Why would anyone continue to claim the iraqi war was a failure?

Actually, what I said was that the UN was too much of a feckless, impotent, corrupt body to enforce its (many!) resolutions so the US decided to do so when we concluded that was in our national interest.

I also mentioned how the UN was better at raping civilians and spreading cholera than doing anything useful. I may also have mentioned talking too much, pushing papers, and passing resolution after resolution they have no intention of enforcing, thus giving encouragement to tyrants like saddam and dirty dealers like Koffi Annan's own son.

Prior to that in answer to:

When did the UN Security Council authorize an invasion of Iraq?

You said:

UN Resolutions # 660, 661, 678, 686, 687, 688, 707, 715, 986, 1284, and of course 1441 that specifically mentioned a "final opportunity to comply,"

didn't you. Or are you now recanting your claim that the UNSC authorized an invasion?
 
Actually, what I said was that the UN was too much of a feckless, impotent, corrupt body to enforce its (many!) resolutions so the US decided to do so when we concluded that was in our national interest.

I also mentioned how the UN was better at raping civilians and spreading cholera than doing anything useful. I may also have mentioned talking too much, pushing papers, and passing resolution after resolution they have no intention of enforcing, thus giving encouragement to tyrants like saddam and dirty dealers like Koffi Annan's own son.

Prior to that in answer to:

When did the UN Security Council authorize an invasion of Iraq?

You said:

UN Resolutions # 660, 661, 678, 686, 687, 688, 707, 715, 986, 1284, and of course 1441 that specifically mentioned a "final opportunity to comply,"

didn't you. Or are you now recanting your claim that the UNSC authorized an invasion?

This country does not answer to the UN
this mess they created
 
Actually, what I said was that the UN was too much of a feckless, impotent, corrupt body to enforce its (many!) resolutions so the US decided to do so when we concluded that was in our national interest.

I also mentioned how the UN was better at raping civilians and spreading cholera than doing anything useful. I may also have mentioned talking too much, pushing papers, and passing resolution after resolution they have no intention of enforcing, thus giving encouragement to tyrants like saddam and dirty dealers like Koffi Annan's own son.

Prior to that in answer to:

When did the UN Security Council authorize an invasion of Iraq?

You said:

UN Resolutions # 660, 661, 678, 686, 687, 688, 707, 715, 986, 1284, and of course 1441 that specifically mentioned a "final opportunity to comply,"

didn't you. Or are you now recanting your claim that the UNSC authorized an invasion?

This country does not answer to the UN
this mess they created

That is correct. Only Bibi can tell us what to do.

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Actually, what I said was that the UN was too much of a feckless, impotent, corrupt body to enforce its (many!) resolutions so the US decided to do so when we concluded that was in our national interest.

I also mentioned how the UN was better at raping civilians and spreading cholera than doing anything useful. I may also have mentioned talking too much, pushing papers, and passing resolution after resolution they have no intention of enforcing, thus giving encouragement to tyrants like saddam and dirty dealers like Koffi Annan's own son.

Prior to that in answer to:

When did the UN Security Council authorize an invasion of Iraq?

You said:

UN Resolutions # 660, 661, 678, 686, 687, 688, 707, 715, 986, 1284, and of course 1441 that specifically mentioned a "final opportunity to comply,"

didn't you. Or are you now recanting your claim that the UNSC authorized an invasion?

This country does not answer to the UN
this mess they created

Then why do you want the US army used for enforce UN regulations?
 
I served with self-inflated yokes like you.

Did you get paroled, or was your sentence up?

Talk to those men and women who left the service from 1987 on and ask if Iran-Contra played a role. Many will tell you "yes".

Were some in prison with you?

Neo-con imperialism only weakens us, Jester. Korea, Vietnam, Iraq II, etc. Whenever we do it for imperial goals rather than the needs of the oppressed, we fail. Simple end game. Compare the last sixty years to 1941 to 1949, and let's see if you can figure why.

If only we had a collectivist like you running things.... You socialists only care about "the oppressed!"

"Socialist"? Me? :lol: Son, I am one of the better off fellows in my end of the state, and I thank capitalism for my family being fairly well off.

We did WWII for ourselves and the oppressed of the world, and in Europe we won the peace with the Marshall Plan. We have lost in Asia and the Middle East generally because we don't include the needs of the everyday national of the country.

