Will those who take great pride in casting a vote that doesn't matter vote for nothing again in 2020

do you suck your "parties" ass loser?

Nope, I stick it to them by voting for Hulk Hogan...See, the duopoly loses when I do that...right?
you said 36 people,,the libertarians got 1.3 million,,so are you with them or not???

Are you bragging?
They garnered the support of one small city in Mexifornia?

If libertarians are so inconsequential, why do you invest so much of your time attacking them? ;)

I "attack" all silly whacks...it's what I do for entertainment in cyberspace.

Maybe. Or maybe libertarians just really get under your skin because they highlight your rank hypocrisy and stupidity. They expose you for the authoritarian douchebag that you are. Maybe.

The Lib Party fucks themselves by not supporting America's right to sovereignty....They'll never appeal to core Americans with that bullshit. The Party seems to be comprised of a bunch of careless hippy stoners.

"Libertarians believe that if someone is peaceful, they should be welcome to immigrate to the United States.
Libertarians believe that people should be able to travel freely as long as they are peaceful. We welcome immigrants who come seeking a better life. The vast majority of immigrants are very peaceful and highly productive.
Indeed, the United States is a country of immigrants, of all backgrounds and walks of life…some families have just been here for more generations than others. Newcomers bring great vitality to our society.
A truly free market requires the free movement of people, not just products and ideas.
Whether they are from India or Mexico, whether they have advanced degrees or very little education, immigrants have one great thing in common: they bravely left their familiar surroundings in search of a better life. Many are fleeing extreme poverty and violence and are searching for a free and safe place to try to build their lives. We respect and admire their courage and are proud that they see the United States as a place of freedom, stability, and prosperity.
Of course, if someone has a record of violence, credible plans for violence, or acts violently, then Libertarians support blocking their entry, deporting, and/or prosecuting and imprisoning them, depending on the offense.
Libertarians do not support classifying undocumented immigrants as criminals. Our current immigration system is an embarrassment. People who would like to follow the legal procedures are unable to because these procedures are so complex and expensive and lengthy. If Americans want immigrants to enter through legal channels, we need to make those channels fair, reasonable, and accessible."

You clearly do not understand the concept and principle.

Will it really matter who comes here if we end all the social programs, free markets prevail, and the cost of employing an American is not greater than that to employ an illegal?

The only reason I oppose illegal immigration is because of the ass-backwards GOVERNMENT interference in employment practices of American employers, which is the only thing making employment of illegals attractive.

Government is the problem. Every fucking time.

.

Hey man look...I don't disagree with much of what you say and stand for...But that reality shit gets in the way...Unfortunately, this nation will never get away from social programs; there's just way too many here whom vote solely for free shit.
As far as sovereignty goes...what about that little Declaration Of Independence thing...how do you have a country without having a closed border?
the failure at the border is a result of dems and repubes not doing their job and enforcing the laws and giving free shit to those that enter both legal and illegal,,,
 
do you suck your "parties" ass loser?

Nope, I stick it to them by voting for Hulk Hogan...See, the duopoly loses when I do that...right?
you said 36 people,,the libertarians got 1.3 million,,so are you with them or not???

Are you bragging?
They garnered the support of one small city in Mexifornia?

If libertarians are so inconsequential, why do you invest so much of your time attacking them? ;)

I "attack" all silly whacks...it's what I do for entertainment in cyberspace.

Maybe. Or maybe libertarians just really get under your skin because they highlight your rank hypocrisy and stupidity. They expose you for the authoritarian douchebag that you are. Maybe.

The Lib Party fucks themselves by not supporting America's right to sovereignty....They'll never appeal to core Americans with that bullshit. The Party seems to be comprised of a bunch of careless hippy stoners.

"Libertarians believe that if someone is peaceful, they should be welcome to immigrate to the United States.
Libertarians believe that people should be able to travel freely as long as they are peaceful. We welcome immigrants who come seeking a better life. The vast majority of immigrants are very peaceful and highly productive.
Indeed, the United States is a country of immigrants, of all backgrounds and walks of life…some families have just been here for more generations than others. Newcomers bring great vitality to our society.
A truly free market requires the free movement of people, not just products and ideas.
Whether they are from India or Mexico, whether they have advanced degrees or very little education, immigrants have one great thing in common: they bravely left their familiar surroundings in search of a better life. Many are fleeing extreme poverty and violence and are searching for a free and safe place to try to build their lives. We respect and admire their courage and are proud that they see the United States as a place of freedom, stability, and prosperity.
Of course, if someone has a record of violence, credible plans for violence, or acts violently, then Libertarians support blocking their entry, deporting, and/or prosecuting and imprisoning them, depending on the offense.
Libertarians do not support classifying undocumented immigrants as criminals. Our current immigration system is an embarrassment. People who would like to follow the legal procedures are unable to because these procedures are so complex and expensive and lengthy. If Americans want immigrants to enter through legal channels, we need to make those channels fair, reasonable, and accessible."

You clearly do not understand the concept and principle.

Will it really matter who comes here if we end all the social programs, free markets prevail, and the cost of employing an American is not greater than that to employ an illegal?

The only reason I oppose illegal immigration is because of the ass-backwards GOVERNMENT interference in employment practices of American employers, which is the only thing making employment of illegals attractive.

Government is the problem. Every fucking time.

.

Hey man look...I don't disagree with much of what you say and stand for...But that reality shit gets in the way...Unfortunately, this nation will never get away from social programs; there's just way too many here whom vote solely for free shit.
As far as sovereignty goes...what about that little Declaration Of Independence thing...how do you have a country without having a closed border?
the failure at the border is a result of dems and repubes not doing their job and enforcing the laws and giving free shit to those that enter both legal and illegal,,,

I agree.
 
do you suck your "parties" ass loser?

