Wind Farm Seeks Permit to KILL GOLDEN EAGLES

[westwall]

Well well. The cat is out of the bag and since they can no longer hide the fact they are killing endangered birds on a monthly basis they are instead asking for a permit so they can continue to kill them without being prosecuted.

Environment enschmironment....


"SAN FRANCISCO, Sept. 27 (UPI) -- A Solano County, Calif., wind farm would be the first renewable energy project in the nation allowed to kill eagles under a federal plan, a U.S. agency said.

Under the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service proposal, outlined in a draft environmental report released Thursday, the Shiloh IV Wind Project would be issued a golden eagle take permit for its 3,500-acre plant in the Montezuma Hills, the San Francisco Chronicle reported.

The plan would allow the company's 50 wind turbines to kill as many as five golden eagles in a five-year period in exchange for measures to protect the birds, including retrofitting 133 power poles to prevent electrocutions, the Chronicle said."


Read more: Wind farm would be first renewable energy allowed to kill eagles - UPI.com


Wind farm would be first renewable energy allowed to kill eagles - UPI.com

 

[Mr. H.]

It is a FACT that birds will die. Whatever species, this is unacceptable.

 

[Abraham3]

AGW Deniers seek to starve millions of baby children

 

[westwall]

AGW Deniers seek to starve millions of baby children

AGW revisionists seek to destroy biodiversity.

 

[Rat in the Hat]

AGW Deniers seek to starve millions of baby children

Wait... WHAT?? Are you saying the wind farms are going to feed the dead Golden Eagles to millions of baby children????

 

[flacaltenn]

So this means that Caribou in ÀNWR better watch their asses. How many Caribou do we need anyway?

Seems they like hanging out around drilling operations . Pipelines make great space heaters..

 

[Mr. H.]

So this means that Caribou in ÀNWR better watch their asses. How many Caribou do we need anyway?

Seems they like hanging out around drilling operations . Pipelines make great space heaters..

Caribou herds have not been affected by oil and gas development in Alaska.
ANWR is a god forsaken barren speck of land that happens to contain billions of barrels of oil. But you'd rather we import it from those who want to destroy us.

 

[mamooth]

As I've pointed out before, many of the denialists here believe they can obtain eternal life by consuming the blood of slaughtered eagles, which explains their perverse lust for ever-larger quantities of bird-blood. But unknown to them, bird-god Huitzilopochtli has cursed them for their offense. Their lives will be extended, but will become ever more bitter and delusional (as you can see by their posts here), and they will eventually long for a death that will forever be denied them.

 

[westwall]

As I've pointed out before, many of the denialists here believe they can obtain eternal life by consuming the blood of slaughtered eagles, which explains their perverse lust for ever-larger quantities of bird-blood. But unknown to them, bird-god Huitzilopochtli has cursed them for their offense. Their lives will be extended, but will become ever more bitter and delusional (as you can see by their posts here), and they will eventually long for a death that will forever be denied them.

I hate to point it out to you admiral (but clearly you're too dense to understand) but it's YOU asshats who are trying to get the permit to murder Golden Eagles...not us. For someone who is constantly preaching to us about biodiversity you clowns sure seem to like chopping little critters into mincemeat...

 

[gallantwarrior]

AGW Deniers seek to starve millions of baby children

You mean the baby children who survive liberal abortion policies?

 

[gallantwarrior]

So this means that Caribou in ÀNWR better watch their asses. How many Caribou do we need anyway?

Seems they like hanging out around drilling operations . Pipelines make great space heaters..

Caribou herds have not been affected by oil and gas development in Alaska.
ANWR is a god forsaken barren speck of land that happens to contain billions of barrels of oil. But you'd rather we import it from those who want to destroy us.

Absolutely true. The North Slope bears absolutely no resemblance to anything you might have seen in a Steven Segal, save the world from evil oilmen, movie.

 

[gallantwarrior]

As I've pointed out before, many of the denialists here believe they can obtain eternal life by consuming the blood of slaughtered eagles, which explains their perverse lust for ever-larger quantities of bird-blood. But unknown to them, bird-god Huitzilopochtli has cursed them for their offense. Their lives will be extended, but will become ever more bitter and delusional (as you can see by their posts here), and they will eventually long for a death that will forever be denied them.

Seems to me it's the greenie-weenies who are whacking endangered birds in the name of their environmental religion.

 

[mamooth]

As I've pointed out before, many of the denialists here believe they can obtain eternal life by consuming the blood of slaughtered eagles, which explains their perverse lust for ever-larger quantities of bird-blood. But unknown to them, bird-god Huitzilopochtli has cursed them for their offense. Their lives will be extended, but will become ever more bitter and delusional (as you can see by their posts here), and they will eventually long for a death that will forever be denied them.

