Why would anyone continue to claim the iraqi war was a failure?

It is amazing how so many left & right condemn the Iraq invasion of '03...

9/11/01 changed the landscape forever in my opinion...

This is a type of lie that Fox and the neo-cons do so well.

They mention two unrelated things and try to draw some sort of connection by including the two in a paragraph.

The landscape did change after 9/11 but not in Iraq. Iraq had nothing to do with it then and still has nothing to do with it.

Blix said the invasion was illegal and yet you try to use him to justify Bush's invasion.

Epic fail.
 
Hans Blix​' report to the United Nations provided all the evidence necessary to justify removing Saddam, even without any input from the Bush administration.
BBC News - Iraq inquiry: Former UN inspector Blix says war illegal

Hans Blix also delivered information to the United Nations that resulted in sanctions against Iraq--54 altogether, I believe, before UN action was firmed up: " UN weapons inspector Hans Blix remarked in January 2003 that "Iraq appears not to have come to a genuine acceptance—not even today—of the disarmament, which was demanded of it and which it needs to carry out to win the confidence of the world and to live in peace." Among other things he noted that 1,000 short tons (910 t) of chemical agent were unaccounted for, information on Iraq's VX nerve agent program was missing, and that "no convincing evidence" was presented for the destruction of 8,500 litres (1,900 imp gal; 2,200 US gal) of anthrax that had been declared."

Was his report was signed by him and authenticated as the truth by the UN Weapons Inspection team who found this stuff. Our troops were directed to the Kurdish villages' mass burial areas and authenticated the deaths of all those people Saddam Hussein gassed.

The man was the worst terrorist in the world in his day. Clinton and Madeline Albright backed up these allegations with our own intelligence before Bush ever became President. I read the files on Iraq in 1998 and 1999 from the State Department of Madeline Albright. The information was passed on to the Bush administration and Condoleeza Rice did her job of following the money, the munitions, and other EU authentications by checking out the facts. Saddam's case got pretty ugly, and the Secretary of State's office published and added to Mrs. Albright's info as time went on. I was very interested in Iraq, read it all. Saddam was a very, very nasty man.
 
Saddam was a very, very nasty man.

Yes he was. I can name at least 15 other leaders that are just a nasty today.

Do you think that we should invade and topple each of those? If not, why are they different than Saddam?

Do you see a time when we won't be invading a country to topple someone we think is 'nasty'? How do you plan to pay for all of these invasions anyway?

Ok, so what happens when someone thinks our President is 'nasty'? Would you advocate for them to invade to topple him or her?
Of course you wouldn't and for very valid reasons.

Psst, let me tell you a secret... those same reasons and rules apply to the US and Bush.
 
It is amazing how so many left & right condemn the Iraq invasion of '03...

9/11/01 changed the landscape forever in my opinion...

This is a type of lie that Fox and the neo-cons do so well.

They mention two unrelated things and try to draw some sort of connection by including the two in a paragraph.

The landscape did change after 9/11 but not in Iraq. Iraq had nothing to do with it then and still has nothing to do with it.

Blix said the invasion was illegal and yet you try to use him to justify Bush's invasion.

Epic fail.
Who gives a damn what Blix thinks about the damn invasion?......He's not charged with making those decisions........Maybe if his sorry ass did his dam job in the first place, we wouldn't have had to go in and RIGHTFULLY take care of the problem once and for all......And it's a damn good thing we did it before Sadaam's even crazier sons took over.

Either way, we would have no doubt had to gone in there at some point....Much better to do it against Sadaam, then against his even crazier sons.

And since you love the BBC so much, you should keep an eye out for the excellent docudrama they did, with cooperation from Sadaam's daughters, that clearly show what we would have been in for if their brothers had ever been given control of that country.

Funny how you damn lib's give Obama pass for supporting a group of rebels that we know nothing about, and has been proven that the upper echelon of those rebels includes Al Qaeda operatives.......Funny how you buy into his humanitarian crock o' shit, while Syria is wantonly murdering its citizens as we speak. Obviously, he picks and chooses his "humanitarian missions" based on political needs........Also funny how you lib's give that inept clown a pass for violating the WPR when he sent armed Predator Drones in AFTER the WPR expired......Also funny how you ignore the fact that NATO destroyed all but one hospital in a city of 2 million. It was quite sad watching a 3 year old child die the other day while FOX news was broadcasting, because there was nowhere to take the child....Talk about a fuckin' war crime.