Nope, I stick it to them by voting for Hulk Hogan...See, the duopoly loses when I do that...right?
you said 36 people,,the libertarians got 1.3 million,,so are you with them or not???

Are you bragging?
They garnered the support of one small city in Mexifornia?

If libertarians are so inconsequential, why do you invest so much of your time attacking them? ;)

I "attack" all silly whacks...it's what I do for entertainment in cyberspace.

Maybe. Or maybe libertarians just really get under your skin because they highlight your rank hypocrisy and stupidity. They expose you for the authoritarian douchebag that you are. Maybe.

The Lib Party fucks themselves by not supporting America's right to sovereignty....They'll never appeal to core Americans with that bullshit. The Party seems to be comprised of a bunch of careless hippy stoners.

"Libertarians believe that if someone is peaceful, they should be welcome to immigrate to the United States.
Libertarians believe that people should be able to travel freely as long as they are peaceful. We welcome immigrants who come seeking a better life. The vast majority of immigrants are very peaceful and highly productive.
Indeed, the United States is a country of immigrants, of all backgrounds and walks of life…some families have just been here for more generations than others. Newcomers bring great vitality to our society.
A truly free market requires the free movement of people, not just products and ideas.
Whether they are from India or Mexico, whether they have advanced degrees or very little education, immigrants have one great thing in common: they bravely left their familiar surroundings in search of a better life. Many are fleeing extreme poverty and violence and are searching for a free and safe place to try to build their lives. We respect and admire their courage and are proud that they see the United States as a place of freedom, stability, and prosperity.
Of course, if someone has a record of violence, credible plans for violence, or acts violently, then Libertarians support blocking their entry, deporting, and/or prosecuting and imprisoning them, depending on the offense.
Libertarians do not support classifying undocumented immigrants as criminals. Our current immigration system is an embarrassment. People who would like to follow the legal procedures are unable to because these procedures are so complex and expensive and lengthy. If Americans want immigrants to enter through legal channels, we need to make those channels fair, reasonable, and accessible."

You clearly do not understand the concept and principle.

Will it really matter who comes here if we end all the social programs, free markets prevail, and the cost of employing an American is not greater than that to employ an illegal?

The only reason I oppose illegal immigration is because of the ass-backwards GOVERNMENT interference in employment practices of American employers, which is the only thing making employment of illegals attractive.

Government is the problem. Every fucking time.

.

Hey man look...I don't disagree with much of what you say and stand for...But that reality shit gets in the way...Unfortunately, this nation will never get away from social programs; there's just way too many here whom vote solely for free shit.
As far as sovereignty goes...what about that little Declaration Of Independence thing...how do you have a country without having a closed border?
the failure at the border is a result of dems and repubes not doing their job and enforcing the laws and giving free shit to those that enter both legal and illegal,,,

I agree.
and yet you want me to vote for one of them,,,
 
do you suck your "parties" ass loser?

Nope, I stick it to them by voting for Hulk Hogan...See, the duopoly loses when I do that...right?
you said 36 people,,the libertarians got 1.3 million,,so are you with them or not???

Are you bragging?
They garnered the support of one small city in Mexifornia?

If libertarians are so inconsequential, why do you invest so much of your time attacking them? ;)

I "attack" all silly whacks...it's what I do for entertainment in cyberspace.

Maybe. Or maybe libertarians just really get under your skin because they highlight your rank hypocrisy and stupidity. They expose you for the authoritarian douchebag that you are. Maybe.

The Lib Party fucks themselves by not supporting America's right to sovereignty....They'll never appeal to core Americans with that bullshit. The Party seems to be comprised of a bunch of careless hippy stoners.

"Libertarians believe that if someone is peaceful, they should be welcome to immigrate to the United States.
Libertarians believe that people should be able to travel freely as long as they are peaceful. We welcome immigrants who come seeking a better life. The vast majority of immigrants are very peaceful and highly productive.
Indeed, the United States is a country of immigrants, of all backgrounds and walks of life…some families have just been here for more generations than others. Newcomers bring great vitality to our society.
A truly free market requires the free movement of people, not just products and ideas.
Whether they are from India or Mexico, whether they have advanced degrees or very little education, immigrants have one great thing in common: they bravely left their familiar surroundings in search of a better life. Many are fleeing extreme poverty and violence and are searching for a free and safe place to try to build their lives. We respect and admire their courage and are proud that they see the United States as a place of freedom, stability, and prosperity.
Of course, if someone has a record of violence, credible plans for violence, or acts violently, then Libertarians support blocking their entry, deporting, and/or prosecuting and imprisoning them, depending on the offense.
Libertarians do not support classifying undocumented immigrants as criminals. Our current immigration system is an embarrassment. People who would like to follow the legal procedures are unable to because these procedures are so complex and expensive and lengthy. If Americans want immigrants to enter through legal channels, we need to make those channels fair, reasonable, and accessible."

You clearly do not understand the concept and principle.

Will it really matter who comes here if we end all the social programs, free markets prevail, and the cost of employing an American is not greater than that to employ an illegal?

The only reason I oppose illegal immigration is because of the ass-backwards GOVERNMENT interference in employment practices of American employers, which is the only thing making employment of illegals attractive.

Government is the problem. Every fucking time.

.

Hey man look...I don't disagree with much of what you say and stand for...But that reality shit gets in the way...Unfortunately, this nation will never get away from social programs; there's just way too many here whom vote solely for free shit.
As far as sovereignty goes...what about that little Declaration Of Independence thing...how do you have a country without having a closed border?
the failure at the border is a result of dems and repubes not doing their job and enforcing the laws and giving free shit to those that enter both legal and illegal,,,

I agree.
and yet you want me to vote for one of them,,,
NEGATIVE...I want you to vote for the candidate who promises to shut the border down.
 
