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Who were put in power by the will of the people around 62% Of the people
Hitler was democratically elected. Hamas is democratically elected. Iranian politicians are democratically elected. These are no excuses for Bush's fuck ups.
Your comparing modern day Iraq to the third Reich? little desperate perhaps?
All things considered, we entered Iraq for all the wrong reasons. It really had nothing to do with WMD's.
Bush wanted an easy victory in the Middle East and to democratize a country there by force. By doing so, browbeat neighboring states into further democratization. Iraq was the best target. They pissed off any neighbors who would be willing to support them. The world already aligned against Saddam once. His military forces were crap. We were already in the area. NOBODY would miss Saddam's removal. Least of all the Iraqis.
By democratizing Iraq, we would draw in wannabe jihadis to the area to be met with military force. It would draw away potential attacks to Europe and the US. Iraq being easier for a Saudi, Syrian or Jordanian wannabe bomber to go to than the West. Draw them to Iraq, annhilate them and show the world how ruthless these Islamicists are to fellow Muslim civilians.
The problem was, it was done too much on the cheap. We believed far too much of our own propaganda bullshit as to what would be needed for occupation and we got lazy when it came time to providing the necessary level of commitment of forces.
That being said, Saddam had it coming. He deserved his fate. The country has toned down quite a bit since 2003-2004.
Iraqis are really taking to democracy a lot better than expected. The civil war everyone was expecting between the Kurds, Shia and Sunni has not materialized. If anything Al Queda's attempts to spark one has actually brought Iraqis closer together. They are actually looking at political solutions to the ethnic divisions. Something one does when they want to be democratic.
You can even say that the war helped spark the Arab Spring. Once it was seen that the West would be willing to support Arab democracies over longstanding cronies. You had an actual example of an Arab country with a democratic leadership, it undermined the sad myths that Arabs just weren't ready for democracy.
I do not totally agree with your thread
but it was done with class
for that I thank you
Does anyone really want to make an argument that Saddam deserved to continue to rule Iraq?
How about the fact that his even crazier sons will never rule Iraq?Does anyone really want to make an argument that Saddam deserved to continue to rule Iraq?
Does anyone really want to make an argument that Saddam deserved to continue to rule Iraq?
Maybe the people of Iraq should have answered that question?
Saddam did in fact use chemical weapons not only on the rebel Kurds but also against the Iranian troops during the war with Iran.
Bullshit
"Having looked at all of the evidence that was available to us, we find it impossible to confirm the State Department's claim that gas was used in this instance. To begin with there were never any victims produced. International relief organizations who examined the Kurds -- in Turkey where they had gone for asylum -- failed to discover any. Nor were there ever any found inside Iraq. The claim rests solely on testimony of the Kurds who had crossed the border into Turkey, where they were interviewed by staffers of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee."
STEPHEN C. PELLETIERE
US Army War College
CIA analyst
US Army War College: NO PROOF SADDAM GASSED THE KURDS!
Did your link say no victims?
The next morning Iraqi bombers appeared out of a clear blue sky. The people of Halabja were used to the successive attacks and counter-attacks of the Iraq-Iran war that had ravaged the region since September 1980. They thought they were in for the usual reprisal raid.e
You can just as easily say the Arab Spring happened DESPITE IRAQ
It's all in Sadaam's confession..........All he had to do was come clean. He himself chose to continue his charade. Chose to repeatedly kick the inspectors out. Repeatedly fire on our planes. Repeatedly rattle his sword.
And, it was chemical weapons that he used on his own people....So yes, there was every reason to believe he still had them, and would use them if necessary.
HUH?
Do you ever research anything?
What "inspectors"?
What chemicals against his own people?
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If you are this completely ignorant, why bother discussing the topic?
Did your link say no victims?
The next morning Iraqi bombers appeared out of a clear blue sky. The people of Halabja were used to the successive attacks and counter-attacks of the Iraq-Iran war that had ravaged the region since September 1980. They thought they were in for the usual reprisal raid.e
How about the fact that his even crazier sons will never rule Iraq?Does anyone really want to make an argument that Saddam deserved to continue to rule Iraq?
HUH?
Do you ever research anything?
What "inspectors"?
What chemicals against his own people?
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If you are this completely ignorant, why bother discussing the topic?
If you are so fucking knowledgeable answer the goddamned questions.
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Are you really that ignorant?Bullshit
"Having looked at all of the evidence that was available to us, we find it impossible to confirm the State Department's claim that gas was used in this instance. To begin with there were never any victims produced. International relief organizations who examined the Kurds -- in Turkey where they had gone for asylum -- failed to discover any. Nor were there ever any found inside Iraq. The claim rests solely on testimony of the Kurds who had crossed the border into Turkey, where they were interviewed by staffers of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee."
STEPHEN C. PELLETIERE
US Army War College
CIA analyst
US Army War College: NO PROOF SADDAM GASSED THE KURDS!
Did your link say no victims?
The next morning Iraqi bombers appeared out of a clear blue sky. The people of Halabja were used to the successive attacks and counter-attacks of the Iraq-Iran war that had ravaged the region since September 1980. They thought they were in for the usual reprisal raid.e
Iranians were involved in a war against Iraq, so they are not impartial.
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Did your link say no victims?
The next morning Iraqi bombers appeared out of a clear blue sky. The people of Halabja were used to the successive attacks and counter-attacks of the Iraq-Iran war that had ravaged the region since September 1980. They thought they were in for the usual reprisal raid.e
Iranians were involved in a war against Iraq, so they are not impartial.
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Are you really that ignorant?Did your link say no victims?
The next morning Iraqi bombers appeared out of a clear blue sky. The people of Halabja were used to the successive attacks and counter-attacks of the Iraq-Iran war that had ravaged the region since September 1980. They thought they were in for the usual reprisal raid.e
Iranians were involved in a war against Iraq, so they are not impartial.
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You can just as easily say the Arab Spring happened DESPITE IRAQ, or that the newly free muslims are more anti-Israel and anti-western occupation than the old dictators. It was the stupidest war ever and cost us 2-3 trillion for nothing. Add Raygun's covert advenyturist messes in the area and god knows how many lives and treasure were lost. tyvm
How about the fact that his even crazier sons will never rule Iraq?Does anyone really want to make an argument that Saddam deserved to continue to rule Iraq?
Not really an argument for keeping Saddam. He had to die sometime, letting his sons take over.
It was far better that we put all three of them in the ground.
If you are this completely ignorant, why bother discussing the topic?
If you are so fucking knowledgeable answer the goddamned questions.
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You got it backwards, shitforbrains. If you are so fucking ignorant STFU until you have some fucking idea what the fuck you are talking about.
Again dumb ass. Our people are telling us that there WAS NO EVIDENCE THAT SADDAM GASSED THE KURDS.
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