And now, top intelligence officials are extremely concerned that Al Qaeda is making a concerted effort to obtain Qaddafi's WMD's.

So, you lib's can continue to pick and choose your BS outrage, based on your political necessity. The rest of us will continue to live in reality.
 
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It is amazing how so many left & right condemn the Iraq invasion of '03...

9/11/01 changed the landscape forever in my opinion...

This is a type of lie that Fox and the neo-cons do so well.

They mention two unrelated things and try to draw some sort of connection by including the two in a paragraph.

The landscape did change after 9/11 but not in Iraq. Iraq had nothing to do with it then and still has nothing to do with it.

Blix said the invasion was illegal and yet you try to use him to justify Bush's invasion.

Epic fail.
Who gives a damn what Blix thinks about the damn invasion?......He's not charged with making those decisions........Maybe if his sorry ass did his dam job in the first place, we wouldn't have had to go in and RIGHTFULLY take care of the problem once and for all......And it's a damn good thing we did it before Sadaam's even crazier sons took over.

Either way, we would have no doubt had to gone in there at some point....Much better to do it against Sadaam, then against his even crazier sons.

And since you love the BBC so much, you should keep an eye out for the excellent docudrama they did, with cooperation from Sadaam's daughters, that clearly show what we would have been in for if her brothers had ever been given control of that country.

Funny how you damn lib's give Obama pass for supporting a group of rebels that we know nothing about, and has been proven that the upper echelon of those rebels includes Al Qaeda operatives.......Funny how you buy into his humanitarion crock o' shit, while Syria is wantonly murdering its citizens as we speak. Obviously, he picks and chooses his "humanitarian missions" based on political needs........Also funny how you lib's give that inept clown a pass for violating the WPR when he sent armed Predator Drones in AFTER the WPR expired......Also funny how you ignore the fact that NATO destroyed all but one hospital in a city of 2 million. It was quite sad watching a 3 year old child die the other day while FOX news was broadcasting, because there was nowhere to take the child....Talk about a fuckin' war crime.

And now, top intelligence officials are extremely concerned that Al Qaeda is making a concerted effort to obtain Qaddafi's WMD's.

So, you lib's can continue to pick and choose your BS outrage, based on your political necessity. The rest of us will continue to live in reality.

^^^^^

serious load of shit/disconnect from reality
 
This is a type of lie that Fox and the neo-cons do so well.

They mention two unrelated things and try to draw some sort of connection by including the two in a paragraph.

The landscape did change after 9/11 but not in Iraq. Iraq had nothing to do with it then and still has nothing to do with it.

Blix said the invasion was illegal and yet you try to use him to justify Bush's invasion.

Epic fail.
Who gives a damn what Blix thinks about the damn invasion?......He's not charged with making those decisions........Maybe if his sorry ass did his dam job in the first place, we wouldn't have had to go in and RIGHTFULLY take care of the problem once and for all......And it's a damn good thing we did it before Sadaam's even crazier sons took over.

Either way, we would have no doubt had to gone in there at some point....Much better to do it against Sadaam, then against his even crazier sons.

And since you love the BBC so much, you should keep an eye out for the excellent docudrama they did, with cooperation from Sadaam's daughters, that clearly show what we would have been in for if her brothers had ever been given control of that country.

Funny how you damn lib's give Obama pass for supporting a group of rebels that we know nothing about, and has been proven that the upper echelon of those rebels includes Al Qaeda operatives.......Funny how you buy into his humanitarion crock o' shit, while Syria is wantonly murdering its citizens as we speak. Obviously, he picks and chooses his "humanitarian missions" based on political needs........Also funny how you lib's give that inept clown a pass for violating the WPR when he sent armed Predator Drones in AFTER the WPR expired......Also funny how you ignore the fact that NATO destroyed all but one hospital in a city of 2 million. It was quite sad watching a 3 year old child die the other day while FOX news was broadcasting, because there was nowhere to take the child....Talk about a fuckin' war crime.

And now, top intelligence officials are extremely concerned that Al Qaeda is making a concerted effort to obtain Qaddafi's WMD's.

