Will The Democrats Finally Admit They Are a Socialist Party?

[bripat9643]

So we have to ignore any data that's older than 15-years-old?

Seriously?

They update this stuff often, it's telling that you cherry pick data to fit your racist scenario.

I posted the data available. The fact that you think data from 1999 isn't valid only shows what a lying weasel you are.

List of countries by life expectancy - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Your figures don't subtract deaths from accidents and murders. Therefore, the don't measure the true effectiveness of each countries healthcare system.

Oh, shall we go there?
List of countries by intentional homicide rate - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
LOL. Idiot.

What does that prove about socialized medicine?

 

[David_42]

They update this stuff often, it's telling that you cherry pick data to fit your racist scenario.

I posted the data available. The fact that you think data from 1999 isn't valid only shows what a lying weasel you are.

List of countries by life expectancy - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Your figures don't subtract deaths from accidents and murders. Therefore, the don't measure the true effectiveness of each countries healthcare system.

Oh, shall we go there?
List of countries by intentional homicide rate - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
LOL. Idiot.

What does that prove about socialized medicine?

You said: "The figures don't subtract deaths from murders/accidents."
The US has a high homicide rate compared to other countries/europe, making your point seem like idiocy.
Socialized medicine? I thought we were talking about life expectancy? What about universal healthcare?
WHO Universal health coverage

 

[bripat9643]

Wrong. History shows that the closer a country gets to pure capitalism, the faster its economy grows and the better life gets for everyone.

Bullshit, tell me more about europe/america before regulations. Disasters that led to strikes, pollution, low wages, child labor, monopolies..

Europe and America before regulations was a hell of a lot better than Europe and America before capitalism. Wages were low because capitalism hadn't been in place for very long. Countries don't become instantly wealthy the minute they adopt capitalism. Your attempt to push this idiocy only show that you're a dishonest scumbag.

Yes, capitalism usually is better then feudalism/primitive settlements. LOL. Wages stayed low until revolutions happened/labor organized/the state stepped in.

Wrong. Wages were always higher in capitalist countries than in other countries. They grew steadily over time. Organized labor and state intervention retarded the growth of wages. Just consider the last 8 years.

Every country was "capitalist" apart from the USSR/cuba/north korea.. Rampant income inequality continually grew until labor unions were formed, until the minimum wage. Trying to say these things retarded the growth of wages is idiotic. African countries, places without regulation but allowing capitalists to prosper.. They're literal hell holes. There's a reason people flee to america from haiti or cuba.. both are bad in their own ways. One follows pure socialism, the other unregulated capitalism, more haitians come here then cubans these days though.. The last 8 years? Oh, another genius who wants to blame obama for everything.

Every country was not capitalist prior to the 18th century. They were mostly feudalism. African tribal societies are obviously not capitalist. The king could expropriate everything you owned at the wave of his hand. Only a few European countries had secure legal protections for private property, which is essential for capitalism to function.

You don't even know what capitalism is, yet you feel qualified to criticize it.

How typically liberal.

 

[bripat9643]

I posted the data available. The fact that you think data from 1999 isn't valid only shows what a lying weasel you are.

List of countries by life expectancy - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Your figures don't subtract deaths from accidents and murders. Therefore, the don't measure the true effectiveness of each countries healthcare system.

Oh, shall we go there?
List of countries by intentional homicide rate - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
LOL. Idiot.

What does that prove about socialized medicine?

You said: "The figures don't subtract deaths from murders/accidents."
The US has a high homicide rate compared to other countries/europe, making your point seem like idiocy.
Socialized medicine? I thought we were talking about life expectancy? What about universal healthcare?
WHO Universal health coverage

You're obviously too stupid to follow the argument. I'm done trying to explain calculus to a mule.

 

[David_42]

Bullshit, tell me more about europe/america before regulations. Disasters that led to strikes, pollution, low wages, child labor, monopolies..

Europe and America before regulations was a hell of a lot better than Europe and America before capitalism. Wages were low because capitalism hadn't been in place for very long. Countries don't become instantly wealthy the minute they adopt capitalism. Your attempt to push this idiocy only show that you're a dishonest scumbag.

Yes, capitalism usually is better then feudalism/primitive settlements. LOL. Wages stayed low until revolutions happened/labor organized/the state stepped in.