I always looked at my vote for a non-major party candidate as a matter of protest, not pride. I look upon those that can't see beyond Democrats and Republicans as being much like computers, limited in their understanding to only 0's and 1's.

How's that working for you?
You getting your guy in national elections?

Being self reliant and adaptive to the situation as it presents itself has been working out mighty fine.

Lets not move the goalpost...we're talking about politics and voting...remember?

I have no idea what you mean. I answered how things have worked out me.

In 5 of the 12 presidential elections I voted for a Democrat or Republican. Some won and some lost, but no matter the result my feeling regarding presidential elections is that whatever the result, nothing is really going to change. I hold no pollyannish feeling about what powers are running this country.
 
Sane folks won't be voting for Trump, so be careful what you argue for.

Just curious....to put things in proper perspective.....

Did "Sane" people vote for Hillary Clinton ?
Sure did

The déplorables voted for Trump, we are paying a price
all your side is showing RW is that you cant accept the results of an election......you dont like the guy come up with someone with at least a likability factor to start off...
What we are showing is we were right when we said Trump lacks the skills and temperament to be president
sounds like an excuse.....with all the people in this country in your party, if the ones you have put up each presidential election cycle is the best you have.....then your party has no business bad mouthing the shit the republicans put up.....
Of course we do

We saw the Trump Trainwreck coming and warned people what would happen

Now, we are in the middle of a pandemic and all we can say is
Told you so
of course we do what?.....
 
do you suck your "parties" ass loser?

Nope, I stick it to them by voting for Hulk Hogan...See, the duopoly loses when I do that...right?
you said 36 people,,the libertarians got 1.3 million,,so are you with them or not???

Are you bragging?
They garnered the support of one small city in Mexifornia?

If libertarians are so inconsequential, why do you invest so much of your time attacking them? ;)

I "attack" all silly whacks...it's what I do for entertainment in cyberspace.

Maybe. Or maybe libertarians just really get under your skin because they highlight your rank hypocrisy and stupidity. They expose you for the authoritarian douchebag that you are. Maybe.

The Lib Party fucks themselves by not supporting America's right to sovereignty....They'll never appeal to core Americans with that bullshit. The Party seems to be comprised of a bunch of careless hippy stoners.

"Libertarians believe that if someone is peaceful, they should be welcome to immigrate to the United States.
Libertarians believe that people should be able to travel freely as long as they are peaceful. We welcome immigrants who come seeking a better life. The vast majority of immigrants are very peaceful and highly productive.
Indeed, the United States is a country of immigrants, of all backgrounds and walks of life…some families have just been here for more generations than others. Newcomers bring great vitality to our society.
A truly free market requires the free movement of people, not just products and ideas.
Whether they are from India or Mexico, whether they have advanced degrees or very little education, immigrants have one great thing in common: they bravely left their familiar surroundings in search of a better life. Many are fleeing extreme poverty and violence and are searching for a free and safe place to try to build their lives. We respect and admire their courage and are proud that they see the United States as a place of freedom, stability, and prosperity.
Of course, if someone has a record of violence, credible plans for violence, or acts violently, then Libertarians support blocking their entry, deporting, and/or prosecuting and imprisoning them, depending on the offense.
Libertarians do not support classifying undocumented immigrants as criminals. Our current immigration system is an embarrassment. People who would like to follow the legal procedures are unable to because these procedures are so complex and expensive and lengthy. If Americans want immigrants to enter through legal channels, we need to make those channels fair, reasonable, and accessible."

You clearly do not understand the concept and principle.

Will it really matter who comes here if we end all the social programs, free markets prevail, and the cost of employing an American is not greater than that to employ an illegal?

The only reason I oppose illegal immigration is because of the ass-backwards GOVERNMENT interference in employment practices of American employers, which is the only thing making employment of illegals attractive.

Government is the problem. Every fucking time.

.

Hey man look...I don't disagree with much of what you say and stand for...But that reality shit gets in the way...Unfortunately, this nation will never get away from social programs; there's just way too many here whom vote solely for free shit.
As far as sovereignty goes...what about that little Declaration Of Independence thing...how do you have a country without having a closed border?
the failure at the border is a result of dems and repubes not doing their job and enforcing the laws and giving free shit to those that enter both legal and illegal,,,

I agree.
and yet you want me to vote for one of them,,,
NEGATIVE...I want you to vote for the candidate who promises to shut the border down.
what do you mean shut down???
 
So tell us, will you vote for Hulk Hogan or the like again in 2020?

Last year as I sat at the table with my mail-in ballot the choice for US Senator was between Martha McSally and Kyrsten Sinema. My old way would have been to randomly pick anybody else listed. Since over the past 38 years that wasn't getting anywhere I finally gave up. Now in races where I simply don't have a preference, I'll go along with the wife's choice. So Kyrsten Sinema it was. Took almost a week to determine the winner for that office, so it did give me a sense that my wife's votes mattered.

In all likelihood next year she'll produce 2 votes for the Democrat but I doubt that it'll matter this time around.

Good on you for having the sense to cast a vote that you believed had a real chance to matter. It’s a no-brainer for most of us to vote for or against something / someone.

I know you're too stupid to understand this, but a vote "matters" regardless of whether the candidate you voted for wins. It counts, as in gets counted, and recorded as support for what you believe in. That is, unless you vote for a candidate you don't actually believe in because you are scared of some other candidate. That's actually worse than a wasted vote. It's a dishonest vote. If you wanna be a liar when you go to the polls, have it it. I'll pass.