So, you lib's can continue to pick and choose your BS outrage, based on your political necessity. The rest of us will continue to live in reality.

^^^^^

serious load of shit/disconnect from reality
Not at all.....It just drive you loons nuts that sombody has no problem laying it out there.

No problem in laying out the abject hypocrisy of the left.
 
Saddam was a very, very nasty man.
Yes he was. I can name at least 15 other leaders that are just a nasty today.

Do you think that we should invade and topple each of those? If not, why are they different than Saddam?

Do you see a time when we won't be invading a country to topple someone we think is 'nasty'? How do you plan to pay for all of these invasions anyway?

Ok, so what happens when someone thinks our President is 'nasty'? Would you advocate for them to invade to topple him or her?
Of course you wouldn't and for very valid reasons.

Psst, let me tell you a secret... those same reasons and rules apply to the US and Bush.
Fine. I'll have a list of the 15 leaders who murdered 1.5 million Arabs in less than 25 years on my desk by the morning.

Bush set free 50,000,000 Arabs during his term and deposed two virulent anti-American dictators. Right now, pulling troops out of those areas is causing the Secretary of State to post warnings to American citizens to not travel into these lands.

The ugly truth is that Obama is squandering a trillion dollars and decimating American wealth in order to push his selfish agendas of arrogant pride on how he hurt and got rid of all America's mean old wealthy people who gave for years to lift other desperate countries of cruel political circumstance.

He's gonna make goddamned sure we have zero wealthy people so he can be jackass robin hoodlum of the year in the next Sharia State - Sweden.
 
Who gives a damn what Blix thinks about the damn invasion?......He's not charged with making those decisions........Maybe if his sorry ass did his dam job in the first place, we wouldn't have had to go in and RIGHTFULLY take care of the problem once and for all......And it's a damn good thing we did it before Sadaam's even crazier sons took over.

Either way, we would have no doubt had to gone in there at some point....Much better to do it against Sadaam, then against his even crazier sons.

And since you love the BBC so much, you should keep an eye out for the excellent docudrama they did, with cooperation from Sadaam's daughters, that clearly show what we would have been in for if her brothers had ever been given control of that country.

Funny how you damn lib's give Obama pass for supporting a group of rebels that we know nothing about, and has been proven that the upper echelon of those rebels includes Al Qaeda operatives.......Funny how you buy into his humanitarion crock o' shit, while Syria is wantonly murdering its citizens as we speak. Obviously, he picks and chooses his "humanitarian missions" based on political needs........Also funny how you lib's give that inept clown a pass for violating the WPR when he sent armed Predator Drones in AFTER the WPR expired......Also funny how you ignore the fact that NATO destroyed all but one hospital in a city of 2 million. It was quite sad watching a 3 year old child die the other day while FOX news was broadcasting, because there was nowhere to take the child....Talk about a fuckin' war crime.

And now, top intelligence officials are extremely concerned that Al Qaeda is making a concerted effort to obtain Qaddafi's WMD's.

So, you lib's can continue to pick and choose your BS outrage, based on your political necessity. The rest of us will continue to live in reality.

^^^^^

serious load of shit/disconnect from reality
Not at all.....It just drive you loons nuts that sombody has no problem laying it out there.

No problem in laying out the abject hypocrisy of the left.

which hypocrisy would that be, mouthbreather?
 
"Also funny how you lib's give that inept clown a pass for violating the WPR when he sent armed Predator Drones in AFTER the WPR expired......"

Total BS, brainwashed dupe...Do you have your own news channel?
 
The ugly truth is that Obama is squandering a trillion dollars and decimating American wealth in order to push his selfish agendas of arrogant pride on how he hurt and got rid of all America's mean old wealthy people who gave for years to lift other desperate countries of cruel political circumstance.

No, that's an ugly lie and unrelated to the thread.



So now you're backing away from the topic of the thread?

Gee, I wonder why...
 
We need to finish the job, anything less will leave us vulnerable for years to come,

That seems to be the problem, doesn't it? Finishing the job. It's rather hard to finish the job when you're chasing ghosts and boogeymen. We set fire in our own living room and then invade the neighbor's house.

It depends on what your definition of "finishing" means, doesn't it? My suggestion is to make Pakistan into a mound of ruble for hiding OBL, that is quit simple, no one is going to do anything about it if we do...