I hate to point it out to you admiral (but clearly you're too dense to understand) but it's YOU asshats who are trying to get the permit to murder Golden Eagles...not us. For someone who is constantly preaching to us about biodiversity you clowns sure seem to like chopping little critters into mincemeat...

Repent and beg for mercy from Huitzilopochtli, and he may lift your curse of bitter unending life.

 

[RollingThunder]

ANWR is a god forsaken barren speck of land that happens to contain billions of barrels of oil. But you'd rather we import it from those who want to destroy us.

You have made it very clear many, many times with your moronically mistaken posts that you are an ignorant brainwashed idiot, Mr. Hoot, but this statement of yours takes this week's forum dumbshit prize for its sheer stupidity. Your fallacious claim is particularly ironic on a thread about golden eagles since ANWR is a golden eagle nesting area.

Arctic National Wildlife Refuge
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The refuge supports a greater variety of plant and animal life than any other protected area in the Arctic Circle. A continuum of six different ecozones spans about 200 miles (300 km) north to south.

Along the northern coast of the refuge, the barrier islands, coastal lagoons, salt marshes, and river deltas of the Arctic coastal tundra provide habitat for migratory waterbirds including sea ducks, geese, swans, and shorebirds. Fish such as dolly varden and arctic cisco are found in nearshore waters. Coastal lands and sea ice are used by caribou seeking relief from biting insects during summer, and by polar bears hunting seals and giving birth in snow dens during winter.

The Arctic coastal plain stretches southward from the coast to the foothills of the Brooks Range. This area of rolling hills, small lakes, and north-flowing, braided rivers is dominated by tundra vegetation consisting of low shrubs, sedges, and mosses. Caribou travel to the coastal plain during June and July to give birth and raise their young. Migratory birds and insects flourish here during the brief Arctic summer. Tens of thousands of snow geese stop here during September to feed before migrating south, and musk oxen live here year-round.

South of the coastal plain, the mountains of the eastern Brooks Range rise to over 9000 feet (3,000 m). This northernmost extension of the Rocky Mountains marks the continental divide, with north-flowing rivers emptying into the Arctic Ocean and south-flowing rivers joining the great Yukon River. The rugged mountains of the Brooks Range are incised by deep river valleys creating a range of elevations and aspects that support a variety of low tundra vegetation, dense shrubs, rare groves of poplar trees on the north side and spruce on the south. During summer, peregrine falcons, gyrfalcons, and golden eagles build nests on cliffs. Harlequin ducks and red-breasted mergansers are seen on swift-flowing rivers. Dall sheep and wolves are active all year, while grizzly bears and arctic ground squirrels are frequently seen during summer but hibernate in winter.

The southern portion of the Arctic Refuge is within the Interior Alaska-Yukon lowland taiga (boreal forest) ecoregion. Beginning as predominantly treeless tundra with scattered islands of black and white spruce trees, the forest becomes progressively denser as the foothills yield to the expansive flats north of the Yukon River. Frequent forest fires ignited by lightning result in a complex mosaic of birch, aspen, and spruce forests of various ages. Wetlands and south-flowing rivers create openings in the forest canopy. Neotropical migratory birds breed here in spring and summer, attracted by plentiful food and the variety of habitats. Caribou travel here from farther north to spend the winter. Year-round residents of the boreal forest include moose, lynx, marten, wolverines, black and grizzly bears, and wolves.

Each year, thousands of waterfowl and other birds nest and reproduce in areas surrounding Prudhoe Bay and Kuparuk fields and a healthy and increasing caribou herd migrates through these areas to calve and seek respite from annoying pests.

 

[daveman]

As I've pointed out before, many of the denialists here believe they can obtain eternal life by consuming the blood of slaughtered eagles, which explains their perverse lust for ever-larger quantities of bird-blood. But unknown to them, bird-god Huitzilopochtli has cursed them for their offense. Their lives will be extended, but will become ever more bitter and delusional (as you can see by their posts here), and they will eventually long for a death that will forever be denied them.

 

[Abraham3]

Well well. The cat is out of the bag and since they can no longer hide the fact they are killing endangered birds on a monthly basis they are instead asking for a permit so they can continue to kill them without being prosecuted.

Environment enschmironment....


"SAN FRANCISCO, Sept. 27 (UPI) -- A Solano County, Calif., wind farm would be the first renewable energy project in the nation allowed to kill eagles under a federal plan, a U.S. agency said.

Under the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service proposal, outlined in a draft environmental report released Thursday, the Shiloh IV Wind Project would be issued a golden eagle take permit for its 3,500-acre plant in the Montezuma Hills, the San Francisco Chronicle reported.

