Will The Democrats Finally Admit They Are a Socialist Party?

[jon_berzerk]

Dems can't even admit that they're Socialists

LOL

true

--LOL

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

the streets of liberal-run cities run red with the blood of young minorities this time of year, especially in this hour. but you morons have an appallingly high tolerance for that

none of them will die tonight at the hands of the john birch society
and neither of you clowns will have anything to post about the 2 dozen or so minorities killed every day of the year. you're too busy being terrified of john birch boogeymen hiding in your bushes

idiots and hypocrites

your concern for minority youth is noted

 

[bedowin62]

it's comical to me; they get so butthurt when you call them socialists, and start crying that you don't know what Socialism is; but they wont just come out and say they are Socialists, own it

And the Right doesn't like to admit they're Fascists.

YAWN
I think we could if you had a shred of evidence or something showing the right are fascists idiot

John Birch Society and other right wing nutjobs

which nobody every heard of; it's not like they're out there rioting and burning towns down right now like left-wing groups are on the anniversary of the Michael brown shooting
ur a clown; I knew your moronic self was going to try to bait me to post. so you got what you asked for; made fun of

The groups you mention are acting no different than the Sons of Liberty did.

Do you know Colonial and Early American history

People have heard of the John Birchers and even if they haven't their influence on teh right and within conservatism in America is growing.

The left is never in any way going to come to power in America. People like the Koch family own the media, and I say this being no fan of the left wing in America

Trying to bait you? What are people so afraid of? Big old bad Dante?

I could never be afraid of you dummy. amused for a bit, then bored, but not afraid

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Dems can't even admit that they're Socalists

LOL

Uncle Frank?

How the heck did you get out of the attic again?

 

[bedowin62]

the streets of liberal-run cities run red with the blood of young minorities this time of year, especially in this hour. but you morons have an appallingly high tolerance for that

none of them will die tonight at the hands of the john birch society
and neither of you clowns will have anything to post about the 2 dozen or so minorities killed every day of the year. you're too busy being terrified of john birch boogeymen hiding in your bushes

idiots and hypocrites

your concern for minority youth is noted

YAWN
note that I don't give a shit what you think while you're at it

 

[bedowin62]

Dems can't even admit that they're Socalists

LOL

Uncle Frank?

How the heck did you get out of the attic again?

good one stupid. reminds me; where's cindy Sheehan these days?

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

And the Right doesn't like to admit they're Fascists.

YAWN
I think we could if you had a shred of evidence or something showing the right are fascists idiot

John Birch Society and other right wing nutjobs

which nobody every heard of; it's not like they're out there rioting and burning towns down right now like left-wing groups are on the anniversary of the Michael brown shooting
ur a clown; I knew your moronic self was going to try to bait me to post. so you got what you asked for; made fun of

The groups you mention are acting no different than the Sons of Liberty did.

Do you know Colonial and Early American history

People have heard of the John Birchers and even if they haven't their influence on teh right and within conservatism in America is growing.

The left is never in any way going to come to power in America. People like the Koch family own the media, and I say this being no fan of the left wing in America

Trying to bait you? What are people so afraid of? Big old bad Dante?

I could never be afraid of you dummy. amused for a bit, then bored, but not afraid

you're afraid to debate Dante

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

the streets of liberal-run cities run red with the blood of young minorities this time of year, especially in this hour. but you morons have an appallingly high tolerance for that

none of them will die tonight at the hands of the john birch society
and neither of you clowns will have anything to post about the 2 dozen or so minorities killed every day of the year. you're too busy being terrified of john birch boogeymen hiding in your bushes

idiots and hypocrites

your concern for minority youth is noted

YAWN
note that I don't give a shit what you think while you're at it

Boo!


afraid of Big Old Bad Dante

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

bedowin is so lame he/she doesn't even rate a Dante Flame Thread of his/her own

 

[bedowin62]

LMAO!!

my alert messages are all about your posts!!

you losers are soooooooo predictable
somebody hurts your over-bloated ego and you cant stop responding!!