"Socialism?" You live in la la land.
 
Enforcing any UN resolution without UN approval is illegal under internationial law. That is why the senior bushies cannot travel in Europe.
 
Building schools and hospitals isn't looking out for the needs of everyday people? Giving "everyday people" the opportunity for self-governance isn't "looking out" for them?

You are just hawking your agenda.
 
1) REMOVE SADDAM
DONE
2) STABILIZE COUNTRY
DONE
3) HAVE A REPUBLIC BORN OF THESE EVENTS
DONE

Am missing something here?

Yeah, so what??? Which one of those things affected us directly???
 
"Socialist"? Me? :lol: Son, I am one of the better off fellows in my end of the state, and I thank capitalism for my family being fairly well off.

I suppose slinging crack is a form of Socialism.

We did WWII for ourselves and the oppressed of the world,

Izzatrite? We saw all the starving Children in Mexico and the Congo, then went right over and killed Germans...

and in Europe we won the peace with the Marshall Plan. We have lost in Asia and the Middle East generally because we don't include the needs of the everyday national of the country.

"Socialism?" You live in la la land.

Sparky, you truly are an idiot.
 
Because Jester is partisan before he is American.
You're a fuckin' lunatic, Jane.

Now, where's your proof of all those NCO's and Officers leaving in droves?

You're full of fuckin' shit, and you damn well know it....Just another far left slapdick runnin' off at the mouth.

I served with self-inflated yokes like you. Talk to those men and women who left the service from 1987 on and ask if Iran-Contra played a role. Many will tell you "yes".

Neo-con imperialism only weakens us, Jester. Korea, Vietnam, Iraq II, etc. Whenever we do it for imperial goals rather than the needs of the oppressed, we fail. Simple end game. Compare the last sixty years to 1941 to 1949, and let's see if you can figure why.
LMAO!

I served with many slapdicks like you....They were called no-go's, and didn't last very long. They were either chaptered straight out, or told they were not welcome to re-enlist.

Now, are you going to give us the proof that all those NCO's and Officers left because of Reagan?

You're the one spewing that horseshit, It's up to you to back it up, with full facts.

Can you do it, or not?
 
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"Socialist"? Me? :lol: Son, I am one of the better off fellows in my end of the state, and I thank capitalism for my family being fairly well off.

I suppose slinging crack is a form of Socialism.

We did WWII for ourselves and the oppressed of the world,

Izzatrite? We saw all the starving Children in Mexico and the Congo, then went right over and killed Germans...

and in Europe we won the peace with the Marshall Plan. We have lost in Asia and the Middle East generally because we don't include the needs of the everyday national of the country.

"Socialism?" You live in la la land.

Sparky, you truly are an idiot.

You are as goofy as bigreb :lol: Are you as big a drunk? :lol: Some of my fellow veterans, like you, are such a disgrace to the uniform. We have seen so many 'patriots' like you on the board, no love for self or for country. Such a sorry bunch :lol:
 
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The Un created that mess with Iraq
As part as the agreement that kept Saddam in power he was to come clean with all of the WMDs he had by document and then destroy them by witness
There is this
Chief UN weapons inspector Hans Blix remarked in January 2003 that "Iraq appears not to have come to a genuine acceptance—not even today—of the disarmament, which was demanded of it and which it needs to carry out to win the confidence of the world and to live in peace."[117] Among other things he noted that 1,000 short tons (910 t) of chemical agent were unaccounted for, information on Iraq's VX nerve agent program was missing, and that "no convincing evidence" was presented for the destruction of 8,500 litres (1,900 imp gal; 2,200 US gal) of anthrax that had been declared.[117]
then there is this
Oil-for-Food Programme - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
The US did not have UN authority to carry out UN resolutions. That ends the matter. Our invasion was in violation of international laws of war. The senior Bushies will be arrested if they travel to certain parts of Europe.
 
1) REMOVE SADDAM
DONE
2) STABILIZE COUNTRY
DONE
3) HAVE A REPUBLIC BORN OF THESE EVENTS
DONE

Am missing something here?

Yeah, so what??? Which one of those things affected us directly???


The Taliban in Afghanistan didn't "directly" attack us, did they?

It made a lot more sense to go there than it did to go to Iraq. We were supposed to look for Bin Laden.
 

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