The plan would allow the company's 50 wind turbines to kill as many as five golden eagles in a five-year period in exchange for measures to protect the birds, including retrofitting 133 power poles to prevent electrocutions, the Chronicle said."


Read more: Wind farm would be first renewable energy allowed to kill eagles - UPI.com


Wind farm would be first renewable energy allowed to kill eagles - UPI.com

Given the compensatory measures they will be required to make, less golden eagles may die than would have died had the facility never been built. And their 'take' is not dramatic: 1/year for five years is probably a fraction of the number killed by hunters and farmers/ranchers in the area.

And the lines about "the cat is finally out of the bag" and "can no longer pretend" are such complete bullshit. The cat has never been IN the bag and no one has ever pretended that birds weren't being killed by wind turbines. It has been the topic of open and widespread discussion for several years now.

Watching you folks pretending to suddenly be concerned environmentalists is really pathetic.

 

[westwall]

Well well. The cat is out of the bag and since they can no longer hide the fact they are killing endangered birds on a monthly basis they are instead asking for a permit so they can continue to kill them without being prosecuted.

Environment enschmironment....


"SAN FRANCISCO, Sept. 27 (UPI) -- A Solano County, Calif., wind farm would be the first renewable energy project in the nation allowed to kill eagles under a federal plan, a U.S. agency said.

Under the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service proposal, outlined in a draft environmental report released Thursday, the Shiloh IV Wind Project would be issued a golden eagle take permit for its 3,500-acre plant in the Montezuma Hills, the San Francisco Chronicle reported.

The plan would allow the company's 50 wind turbines to kill as many as five golden eagles in a five-year period in exchange for measures to protect the birds, including retrofitting 133 power poles to prevent electrocutions, the Chronicle said."


Read more: Wind farm would be first renewable energy allowed to kill eagles - UPI.com


Wind farm would be first renewable energy allowed to kill eagles - UPI.com

Given the compensatory measures they will be required to make, less golden eagles may die than would have died had the facility never been built. And their 'take' is not dramatic: 1/year for five years is probably a fraction of the number killed by hunters and farmers/ranchers in the area.

And the lines about "the cat is finally out of the bag" and "can no longer pretend" are such complete bullshit. The cat has never been IN the bag and no one has ever pretended that birds weren't being killed by wind turbines. It has been the topic of open and widespread discussion for several years now.

Watching you folks pretending to suddenly be concerned environmentalists is really pathetic.

What's the penalty if you kill one?

 

[Mr. H.]

ANWR is a god forsaken barren speck of land that happens to contain billions of barrels of oil. But you'd rather we import it from those who want to destroy us.

You have made it very clear many, many times with your moronically mistaken posts that you are an ignorant brainwashed idiot, Mr. Hoot, but this statement of yours takes this week's forum dumbshit prize for its sheer stupidity. Your fallacious claim is particularly ironic on a thread about golden eagles since ANWR is a golden eagle nesting area.

Arctic National Wildlife Refuge
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The refuge supports a greater variety of plant and animal life than any other protected area in the Arctic Circle. A continuum of six different ecozones spans about 200 miles (300 km) north to south.

Along the northern coast of the refuge, the barrier islands, coastal lagoons, salt marshes, and river deltas of the Arctic coastal tundra provide habitat for migratory waterbirds including sea ducks, geese, swans, and shorebirds. Fish such as dolly varden and arctic cisco are found in nearshore waters. Coastal lands and sea ice are used by caribou seeking relief from biting insects during summer, and by polar bears hunting seals and giving birth in snow dens during winter.

The Arctic coastal plain stretches southward from the coast to the foothills of the Brooks Range. This area of rolling hills, small lakes, and north-flowing, braided rivers is dominated by tundra vegetation consisting of low shrubs, sedges, and mosses. Caribou travel to the coastal plain during June and July to give birth and raise their young. Migratory birds and insects flourish here during the brief Arctic summer. Tens of thousands of snow geese stop here during September to feed before migrating south, and musk oxen live here year-round.

South of the coastal plain, the mountains of the eastern Brooks Range rise to over 9000 feet (3,000 m). This northernmost extension of the Rocky Mountains marks the continental divide, with north-flowing rivers emptying into the Arctic Ocean and south-flowing rivers joining the great Yukon River. The rugged mountains of the Brooks Range are incised by deep river valleys creating a range of elevations and aspects that support a variety of low tundra vegetation, dense shrubs, rare groves of poplar trees on the north side and spruce on the south. During summer, peregrine falcons, gyrfalcons, and golden eagles build nests on cliffs. Harlequin ducks and red-breasted mergansers are seen on swift-flowing rivers. Dall sheep and wolves are active all year, while grizzly bears and arctic ground squirrels are frequently seen during summer but hibernate in winter.