The OBL rationalization for the '93 WTC Bombing and subsequently the 9/11/2001 destruction of the WTC with 3,000 innocent victims was that our troops were in Saudi Arabia, right? Yet we supported the Afghan's and helped them defeat the USSR, correct?

So after all of this, your analogy is "We set fire in our own living room and then invade the neighbor's house" that may get a few laughs in a comedy routine, in fact I am sure certain people would do just that, but I know the family's of the 9/11 tragedy and the victims of these cold cowards terrorist bombings around the world, who by the way have nothing to do with our living rooms, would find it quit the opposite...

Nagasaki & Hiroshima put a end to Japan's attempt to rule Asia...
 
We need to finish the job, anything less will leave us vulnerable for years to come,

That seems to be the problem, doesn't it? Finishing the job. It's rather hard to finish the job when you're chasing ghosts and boogeymen. We set fire in our own living room and then invade the neighbor's house.

It depends on what your definition of "finishing" means, doesn't it? My suggestion is to make Pakistan into a mound of ruble for hiding OBL, that is quit simple, no one is going to do anything about it if we do...

The OBL rationalization for the '93 WTC Bombing and subsequently the 9/11/2001 destruction of the WTC with 3,000 innocent victims was that our troops were in Saudi Arabia, right? Yet we supported the Afghan's and helped them defeat the USSR, correct?

So after all of this, your analogy is "We set fire in our own living room and then invade the neighbor's house" that may get a few laughs in a comedy routine, in fact I am sure certain people would do just that, but I know the family's of the 9/11 tragedy and the victims of these cold cowards terrorist bombings around the world, who by the way have nothing to do with our living rooms, would find it quit the opposite...

Nagasaki & Hiroshima put a end to Japan's attempt to rule Asia...

Make Pakistan into a mound of....???????
The world is such a simple place in your head isn't it?
 
The ugly truth is that Obama is squandering a trillion dollars and decimating American wealth in order to push his selfish agendas of arrogant pride on how he hurt and got rid of all America's mean old wealthy people who gave for years to lift other desperate countries of cruel political circumstance.
No, that's an ugly lie and unrelated to the thread.

So now you're backing away from the topic of the thread?

Gee, I wonder why...
No, the truth is, Obama is so desperate and determined to discredit President Bush's astonishing good of freeing 50,000,000 Arabs from despotic rulers, he is willing to pull the carpet out from underneath the Iraqis trying to fight off the old Saddam cabal by removing American troops too soon. That's why there was a State Department warning issued to American citizens. The people our troops were containing are now out to murder and kidnap any American they can lay their mitts on.

State Department Iraqi Travel Warning.

Bahamas, The 08/23/2011
Libya 08/23/2011
Somalia 08/19/2011
Chad 08/16/2011
Haiti 08/08/2011
Pakistan 08/08/2011
Syria 08/05/2011
Niger 08/05/2011
Saudi Arabia 08/05/2011
Central African Republic 07/28/2011
Colombia 07/22/2011
Congo, Democratic Republic of the 07/19/2011
Republic of South Sudan 07/12/2011
Israel, the West Bank and Gaza 06/22/2011
Sudan 06/22/2011
Cote d'Ivoire 06/16/2011
Philippines 06/14/2011
Burundi 06/01/2011
Yemen 05/25/2011
Syria 04/25/2011
Uzbekistan 04/25/2011
Mexico 04/22/2011
Burkina Faso 04/19/2011
Nigeria 04/15/2011
Iraq 04/12/2011
Lebanon 04/04/2011
Algeria 03/16/2011
Mauritania 03/11/2011
Afghanistan 03/08/2011
Mali 03/02/2011
Eritrea 02/27/2011
Pakistan 02/02/2011
Nepal 01/12/2011
Kenya 12/28/2010
Guinea 12/03/2010
Iran 10/08/2010
Korea, Democratic People's Republic of 08/27/2010

He knows he won't be able to fudge elections in 2012 because the Republicans are going to be watching former ACORN Precinct Chairmen like ugly on an ape. He therefore, has to rearrange history (which he can't) and get his collaborators in the Media to back up the bullshit with lies and omissions. And he has to keep the blame Bush crap alive with all the omission fibbies and braggadocio his apparatchiks can muster.