Haha...that’s really the problem with you weirdos...you honestly believe that voting against something is a ”waste” and “dishonest”?
It’s weird that you people can’t wrap your peanut sized minds around the fact that only two parties have a chance at winning a national election.
and as long as you fucking party people have that mindset it will never change...cut the party cord loser......and backup what you say and leave california...what the hell is the matter with you?......its like a different world out here.....
I’ll do it again in 2020 with a song in my heart. I am not going to vote against my own principles so the partisans sycophants can open a bottle of Dom on election night. Fuck that noise.

haha...you honestly believe that you'll stop the duopoly from celebrating a victory if you stay "principled"....SERIOUSLY?
stopping them has nothing to do with it,,,I cant and wont vote for someone that I believe will violate your or my rights,,,

Your logic sounds cool as fuck but it's extremely flawed...You see, one of two candidates will win regardless of your noble 'I'm a total badass' position....For sane folks it only makes perfect sense to vote for the candidate you hate the least as none of us love all things any politician stands for. For the most part this shit is third grade level rationale. Let go of the tough guy shit and see things in total clarity.
so if I vote for one of them and they violate your rights doesnt that make me partially responsible for that violation?? more so because I knew they would do it???

sorry my choice hurts your feelings but I will never vote for a person or group of people that I know will bring harm to you, me or another person,,,

Again, your nobility is noted...you are a total badass and obviously super cool....BUT will that stop one of the two parties from winning and "violating" our rights?
voting isnt about voting for who will win,,,

Like drafting a player to help your team win as many games as possible.
You may not always get to choose the most desirable player but that doesn't mean you should say fuck it and draft Rocky Balboa because he makes you feel warm and fuzzy inside....he doesn't have a chance at making your team better. Simple shit...third grade level shit
not even close,,,
The exact same shit...scary to admit huh?
no its not,,,,

tell you what,,if you repubes want my vote then start undoing the democrat agenda starting with gun control laws and maybe a few of the abusive agencies,,,and then we can talk about me joining your team,,,
I’ll do it again in 2020 with a song in my heart. I am not going to vote against my own principles so the partisans sycophants can open a bottle of Dom on election night. Fuck that noise.

haha...you honestly believe that you'll stop the duopoly from celebrating a victory if you stay "principled"....SERIOUSLY?

Of course not. I can't stop you blind partisans from celebrating and toasting to your own demise. I just don't want any part it, which is why neither major candidate has earned my vote.


Long ago my grandfather told me..."Kid, in some elections you'll vote for your guy....in other elections you won't vote for someone but against someone."
He'd always say..."Don't waste a vote, make your vote count."
He would never want me to cast a wasted vote for Hulk Hogan.
in other words pick one of the parties and start kissing their asses.....

NEGATIVE....This shit isn't complicated for anyone even half sane...."MAKE YOUR VOTE COUNT"
Does a vote for Hulk Hogan COUNT?
so i should vote for one, even if both are piles of shit?...what a wasted vote.....no wonder we are in the shape we are in.....party people like you are part of the problem....
 
do you suck your "parties" ass loser?

Nope, I stick it to them by voting for Hulk Hogan...See, the duopoly loses when I do that...right?
you said 36 people,,the libertarians got 1.3 million,,so are you with them or not???

Are you bragging?
They garnered the support of one small city in Mexifornia?

If libertarians are so inconsequential, why do you invest so much of your time attacking them? ;)

I "attack" all silly whacks...it's what I do for entertainment in cyberspace.
funny thats why many here have said they get on you....you whacks must be all alike......lol...
 
do you suck your "parties" ass loser?

Nope, I stick it to them by voting for Hulk Hogan...See, the duopoly loses when I do that...right?
yea voting for the same old shit is really sticking it to them....take your lips off their asses you look foolish.....
Hold on...I look foolish for voting for the guy who won in 2016...OR does the ignorant fuck who wrote in Mickey Mouse look foolish?
 
So tell us, will you vote for Hulk Hogan or the like again in 2020?

Last year as I sat at the table with my mail-in ballot the choice for US Senator was between Martha McSally and Kyrsten Sinema. My old way would have been to randomly pick anybody else listed. Since over the past 38 years that wasn't getting anywhere I finally gave up. Now in races where I simply don't have a preference, I'll go along with the wife's choice. So Kyrsten Sinema it was. Took almost a week to determine the winner for that office, so it did give me a sense that my wife's votes mattered.

In all likelihood next year she'll produce 2 votes for the Democrat but I doubt that it'll matter this time around.

Good on you for having the sense to cast a vote that you believed had a real chance to matter. It’s a no-brainer for most of us to vote for or against something / someone.

I know you're too stupid to understand this, but a vote "matters" regardless of whether the candidate you voted for wins. It counts, as in gets counted, and recorded as support for what you believe in. That is, unless you vote for a candidate you don't actually believe in because you are scared of some other candidate. That's actually worse than a wasted vote. It's a dishonest vote. If you wanna be a liar when you go to the polls, have it it. I'll pass.