 

[bedowin62]

you leave a leftard alone for a moment and he goes all postal! lol

 

[bedowin62]

and speaks of himself in the third person???

 

[bedowin62]

this is the part where I tell you its ok to declare victory; the arrogant but butthurt ones always see vindication in everything anyway

got to work way too early; and I know your type very very well, being somewhat of a veteran of these boards

I knew when I made fun of you the first time it wounded your pride, and you'll be trying to heal it all night so..............................

carry on dimwit!!

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

LMAO!!

my alert messages are all about your posts!!

you losers are soooooooo predictable
somebody hurts your over-bloated ego and you cant stop responding!!

funny, mine all most all from you in the last hour.

then again, when people respond to you it must amaze you

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

So bedowin is afraid to debate Big Old Bad Dante: Boo!

Booh friggin' hoo!

 

[CowboyTed]

Sure. Social Security and fire departments are pure socialism. You against those too?

the fire dept. is not a socialist organization.......Socialism controls the means of production.......concentrating economic decisions in the hands of the government......totalitarian socialism gathers up every other aspect of life.

The general welfare is part of the Constitution...except they don"t mean just giving money from one person to another.

Sorry to break the news to you but the fire department is a socialist program.

The person who has the fire is using more resources than the person who doesn't. the is why the fire inspector can close your business (faster than anyone else), because you can have a building which causes an undue risk to society.

The production you ignored is the 'service to put out fires', the people who have fires are "stealing" (to use your words) from people that don't have fires as they use the service more.

To be fair (in your world) the firemen should bring a credit card machine to a fire and bill you before they put out the fire.

This would have been tricky during 911.

 

[CowboyTed]

When will you admit that some socialist polices are the main stay of civilization??? We wouldn't have civilization without them.

I don't admit it because it's simply not true. There is nothing that government does that the private sector can't do better and cheaper.

Army, Policing, Justice, Health Insurance, Roads, Many Infrasturcture...

How many private companies have been to the moon?
I am pretty sure the US Government won WW2.

 

[CowboyTed]

If socialism, (whatever that is) is done at a the local level is it still socialism or does the program have to be at the federal level for it to be labeled socialism?

Paying for a fire service is not socialism.

It is socialism... Local, State or Federal Government is still all government.
I know it breaks yer hearts but local government services are just as socialist as Federal Government services.

 

[CowboyTed]

When will you admit that some socialist polices are the main stay of civilization??? We wouldn't have civilization without them.

I don't admit it because it's simply not true. There is nothing that government does that the private sector can't do better and cheaper.

How about the military?

Stated in the Constitution already. That is a federal matter...Common Defense.

And private military contractors are better than almost all military units. They can hire the best, and do the job more efficiently.

Another guy looking for a Soapbox. You stand up and say that US Army, Navy and Airforce are lesser than Private Contractors.

Do it in front of some WW2 vets... Good luck.

Do you seriously think private military contractors would have won WW2?

 

[CowboyTed]

Lots of volunteer fire departments, and I honor every single person who participates, but public fire departments are much more effective. That's why most small towns scramble at the first opportunity to set one up. How effective do you think a volunteer fire department would have been on 9/11?

There are also private fire departments, and they are about 1/3 the price of government run fire departments. When you pay people to retire at 42 on a 100% pension, it gets real expensive.

Who pays for them?

Private fire departments? Homeowners pay for them through their mortgages. Maintaining fire protection is part of their mortgage agreement, just like maintaining homeowner's insurance is.

Who do you think pays the taxes for our police, fire departments, and road maintenance??? IT goes through the government and they dole it out to certain people that get it done.

I am very thankful some of these things are regulated and we elect the government to over see that it gets done.

We already know how government pays for their exorbitantly expensive fire departments. The point you are so desperately trying to evade is that the same thing can be accomplished by private companies at 1/3 of the cost. It's unfortunately for intelligent people who can solve their problems without government that they have to be governed by morons like you.

Another guy for the Soapbox...

You know those guys in 911 would have run those buildings on for for 1/3 the money....

They might set fire to your soapbox...