Wrong. Wages were always higher in capitalist countries than in other countries. They grew steadily over time. Organized labor and state intervention retarded the growth of wages. Just consider the last 8 years.

Every country was "capitalist" apart from the USSR/cuba/north korea.. Rampant income inequality continually grew until labor unions were formed, until the minimum wage. Trying to say these things retarded the growth of wages is idiotic. African countries, places without regulation but allowing capitalists to prosper.. They're literal hell holes. There's a reason people flee to america from haiti or cuba.. both are bad in their own ways. One follows pure socialism, the other unregulated capitalism, more haitians come here then cubans these days though.. The last 8 years? Oh, another genius who wants to blame obama for everything.

Every country was not capitalist prior to the 18th century. They were mostly feudalism. African tribal societies are obviously not capitalist. The king could expropriate everything you owned at the wave of his hand. Only a few European countries had secure legal protections for private property, which is essential for capitalism to function.

You don't even know what capitalism is, yet you feel qualified to criticize it.

How typically liberal.

Oh dear lord, I know what feudalism is, the fact is living conditions were consistently horrible until labor rose up, the IWW, the revolutions in europe, safety laws... Tribal societies? Africa isn't all that tribal anymore bud, it's mercilessly exploited by capitalists, with little to no regulation.

 

[David_42]

List of countries by life expectancy - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Your figures don't subtract deaths from accidents and murders. Therefore, the don't measure the true effectiveness of each countries healthcare system.

Oh, shall we go there?
List of countries by intentional homicide rate - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
LOL. Idiot.

What does that prove about socialized medicine?

You said: "The figures don't subtract deaths from murders/accidents."
The US has a high homicide rate compared to other countries/europe, making your point seem like idiocy.
Socialized medicine? I thought we were talking about life expectancy? What about universal healthcare?
WHO Universal health coverage

You're obviously too stupid to follow the argument. I'm done trying to explain calculus to a mule.

Good, go back to your little bubble and worship workplace accidents that were all to common before evil "socialist" regulations.

 

[bripat9643]

Europe and America before regulations was a hell of a lot better than Europe and America before capitalism. Wages were low because capitalism hadn't been in place for very long. Countries don't become instantly wealthy the minute they adopt capitalism. Your attempt to push this idiocy only show that you're a dishonest scumbag.

Yes, capitalism usually is better then feudalism/primitive settlements. LOL. Wages stayed low until revolutions happened/labor organized/the state stepped in.

Wrong. Wages were always higher in capitalist countries than in other countries. They grew steadily over time. Organized labor and state intervention retarded the growth of wages. Just consider the last 8 years.

Every country was "capitalist" apart from the USSR/cuba/north korea.. Rampant income inequality continually grew until labor unions were formed, until the minimum wage. Trying to say these things retarded the growth of wages is idiotic. African countries, places without regulation but allowing capitalists to prosper.. They're literal hell holes. There's a reason people flee to america from haiti or cuba.. both are bad in their own ways. One follows pure socialism, the other unregulated capitalism, more haitians come here then cubans these days though.. The last 8 years? Oh, another genius who wants to blame obama for everything.

Every country was not capitalist prior to the 18th century. They were mostly feudalism. African tribal societies are obviously not capitalist. The king could expropriate everything you owned at the wave of his hand. Only a few European countries had secure legal protections for private property, which is essential for capitalism to function.

You don't even know what capitalism is, yet you feel qualified to criticize it.

How typically liberal.

Oh dear lord, I know what feudalism is, the fact is living conditions were consistently horrible until labor rose up, the IWW, the revolutions in europe, safety laws... Tribal societies? Africa isn't all that tribal anymore bud, it's mercilessly exploited by capitalists, with little to no regulation.

I'm done arguing with you because you're too fucking stupid to get the points I make.

 

[bripat9643]

Your figures don't subtract deaths from accidents and murders. Therefore, the don't measure the true effectiveness of each countries healthcare system.

Oh, shall we go there?
List of countries by intentional homicide rate - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
LOL. Idiot.

What does that prove about socialized medicine?