Haha...that’s really the problem with you weirdos...you honestly believe that voting against something is a ”waste” and “dishonest”?
It’s weird that you people can’t wrap your peanut sized minds around the fact that only two parties have a chance at winning a national election.
and as long as you fucking party people have that mindset it will never change...cut the party cord loser......and backup what you say and leave california...what the hell is the matter with you?......its like a different world out here.....
I’ll do it again in 2020 with a song in my heart. I am not going to vote against my own principles so the partisans sycophants can open a bottle of Dom on election night. Fuck that noise.

haha...you honestly believe that you'll stop the duopoly from celebrating a victory if you stay "principled"....SERIOUSLY?
stopping them has nothing to do with it,,,I cant and wont vote for someone that I believe will violate your or my rights,,,

Your logic sounds cool as fuck but it's extremely flawed...You see, one of two candidates will win regardless of your noble 'I'm a total badass' position....For sane folks it only makes perfect sense to vote for the candidate you hate the least as none of us love all things any politician stands for. For the most part this shit is third grade level rationale. Let go of the tough guy shit and see things in total clarity.
so if I vote for one of them and they violate your rights doesnt that make me partially responsible for that violation?? more so because I knew they would do it???

sorry my choice hurts your feelings but I will never vote for a person or group of people that I know will bring harm to you, me or another person,,,

Again, your nobility is noted...you are a total badass and obviously super cool....BUT will that stop one of the two parties from winning and "violating" our rights?
voting isnt about voting for who will win,,,

Like drafting a player to help your team win as many games as possible.
You may not always get to choose the most desirable player but that doesn't mean you should say fuck it and draft Rocky Balboa because he makes you feel warm and fuzzy inside....he doesn't have a chance at making your team better. Simple shit...third grade level shit
not even close,,,
The exact same shit...scary to admit huh?
no its not,,,,

tell you what,,if you repubes want my vote then start undoing the democrat agenda starting with gun control laws and maybe a few of the abusive agencies,,,and then we can talk about me joining your team,,,
I’ll do it again in 2020 with a song in my heart. I am not going to vote against my own principles so the partisans sycophants can open a bottle of Dom on election night. Fuck that noise.

haha...you honestly believe that you'll stop the duopoly from celebrating a victory if you stay "principled"....SERIOUSLY?

Of course not. I can't stop you blind partisans from celebrating and toasting to your own demise. I just don't want any part it, which is why neither major candidate has earned my vote.


Long ago my grandfather told me..."Kid, in some elections you'll vote for your guy....in other elections you won't vote for someone but against someone."
He'd always say..."Don't waste a vote, make your vote count."
He would never want me to cast a wasted vote for Hulk Hogan.
in other words pick one of the parties and start kissing their asses.....

NEGATIVE....This shit isn't complicated for anyone even half sane...."MAKE YOUR VOTE COUNT"
Does a vote for Hulk Hogan COUNT?
if hes on the ballot then yes it counts,,,

haha...stay with that loony logic...I'm certain that you'll get your guy one century...hahaha
Meanwhile keep allowing others to decide your fate...I'm sure that's working SWEET for you.
you are allowing others to decide your fate too....how are you any different?.......
 
So tell us, will you vote for Hulk Hogan or the like again in 2020?

Last year as I sat at the table with my mail-in ballot the choice for US Senator was between Martha McSally and Kyrsten Sinema. My old way would have been to randomly pick anybody else listed. Since over the past 38 years that wasn't getting anywhere I finally gave up. Now in races where I simply don't have a preference, I'll go along with the wife's choice. So Kyrsten Sinema it was. Took almost a week to determine the winner for that office, so it did give me a sense that my wife's votes mattered.

In all likelihood next year she'll produce 2 votes for the Democrat but I doubt that it'll matter this time around.

Good on you for having the sense to cast a vote that you believed had a real chance to matter. It’s a no-brainer for most of us to vote for or against something / someone.

I know you're too stupid to understand this, but a vote "matters" regardless of whether the candidate you voted for wins. It counts, as in gets counted, and recorded as support for what you believe in. That is, unless you vote for a candidate you don't actually believe in because you are scared of some other candidate. That's actually worse than a wasted vote. It's a dishonest vote. If you wanna be a liar when you go to the polls, have it it. I'll pass.

Haha...that’s really the problem with you weirdos...you honestly believe that voting against something is a ”waste” and “dishonest”?
It’s weird that you people can’t wrap your peanut sized minds around the fact that only two parties have a chance at winning a national election.
and as long as you fucking party people have that mindset it will never change...cut the party cord loser......and backup what you say and leave california...what the hell is the matter with you?......its like a different world out here.....
I’ll do it again in 2020 with a song in my heart. I am not going to vote against my own principles so the partisans sycophants can open a bottle of Dom on election night. Fuck that noise.

haha...you honestly believe that you'll stop the duopoly from celebrating a victory if you stay "principled"....SERIOUSLY?
stopping them has nothing to do with it,,,I cant and wont vote for someone that I believe will violate your or my rights,,,

Your logic sounds cool as fuck but it's extremely flawed...You see, one of two candidates will win regardless of your noble 'I'm a total badass' position....For sane folks it only makes perfect sense to vote for the candidate you hate the least as none of us love all things any politician stands for. For the most part this shit is third grade level rationale. Let go of the tough guy shit and see things in total clarity.
so if I vote for one of them and they violate your rights doesnt that make me partially responsible for that violation?? more so because I knew they would do it???

sorry my choice hurts your feelings but I will never vote for a person or group of people that I know will bring harm to you, me or another person,,,

Again, your nobility is noted...you are a total badass and obviously super cool....BUT will that stop one of the two parties from winning and "violating" our rights?
voting isnt about voting for who will win,,,

Like drafting a player to help your team win as many games as possible.
You may not always get to choose the most desirable player but that doesn't mean you should say fuck it and draft Rocky Balboa because he makes you feel warm and fuzzy inside....he doesn't have a chance at making your team better. Simple shit...third grade level shit
not even close,,,
The exact same shit...scary to admit huh?
no its not,,,,

tell you what,,if you repubes want my vote then start undoing the democrat agenda starting with gun control laws and maybe a few of the abusive agencies,,,and then we can talk about me joining your team,,,
I’ll do it again in 2020 with a song in my heart. I am not going to vote against my own principles so the partisans sycophants can open a bottle of Dom on election night. Fuck that noise.

haha...you honestly believe that you'll stop the duopoly from celebrating a victory if you stay "principled"....SERIOUSLY?

