in this country

So what is your evidence that America's educational system is almost exclusively run by liberals and democrats?

1. largest school district in the country: New York City school system. who do you think runs that?

2. second largest school district in the country: Los Angeles, who do you think runs that?
3.third: Puerto Rico
4. Chicago, who do you think runs that????

 

[Conservative65]

Many of the people that are on social welfare are solely because they didn't finish much more than the 6th grade. As a result they "qualify" as if the rest of us must be responsible for the results of their choice.

What would you suggest we do with them given that the decent jobs they could handle have been sent to China.

What decent job can someone with a 6th grade education do?

What decent job could that person get if they finished high school, college? You appear to be missing the forest for the trees in your quest to lay blame

Plenty of them since there are many educated people that do very well financially. They're the ones you demand offset financially the bad results of poor choices people make to quit school.

If someone quits school, why should anyone but the person making the choice to quit be blamed?

 

[regent]

Does America create some of its own employment problems by offering so many children an unequal and inferior education?

no; of course not. there is no one education system in America you can blame the country as a whole for "offering". education systems are under the states and cities, and those are almost exclusively run by Progressives/Liberals,Democrats in this country

So what is your evidence that America's educational system is almost exclusively run by liberals and democrats?

1. largest school district in the country: New York City school system. who do you think runs that?

2. second largest school district in the country: Los Angeles, who do you think runs that?
3.third: Puerto Rico
4. Chicago, who do you think runs that????

Who I think runs those school districts is not evidence. Do you have evidence that liberals run the 13,000 or so school districts in the US? If so do have evidence how many districts are run by Democrats and how many by Republicans? A majority of the school board members would be evidence.

 

[bedowin62]

Does America create some of its own employment problems by offering so many children an unequal and inferior education?

no; of course not. there is no one education system in America you can blame the country as a whole for "offering". education systems are under the states and cities, and those are almost exclusively run by Progressives/Liberals,Democrats in this country

So what is your evidence that America's educational system is almost exclusively run by liberals and democrats?

1. largest school district in the country: New York City school system. who do you think runs that?

2. second largest school district in the country: Los Angeles, who do you think runs that?
3.third: Puerto Rico
4. Chicago, who do you think runs that????

Who I think runs those school districts is not evidence. Do you have evidence that liberals run the 13,000 or so school districts in the US? If so do have evidence how many districts are run by Democrats and how many by Republicans? A majority of the school board members would be evidence.

i gave you evidence the run the largest idiot. the total doesnt matter since the top 4 are bigger than a thousand other ones.
are you seriously implying there are, or even may be, a majority of Republican school board members in ANY of the largest school districts???

 

[bedowin62]

How the Public Education System Has Failed Black and ...
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These failed, inner-city schools are run entirely by Democrats and ... Progressives claim that the major problem afflicting U.S. public schools is a lack of funding

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

No, whining comes from those who demand someone else support them. I can't whine about wanting to keep something that's already mine.

Wrong. You are whining. The law says your tax is X%. So that money is not yours.

All Conservatives do is whine about taxes. And mostly it's whining about the tax that the fat cats have to pay. As if you'll ever be a fat cat. LOL.

I earned it. Seems you think some piece of shit like yourself getting a portion of it means something you didn't earn is yours.

Just suggest that something someone didn't earn be taken away and you'll see whining. You're confused thinking someone that earned it is wrong to want to keep it while someone that didn't is owed a portion of it.

Should military spending be cut in your opinion?

Hell yeah. Military spending is mostly about enriching fat cats at Lockheed, Monsonato, DuPont, and Haliburton not national defense.

Using your thought process, the law says that the current military spending is $X. Too fucking bad if you don't like it and that's using YOUR way of thinking. As predicted, it's OK and the law when it's something you support but wrong if you don't.

By the way, the Constitution delegates authority to spend on the military. Not one word in it mentions food stamps, WIC , MediCAID, healthcare, etc. I support what the Constitution actually says. You support only what you want it to say.

Maybe that's because there was no such thing as food stamps, WIC , MediCAID then. However, "provide for the general welfare" is in the constitution.

Yeah, but 'Provide welfare" isn't.

 

[bedowin62]

Cheated: Sham Education for Minority Students in Dem-Run ...
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Feb 6, 2013 - Another Democratic stronghold, another wasteland of public schooling. ... some of the nation's worst (and biggest spending) school districts. ... adverse impact on African American and Hispanic students, and on students with disabilities." ... On the other hand, the Philadelphia School District (PSD) presents