You said: "The figures don't subtract deaths from murders/accidents."
The US has a high homicide rate compared to other countries/europe, making your point seem like idiocy.
Socialized medicine? I thought we were talking about life expectancy? What about universal healthcare?
WHO Universal health coverage

You're obviously too stupid to follow the argument. I'm done trying to explain calculus to a mule.

Good, go back to your little bubble and worship workplace accidents that were all to common before evil "socialist" regulations.

ROFL! I'll get you think OSHA is responsible for reducing workplace accidents.

 

[David_42]

Oh, shall we go there?
List of countries by intentional homicide rate - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
LOL. Idiot.

What does that prove about socialized medicine?

You said: "The figures don't subtract deaths from murders/accidents."
The US has a high homicide rate compared to other countries/europe, making your point seem like idiocy.
Socialized medicine? I thought we were talking about life expectancy? What about universal healthcare?
WHO Universal health coverage

You're obviously too stupid to follow the argument. I'm done trying to explain calculus to a mule.

Good, go back to your little bubble and worship workplace accidents that were all to common before evil "socialist" regulations.

ROFL! I'll get you think OSHA is responsible for reducing workplace accidents.

How many workplace accidents occured before OSHA?

 

[David_42]

Yes, capitalism usually is better then feudalism/primitive settlements. LOL. Wages stayed low until revolutions happened/labor organized/the state stepped in.

Wrong. Wages were always higher in capitalist countries than in other countries. They grew steadily over time. Organized labor and state intervention retarded the growth of wages. Just consider the last 8 years.

Every country was "capitalist" apart from the USSR/cuba/north korea.. Rampant income inequality continually grew until labor unions were formed, until the minimum wage. Trying to say these things retarded the growth of wages is idiotic. African countries, places without regulation but allowing capitalists to prosper.. They're literal hell holes. There's a reason people flee to america from haiti or cuba.. both are bad in their own ways. One follows pure socialism, the other unregulated capitalism, more haitians come here then cubans these days though.. The last 8 years? Oh, another genius who wants to blame obama for everything.

Every country was not capitalist prior to the 18th century. They were mostly feudalism. African tribal societies are obviously not capitalist. The king could expropriate everything you owned at the wave of his hand. Only a few European countries had secure legal protections for private property, which is essential for capitalism to function.

You don't even know what capitalism is, yet you feel qualified to criticize it.

How typically liberal.

Oh dear lord, I know what feudalism is, the fact is living conditions were consistently horrible until labor rose up, the IWW, the revolutions in europe, safety laws... Tribal societies? Africa isn't all that tribal anymore bud, it's mercilessly exploited by capitalists, with little to no regulation.

I'm done arguing with you because you're too fucking stupid to get the points I make.

Good, go use a time machine and work 60 hours a week as a child.

 

[bripat9643]

What does that prove about socialized medicine?

You said: "The figures don't subtract deaths from murders/accidents."
The US has a high homicide rate compared to other countries/europe, making your point seem like idiocy.
Socialized medicine? I thought we were talking about life expectancy? What about universal healthcare?
WHO Universal health coverage

You're obviously too stupid to follow the argument. I'm done trying to explain calculus to a mule.

Good, go back to your little bubble and worship workplace accidents that were all to common before evil "socialist" regulations.

ROFL! I'll get you think OSHA is responsible for reducing workplace accidents.

How many workplace accidents occur today before OSHA?

I knew it!

 

[David_42]

You said: "The figures don't subtract deaths from murders/accidents."
The US has a high homicide rate compared to other countries/europe, making your point seem like idiocy.
Socialized medicine? I thought we were talking about life expectancy? What about universal healthcare?
WHO Universal health coverage

You're obviously too stupid to follow the argument. I'm done trying to explain calculus to a mule.

Good, go back to your little bubble and worship workplace accidents that were all to common before evil "socialist" regulations.

ROFL! I'll get you think OSHA is responsible for reducing workplace accidents.

How many workplace accidents occur today before OSHA?

I knew it!

Worded wrong.

 

[frigidweirdo]

So one guy makes the Democrats socialists.

Does that mean one racist makes the Republicans racists? One Fascist makes the Republicans Fascists? etc etc etc????

No, they all make them socialists. Name any significant issue that Democrats disagree on

Oh, jeez, any negative word and it's automatically a Democrat. You people must have great fun.