Of course not. I can't stop you blind partisans from celebrating and toasting to your own demise. I just don't want any part it, which is why neither major candidate has earned my vote.


Long ago my grandfather told me..."Kid, in some elections you'll vote for your guy....in other elections you won't vote for someone but against someone."
He'd always say..."Don't waste a vote, make your vote count."
He would never want me to cast a wasted vote for Hulk Hogan.
in other words pick one of the parties and start kissing their asses.....

NEGATIVE....This shit isn't complicated for anyone even half sane...."MAKE YOUR VOTE COUNT"
Does a vote for Hulk Hogan COUNT?
so i should vote for one, even if both are piles of shit?...what a wasted vote.....no wonder we are in the shape we are in.....party people like you are part of the problem....

Look, all you have to do is tell us how you voting for Mickey Mouse changes the outcome...Simple shit...GO!
 
do you suck your "parties" ass loser?

Nope, I stick it to them by voting for Hulk Hogan...See, the duopoly loses when I do that...right?
you said 36 people,,the libertarians got 1.3 million,,so are you with them or not???

Are you bragging?
They garnered the support of one small city in Mexifornia?

If libertarians are so inconsequential, why do you invest so much of your time attacking them? ;)

I "attack" all silly whacks...it's what I do for entertainment in cyberspace.

Maybe. Or maybe libertarians just really get under your skin because they highlight your rank hypocrisy and stupidity. They expose you for the authoritarian douchebag that you are. Maybe.

The Lib Party fucks themselves by not supporting America's right to sovereignty....They'll never appeal to core Americans with that bullshit. The Party seems to be comprised of a bunch of careless hippy stoners.

"Libertarians believe that if someone is peaceful, they should be welcome to immigrate to the United States.
Libertarians believe that people should be able to travel freely as long as they are peaceful. We welcome immigrants who come seeking a better life. The vast majority of immigrants are very peaceful and highly productive.
Indeed, the United States is a country of immigrants, of all backgrounds and walks of life…some families have just been here for more generations than others. Newcomers bring great vitality to our society.
A truly free market requires the free movement of people, not just products and ideas.
Whether they are from India or Mexico, whether they have advanced degrees or very little education, immigrants have one great thing in common: they bravely left their familiar surroundings in search of a better life. Many are fleeing extreme poverty and violence and are searching for a free and safe place to try to build their lives. We respect and admire their courage and are proud that they see the United States as a place of freedom, stability, and prosperity.
Of course, if someone has a record of violence, credible plans for violence, or acts violently, then Libertarians support blocking their entry, deporting, and/or prosecuting and imprisoning them, depending on the offense.
Libertarians do not support classifying undocumented immigrants as criminals. Our current immigration system is an embarrassment. People who would like to follow the legal procedures are unable to because these procedures are so complex and expensive and lengthy. If Americans want immigrants to enter through legal channels, we need to make those channels fair, reasonable, and accessible."

You clearly do not understand the concept and principle.

Will it really matter who comes here if we end all the social programs, free markets prevail, and the cost of employing an American is not greater than that to employ an illegal?

The only reason I oppose illegal immigration is because of the ass-backwards GOVERNMENT interference in employment practices of American employers, which is the only thing making employment of illegals attractive.

Government is the problem. Every fucking time.

.

Hey man look...I don't disagree with much of what you say and stand for...But that reality shit gets in the way...Unfortunately, this nation will never get away from social programs; there's just way too many here whom vote solely for free shit.
As far as sovereignty goes...what about that little Declaration Of Independence thing...how do you have a country without having a closed border?
the failure at the border is a result of dems and repubes not doing their job and enforcing the laws and giving free shit to those that enter both legal and illegal,,,

I agree.
and yet you want me to vote for one of them,,,
NEGATIVE...I want you to vote for the candidate who promises to shut the border down.
what do you mean shut down???

I mean NOBODY crosses it unless real Americans approve.
 
So tell us, will you vote for Hulk Hogan or the like again in 2020?

Last year as I sat at the table with my mail-in ballot the choice for US Senator was between Martha McSally and Kyrsten Sinema. My old way would have been to randomly pick anybody else listed. Since over the past 38 years that wasn't getting anywhere I finally gave up. Now in races where I simply don't have a preference, I'll go along with the wife's choice. So Kyrsten Sinema it was. Took almost a week to determine the winner for that office, so it did give me a sense that my wife's votes mattered.

In all likelihood next year she'll produce 2 votes for the Democrat but I doubt that it'll matter this time around.

Good on you for having the sense to cast a vote that you believed had a real chance to matter. It’s a no-brainer for most of us to vote for or against something / someone.

I know you're too stupid to understand this, but a vote "matters" regardless of whether the candidate you voted for wins. It counts, as in gets counted, and recorded as support for what you believe in. That is, unless you vote for a candidate you don't actually believe in because you are scared of some other candidate. That's actually worse than a wasted vote. It's a dishonest vote. If you wanna be a liar when you go to the polls, have it it. I'll pass.