The southern portion of the Arctic Refuge is within the Interior Alaska-Yukon lowland taiga (boreal forest) ecoregion. Beginning as predominantly treeless tundra with scattered islands of black and white spruce trees, the forest becomes progressively denser as the foothills yield to the expansive flats north of the Yukon River. Frequent forest fires ignited by lightning result in a complex mosaic of birch, aspen, and spruce forests of various ages. Wetlands and south-flowing rivers create openings in the forest canopy. Neotropical migratory birds breed here in spring and summer, attracted by plentiful food and the variety of habitats. Caribou travel here from farther north to spend the winter. Year-round residents of the boreal forest include moose, lynx, marten, wolverines, black and grizzly bears, and wolves.

Each year, thousands of waterfowl and other birds nest and reproduce in areas surrounding Prudhoe Bay and Kuparuk fields and a healthy and increasing caribou herd migrates through these areas to calve and seek respite from annoying pests.

As I've stated, caribou thrive amongst commercial development in Alaska.

You, on the other hand, strive to jive.

Peddle your bullshit elsewhere, Cub Scout.

 

[ScienceRocks]

Birds die in oil...

It's a bird. How important is it...Not very.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

ANWR is a god forsaken barren speck of land that happens to contain billions of barrels of oil. But you'd rather we import it from those who want to destroy us.

You have made it very clear many, many times with your moronically mistaken posts that you are an ignorant brainwashed idiot, Mr. Hoot, but this statement of yours takes this week's forum dumbshit prize for its sheer stupidity. Your fallacious claim is particularly ironic on a thread about golden eagles since ANWR is a golden eagle nesting area.

Arctic National Wildlife Refuge
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The refuge supports a greater variety of plant and animal life than any other protected area in the Arctic Circle. A continuum of six different ecozones spans about 200 miles (300 km) north to south.

Along the northern coast of the refuge, the barrier islands, coastal lagoons, salt marshes, and river deltas of the Arctic coastal tundra provide habitat for migratory waterbirds including sea ducks, geese, swans, and shorebirds. Fish such as dolly varden and arctic cisco are found in nearshore waters. Coastal lands and sea ice are used by caribou seeking relief from biting insects during summer, and by polar bears hunting seals and giving birth in snow dens during winter.

The Arctic coastal plain stretches southward from the coast to the foothills of the Brooks Range. This area of rolling hills, small lakes, and north-flowing, braided rivers is dominated by tundra vegetation consisting of low shrubs, sedges, and mosses. Caribou travel to the coastal plain during June and July to give birth and raise their young. Migratory birds and insects flourish here during the brief Arctic summer. Tens of thousands of snow geese stop here during September to feed before migrating south, and musk oxen live here year-round.

South of the coastal plain, the mountains of the eastern Brooks Range rise to over 9000 feet (3,000 m). This northernmost extension of the Rocky Mountains marks the continental divide, with north-flowing rivers emptying into the Arctic Ocean and south-flowing rivers joining the great Yukon River. The rugged mountains of the Brooks Range are incised by deep river valleys creating a range of elevations and aspects that support a variety of low tundra vegetation, dense shrubs, rare groves of poplar trees on the north side and spruce on the south. During summer, peregrine falcons, gyrfalcons, and golden eagles build nests on cliffs. Harlequin ducks and red-breasted mergansers are seen on swift-flowing rivers. Dall sheep and wolves are active all year, while grizzly bears and arctic ground squirrels are frequently seen during summer but hibernate in winter.

The southern portion of the Arctic Refuge is within the Interior Alaska-Yukon lowland taiga (boreal forest) ecoregion. Beginning as predominantly treeless tundra with scattered islands of black and white spruce trees, the forest becomes progressively denser as the foothills yield to the expansive flats north of the Yukon River. Frequent forest fires ignited by lightning result in a complex mosaic of birch, aspen, and spruce forests of various ages. Wetlands and south-flowing rivers create openings in the forest canopy. Neotropical migratory birds breed here in spring and summer, attracted by plentiful food and the variety of habitats. Caribou travel here from farther north to spend the winter. Year-round residents of the boreal forest include moose, lynx, marten, wolverines, black and grizzly bears, and wolves.

Each year, thousands of waterfowl and other birds nest and reproduce in areas surrounding Prudhoe Bay and Kuparuk fields and a healthy and increasing caribou herd migrates through these areas to calve and seek respite from annoying pests.

As I've stated, caribou thrive amongst commercial development in Alaska.

You, on the other hand, strive to jive.

Peddle your bullshit elsewhere, Cub Scout.

Yeah....It's just like the offshore oil rigs. Libs scream and cry about em but it's always the first stop when going offshore fishing.