Will Russians Kill Americans in Ukraine?

[georgephillip]

Colonel Douglas Macgregor has stated he knows high-ranking individuals in the Biden Administration who honestly believe Russians would not fire on active duty American troops fighting in Ukraine.

Given that Biden appears to be considering a multinational force aimed at Russia inside Ukrainian borders, does this alleged "coalition of the willing" rely heavily on a false premise... namely Russians will not fire on Americans?

Will Biden Gamble on a Ukraine Coalition? - The American Conservative

"But as signaled recently by David Petraeus, the president and his generals are evaluating their own 'coalition of the willing.'

"The coalition would allegedly consist of primarily, but not exclusively, Polish and Romanian forces, with the U.S. Army at its core, for employment in Ukraine..."

Macgregor questions this coalition's purpose, method, and end state.

"First, what is the aim of the coalition?

"Is the aim to expel Russian forces from Ukrainian territory?

"Is the aim to reinforce Ukrainian defense lines and achieve a ceasefire for negotiations?

"Or is the coalition merely a device to drag the rest of the NATO alliance into a war with Russia that very few Europeans will support?

"Second, what will U.S. air and ground forces do if they are decisively engaged from the moment they cross the Polish and Romanian Borders into western Ukraine?

"The Russian High Command will no doubt identify the U.S. military component as the coalition’s center of gravity.

"It follows that Russian military power will focus first and foremost on the destruction of the U.S. warfighting structure together with its space-based command, control, intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance capabilities."

 

[skye]

Polish, Romanian, American.....etc...yes mercenaries are going to be destroyed!

These are dangerous times to be a mercenary.

Better not to be one.

 

[odanny]

Polish, Romanian, American.....etc...yes mercenaries are going to be destroyed!

These are dangerous times to be a mercenary.

Better not to be one.

Says the Russian troll.

 

[lg325]

If anyone is in a combat zone they are a target. So yes they will be fired on and it is naive of the ivory tower people in D.C. to think otherwise.

 

[JGalt]

Colonel Douglas Macgregor has stated he knows high-ranking individuals in the Biden Administration who honestly believe Russians would not fire on active duty American troops fighting in Ukraine.

Given that Biden appears to be considering a multinational force aimed at Russia inside Ukrainian borders, does this alleged "coalition of the willing" rely heavily on a false premise... namely Russians will not fire on Americans?

Will Biden Gamble on a Ukraine Coalition? - The American Conservative

"But as signaled recently by David Petraeus, the president and his generals are evaluating their own 'coalition of the willing.'

"The coalition would allegedly consist of primarily, but not exclusively, Polish and Romanian forces, with the U.S. Army at its core, for employment in Ukraine..."

Macgregor questions this coalition's purpose, method, and end state.

"First, what is the aim of the coalition?

"Is the aim to expel Russian forces from Ukrainian territory?

"Is the aim to reinforce Ukrainian defense lines and achieve a ceasefire for negotiations?

"Or is the coalition merely a device to drag the rest of the NATO alliance into a war with Russia that very few Europeans will support?

"Second, what will U.S. air and ground forces do if they are decisively engaged from the moment they cross the Polish and Romanian Borders into western Ukraine?

"The Russian High Command will no doubt identify the U.S. military component as the coalition’s center of gravity.

"It follows that Russian military power will focus first and foremost on the destruction of the U.S. warfighting structure together with its space-based command, control, intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance capabilities."

Of course they would. It's war, and those stupid Russians are going to fire on anyone that fires on them, or whomever their higher-ups order them to fire on.

Ukraine is a shitshow and we have no business sending American troops to their border. NATO pays to keep the Russians from crossing their borders, so let those NATO countries pay with their own blood, not ours.

 

[skye]

If anyone is in a combat zone they are a target. So yes they will be fired on and it is naive of the ivory tower people in D.C. to think otherwise.

I agree with that statement, in a combat zone everybody is a target.

 

[g5000]

Colonel Douglas Macgregor has stated he knows high-ranking individuals in the Biden Administration who honestly believe Russians would not fire on active duty American troops fighting in Ukraine.

Given that Biden appears to be considering a multinational force aimed at Russia inside Ukrainian borders, does this alleged "coalition of the willing" rely heavily on a false premise... namely Russians will not fire on Americans?