Haha...that’s really the problem with you weirdos...you honestly believe that voting against something is a ”waste” and “dishonest”?
It’s weird that you people can’t wrap your peanut sized minds around the fact that only two parties have a chance at winning a national election.
and as long as you fucking party people have that mindset it will never change...cut the party cord loser......and backup what you say and leave california...what the hell is the matter with you?......its like a different world out here.....
I’ll do it again in 2020 with a song in my heart. I am not going to vote against my own principles so the partisans sycophants can open a bottle of Dom on election night. Fuck that noise.

haha...you honestly believe that you'll stop the duopoly from celebrating a victory if you stay "principled"....SERIOUSLY?
stopping them has nothing to do with it,,,I cant and wont vote for someone that I believe will violate your or my rights,,,

Your logic sounds cool as fuck but it's extremely flawed...You see, one of two candidates will win regardless of your noble 'I'm a total badass' position....For sane folks it only makes perfect sense to vote for the candidate you hate the least as none of us love all things any politician stands for. For the most part this shit is third grade level rationale. Let go of the tough guy shit and see things in total clarity.
so if I vote for one of them and they violate your rights doesnt that make me partially responsible for that violation?? more so because I knew they would do it???

sorry my choice hurts your feelings but I will never vote for a person or group of people that I know will bring harm to you, me or another person,,,

Again, your nobility is noted...you are a total badass and obviously super cool....BUT will that stop one of the two parties from winning and "violating" our rights?
voting isnt about voting for who will win,,,

Like drafting a player to help your team win as many games as possible.
You may not always get to choose the most desirable player but that doesn't mean you should say fuck it and draft Rocky Balboa because he makes you feel warm and fuzzy inside....he doesn't have a chance at making your team better. Simple shit...third grade level shit
not even close,,,
The exact same shit...scary to admit huh?
no its not,,,,

tell you what,,if you repubes want my vote then start undoing the democrat agenda starting with gun control laws and maybe a few of the abusive agencies,,,and then we can talk about me joining your team,,,
I’ll do it again in 2020 with a song in my heart. I am not going to vote against my own principles so the partisans sycophants can open a bottle of Dom on election night. Fuck that noise.

haha...you honestly believe that you'll stop the duopoly from celebrating a victory if you stay "principled"....SERIOUSLY?

Of course not. I can't stop you blind partisans from celebrating and toasting to your own demise. I just don't want any part it, which is why neither major candidate has earned my vote.


Long ago my grandfather told me..."Kid, in some elections you'll vote for your guy....in other elections you won't vote for someone but against someone."
He'd always say..."Don't waste a vote, make your vote count."
He would never want me to cast a wasted vote for Hulk Hogan.
in other words pick one of the parties and start kissing their asses.....

NEGATIVE....This shit isn't complicated for anyone even half sane...."MAKE YOUR VOTE COUNT"
Does a vote for Hulk Hogan COUNT?
if hes on the ballot then yes it counts,,,

haha...stay with that loony logic...I'm certain that you'll get your guy one century...hahaha
Meanwhile keep allowing others to decide your fate...I'm sure that's working SWEET for you.
you are allowing others to decide your fate too....how are you any different?.......

How so? I elected Trump...I never encouraged anybody to vote for Mickey Mouse
 
do you suck your "parties" ass loser?

Nope, I stick it to them by voting for Hulk Hogan...See, the duopoly loses when I do that...right?
you said 36 people,,the libertarians got 1.3 million,,so are you with them or not???

Are you bragging?
They garnered the support of one small city in Mexifornia?

If libertarians are so inconsequential, why do you invest so much of your time attacking them? ;)

I "attack" all silly whacks...it's what I do for entertainment in cyberspace.

Maybe. Or maybe libertarians just really get under your skin because they highlight your rank hypocrisy and stupidity. They expose you for the authoritarian douchebag that you are. Maybe.

The Lib Party fucks themselves by not supporting America's right to sovereignty....They'll never appeal to core Americans with that bullshit. The Party seems to be comprised of a bunch of careless hippy stoners.

"Libertarians believe that if someone is peaceful, they should be welcome to immigrate to the United States.
Libertarians believe that people should be able to travel freely as long as they are peaceful. We welcome immigrants who come seeking a better life. The vast majority of immigrants are very peaceful and highly productive.
Indeed, the United States is a country of immigrants, of all backgrounds and walks of life…some families have just been here for more generations than others. Newcomers bring great vitality to our society.
A truly free market requires the free movement of people, not just products and ideas.
Whether they are from India or Mexico, whether they have advanced degrees or very little education, immigrants have one great thing in common: they bravely left their familiar surroundings in search of a better life. Many are fleeing extreme poverty and violence and are searching for a free and safe place to try to build their lives. We respect and admire their courage and are proud that they see the United States as a place of freedom, stability, and prosperity.
Of course, if someone has a record of violence, credible plans for violence, or acts violently, then Libertarians support blocking their entry, deporting, and/or prosecuting and imprisoning them, depending on the offense.
Libertarians do not support classifying undocumented immigrants as criminals. Our current immigration system is an embarrassment. People who would like to follow the legal procedures are unable to because these procedures are so complex and expensive and lengthy. If Americans want immigrants to enter through legal channels, we need to make those channels fair, reasonable, and accessible."

You clearly do not understand the concept and principle.

Will it really matter who comes here if we end all the social programs, free markets prevail, and the cost of employing an American is not greater than that to employ an illegal?

The only reason I oppose illegal immigration is because of the ass-backwards GOVERNMENT interference in employment practices of American employers, which is the only thing making employment of illegals attractive.

Government is the problem. Every fucking time.

.

Hey man look...I don't disagree with much of what you say and stand for...But that reality shit gets in the way...Unfortunately, this nation will never get away from social programs; there's just way too many here whom vote solely for free shit.
As far as sovereignty goes...what about that little Declaration Of Independence thing...how do you have a country without having a closed border?
the failure at the border is a result of dems and repubes not doing their job and enforcing the laws and giving free shit to those that enter both legal and illegal,,,

I agree.
and yet you want me to vote for one of them,,,
NEGATIVE...I want you to vote for the candidate who promises to shut the border down.
what do you mean shut down???

