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Here is why I know you guys are liars. I mean besides you're doing the same thing with abortion. Swearing to god you're not trying to make abortion illegal and murder. But we know that's your end game. You're just obvious liars.
When Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah) initially ran for Senate in 2010, he called for the complete elimination of Social Security.
“It will be my objective to phase out Social Security, to pull it up by the roots and get rid of it,” Lee said at a campaign event in 2010, adding, “There’s going to be growing pains associated with doing this. We can’t do it all at once.”
but then later he changed his tune
“I don’t recall ever having advocated for dismantling those — that’s sensitive stuff,” he said in an October interview with the Daily Herald.
“I think, we oughta look to, after we get it solvent, look to the idea of allowing people, if they want to, to at least identify some portion of their social security payments to go into a private account,” he added, appearing to promote a similar idea to Pence.
So this Pence plan is just like overturning Roe V Wade. It's not the end game. It's a step towards ending these social programs. Which you Republicans hate.
Vagorie Taylor Greene can call us liars but she's the one lying.
Because people like you (Republicans) get in the wayThis is one of the few times I actually agree with you. If we want these programs (and most Americans do) then they have to be funded plain and simple. Well if it's so easy to do, why is nobody doing it?
You mean privatization (dumping it into the stock market)?So you are against workers deciding how their retirement money should be handled?
For good reason. It would be a disasterthat wasn't a Pence idea, it was a GW idea. Democrats fought tooth and nail to make sure that never happened.
You mean privatization (dumping it into the stock market)?
Because people like you (Republicans) get in the way
Again, freeze it. Find it from existing revenue over 55, cut off and create a private option with mandatory pay in. Not sure why people aren’t intelligent to understand the problem
He doesn’t think it’s their money, he owns itSo you are against workers deciding how their retirement money should be handled? BTW, that wasn't a Pence idea, it was a GW idea. Democrats fought tooth and nail to make sure that never happened.
I know, proof they are communistBecause by doing so gives Democrats less control and dependency. They are never going to allow that to happen just like they made sure it didn't happen when GW suggested we do that.
I know, proof they are communist
There is risk. However, there are those who believe the stock market is manipulated anyway. In that the downturns are controlled.You mean privatization (dumping it into the stock market)?
For good reason. It would be a disaster
what is "heath" care? You have no credibility if you don't pay any attention simple typing errors how then can you comprehend what VCICA.
And NO FANNY and Freddie was the fault of Obama!
FACTS Dragon... something you NEVER deal with!
FACTS:
For example the 2008 recession can be laid directly on Obama's feet, EVEN though he wasn't president yet!
FACT: Obama represented was a pioneering contributor to the national subprime real estate bubble, and roughly half of the 186 African-American clients in his landmark 1995 mortgage discrimination lawsuit against Citibank have since gone bankrupt or received foreclosure notices.
With landmark lawsuit, Barack Obama pushed banks to give subprime loans to Chicago’s African-Americans
President Barack Obama was a pioneering contributor to the national subprime real estate bubble.dailycaller.com
You friggin moron. There's a proposal in Congress right nowGet in the way of what? When did any Democrat propose an increase in employee/employer contributions?
And you idiots want us to put our entire retirement there?There is risk. However, there are those who believe the stock market is manipulated anyway. In that the downturns are controlled.
You cant. From the get go, social security was set up, as Pay As You go. The money collected today from workers and employers, is to pay for senior retirements today.Actually there IS a better way with Medicare/SS. It could make all participating Americans "MILLIONAIRES" guaranteed just like the FDIC works.
Called "Venture Capital Insurance Corporation of America"(VCICA) the program would take deductions from paychecks and UNDER the direction of the participant
options to put into savings accounts, invest in the stock market, buy venture capital, and their principal is guaranteed by VCICA!
Those high risk investments would pay a premium that would be used to protect the VCICA members principal just as FDIC works guaranteeing principal not interest earned. VCICA would not only help any VCICA member to have APPRECIATION plus interest growth that historically over the last
The historical average yearly return of the S&P 500 is 10.345% over the last 100 years, as of end of January 2023.
So a VCICA member who started putting a part of their/employers' 6.2% of paycheck or say average of $2,000/mo or over $250/month
Historical Average Stock Market Returns for S&P 500 (5-year to 150-year averages) - Trade That Swing
These are the average yearly returns of the US stock market over the last 5, 10, 20, 30, 50, 100, and 150-years. Data is based on the S&P 500.tradethatswing.com
Assume started 30 years ago the VCICA member would have accumulated:$500,000 or more as their salary would have increased.
So If i were asked by the government.. would you like to tell VCICA where to invest your payments and the principal would be guaranteed by VCICA would you participate?
Let the Americans have more control over their lives! Let them have VCICA!
Who was talking about Fox?You talk about Fox and then you post all of those proven lies about the 2008 recession which are now trying to blame on Obama. Talk about drinking the Republican Kool-Aid. I suppose Democrats are responsible for the Reagan crash and Trump’s crash is well.
Republicans loosen restrictions in the Banking and security laws meant to prevent a 1929 style crash, and enact anti-worker economic policy, cut taxes, spend like drunken sailors, and then turn around and blame the Democrats when it all comes crashing down around them.
I don’t know who’s dumber the Republicans who keep doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result, or the people who actually believe the shit they sling.
dailycaller.com
But the majority of Americans like the democrats. Without the the electoral vote and republicans to keeping Blacks from voting, republicans would be relegated to the dust bins of history.You can't blame them really. Without government handouts, who would need the Democrat party? Just about nobody.
And IProved you wrong, boi!I have been listening to Republicans for 40 years now boy. I know how they feel about SS and Medicare.
Real intelligent there Lesh, pretty much what I expect from you.LAST FUCKING CENTURY dope
You friggin moron. There's a proposal in Congress right now
House Democrats call for action on Social Security reform. What that could mean for your benefits
Democrats are seeking to bring a bill to enhance Social Security benefits up for a vote on the House floor this fall. Here's what it includes.www.cnbc.com
You mean I understand what fucking century I live in?Real intelligent there Lesh, pretty much what I expect from you.