If he pulls out of Iraq and Afghanistan, he can "prove" Bush's war was for nothing, that our troops died for nothing. He has the ya-yas like Carter and others behind him (or does he?)

It's all to discredit Bush so he doesn't have to take responsibility for being the incompetent, pushoff he's always been, and keep the big bucks from George Soros rolling his way.

What a stupid plan. OMG, did I say plan? YES I DID!

Obama plans to destroy all America's rich people so he can prove to the masses how important he is, and when we're all down in the gutter, he can put his foot on our heads and tell the poor folks worldwide, sorry, the American gravy train is not coming their way any more, because he got rid of all the money by giving it to the poor, who squandered it all on drugs and marijuana. hoo hoo hoo.

What a vapid victory. :rolleyes:
 
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The ugly truth is that Obama is squandering a trillion dollars and decimating American wealth in order to push his selfish agendas of arrogant pride on how he hurt and got rid of all America's mean old wealthy people who gave for years to lift other desperate countries of cruel political circumstance.
No, that's an ugly lie and unrelated to the thread.

So now you're backing away from the topic of the thread?

Gee, I wonder why...
No, the truth is, Obama is so desperate and determined to discredit President Bush's astonishing good of freeing 50,000,000 Arabs from despotic rulers, he is willing to pull the carpet out from underneath the Iraqis trying to fight off the old Saddam cabal by removing American troops too soon. That's why there was a State Department warning issued to American citizens. The people our troops were containing are now out to murder and kidnap any American they can lay their mitts on.

State Department Iraqi Travel Warning.

Bahamas, The 08/23/2011
Libya 08/23/2011
Somalia 08/19/2011
Chad 08/16/2011
Haiti 08/08/2011
Pakistan 08/08/2011
Syria 08/05/2011
Niger 08/05/2011
Saudi Arabia 08/05/2011
Central African Republic 07/28/2011
Colombia 07/22/2011
Congo, Democratic Republic of the 07/19/2011
Republic of South Sudan 07/12/2011
Israel, the West Bank and Gaza 06/22/2011
Sudan 06/22/2011
Cote d'Ivoire 06/16/2011
Philippines 06/14/2011
Burundi 06/01/2011
Yemen 05/25/2011
Syria 04/25/2011
Uzbekistan 04/25/2011
Mexico 04/22/2011
Burkina Faso 04/19/2011
Nigeria 04/15/2011
Iraq 04/12/2011
Lebanon 04/04/2011
Algeria 03/16/2011
Mauritania 03/11/2011
Afghanistan 03/08/2011
Mali 03/02/2011
Eritrea 02/27/2011
Pakistan 02/02/2011
Nepal 01/12/2011
Kenya 12/28/2010
Guinea 12/03/2010
Iran 10/08/2010
Korea, Democratic People's Republic of 08/27/2010

He knows he won't be able to fudge elections in 2012 because the Republicans are going to be watching former ACORN Precinct Chairmen like ugly on an ape. He therefore, has to rearrange history (which he can't) and get his collaborators in the Media to back up the bullshit with lies and omissions. And he has to keep the blame Bush crap alive with all the omission fibbies and braggadocio his apparatchiks can muster.

If he pulls out of Iraq and Afghanistan, he can "prove" Bush's war was for nothing, that our troops died for nothing. He has the ya-yas like Carter and others behind him (or does he?)

It's all to discredit Bush so he doesn't have to take responsibility for being the incompetent, pushoff he's always been, and keep the big bucks from George Soros rolling his way.

What a stupid plan. OMG, did I say plan? YES I DID!

Obama plans to destroy all America's rich people so he can prove to the masses how important he is, and when we're all down in the gutter, he can put his foot on our heads and tell the poor folks worldwide, sorry, the American gravy train is not coming their way any more, because he got rid of all the money by giving it to the poor, who squandered it all on drugs and marijuana. hoo hoo hoo.

What a vapid victory. :rolleyes:

Wow, I don't watch Fox or Rush so I missed out on this new talking point.

I haven't seen much worse than this though...wow.

How does one debate such utter nonsense anyway?

I suppose the only logical answer is, "Obama's rubber and you're glue...", maybe "nener, nener, nener"?