I mean NOBODY crosses it unless real Americans approve.
well theyre not in the democrat or republican partys
 
So tell us, will you vote for Hulk Hogan or the like again in 2020?

Last year as I sat at the table with my mail-in ballot the choice for US Senator was between Martha McSally and Kyrsten Sinema. My old way would have been to randomly pick anybody else listed. Since over the past 38 years that wasn't getting anywhere I finally gave up. Now in races where I simply don't have a preference, I'll go along with the wife's choice. So Kyrsten Sinema it was. Took almost a week to determine the winner for that office, so it did give me a sense that my wife's votes mattered.

In all likelihood next year she'll produce 2 votes for the Democrat but I doubt that it'll matter this time around.

Good on you for having the sense to cast a vote that you believed had a real chance to matter. It’s a no-brainer for most of us to vote for or against something / someone.

I know you're too stupid to understand this, but a vote "matters" regardless of whether the candidate you voted for wins. It counts, as in gets counted, and recorded as support for what you believe in. That is, unless you vote for a candidate you don't actually believe in because you are scared of some other candidate. That's actually worse than a wasted vote. It's a dishonest vote. If you wanna be a liar when you go to the polls, have it it. I'll pass.

Haha...that’s really the problem with you weirdos...you honestly believe that voting against something is a ”waste” and “dishonest”?
It’s weird that you people can’t wrap your peanut sized minds around the fact that only two parties have a chance at winning a national election.
and as long as you fucking party people have that mindset it will never change...cut the party cord loser......and backup what you say and leave california...what the hell is the matter with you?......its like a different world out here.....
I’ll do it again in 2020 with a song in my heart. I am not going to vote against my own principles so the partisans sycophants can open a bottle of Dom on election night. Fuck that noise.

haha...you honestly believe that you'll stop the duopoly from celebrating a victory if you stay "principled"....SERIOUSLY?
stopping them has nothing to do with it,,,I cant and wont vote for someone that I believe will violate your or my rights,,,

Your logic sounds cool as fuck but it's extremely flawed...You see, one of two candidates will win regardless of your noble 'I'm a total badass' position....For sane folks it only makes perfect sense to vote for the candidate you hate the least as none of us love all things any politician stands for. For the most part this shit is third grade level rationale. Let go of the tough guy shit and see things in total clarity.
so if I vote for one of them and they violate your rights doesnt that make me partially responsible for that violation?? more so because I knew they would do it???

sorry my choice hurts your feelings but I will never vote for a person or group of people that I know will bring harm to you, me or another person,,,

Again, your nobility is noted...you are a total badass and obviously super cool....BUT will that stop one of the two parties from winning and "violating" our rights?
voting isnt about voting for who will win,,,

Like drafting a player to help your team win as many games as possible.
You may not always get to choose the most desirable player but that doesn't mean you should say fuck it and draft Rocky Balboa because he makes you feel warm and fuzzy inside....he doesn't have a chance at making your team better. Simple shit...third grade level shit
not even close,,,
The exact same shit...scary to admit huh?
no its not,,,,

tell you what,,if you repubes want my vote then start undoing the democrat agenda starting with gun control laws and maybe a few of the abusive agencies,,,and then we can talk about me joining your team,,,
I’ll do it again in 2020 with a song in my heart. I am not going to vote against my own principles so the partisans sycophants can open a bottle of Dom on election night. Fuck that noise.

haha...you honestly believe that you'll stop the duopoly from celebrating a victory if you stay "principled"....SERIOUSLY?

Of course not. I can't stop you blind partisans from celebrating and toasting to your own demise. I just don't want any part it, which is why neither major candidate has earned my vote.


Long ago my grandfather told me..."Kid, in some elections you'll vote for your guy....in other elections you won't vote for someone but against someone."
He'd always say..."Don't waste a vote, make your vote count."
He would never want me to cast a wasted vote for Hulk Hogan.
in other words pick one of the parties and start kissing their asses.....

NEGATIVE....This shit isn't complicated for anyone even half sane...."MAKE YOUR VOTE COUNT"
Does a vote for Hulk Hogan COUNT?
if hes on the ballot then yes it counts,,,

haha...stay with that loony logic...I'm certain that you'll get your guy one century...hahaha
Meanwhile keep allowing others to decide your fate...I'm sure that's working SWEET for you.
you are allowing others to decide your fate too....how are you any different?.......

How so? I elected Trump...I never encouraged anybody to vote for Mickey Mouse
whho voted for mickey???
 
do you suck your "parties" ass loser?

Nope, I stick it to them by voting for Hulk Hogan...See, the duopoly loses when I do that...right?
you said 36 people,,the libertarians got 1.3 million,,so are you with them or not???

Are you bragging?
They garnered the support of one small city in Mexifornia?

If libertarians are so inconsequential, why do you invest so much of your time attacking them? ;)

I "attack" all silly whacks...it's what I do for entertainment in cyberspace.

Maybe. Or maybe libertarians just really get under your skin because they highlight your rank hypocrisy and stupidity. They expose you for the authoritarian douchebag that you are. Maybe.

You make zero sense bud...Look, stupidity is wasting a vote by voting for a candidate who has no chance at winning...stupidity is allowing others to vote for a winner who will decide the fate of the stubborn fools. Come on man...simple shit.
loser i know this is hard for you to understand,but some people will not vote to put people in office that they feel are jerks or just people they dont want to be in whatever office that person is running for.....voting for the so called "lessor" of 2 evils is pretty stupid...what is voting for Dracula over Lucifer going to get you?....they both will still suck the life out of you......if either party cant find quality people to represent them out of all the millions of people to chose from in this country.....then thats on them.....the only power i have is to not support people i think suck.....voting your way just keeps the same old shit going......
 

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