Will Biden Gamble on a Ukraine Coalition? - The American Conservative

"But as signaled recently by David Petraeus, the president and his generals are evaluating their own 'coalition of the willing.'

"The coalition would allegedly consist of primarily, but not exclusively, Polish and Romanian forces, with the U.S. Army at its core, for employment in Ukraine..."

Macgregor questions this coalition's purpose, method, and end state.

"First, what is the aim of the coalition?

"Is the aim to expel Russian forces from Ukrainian territory?

"Is the aim to reinforce Ukrainian defense lines and achieve a ceasefire for negotiations?

"Or is the coalition merely a device to drag the rest of the NATO alliance into a war with Russia that very few Europeans will support?

"Second, what will U.S. air and ground forces do if they are decisively engaged from the moment they cross the Polish and Romanian Borders into western Ukraine?

"The Russian High Command will no doubt identify the U.S. military component as the coalition’s center of gravity.

"It follows that Russian military power will focus first and foremost on the destruction of the U.S. warfighting structure together with its space-based command, control, intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance capabilities."

And what makes you believe Biden is going to send an invasion force into Ukraine?

 

[Uncensored2008]

Colonel Douglas Macgregor has stated he knows high-ranking individuals in the Biden Administration who honestly believe Russians would not fire on active duty American troops fighting in Ukraine.

Given that Biden appears to be considering a multinational force aimed at Russia inside Ukrainian borders, does this alleged "coalition of the willing" rely heavily on a false premise... namely Russians will not fire on Americans?

Will Biden Gamble on a Ukraine Coalition? - The American Conservative

"But as signaled recently by David Petraeus, the president and his generals are evaluating their own 'coalition of the willing.'

"The coalition would allegedly consist of primarily, but not exclusively, Polish and Romanian forces, with the U.S. Army at its core, for employment in Ukraine..."

Macgregor questions this coalition's purpose, method, and end state.

"First, what is the aim of the coalition?

"Is the aim to expel Russian forces from Ukrainian territory?

"Is the aim to reinforce Ukrainian defense lines and achieve a ceasefire for negotiations?

"Or is the coalition merely a device to drag the rest of the NATO alliance into a war with Russia that very few Europeans will support?

"Second, what will U.S. air and ground forces do if they are decisively engaged from the moment they cross the Polish and Romanian Borders into western Ukraine?

"The Russian High Command will no doubt identify the U.S. military component as the coalition’s center of gravity.

"It follows that Russian military power will focus first and foremost on the destruction of the U.S. warfighting structure together with its space-based command, control, intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance capabilities."

That dumb motherfucker Biden is DETERMINED to start WWIII.

If the idiot moves to engage in a war with Russia, we need to 25th the moron immediately.

Biden moving troops into Ukraine is an act of war. The sleazy bastard wants war to save his legacy.

 

[georgephillip]

Polish, Romanian, American.....etc...yes mercenaries are going to be destroyed!

These are dangerous times to be a mercenary.

Better not to be one.

Macgregor isn't talking about mercs.

Biden's plan is to use active duty US forces to confront Russia in western Ukraine.

Will Biden Gamble on a Ukraine Coalition? - The American Conservative

"Third, is Washington building a 'coalition of the willing' for political reasons or because it anticipates a resource-intensive commitment and needs regional allies to share the burden?

"Since it is unlikely that conventional U.S. military power would defeat conventional Russian military power on its own, can the U.S.-led coalition assemble the diverse military capabilities required to dominate Russian forces with enough striking power to compel a change in Russian behavior?

"Equally important, can U.S. and allied forces protect Europe’s numerous transportation networks, as well as air and naval bases, from Russian air and missile attack?"

 

[skye]

Macgregor isn't talking about mercs.

Biden's plan is to use active duty US forces to confront Russia in western Ukraine.

Will Biden Gamble on a Ukraine Coalition? - The American Conservative

"Third, is Washington building a 'coalition of the willing' for political reasons or because it anticipates a resource-intensive commitment and needs regional allies to share the burden?

"Since it is unlikely that conventional U.S. military power would defeat conventional Russian military power on its own, can the U.S.-led coalition assemble the diverse military capabilities required to dominate Russian forces with enough striking power to compel a change in Russian behavior?