 

[bripat9643]

So one guy makes the Democrats socialists.

Does that mean one racist makes the Republicans racists? One Fascist makes the Republicans Fascists? etc etc etc????

No, they all make them socialists. Name any significant issue that Democrats disagree on

Oh, jeez, any negative word and it's automatically a Democrat. You people must have great fun.

In other words, you can't name an issue Democrats disagree on.

 

[jon_berzerk]

Sure. Social Security and fire departments are pure socialism. You against those too?

yeah tell that to our volunteer fire department out here

Your firefighters may be volunteers but much of your fire department is most likely paid for with taxes and owned by the local government.

Why don't you give us examples of what you believe are actual socialist programs.

nope fuck you

You don't know......coward.

you dumb asses claim the fire department wrongly so is socialism --LOL you bulldog are a joke

 

[BULLDOG]

Sure. Social Security and fire departments are pure socialism. You against those too?

yeah tell that to our volunteer fire department out here

Your firefighters may be volunteers but much of your fire department is most likely paid for with taxes and owned by the local government.

Why don't you give us examples of what you believe are actual socialist programs.

nope fuck you

You don't know......coward.

you dumb asses claim the fire department wrongly so is socialism --LOL you bulldog are a joke

Since you have no idea what socialism is, how would you know? Right wingers have become used to calling every government program they don't like socialism because that sounds scary to them, so in their minds it is synonymous with bad. You are just confused at how a purely socialist program, which you probably like, can be the same as so many you hate. Find out what socialism is and then come back.

 

[jon_berzerk]

yeah tell that to our volunteer fire department out here

Your firefighters may be volunteers but much of your fire department is most likely paid for with taxes and owned by the local government.

Why don't you give us examples of what you believe are actual socialist programs.

nope fuck you

You don't know......coward.

you dumb asses claim the fire department wrongly so is socialism --LOL you bulldog are a joke

Since you have no idea what socialism is, how would you know? Right wingers have become used to calling every government program they don't like socialism because that sounds scary to them, so in their minds it is synonymous with bad. You are just confused at how a purely socialist program, which you probably like, can be the same as so many you hate. Find out what socialism is and then come back.

you are a joke

 

[BULLDOG]

Your firefighters may be volunteers but much of your fire department is most likely paid for with taxes and owned by the local government.

Why don't you give us examples of what you believe are actual socialist programs.

nope fuck you

You don't know......coward.

you dumb asses claim the fire department wrongly so is socialism --LOL you bulldog are a joke

Since you have no idea what socialism is, how would you know? Right wingers have become used to calling every government program they don't like socialism because that sounds scary to them, so in their minds it is synonymous with bad. You are just confused at how a purely socialist program, which you probably like, can be the same as so many you hate. Find out what socialism is and then come back.

you are a joke

You are an idiot that can't prove me wrong.

 

[CowboyTed]

yeah tell that to our volunteer fire department out here

Your firefighters may be volunteers but much of your fire department is most likely paid for with taxes and owned by the local government.

Why don't you give us examples of what you believe are actual socialist programs.

nope fuck you

You don't know......coward.

you dumb asses claim the fire department wrongly so is socialism --LOL you bulldog are a joke

Since you have no idea what socialism is, how would you know? Right wingers have become used to calling every government program they don't like socialism because that sounds scary to them, so in their minds it is synonymous with bad. You are just confused at how a purely socialist program, which you probably like, can be the same as so many you hate. Find out what socialism is and then come back.

The best one is where some RWers think it is not Socialism if it is local government and it has to be federal government for it to be socialism.

What is there reason for the Military, I forgot...

 

[kaz]

So one guy makes the Democrats socialists.

Does that mean one racist makes the Republicans racists? One Fascist makes the Republicans Fascists? etc etc etc????

No, they all make them socialists. Name any significant issue that Democrats disagree on

Oh, jeez, any negative word and it's automatically a Democrat. You people must have great fun.

Funny how you disagreed with my post, yet you couldn't answer the question. Don't worry, none of you can. You gave the stereotype liberal answer. What? That's ridiculous! Example? Crickets...

Here is the question you whiffed on again: "Name any significant issue that Democrats disagree on"

BTW, I'll be back in Europe again next week, we can resume our middle of the night debates