I dunno, totally caught me off guard I have to admit.
 
The ugly truth is that Obama is squandering a trillion dollars and decimating American wealth in order to push his selfish agendas of arrogant pride on how he hurt and got rid of all America's mean old wealthy people who gave for years to lift other desperate countries of cruel political circumstance.
No, that's an ugly lie and unrelated to the thread.

So now you're backing away from the topic of the thread?

Gee, I wonder why...
No, the truth is, Obama is so desperate and determined to discredit President Bush's astonishing good of freeing 50,000,000 Arabs from despotic rulers, he is willing to pull the carpet out from underneath the Iraqis trying to fight off the old Saddam cabal by removing American troops too soon. That's why there was a State Department warning issued to American citizens. The people our troops were containing are now out to murder and kidnap any American they can lay their mitts on.

State Department Iraqi Travel Warning.

Bahamas, The 08/23/2011
Libya 08/23/2011
Somalia 08/19/2011
Chad 08/16/2011
Haiti 08/08/2011
Pakistan 08/08/2011
Syria 08/05/2011
Niger 08/05/2011
Saudi Arabia 08/05/2011
Central African Republic 07/28/2011
Colombia 07/22/2011
Congo, Democratic Republic of the 07/19/2011
Republic of South Sudan 07/12/2011
Israel, the West Bank and Gaza 06/22/2011
Sudan 06/22/2011
Cote d'Ivoire 06/16/2011
Philippines 06/14/2011
Burundi 06/01/2011
Yemen 05/25/2011
Syria 04/25/2011
Uzbekistan 04/25/2011
Mexico 04/22/2011
Burkina Faso 04/19/2011
Nigeria 04/15/2011
Iraq 04/12/2011
Lebanon 04/04/2011
Algeria 03/16/2011
Mauritania 03/11/2011
Afghanistan 03/08/2011
Mali 03/02/2011
Eritrea 02/27/2011
Pakistan 02/02/2011
Nepal 01/12/2011
Kenya 12/28/2010
Guinea 12/03/2010
Iran 10/08/2010
Korea, Democratic People's Republic of 08/27/2010

He knows he won't be able to fudge elections in 2012 because the Republicans are going to be watching former ACORN Precinct Chairmen like ugly on an ape. He therefore, has to rearrange history (which he can't) and get his collaborators in the Media to back up the bullshit with lies and omissions. And he has to keep the blame Bush crap alive with all the omission fibbies and braggadocio his apparatchiks can muster.

If he pulls out of Iraq and Afghanistan, he can "prove" Bush's war was for nothing, that our troops died for nothing. He has the ya-yas like Carter and others behind him (or does he?)

It's all to discredit Bush so he doesn't have to take responsibility for being the incompetent, pushoff he's always been, and keep the big bucks from George Soros rolling his way.

What a stupid plan. OMG, did I say plan? YES I DID!

Obama plans to destroy all America's rich people so he can prove to the masses how important he is, and when we're all down in the gutter, he can put his foot on our heads and tell the poor folks worldwide, sorry, the American gravy train is not coming their way any more, because he got rid of all the money by giving it to the poor, who squandered it all on drugs and marijuana. hoo hoo hoo.

What a vapid victory. :rolleyes:

I really had no idea that Obama was such a scheming nasty bastard!
And he has such a nice smile too...it just proves the old saying once again once again that you can't judge a Kenyan by his (long form) birth certificate!
 
You have a very short memory.

And you are a US or Israeli disinformation officer. Your story is pure cockamamie bullshit.

You apparently do not join the American and EU folks who think Iraq is going back to its old hate America ways.
Listen , you retarded son of a bitch, Bush knew that the shiites hate the US guts , that they are religious radicals and are affiliated with Iran.

So don't be acting like you are fucking surprised.
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I quoted only from American sources, the Library of Congress, the FBI.

The coup that wasn't

Scott Ritter was the former US marine captain tasked with finding Saddam Hussein's weapons. Now, in this first detailed account, he reveals how the CIA plotted to use a UN weapons inspection to overthrow the Iraqi regime - and how fiasco turned to tragedy when it failed


Scott Ritter on failed CIA plot to overthrow the Saddam Hussein's regime using UN weapons inspection | World news | The Guardian

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