"Equally important, can U.S. and allied forces protect Europe’s numerous transportation networks, as well as air and naval bases, from Russian air and missile attack?"

Again, everybody in a combat zone is a legitimate target, so yes.

 

[georgephillip]

That dumb motherfucker Biden is DETERMINED to start WWIII.

If the idiot moves to engage in a war with Russia, we need to 25th the moron immediately.

Biden moving troops into Ukraine is an act of war. The sleazy bastard wants war to save his legacy.

If I'm remembering correctly, in 1988 Biden and Trump polled at the same level as Kanye West in 2020; imho, none are qualified to serve as POTUS.

 

[lg325]

To me we are already in WW3 we are just using surrogates and some of our own troops plus supplying those who are on our side. Our mission should be not let it go to a full blown all out war.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Says the Russian troll.

Fuck you Nazi.

Biden's need to salvage his failed presidency is no reason to get hundreds of thousands, or millions of Americans killed.

Maybe if every American focused on that pulsing vein in Adolf's forehead as he rants about his hatred of America and Americans, like the pile of shit did last night - maybe if we all concentrate real hard, it will burst and the vile fuck will drop dead of an aneurism.

I never wished for Obama to die - but Obama didn't try to start WWIII the way this vile fuck is.

 

[Uncensored2008]

And what makes you believe Biden is going to send an invasion force into Ukraine?

Because Biden is a stupid fuck and his regime is a failure. He wants to start a war to distract from what a failure it is,

You couldn't figure that out, Guno?

Well, you are pretty stupid....

 

[JGalt]

Says the Russian troll.

I don't see your ass hopping on a plane to go fight Russians in Ukraine. Are you a pussy or something?

Show us how brave you are, little man.

 

[georgephillip]

If anyone is in a combat zone they are a target. So yes they will be fired on and it is naive of the ivory tower people in D.C. to think otherwise.

I've also seen posts on this board and others by individuals claiming military experience that they believe Russia is afraid to fight Americans in Ukraine.

 

[JGalt]

I've also seen posts on this board and others by individuals claiming military experience that they believe Russia is afraid to fight Americans in Ukraine.

Maybe, maybe not. We won't know unless we send some there. Are you a gambler?

But judging by Biden's piss-poor performance in the Afghan withdrawal, I'd be hesitant.

 

[georgephillip]

Of course they would. It's war, and those stupid Russians are going to fire on anyone that fires on them, or whomever their higher-ups order them to fire on.

Ukraine is a shitshow and we have no business sending American troops to their border. NATO pays to keep the Russians from crossing their borders, so let those NATO countries pay with their own blood, not ours.

I'm wondering if we'll see regime change in NATO and the EU before Putin leaves office?

Will Biden Gamble on a Ukraine Coalition? - The American Conservative

"Finally, Jens Stoltenberg, the Secretary General of NATO insists that Ukraine’s failure to prevail in its war with Russia would be interpreted as a defeat for NATO.

"Would heavy losses inflicted on U.S. ground forces in a confrontation with Russian military power not also signal Washington’s defeat?

"How rapidly could U.S. and allied forces replace their losses?

"Would severe U.S. losses raise the specter of a U.S. nuclear response?

"When does support for Ukraine put NATO’s security and survival at risk?"

 

[JGalt]

I'm wondering if we'll see regime change in NATO and the EU before Putin leaves office?

Will Biden Gamble on a Ukraine Coalition? - The American Conservative

"Finally, Jens Stoltenberg, the Secretary General of NATO insists that Ukraine’s failure to prevail in its war with Russia would be interpreted as a defeat for NATO.

"Would heavy losses inflicted on U.S. ground forces in a confrontation with Russian military power not also signal Washington’s defeat?

"How rapidly could U.S. and allied forces replace their losses?

"Would severe U.S. losses raise the specter of a U.S. nuclear response?

"When does support for Ukraine put NATO’s security and survival at risk?"

No idea. I'm just some schmendrick sitting in front of a computer, hoping that between the two idiots Biden and Putin, they don't blow us all to hell.

That would really screw up my schedule tomorrow. I had planned on watching Planet of the Apes.

 

[lg325]

I've also seen posts on this board and others by individuals claiming military experience that they believe Russia is afraid to fight Americans in Ukraine.

Never a good idea to underestimate the enemy. Ask Custer.