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Obamacare is the government dictating to insurance companies whom they must cover and under what terms. That is dead-cold socialism.
Obamacare uses private insurance companies. Single payer would be Socialized Medicine.
Oh, btw, in reality, the biggest socialist institution in the US is the military.
100% stupid of course since the military is not thought of as an industry. socialism is when the liberal govt owns and manages an industries. Do you understand?
It's kind of hard to get offended by the label anymore when you've got thousands of enthusiastic Democrats lining up to hear Bernie Sanders' populist Scandinavian style welfare state plan for our nation. The man is, after all, the only self admitted Socialist elected to the U.S. Senate and he is edging closer and closer to toppling Hillary each day.
When will you admit that some socialist polices are the main stay of civilization??? We wouldn't have civilization without them.
Oh, btw, in reality, the biggest socialist institution in the US is the military.
100% stupid of course since the military is not thought of as an industry. socialism is when the liberal govt owns and manages an industries. Do you understand?
Oh, btw, in reality, the biggest socialist institution in the US is the military.
100% stupid of course since the military is not thought of as an industry. socialism is when the liberal govt owns and manages an industries. Do you understand?
The military is a service industry. Because it is run by the government and utilizes government employees, it is a socialist institution. Like the post office. Like a public school.
So healthcare is not an industry,
When will you admit that some socialist polices are the main stay of civilization??? We wouldn't have civilization without them.
When will you admit that some socialist polices are the main stay of civilization??? We wouldn't have civilization without them.
And now you're going to explain that assertion, right?
So healthcare is not an industry,
why on earth would you say that?? Do you have any idea??
When will you admit that some socialist polices are the main stay of civilization??? We wouldn't have civilization without them.
dear, we and China have mixed economies with elements of socialism and capitalism. The more capitalism the better the economy performs. When China just switched toward capitalism they instantly eliminated 40% of the entire world' poverty.
Do you understand?
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Did someone finally figure out what socialism is or do we still define it as something, bad or good? By this time the old bugaboo that socialism leads to communism should be dead and buried so any new definitions?
Sure. Social Security and fire departments are pure socialism. You against those too?
Social Security is a federal insurance program and fire departments are funded from property taxes. That is not pure socialism.
In technical terms, Sanders is not a "socialist", no matter what he calls himself - he's a Social Democrat.
The Republicans have the Tea Party and the Democrats have the social democrats, and most of us are somewhere in between the two.
The question to me is whether the conservatives will either figure out or admit that the goal is Sweden & Germany, not Cuba & Venezuela.
The conservatives are fighting something that doesn't exist right now, and it's helping the social democrats big time.
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Fight away.I don't really give a fuck where you're TRYING to go. My concern is where you're GOING to go. Furthermore, the time to fight something is BEFORE it becomes an accomplished fact, not after it already is. Duh.The Republicans have the Tea Party and the Democrats have the social democrats, and most of us are somewhere in between the two.
The question to me is whether the conservatives will either figure out or admit that the goal is Sweden & Germany, not Cuba & Venezuela.
The conservatives are fighting something that doesn't exist right now, and it's helping the social democrats big time.
That would actually be the argument to make. But the problem with just screaming "socialism" is that it makes it easy for the social democrats to point out existing "socialist" stuff like cops, roads, social security, Medicare, etc., and suddenly the conservatives have to either (1) defend the absurd or (2) call for the end of social security and Medicare, which is just a freakin' brilliant idea.The Democrats promise Sweden and deliver Venezuela.The Republicans have the Tea Party and the Democrats have the social democrats, and most of us are somewhere in between the two.
The question to me is whether the conservatives will either figure out or admit that the goal is Sweden & Germany, not Cuba & Venezuela.
The conservatives are fighting something that doesn't exist right now, and it's helping the social democrats big time.
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Just sayin' - while conservatives are screaming "socialism", the liberals are easily poking holes in that argument and then making gains with their own arguments. They need a more nuanced approach.
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Replacing Social Security and Medicare with what, precisely?That would actually be the argument to make. But the problem with just screaming "socialism" is that it makes it easy for the social democrats to point out existing "socialist" stuff like cops, roads, social security, Medicare, etc., and suddenly the conservatives have to either (1) defend the absurd or (2) call for the end of social security and Medicare, which is just a freakin' brilliant idea.The Democrats promise Sweden and deliver Venezuela.The Republicans have the Tea Party and the Democrats have the social democrats, and most of us are somewhere in between the two.
The question to me is whether the conservatives will either figure out or admit that the goal is Sweden & Germany, not Cuba & Venezuela.
The conservatives are fighting something that doesn't exist right now, and it's helping the social democrats big time.
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Just sayin' - while conservatives are screaming "socialism", the liberals are easily poking holes in that argument and then making gains with their own arguments. They need a more nuanced approach.
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Cops and roads aren't socialism, unless you think it's either socialism or anarchism, with no in-between. Social Security and Medicare, but I frankly find it funny that you leftists keep pointing to them as though you think conservatives approve of them. We do, in fact, call for replacing both systems, and the more you object to it, the more brilliant an idea it appears to be, just FYI.
Just saying, while liberals think they're "easily poking holes", they're actually just making conservatives look better by comparison. You need a more intelligent approach.
